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"Yes. As argued by plenty of people here. Shame that the thread had to close at 175. https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/1428177 A" I know, why I thought we could continue... | |||
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"Yes. As argued by plenty of people here. Shame that the thread had to close at 175. https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/1428177 A I know, why I thought we could continue... " Ok. Answer me this. How can the sex part always get in the way if the other party doesn't find you attractive and there's actually no sex? Sex can't be an issue if there isn't any. If the lack of sex is the blocker for any friendship then that's on you, not them. Most people can accept just friendship from others, on fab and in real life. They don't cut ties just because someone doesn't want to fuck them. I know I'm repeating myself here, but people reading this thread may not have read the other, hence I posted the link. It was certainly an informative thread. A | |||
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"Can men and women just be friends if 1 finds the other attractive? On fab or the real world. My opinion no, the sex part always gets in the way. " And the forums never fail to Impress, | |||
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"Yes. As argued by plenty of people here. Shame that the thread had to close at 175. https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/1428177 A I know, why I thought we could continue... Ok. Answer me this. How can the sex part always get in the way if the other party doesn't find you attractive and there's actually no sex? Sex can't be an issue if there isn't any. If the lack of sex is the blocker for any friendship then that's on you, not them. Most people can accept just friendship from others, on fab and in real life. They don't cut ties just because someone doesn't want to fuck them. I know I'm repeating myself here, but people reading this thread may not have read the other, hence I posted the link. It was certainly an informative thread. A" The sex gets in the way because I'd say 99% of men would always want more. It's just in our nature as men. How we are wired. | |||
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"Yes. As argued by plenty of people here. Shame that the thread had to close at 175. https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/1428177 A I know, why I thought we could continue... Ok. Answer me this. How can the sex part always get in the way if the other party doesn't find you attractive and there's actually no sex? Sex can't be an issue if there isn't any. If the lack of sex is the blocker for any friendship then that's on you, not them. Most people can accept just friendship from others, on fab and in real life. They don't cut ties just because someone doesn't want to fuck them. I know I'm repeating myself here, but people reading this thread may not have read the other, hence I posted the link. It was certainly an informative thread. A The sex gets in the way because I'd say 99% of men would always want more. It's just in our nature as men. How we are wired. " And how are we wired as men, nice bit of generalisability there with the 99% of men quote.... | |||
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"Yes. As argued by plenty of people here. Shame that the thread had to close at 175. https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/1428177 A I know, why I thought we could continue... Ok. Answer me this. How can the sex part always get in the way if the other party doesn't find you attractive and there's actually no sex? Sex can't be an issue if there isn't any. If the lack of sex is the blocker for any friendship then that's on you, not them. Most people can accept just friendship from others, on fab and in real life. They don't cut ties just because someone doesn't want to fuck them. I know I'm repeating myself here, but people reading this thread may not have read the other, hence I posted the link. It was certainly an informative thread. A The sex gets in the way because I'd say 99% of men would always want more. It's just in our nature as men. How we are wired. " Most men have control of that though. Don't they? | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 10/03/23 16:04:29]" As a bi woman I find this question odd. As I find loads of people attractive and does that mean I can't have friends? Not at all. Can everyone see past the sexual objectification of others? No, not all can but everyone is different. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. And if you don't want to be friends with someone you're attracted to, fine. People tend to find people with similar thinking to themselves. However, I find this question to be often linked with a lot of misogyny. And that I do disagree with. People are not objects for the gratification of others and should be treated as people. | |||
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"Yes. As argued by plenty of people here. Shame that the thread had to close at 175. https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/1428177 A I know, why I thought we could continue... Ok. Answer me this. How can the sex part always get in the way if the other party doesn't find you attractive and there's actually no sex? Sex can't be an issue if there isn't any. If the lack of sex is the blocker for any friendship then that's on you, not them. Most people can accept just friendship from others, on fab and in real life. They don't cut ties just because someone doesn't want to fuck them. I know I'm repeating myself here, but people reading this thread may not have read the other, hence I posted the link. It was certainly an informative thread. A The sex gets in the way because I'd say 99% of men would always want more. It's just in our nature as men. How we are wired. Most men have control of that though. Don't they? " Harry when in when Harry met Sally perfectly explained this in my opinion. | |||
