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"If you said you were vegan but had a steak or a burger now and then could you still say you're a vegan? " Touche | |||
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"If you said you were vegan but had a steak or a burger now and then could you still say you're a vegan? " He makes a valid point | |||
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"If you said you were vegan but had a steak or a burger now and then could you still say you're a vegan? He makes a valid point" But I wouldn't smell of smoke if I was to meet people who only wanted to meet non smokers | |||
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"If you said you were vegan but had a steak or a burger now and then could you still say you're a vegan? Touche " Sorry I wasn't trying to sound smart but I don't think you can have a few ciggies now and then and claim not to be a smoker... | |||
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"If you said you were vegan but had a steak or a burger now and then could you still say you're a vegan? Touche Sorry I wasn't trying to sound smart but I don't think you can have a few ciggies now and then and claim not to be a smoker..." No fair enough, I get where you're coming from. | |||
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"If you said you were vegan but had a steak or a burger now and then could you still say you're a vegan? Touche Sorry I wasn't trying to sound smart but I don't think you can have a few ciggies now and then and claim not to be a smoker... No fair enough, I get where you're coming from. " Thanks. I'm sure you'll get plenty of other views too | |||
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"Just be you...you don't need social acceptance. It's a fallacy. Your enjoyment does not outweigh others perceptions. If they can't understand. Well tell them to Fuck off." So just forget the labels then? | |||
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"Are you straight if you only fuck men when you're d*unk and it's available?" I would have to say no there. Is that a similar comparison though? | |||
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"Are you straight if you only fuck men when you're d*unk and it's available? I would have to say no there. Is that a similar comparison though?" A reasonable one | |||
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"Yep, you're a smoker. I only drink about three times a year but I can't claim to be tee total. " No messing about there, See the definition says 'A person who smokes tobacco regularly' is 10, 20 times a year regular? | |||
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"Yep, you're a smoker. I only drink about three times a year but I can't claim to be tee total. No messing about there, See the definition says 'A person who smokes tobacco regularly' is 10, 20 times a year regular?" Regular doesn't mean frequent. | |||
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"Are you straight if you only fuck men when you're d*unk and it's available?" You want a drink? | |||
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"Yep, you're a smoker. I only drink about three times a year but I can't claim to be tee total. No messing about there, See the definition says 'A person who smokes tobacco regularly' is 10, 20 times a year regular?" Yes. I don't think it really matters what you say, you can be a smoker with other smokers and a non smoker with non smokers. | |||
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"Yep, you're a smoker. I only drink about three times a year but I can't claim to be tee total. No messing about there, See the definition says 'A person who smokes tobacco regularly' is 10, 20 times a year regular? Regular doesn't mean frequent." But it means constant or definite pattern. When I smoke it is erratic | |||
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"Yep, you're a smoker. I only drink about three times a year but I can't claim to be tee total. No messing about there, See the definition says 'A person who smokes tobacco regularly' is 10, 20 times a year regular? Yes. I don't think it really matters what you say, you can be a smoker with other smokers and a non smoker with non smokers. " Interesting point. Perhaps I'm in denial. | |||
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"Yep, you're a smoker. I only drink about three times a year but I can't claim to be tee total. No messing about there, See the definition says 'A person who smokes tobacco regularly' is 10, 20 times a year regular? Yes. I don't think it really matters what you say, you can be a smoker with other smokers and a non smoker with non smokers. Interesting point. Perhaps I'm in denial. " Definition of non-smoker 'a person who does not smoke tobacco'. | |||
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"Yep, you're a smoker. I only drink about three times a year but I can't claim to be tee total. No messing about there, See the definition says 'A person who smokes tobacco regularly' is 10, 20 times a year regular? Yes. I don't think it really matters what you say, you can be a smoker with other smokers and a non smoker with non smokers. Interesting point. Perhaps I'm in denial. Definition of non-smoker 'a person who does not smoke tobacco'. " Sounds so simple | |||