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"Yes. As argued by plenty of people here. Shame that the thread had to close at 175. https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/1428177 A I know, why I thought we could continue... Ok. Answer me this. How can the sex part always get in the way if the other party doesn't find you attractive and there's actually no sex? Sex can't be an issue if there isn't any. If the lack of sex is the blocker for any friendship then that's on you, not them. Most people can accept just friendship from others, on fab and in real life. They don't cut ties just because someone doesn't want to fuck them. I know I'm repeating myself here, but people reading this thread may not have read the other, hence I posted the link. It was certainly an informative thread. A The sex gets in the way because I'd say 99% of men would always want more. It's just in our nature as men. How we are wired. Most men have control of that though. Don't they? Harry when in when Harry met Sally perfectly explained this in my opinion. " I've never seen it | |||
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"Yes. As argued by plenty of people here. Shame that the thread had to close at 175. https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/1428177 A I know, why I thought we could continue... Ok. Answer me this. How can the sex part always get in the way if the other party doesn't find you attractive and there's actually no sex? Sex can't be an issue if there isn't any. If the lack of sex is the blocker for any friendship then that's on you, not them. Most people can accept just friendship from others, on fab and in real life. They don't cut ties just because someone doesn't want to fuck them. I know I'm repeating myself here, but people reading this thread may not have read the other, hence I posted the link. It was certainly an informative thread. A The sex gets in the way because I'd say 99% of men would always want more. It's just in our nature as men. How we are wired. Most men have control of that though. Don't they? Harry when in when Harry met Sally perfectly explained this in my opinion. I've never seen it" Type in 'Harry met Sally friends' on YouTube. It is eloquently put. | |||
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"Yes. As argued by plenty of people here. Shame that the thread had to close at 175. https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/1428177 A I know, why I thought we could continue... Ok. Answer me this. How can the sex part always get in the way if the other party doesn't find you attractive and there's actually no sex? Sex can't be an issue if there isn't any. If the lack of sex is the blocker for any friendship then that's on you, not them. Most people can accept just friendship from others, on fab and in real life. They don't cut ties just because someone doesn't want to fuck them. I know I'm repeating myself here, but people reading this thread may not have read the other, hence I posted the link. It was certainly an informative thread. A The sex gets in the way because I'd say 99% of men would always want more. It's just in our nature as men. How we are wired. " No. It's how a minority are wired. Most are perfectly capable of platonic relationships with people they are attracted to, even those they would like to date/be in a relationship with. They can maintain friendships based on far more than just sex. The inability to do so highlights personal insecurities and very negative behaviours and attitudes in my opinion. Whether male or female - if you can't accept that someone isn't attracted to you and feel that without that attraction and/or sex that there is nothing they can offer you then that's a major red flag in terms of character. A | |||
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"Yes. As argued by plenty of people here. Shame that the thread had to close at 175. https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/1428177 A I know, why I thought we could continue... Ok. Answer me this. How can the sex part always get in the way if the other party doesn't find you attractive and there's actually no sex? Sex can't be an issue if there isn't any. If the lack of sex is the blocker for any friendship then that's on you, not them. Most people can accept just friendship from others, on fab and in real life. They don't cut ties just because someone doesn't want to fuck them. I know I'm repeating myself here, but people reading this thread may not have read the other, hence I posted the link. It was certainly an informative thread. A The sex gets in the way because I'd say 99% of men would always want more. It's just in our nature as men. How we are wired. No. It's how a minority are wired. Most are perfectly capable of platonic relationships with people they are attracted to, even those they would like to date/be in a relationship with. They can maintain friendships based on far more than just sex. The inability to do so highlights personal insecurities and very negative behaviours and attitudes in my opinion. Whether male or female - if you can't accept that someone isn't attracted to you and feel that without that attraction and/or sex that there is nothing they can offer you then that's a major red flag in terms of character. A" Maybe I'm just a goddam sexual tyrannosaurus then. 