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"Yep, you're a smoker. I only drink about three times a year but I can't claim to be tee total. No messing about there, See the definition says 'A person who smokes tobacco regularly' is 10, 20 times a year regular? Yes. I don't think it really matters what you say, you can be a smoker with other smokers and a non smoker with non smokers. Interesting point. Perhaps I'm in denial. Definition of non-smoker 'a person who does not smoke tobacco'. " So there is no broad definition of non smoker | |||
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"If you said you were vegan but had a steak or a burger now and then could you still say you're a vegan? He makes a valid point But I wouldn't smell of smoke if I was to meet people who only wanted to meet non smokers" People who smoke _massively_ underestimate how much they smell of smoke to (genuine) non smokers. I guess it is because they are so used to the smell but it does linger and a non smoker can pick it up very easily. | |||
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"Fab non smoker? Cigarette curious?" lol | |||
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"Yes Next question?" If you don't meet smokers and you knew that, would it affect my chances of meeting you? | |||
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"Yes Next question? If you don't meet smokers and you knew that, would it affect my chances of meeting you?" Yes Next question | |||
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"Yep, you're a smoker. I only drink about three times a year but I can't claim to be tee total. No messing about there, See the definition says 'A person who smokes tobacco regularly' is 10, 20 times a year regular? Yes. I don't think it really matters what you say, you can be a smoker with other smokers and a non smoker with non smokers. Interesting point. Perhaps I'm in denial. Definition of non-smoker 'a person who does not smoke tobacco'. So there is no broad definition of non smoker " One either is, or is not | |||
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"If you said you were vegan but had a steak or a burger now and then could you still say you're a vegan? He makes a valid point But I wouldn't smell of smoke if I was to meet people who only wanted to meet non smokers People who smoke _massively_ underestimate how much they smell of smoke to (genuine) non smokers. I guess it is because they are so used to the smell but it does linger and a non smoker can pick it up very easily." See I wouldn't smell of Smoke for a meet. You'd never be able to tell. | |||
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"Yes Next question? If you don't meet smokers and you knew that, would it affect my chances of meeting you? Yes Next question " Fair enough | |||
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"Yep, you're a smoker. I only drink about three times a year but I can't claim to be tee total. No messing about there, See the definition says 'A person who smokes tobacco regularly' is 10, 20 times a year regular? Yes. I don't think it really matters what you say, you can be a smoker with other smokers and a non smoker with non smokers. Interesting point. Perhaps I'm in denial. Definition of non-smoker 'a person who does not smoke tobacco'. So there is no broad definition of non smoker One either is, or is not" You didn't say that about swingers though? | |||
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"To be honest to everyone I have non smoker on my profile.... But I hate to feel like a hypocrite. I only like to smoke whilst drinking. I will sometimes smoke a cigarette if I’m drinking with friends and I see them smoking. This could be 10, 20 times per year. I have also gotten caught up in the heat of the moment and smoked a cigarette after meeting swingers that smoke... Now I class myself as a non smoker because I never buy cigarettes to smoke when I'm not going out. I will never smoke alone.... If cigarettes are not around me , I have no cravings... I don’t smoke everyday and can go weeks, months without smoking. So am I a smoker?" Yes you are sir, | |||
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"Yep, you're a smoker. I only drink about three times a year but I can't claim to be tee total. No messing about there, See the definition says 'A person who smokes tobacco regularly' is 10, 20 times a year regular? Yes. I don't think it really matters what you say, you can be a smoker with other smokers and a non smoker with non smokers. Interesting point. Perhaps I'm in denial. Definition of non-smoker 'a person who does not smoke tobacco'. So there is no broad definition of non smoker One either is, or is not You didn't say that about swingers though? " how is that in any way comparable? | |||
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"See I wouldn't smell of Smoke for a meet. You'd never be able to tell. " So it comes down to whether you can successfully hide it rather than what you actually do? | |||