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"Can men and women just be friends if 1 finds the other attractive? On fab or the real world. My opinion no, the sex part always gets in the way. " Yes. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 10/03/23 16:04:29] As a bi woman I find this question odd. As I find loads of people attractive and does that mean I can't have friends? Not at all. Can everyone see past the sexual objectification of others? No, not all can but everyone is different. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. And if you don't want to be friends with someone you're attracted to, fine. People tend to find people with similar thinking to themselves. However, I find this question to be often linked with a lot of misogyny. And that I do disagree with. People are not objects for the gratification of others and should be treated as people. " Totally agree with this. I'd have zero friends if i didn't make friends because they are attractive. Surely just because someone is attractive your own sexual gratification can withstand seeing an attractive person without the need to stick your dick in them. Then again...... On here.... Mrs | |||
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"Yes, it's perfectly possible. Can it be disappointing when you want different things? Yes. But if it's a choice between friendship (with some disappointment to work through) and no friendship (and also the disappointment), then surely it's better to have the value of that person in your life? " The value versus the kind of torture. The torture would be tipping the scales, think it would always be there subconsciously too. | |||
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"Yes. As argued by plenty of people here. Shame that the thread had to close at 175. https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/1428177 A I know, why I thought we could continue... Ok. Answer me this. How can the sex part always get in the way if the other party doesn't find you attractive and there's actually no sex? Sex can't be an issue if there isn't any. If the lack of sex is the blocker for any friendship then that's on you, not them. Most people can accept just friendship from others, on fab and in real life. They don't cut ties just because someone doesn't want to fuck them. I know I'm repeating myself here, but people reading this thread may not have read the other, hence I posted the link. It was certainly an informative thread. A The sex gets in the way because I'd say 99% of men would always want more. It's just in our nature as men. How we are wired. " I must know a hell of a lot of guys in the 1% then because your numbers are skewed. Every thread about friendship on here has both men and women claiming they have healthy platonic friendships so it must be true. Claiming that 99% of men will fuck up those friendships is nonsense and then asking if people with friends like that are really happy just doubles down on the nonsense. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 10/03/23 16:04:29] As a bi woman I find this question odd. As I find loads of people attractive and does that mean I can't have friends? Not at all. Can everyone see past the sexual objectification of others? No, not all can but everyone is different. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. And if you don't want to be friends with someone you're attracted to, fine. People tend to find people with similar thinking to themselves. However, I find this question to be often linked with a lot of misogyny. And that I do disagree with. People are not objects for the gratification of others and should be treated as people. Totally agree with this. I'd have zero friends if i didn't make friends because they are attractive. Surely just because someone is attractive your own sexual gratification can withstand seeing an attractive person without the need to stick your dick in them. Then again...... On here.... Mrs " Sometimes attraction grows on me. I like a person and then I see the way their eyes light up when they're passionate about something, or I get them from a different light. I've made friends here, with zero expectations of sex - just conversation - where sex has eventually happened. (Not because I "gave in" - because the topic was broached later and we were both on board) And it's been some of the best sex I've ever had. If any of those people were attracted to me first, I have no idea. But if they'd ditched me before finding out if it was possible, we both would have lost out. | |||
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"Yes. As argued by plenty of people here. Shame that the thread had to close at 175. https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/1428177 A I know, why I thought we could continue... Ok. Answer me this. How can the sex part always get in the way if the other party doesn't find you attractive and there's actually no sex? Sex can't be an issue if there isn't any. If the lack of sex is the blocker for any friendship then that's on you, not them. Most people can accept just friendship from others, on fab and in real life. They don't cut ties just because someone doesn't want to fuck them. I know I'm repeating myself here, but people reading this thread may not have read the other, hence I posted the link. It was certainly an informative thread. A The sex gets in the way because I'd say 99% of men would always want more. It's just in our nature as men. How we are wired. I must know a hell of a lot of guys in the 1% then because your numbers are skewed. Every thread about friendship on here has both men and women claiming they have healthy platonic friendships so it must be true. Claiming that 99% of men will fuck up those friendships is nonsense and then asking if people with friends like that are really happy just doubles down on the nonsense. " I think it's a really misandric view. Men are more capable than that. | |||
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"Yes. As argued by plenty of people here. Shame that the thread had to close at 175. https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/1428177 A I know, why I thought we could continue... Ok. Answer me this. How can the sex part always get in the way if the other party doesn't find you attractive and there's actually no sex? Sex can't be an issue if there isn't any. If the lack of sex is the blocker for any friendship then that's on you, not them. Most people can accept just friendship from others, on fab and in real life. They don't cut ties just because someone doesn't want to fuck them. I know I'm repeating myself here, but people reading this thread may not have read the other, hence I posted the link. It was certainly an informative thread. A The sex gets in the way because I'd say 99% of men would always want more. It's just in our nature as men. How we are wired. I must know a hell of a lot of guys in the 1% then because your numbers are skewed. Every thread about friendship on here has both men and women claiming they have healthy platonic friendships so it must be true. Claiming that 99% of men will fuck up those friendships is nonsense and then asking if people with friends like that are really happy just doubles down on the nonsense. " Exactly. It wasn't a male friend who fucked up the friendship for me! | |||
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"Yes, it's perfectly possible. Can it be disappointing when you want different things? Yes. But if it's a choice between friendship (with some disappointment to work through) and no friendship (and also the disappointment), then surely it's better to have the value of that person in your life? The value versus the kind of torture. The torture would be tipping the scales, think it would always be there subconsciously too. " I learned to manage and regulate these sorts of feelings in secondary school  Just a life skill. | |||
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"Yes. I have friends that I think are attractive and I wouldn’t dream of doing anything sexual with them because our friendship means more to me than a quick shag. " This ^ | |||
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"Yes. As argued by plenty of people here. Shame that the thread had to close at 175. https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/1428177 A I know, why I thought we could continue... Ok. Answer me this. How can the sex part always get in the way if the other party doesn't find you attractive and there's actually no sex? Sex can't be an issue if there isn't any. If the lack of sex is the blocker for any friendship then that's on you, not them. Most people can accept just friendship from others, on fab and in real life. They don't cut ties just because someone doesn't want to fuck them. I know I'm repeating myself here, but people reading this thread may not have read the other, hence I posted the link. It was certainly an informative thread. A The sex gets in the way because I'd say 99% of men would always want more. It's just in our nature as men. How we are wired. I must know a hell of a lot of guys in the 1% then because your numbers are skewed. Every thread about friendship on here has both men and women claiming they have healthy platonic friendships so it must be true. Claiming that 99% of men will fuck up those friendships is nonsense and then asking if people with friends like that are really happy just doubles down on the nonsense. " Are the guys just saying what they think women want to hear though? Are they being honest with themselves and the women they are settling for being friends with. | |||
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"Yes. As argued by plenty of people here. Shame that the thread had to close at 175. https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/1428177 A I know, why I thought we could continue... Ok. Answer me this. How can the sex part always get in the way if the other party doesn't find you attractive and there's actually no sex? Sex can't be an issue if there isn't any. If the lack of sex is the blocker for any friendship then that's on you, not them. Most people can accept just friendship from others, on fab and in real life. They don't cut ties just because someone doesn't want to fuck them. I know I'm repeating myself here, but people reading this thread may not have read the other, hence I posted the link. It was certainly an informative thread. A The sex gets in the way because I'd say 99% of men would always want more. It's just in our nature as men. How we are wired. I must know a hell of a lot of guys in the 1% then because your numbers are skewed. Every thread about friendship on here has both men and women claiming they have healthy platonic friendships so it must be true. Claiming that 99% of men will fuck up those friendships is nonsense and then asking if people with friends like that are really happy just doubles down on the nonsense. Are the guys just saying what they think women want to hear though? Are they being honest with themselves and the women they are settling for being friends with. " So men are either incapable of controlling themselves or they're lying? That's a pretty dim view of men. | |||
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"Yes, it's perfectly possible. Can it be disappointing when you want different things? Yes. But if it's a choice between friendship (with some disappointment to work through) and no friendship (and also the disappointment), then surely it's better to have the value of that person in your life? The value versus the kind of torture. The torture would be tipping the scales, think it would always be there subconsciously too. I learned to manage and regulate these sorts of feelings in secondary school Just a life skill."So if a guy you met, tried it on you weren't interested. He never spoke to you again after saying he wanted to be more than friends. Then he went off and met other people and looked happy. How would you feel about that? | |||
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"Yes. As argued by plenty of people here. Shame that the thread had to close at 175. https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/1428177 A I know, why I thought we could continue... Ok. Answer me this. How can the sex part always get in the way if the other party doesn't find you attractive and there's actually no sex? Sex can't be an issue if there isn't any. If the lack of sex is the blocker for any friendship then that's on you, not them. Most people can accept just friendship from others, on fab and in real life. They don't cut ties just because someone doesn't want to fuck them. I know I'm repeating myself here, but people reading this thread may not have read the other, hence I posted the link. It was certainly an informative thread. A The sex gets in the way because I'd say 99% of men would always want more. It's just in our nature as men. How we are wired. I must know a hell of a lot of guys in the 1% then because your numbers are skewed. Every thread about friendship on here has both men and women claiming they have healthy platonic friendships so it must be true. Claiming that 99% of men will fuck up those friendships is nonsense and then asking if people with friends like that are really happy just doubles down on the nonsense. Are the guys just saying what they think women want to hear though? Are they being honest with themselves and the women they are settling for being friends with. " Men are more than capable of having a mind of their own. It's what attracts a lot of women to them and what makes them amazing friends without the benefits. People like be attracted to others in many different ways that don't involve sex. You could just as easily ask how honest some women are with themselves. It's not gender specific. | |||
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"Yes, it's perfectly possible. Can it be disappointing when you want different things? Yes. But if it's a choice between friendship (with some disappointment to work through) and no friendship (and also the disappointment), then surely it's better to have the value of that person in your life? The value versus the kind of torture. The torture would be tipping the scales, think it would always be there subconsciously too. I learned to manage and regulate these sorts of feelings in secondary school Just a life skill. So if a guy you met, tried it on you weren't interested.