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"Yep, you're a smoker. I only drink about three times a year but I can't claim to be tee total. No messing about there, See the definition says 'A person who smokes tobacco regularly' is 10, 20 times a year regular? Yes. I don't think it really matters what you say, you can be a smoker with other smokers and a non smoker with non smokers. Interesting point. Perhaps I'm in denial. Definition of non-smoker 'a person who does not smoke tobacco'. So there is no broad definition of non smoker One either is, or is not You didn't say that about swingers though? how is that in any way comparable? " I just think that can be black and white too. Or am I mired in the grey area here. | |||
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"Yep, you're a smoker. I only drink about three times a year but I can't claim to be tee total. No messing about there, See the definition says 'A person who smokes tobacco regularly' is 10, 20 times a year regular? Yes. I don't think it really matters what you say, you can be a smoker with other smokers and a non smoker with non smokers. Interesting point. Perhaps I'm in denial. Definition of non-smoker 'a person who does not smoke tobacco'. So there is no broad definition of non smoker One either is, or is not You didn't say that about swingers though? how is that in any way comparable? I just think that can be black and white too. Or am I mired in the grey area here. " Who knows. Anyway, you do you as they say. Good night | |||
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"See I wouldn't smell of Smoke for a meet. You'd never be able to tell. So it comes down to whether you can successfully hide it rather than what you actually do?" Am I really hiding it though. It is such a big deal. Would it affect your decision to meet if you didn't meet smokers and knew that? | |||
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"Am I really hiding it though. It is such a big deal. Would it affect your decision to meet if you didn't meet smokers and knew that?" I smoke. I don't give a shit if people I meet smoke or not, but the situation as it is would put me off. I dont like to deal with liars. So if I saw someone with non smoker flagged having a smoke on a night out I'd write them off. I'm not vegan but if someone tells me they are then eats a steak then I don't want to deal with them either. If someone says they're a straight man or a lesbian but only sucks 10 to 20 dicks a year, same deal. Own who you are and the choices you make. If the options are smoker and non smoker, and sometimes you smoke, then you're a smoker. I'm a smoker, I meet people who don't smoke and who have a preference for fellow non smokers. It's not actually going to limit your potential pool by telling the truth. | |||
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"Yep, you're a smoker. I only drink about three times a year but I can't claim to be tee total. No messing about there, See the definition says 'A person who smokes tobacco regularly' is 10, 20 times a year regular? Yes. I don't think it really matters what you say, you can be a smoker with other smokers and a non smoker with non smokers. Interesting point. Perhaps I'm in denial. Definition of non-smoker 'a person who does not smoke tobacco'. So there is no broad definition of non smoker One either is, or is not You didn't say that about swingers though? how is that in any way comparable? " Swingers don't cough repeatedly first thing in the morning and say i must be getting a cold | |||
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"If you only smoke down the pub, you are still a smoker regardless of the where, when and how many. However do you need to tell a potential meet? Unless you have been down the pub prior then yes, be upfront (if the person says in their profile they only meet non smokers) because then your potential meet can make an informed choice. If however you haven't been down the pub and not touched a cigarette for weeks/months then in my opinion there is no need to tell them (unless you are planning on seeing them regularly and a potential pub/club visit may occur and you are tempted). Hope that helps op x" You make a good argument. | |||
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"Yes, OP. You're a smoker. I'm a non smoker as I never ever smoke. " Simple as that hey, interesting. | |||
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"I'd happily meet you as a nonsmoker and be happy if you explained your very occasional lighting up, without feeling deceived. For true purists to be happy, just add a line to the profile, stating you smoke 10 or so times a year and will declare your most recent 1." You are far less judgmental | |||