He never spoke to you again after saying he wanted to be more than friends. Then he went off and met other people and looked happy.
How would you feel about that?"If we'd had no pre-existing friendship I'd think he was only interested in fucking me, and feel pretty much close to nothing. I wasn't interested. If we'd had a friendship and he'd ended that because he couldn't regulate his penis to continue a relationship of value, I'd be somewhere between upset and devastated, depending on the depth of the friendship. And disappointed in him, because I'm not in the habit of making friends with people who are that shallow. If I were interested in someone and they said no, I'd continue whatever relationship we did or didn't have, and work through my emotions so that my disappointment didn't get in the way of relationships I value or might value. | |||
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"Yes, it's perfectly possible. Can it be disappointing when you want different things? Yes. But if it's a choice between friendship (with some disappointment to work through) and no friendship (and also the disappointment), then surely it's better to have the value of that person in your life? The value versus the kind of torture. The torture would be tipping the scales, think it would always be there subconsciously too. " Torture? This is the worrying attitude I referred to in the other thread. If someone feels that unrequited affection is torture then they need to wake up and recognise that in life you can't always get what you want. It's the kind of attitude displayed by your average incel and promotes the idea that men are entitled to a woman's affection and if it's not forthcoming then it's some kind of punishment. I've lost count of the people I've been attracted to during my lifetime. If I'd decided that because that attraction wasn't mutual I wanted nothing to do with them, then I'd have had very few female friends in my lifetime and missed out on some amazing friendships and experiences. I'll throw in that quote borrowed from someone who likes to tell men how to be men that I posted on the other thread, which pretty much summarised your views on non sexual relationships with women expressed on there. "Female friends are pointless. What kind of value am I going to get from a female friend? Nothing!" A | |||
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"Yes, it's perfectly possible. Can it be disappointing when you want different things? Yes. But if it's a choice between friendship (with some disappointment to work through) and no friendship (and also the disappointment), then surely it's better to have the value of that person in your life? The value versus the kind of torture. The torture would be tipping the scales, think it would always be there subconsciously too. Torture? This is the worrying attitude I referred to in the other thread. If someone feels that unrequited affection is torture then they need to wake up and recognise that in life you can't always get what you want. It's the kind of attitude displayed by your average incel and promotes the idea that men are entitled to a woman's affection and if it's not forthcoming then it's some kind of punishment. I've lost count of the people I've been attracted to during my lifetime. If I'd decided that because that attraction wasn't mutual I wanted nothing to do with them, then I'd have had very few female friends in my lifetime and missed out on some amazing friendships and experiences. I'll throw in that quote borrowed from someone who likes to tell men how to be men that I posted on the other thread, which pretty much summarised your views on non sexual relationships with women expressed on there. "Female friends are pointless. What kind of value am I going to get from a female friend? Nothing!" A" It felt like torture when I was twelve. Then again, my mum not letting me see some movie with my friends meant my life was over. I've gained a little perspective - on a lot of things - since then. | |||
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"Yes. As argued by plenty of people here. Shame that the thread had to close at 175. https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/1428177 A I know, why I thought we could continue... Ok. Answer me this. How can the sex part always get in the way if the other party doesn't find you attractive and there's actually no sex? Sex can't be an issue if there isn't any. If the lack of sex is the blocker for any friendship then that's on you, not them. Most people can accept just friendship from others, on fab and in real life. They don't cut ties just because someone doesn't want to fuck them. I know I'm repeating myself here, but people reading this thread may not have read the other, hence I posted the link. It was certainly an informative thread. A The sex gets in the way because I'd say 99% of men would always want more. It's just in our nature as men. How we are wired. Most men have control of that though. Don't they? Harry when in when Harry met Sally perfectly explained this in my opinion. I've never seen it Type in 'Harry met Sally friends' on YouTube. It is eloquently put. " Ok I've done that. It pretty much reinforces your opinion. I still don't agree with it. | |||
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"Yes as regardless how attractive you may find them it's about respecting those boundaries and appreciate the friendship if a person is unable to do this they seriously need to speak with a professional it's how crazy unhinged starts leading to stalking " You can be perfectly respectful, you wouldn't be stalking, your attention on them would be non existent anymore. | |||