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"I wouldn't call you a smoker but as you'll see from previous posts on this subject, the anti smokers are all over it. (no shade intended here OK?) I avoid the posts as much as I can so as not to put my foot in it and cause an endless argument. However seeing as you'd not had many people reply who are smokers thought I'd balance the playing field a little. I don't drink, I might have 1 glass on my birthday and one for Christmas (literally that's it) but I will not say I'm a drinker.... Regardless of how black and white you make it the whole effort of explaining to someone that I might have 2 glasses a year takes longer to do than saying I don't drink. I am tired so this may not be making sense but to me you're not a smoker " Yes tend to non-smokers calling me a smoker. Interesting point, that is very small percentage of time spent drinking in a year. People might find it hard to call you a drinker. | |||
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"It's not going to be in your breath which is the reason I don't meet smokers so wouldn't have a problem. " See, that is my point. Interesting. | |||
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"Your still a smoker like above you can't claim to be vegan and enjoy a steak, just write in your bio that you only smoke occasionally. Mrs " I know, that is a fair point. If I say occasionally, they might think it would possible for me to smell of smoke etc, when I wouldn't. It is such a dilemma | |||
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"I'm a non smoker as I've never smoked, not even once. I'm also a non drinker as I've never tasted alcohol. I'm straight because I've never even had a sexual thought about another man. How others want to describe themselves has no bearing on me whatsoever unless they are deliberately trying to deceive me. " You sound a little boring. You have not lived! | |||
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"Your still a smoker like above you can't claim to be vegan and enjoy a steak, just write in your bio that you only smoke occasionally. Mrs I know, that is a fair point. If I say occasionally, they might think it would possible for me to smell of smoke etc, when I wouldn't. It is such a dilemma " Then state clearly you wouldn't smoke prior to a meet, it's not difficult to explain yourself. Mrs | |||
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"I'm the same, very rarely smoke and only in the company of others that do" But you are a woman, they might go easier on you | |||
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"I'm a non smoker as I've never smoked, not even once. I'm also a non drinker as I've never tasted alcohol. I'm straight because I've never even had a sexual thought about another man. How others want to describe themselves has no bearing on me whatsoever unless they are deliberately trying to deceive me. You sound a little boring. You have not lived!" Why do you think that? You've no idea how I've lived and have based that stupid response on the fact I've never had a smoke or drink? Are you really that shallow? | |||
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"I'm the same, very rarely smoke and only in the company of others that do But you are a woman, they might go easier on you " | |||
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"I'm a non smoker as I've never smoked, not even once. I'm also a non drinker as I've never tasted alcohol. I'm straight because I've never even had a sexual thought about another man. How others want to describe themselves has no bearing on me whatsoever unless they are deliberately trying to deceive me. You sound a little boring. You have not lived! Why do you think that? You've no idea how I've lived and have based that stupid response on the fact I've never had a smoke or drink? Are you really that shallow?" I couldn't trust a man like you. Incorruptable | |||
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"I'm a non smoker as I've never smoked, not even once. I'm also a non drinker as I've never tasted alcohol. I'm straight because I've never even had a sexual thought about another man. How others want to describe themselves has no bearing on me whatsoever unless they are deliberately trying to deceive me. You sound a little boring. You have not lived!" Wow, unnecessary. If being boring means not being hooked up to an oxygen tank for the later part of your life or not having body organs ravaged by the affects of alcohol give me boring anyday. | |||
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"I'm a non smoker as I've never smoked, not even once. I'm also a non drinker as I've never tasted alcohol. I'm straight because I've never even had a sexual thought about another man. How others want to describe themselves has no bearing on me whatsoever unless they are deliberately trying to deceive me. You sound a little boring. You have not lived! Why do you think that? You've no idea how I've lived and have based that stupid response on the fact I've never had a smoke or drink? Are you really that shallow? I couldn't trust a man like you. Incorruptable " Corruption is on the agenda, im thinking trust goes both ways | |||
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"I'm a non smoker as I've never smoked, not even once. I'm also a non drinker as I've never tasted alcohol. I'm straight because I've never even had a sexual thought about another man. How others want to describe themselves has no bearing on me whatsoever unless they are deliberately trying to deceive me. You sound a little boring. You have not lived! Wow, unnecessary. If being boring means not being hooked up to an oxygen tank for the later part of your life or not having body organs ravaged by the affects of alcohol give me boring anyday." A person saying they have never tasted alcohol. Unless you are a very religious person or from a different continent, I don't know many people that haven't tasted alcohol. Leads me to suspect it isn't the truth. | |||