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"Yes, it's perfectly possible. Can it be disappointing when you want different things? Yes. But if it's a choice between friendship (with some disappointment to work through) and no friendship (and also the disappointment), then surely it's better to have the value of that person in your life? The value versus the kind of torture. The torture would be tipping the scales, think it would always be there subconsciously too. Torture? This is the worrying attitude I referred to in the other thread. If someone feels that unrequited affection is torture then they need to wake up and recognise that in life you can't always get what you want. It's the kind of attitude displayed by your average incel and promotes the idea that men are entitled to a woman's affection and if it's not forthcoming then it's some kind of punishment. I've lost count of the people I've been attracted to during my lifetime. If I'd decided that because that attraction wasn't mutual I wanted nothing to do with them, then I'd have had very few female friends in my lifetime and missed out on some amazing friendships and experiences. I'll throw in that quote borrowed from someone who likes to tell men how to be men that I posted on the other thread, which pretty much summarised your views on non sexual relationships with women expressed on there. "Female friends are pointless. What kind of value am I going to get from a female friend? Nothing!" A" I think that is some kind of mental torture as the woman knows the guy wants to sleep with her. | |||
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"Yes. As argued by plenty of people here. Shame that the thread had to close at 175. https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/1428177 A I know, why I thought we could continue... Ok. Answer me this. How can the sex part always get in the way if the other party doesn't find you attractive and there's actually no sex? Sex can't be an issue if there isn't any. If the lack of sex is the blocker for any friendship then that's on you, not them. Most people can accept just friendship from others, on fab and in real life. They don't cut ties just because someone doesn't want to fuck them. I know I'm repeating myself here, but people reading this thread may not have read the other, hence I posted the link. It was certainly an informative thread. A The sex gets in the way because I'd say 99% of men would always want more. It's just in our nature as men. How we are wired. Most men have control of that though. Don't they? Harry when in when Harry met Sally perfectly explained this in my opinion. I've never seen it Type in 'Harry met Sally friends' on YouTube. It is eloquently put. Ok I've done that. It pretty much reinforces your opinion. I still don't agree with it." Good film that too. That ends happily. | |||
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"Yes. As argued by plenty of people here. Shame that the thread had to close at 175. https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/1428177 A I know, why I thought we could continue... Ok. Answer me this. How can the sex part always get in the way if the other party doesn't find you attractive and there's actually no sex? Sex can't be an issue if there isn't any. If the lack of sex is the blocker for any friendship then that's on you, not them. Most people can accept just friendship from others, on fab and in real life. They don't cut ties just because someone doesn't want to fuck them. I know I'm repeating myself here, but people reading this thread may not have read the other, hence I posted the link. It was certainly an informative thread. A The sex gets in the way because I'd say 99% of men would always want more. It's just in our nature as men. How we are wired. Most men have control of that though. Don't they? Harry when in when Harry met Sally perfectly explained this in my opinion. I've never seen it Type in 'Harry met Sally friends' on YouTube. It is eloquently put. Ok I've done that. It pretty much reinforces your opinion. I still don't agree with it. Good film that too. That ends happily. " Most do because they're usually fiction. | |||
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"Yes, it's perfectly possible. Can it be disappointing when you want different things? Yes. But if it's a choice between friendship (with some disappointment to work through) and no friendship (and also the disappointment), then surely it's better to have the value of that person in your life? The value versus the kind of torture. The torture would be tipping the scales, think it would always be there subconsciously too. Torture? This is the worrying attitude I referred to in the other thread. If someone feels that unrequited affection is torture then they need to wake up and recognise that in life you can't always get what you want. It's the kind of attitude displayed by your average incel and promotes the idea that men are entitled to a woman's affection and if it's not forthcoming then it's some kind of punishment. I've lost count of the people I've been attracted to during my lifetime. If I'd decided that because that attraction wasn't mutual I wanted nothing to do with them, then I'd have had very few female friends in my lifetime and missed out on some amazing friendships and experiences. I'll throw in that quote borrowed from someone who likes to tell men how to be men that I posted on the other thread, which pretty much summarised your views on non sexual relationships with women expressed on there. "Female friends are pointless. What kind of value am I going to get from a female friend? Nothing!" A I think that is some kind of mental torture as the woman knows the guy wants to sleep with her. " I assume men are adults and handle their feelings. If they dwell on it, that's on them not me. | |||
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"Yes as regardless how attractive you may find them it's about respecting those boundaries and appreciate the friendship if a person is unable to do this they seriously need to speak with a professional it's how crazy unhinged starts leading to stalking You can be perfectly respectful, you wouldn't be stalking, your attention on them would be non existent anymore. " Obviously you don't understand the concept of friendship as you don't need to want to see them in a sexual way you enjoy the nature of them and the company and bounce off each other regardless of the time whether difficult or not | |||
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"Yes, it's perfectly possible. Can it be disappointing when you want different things? Yes. But if it's a choice between friendship (with some disappointment to work through) and no friendship (and also the disappointment), then surely it's better to have the value of that person in your life? The value versus the kind of torture. The torture would be tipping the scales, think it would always be there subconsciously too. Torture? This is the worrying attitude I referred to in the other thread. If someone feels that unrequited affection is torture then they need to wake up and recognise that in life you can't always get what you want. It's the kind of attitude displayed by your average incel and promotes the idea that men are entitled to a woman's affection and if it's not forthcoming then it's some kind of punishment. I've lost count of the people I've been attracted to during my lifetime. If I'd decided that because that attraction wasn't mutual I wanted nothing to do with them, then I'd have had very few female friends in my lifetime and missed out on some amazing friendships and experiences. I'll throw in that quote borrowed from someone who likes to tell men how to be men that I posted on the other thread, which pretty much summarised your views on non sexual relationships with women expressed on there. "Female friends are pointless. What kind of value am I going to get from a female friend? Nothing!" A I think that is some kind of mental torture as the woman knows the guy wants to sleep with her. Why? Why can you just not think "oh well, never mind" remain friends and look for a relationship elsewhere? It is possible to have female friends AND be in a relationship with one and also find other people attractive. It's also perfectly possible for the person you're in a sexual relationship with to have platonic friends of the opposite sex that find her attractive. The only person stopping any of that is you. Not them or anyone else. A " Maybe it's a competitive nature. And if you did want it to happen accepting the friendship I don't think would help you. Just think it's a stronger move to accept, go off and better yourself. | |||
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"Can lesbians be friends with women or gay men be friends with men? Is it a straight man thing or a people thing? Good question, I don't know, more of my perspective as a straight man. It's interesting though. Would you consider being friends with a gay man or lesbian woman of would you be concerned that the man would want to have sex with you? Why would anyone be 'concerned' about such a notion? That's a bizarre thing to suggest isn't it? Do you assume all gay men are rampantly plotting to sexually conquer every straight guy they meet? I have numerous male gay friends, and this doesn't come into my thinking at all." My question is framed within the context of the ops point of view. I'm asking it to better understand why he thinks the way he does, not because I assume gay men are rampant plotting | |||
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Show them what they might have missed. Show them your value.
Friendzone is rejection ultimately.
"They know 'what they've missed'. Maybe they see huge value in you as a friend but just don't want to fuck you - I know you struggle to accept that concept but trust me, it happens a lot to 99% of people (probably excluding Margot Robbie and Henry Cavill). As I said on the other thread the 'friendzone' concept is an artificial construct. It's not negative to be considered a friend by someone. Grow up and deal with the fact that not everyone is attracted to you as a relationship partner but may well be attracted to you as a friend. Otherwise a lonely life looms ahead. Or at least one where all your friends are male. A | |||
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"Can lesbians be friends with women or gay men be friends with men? Is it a straight man thing or a people thing? Good question, I don't know, more of my perspective as a straight man. It's interesting though. Would you consider being friends with a gay man or lesbian woman of would you be concerned that the man would want to have sex with you? Why would anyone be 'concerned' about such a notion? That's a bizarre thing to suggest isn't it? Do you assume all gay men are rampantly plotting to sexually conquer every straight guy they meet? I have numerous male gay friends, and this doesn't come into my thinking at all. Look at the way the OP has described friendships with women. The description of gay men is analogous I haven't described any gay men, that wasn't me. So! Could you form a friendship with a gay man? I know several gay men. I'm friends with a few. I don't know whether they find me attractive though. They haven't explicitly stated it. Or tried to meet me in a sexual way. " Ok. Doesn't it follow then that men can form friendships where a possibility of one sided sexual attraction might occur? | |||
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Show them what they might have missed. Show them your value.
Friendzone is rejection ultimately.
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A Attraction is a funny thing sometimes.
Show them what they might have missed. Show them your value.
Friendzone is rejection ultimately.