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"I vape but don’t consider myself a smoker - there’s no option for vaping on here but when I was meeting I’d be honest about it. I think it’s important to be transparent and allow a potential meet to make up there own mind as to whether it be an issue for them, from this thread it’s obvious people see things differently and smoking/vaping is a huge no for some just be upfront x" To be fair, and I'm not sure how other non-smokers feel, but I think you're ok with vaping as it's mostly the smell and what it clings to that isn't the most pleasant thing. But with vaping you can different flavours like "Unicorn Farts" or something that isn't so bad | |||
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"I'm a non smoker as I've never smoked, not even once. I'm also a non drinker as I've never tasted alcohol. I'm straight because I've never even had a sexual thought about another man. How others want to describe themselves has no bearing on me whatsoever unless they are deliberately trying to deceive me. You sound a little boring. You have not lived! Why do you think that? You've no idea how I've lived and have based that stupid response on the fact I've never had a smoke or drink? Are you really that shallow? I couldn't trust a man like you. Incorruptable Corruption is on the agenda, im thinking trust goes both ways " People who don't swear either. I couldn't trust them. | |||
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"I'm a non smoker as I've never smoked, not even once. I'm also a non drinker as I've never tasted alcohol. I'm straight because I've never even had a sexual thought about another man. How others want to describe themselves has no bearing on me whatsoever unless they are deliberately trying to deceive me. You sound a little boring. You have not lived! Why do you think that? You've no idea how I've lived and have based that stupid response on the fact I've never had a smoke or drink? Are you really that shallow? I couldn't trust a man like you. Incorruptable Corruption is on the agenda, im thinking trust goes both ways People who don't swear either. I couldn't trust them. " I'd look at your trust issues my friend, as the things your not trusting through, are pretty insignificant things.... | |||
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"I'm a non smoker as I've never smoked, not even once. I'm also a non drinker as I've never tasted alcohol. I'm straight because I've never even had a sexual thought about another man. How others want to describe themselves has no bearing on me whatsoever unless they are deliberately trying to deceive me. You sound a little boring. You have not lived! Wow, unnecessary. If being boring means not being hooked up to an oxygen tank for the later part of your life or not having body organs ravaged by the affects of alcohol give me boring anyday. A person saying they have never tasted alcohol. Unless you are a very religious person or from a different continent, I don't know many people that haven't tasted alcohol. Leads me to suspect it isn't the truth. " How judgemental....I have never drank either, watching what alcohol abuse does to someone can have an effect like that | |||
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"I'm a non smoker as I've never smoked, not even once. I'm also a non drinker as I've never tasted alcohol. I'm straight because I've never even had a sexual thought about another man. How others want to describe themselves has no bearing on me whatsoever unless they are deliberately trying to deceive me. You sound a little boring. You have not lived! Wow, unnecessary. If being boring means not being hooked up to an oxygen tank for the later part of your life or not having body organs ravaged by the affects of alcohol give me boring anyday. A person saying they have never tasted alcohol. Unless you are a very religious person or from a different continent, I don't know many people that haven't tasted alcohol. Leads me to suspect it isn't the truth. " What it actually means is that I have the courage of my convictions and have never been swayed by my peers. I didn't need to drink or smoke to be a man. | |||
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"I'm a non smoker as I've never smoked, not even once. I'm also a non drinker as I've never tasted alcohol. I'm straight because I've never even had a sexual thought about another man. How others want to describe themselves has no bearing on me whatsoever unless they are deliberately trying to deceive me. You sound a little boring. You have not lived! Wow, unnecessary. If being boring means not being hooked up to an oxygen tank for the later part of your life or not having body organs ravaged by the affects of alcohol give me boring anyday. A person saying they have never tasted alcohol. Unless you are a very religious person or from a different continent, I don't know many people that haven't tasted alcohol. Leads me to suspect it isn't the truth. How judgemental....I have never drank either, watching what alcohol abuse does to someone can have an effect like that " The odds on you two who both haven't tasted alcohol and being in the same thread must be astronomical. | |||
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"I'm a non smoker as I've never smoked, not even once. I'm also a non drinker as I've never tasted alcohol. I'm straight because I've never even had a sexual thought about another man. How others want to describe themselves has no bearing on me whatsoever unless they are deliberately trying to deceive me. You sound a little boring. You have not lived! Wow, unnecessary. If being boring means not being hooked up to an oxygen tank for the later part of your life or not having body organs ravaged by the affects of alcohol give me boring anyday. A person saying they have never tasted alcohol. Unless you are a very religious person or from a different continent, I don't know many people that haven't tasted alcohol. Leads me to suspect it isn't the truth. What it actually means is that I have the courage of my convictions and have never been swayed by my peers. I didn't need to drink or smoke to be a man. " You sound very noble, you may have a future career in Politics. | |||
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"I'm a non smoker as I've never smoked, not even once. I'm also a non drinker as I've never tasted alcohol. I'm straight because I've never even had a sexual thought about another man. How others want to describe themselves has no bearing on me whatsoever unless they are deliberately trying to deceive me. You sound a little boring. You have not lived! Wow, unnecessary. If being boring means not being hooked up to an oxygen tank for the later part of your life or not having body organs ravaged by the affects of alcohol give me boring anyday. A person saying they have never tasted alcohol. Unless you are a very religious person or from a different continent, I don't know many people that haven't tasted alcohol. Leads me to suspect it isn't the truth. How judgemental....I have never drank either, watching what alcohol abuse does to someone can have an effect like that The odds on you two who both haven't tasted alcohol and being in the same thread must be astronomical. " Who'd of thunked it hey | |||
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"I'm a non smoker as I've never smoked, not even once. I'm also a non drinker as I've never tasted alcohol. I'm straight because I've never even had a sexual thought about another man. How others want to describe themselves has no bearing on me whatsoever unless they are deliberately trying to deceive me. You sound a little boring. You have not lived! Wow, unnecessary. If being boring means not being hooked up to an oxygen tank for the later part of your life or not having body organs ravaged by the affects of alcohol give me boring anyday. A person saying they have never tasted alcohol. Unless you are a very religious person or from a different continent, I don't know many people that haven't tasted alcohol. Leads me to suspect it isn't the truth. How judgemental....I have never drank either, watching what alcohol abuse does to someone can have an effect like that The odds on you two who both haven't tasted alcohol and being in the same thread must be astronomical. Who'd of thunked it hey" I shall have to do the lottery and bet every race at Cheltenham today. My luck is obviously in. | |||
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"I do love the self-filtering process, some put themselves through, gotta admire the sieving nature of the Forum...outstanding " Good isn't it? | |||
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"I do love the self-filtering process, some put themselves through, gotta admire the sieving nature of the Forum...outstanding Good isn't it?" A valuable tool | |||
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"To be honest to everyone I have non smoker on my profile.... But I hate to feel like a hypocrite. I only like to smoke whilst drinking. I will sometimes smoke a cigarette if I’m drinking with friends and I see them smoking. This could be 10, 20 times per year. I have also gotten caught up in the heat of the moment and smoked a cigarette after meeting swingers that smoke... Now I class myself as a non smoker because I never buy cigarettes to smoke when I'm not going out. I will never smoke alone.... If cigarettes are not around me , I have no cravings... I don’t smoke everyday and can go weeks, months without smoking. So am I a smoker?" If ya smoke ..ya smoke...the level is the only thing..you might be are a heavy smoker ..a light smoker or a now and again Smoker but a smoker non the less. | |||
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"Yes you're a smoker ,even if an occasional one." I guess it's that simple. I've been living in denial then for so long | |||
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