They know 'what they've missed'.
Maybe they see huge value in you as a friend but just don't want to fuck you - I know you struggle to accept that concept but trust me, it happens a lot to 99% of people (probably excluding Margot Robbie and Henry Cavill).
As I said on the other thread the 'friendzone' concept is an artificial construct. It's not negative to be considered a friend by someone.
Grow up and deal with the fact that not everyone is attracted to you as a relationship partner but may well be attracted to you as a friend.
Otherwise a lonely life looms ahead. Or at least one where all your friends are male.
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Show them what they might have missed. Show them your value.
Friendzone is rejection ultimately.
Many would see it as the opposite of rejection but then again most people don't make friends with the ultimate aim of shagging them"How is it though? It is clearly rejection. If I'm trying to meet a woman or couple of here, or girl off an app etc I'm wanting to have sex. I don't think that is a bad intention. | |||
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A Attraction is a funny thing sometimes.
Show them what they might have missed. Show them your value.
Friendzone is rejection ultimately.
Many would see it as the opposite of rejection but then again most people don't make friends with the ultimate aim of shagging them How is it though?
It is clearly rejection.
If I'm trying to meet a woman or couple of here, or girl off an app etc I'm wanting to have sex. I don't think that is a bad intention. "People who can't handle rejection worry me. It's part of life. Accept it. And we're not talking about on Fab are we. We're discussing the real world. Not that there's any difference of course. A | |||
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A Attraction is a funny thing sometimes.
Show them what they might have missed. Show them your value.
Friendzone is rejection ultimately.
Many would see it as the opposite of rejection but then again most people don't make friends with the ultimate aim of shagging them How is it though?
It is clearly rejection.
If I'm trying to meet a woman or couple of here, or girl off an app etc I'm wanting to have sex. I don't think that is a bad intention.
People who can't handle rejection worry me.
It's part of life. Accept it.
And we're not talking about on Fab are we. We're discussing the real world.
Not that there's any difference of course.
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A Attraction is a funny thing sometimes.
Show them what they might have missed. Show them your value.
Friendzone is rejection ultimately.
Many would see it as the opposite of rejection but then again most people don't make friends with the ultimate aim of shagging them How is it though?
It is clearly rejection.
If I'm trying to meet a woman or couple of here, or girl off an app etc I'm wanting to have sex. I don't think that is a bad intention.
People who can't handle rejection worry me.
It's part of life. Accept it.
And we're not talking about on Fab are we. We're discussing the real world.
Not that there's any difference of course.
A"Friendzone doesn't make much sense in the Fab context. "Sorry you're not what I'm looking for" end of conversation. Fine. It only really makes sense when there's potentially a friendship to be had... Which implies a more complex and less transactional interaction. Or at least one where a potential friendship was on the cards. Even if I accept - which I don't - that the entire concept of "friendzone" isn't petulant and entitled. | |||
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A Attraction is a funny thing sometimes.
Show them what they might have missed. Show them your value.
Friendzone is rejection ultimately.
Many would see it as the opposite of rejection but then again most people don't make friends with the ultimate aim of shagging them How is it though?
It is clearly rejection.
If I'm trying to meet a woman or couple of here, or girl off an app etc I'm wanting to have sex. I don't think that is a bad intention.
People who can't handle rejection worry me.
It's part of life. Accept it.
And we're not talking about on Fab are we. We're discussing the real world.
Not that there's any difference of course.
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Show them what they might have missed. Show them your value.
Friendzone is rejection ultimately.
Many would see it as the opposite of rejection but then again most people don't make friends with the ultimate aim of shagging them How is it though?
It is clearly rejection.
If I'm trying to meet a woman or couple of here, or girl off an app etc I'm wanting to have sex. I don't think that is a bad intention.
People who can't handle rejection worry me.
It's part of life. Accept it.
And we're not talking about on Fab are we. We're discussing the real world.
Not that there's any difference of course.
A How is walking away and ceasing communication not being able to handle rejection?
Wanting to still be friends when that wasn't your intention is not accepting to me.
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Show them what they might have missed. Show them your value.
Friendzone is rejection ultimately.
Many would see it as the opposite of rejection but then again most people don't make friends with the ultimate aim of shagging them How is it though?
It is clearly rejection.
If I'm trying to meet a woman or couple of here, or girl off an app etc I'm wanting to have sex. I don't think that is a bad intention.
People who can't handle rejection worry me.
It's part of life. Accept it.
And we're not talking about on Fab are we. We're discussing the real world.
Not that there's any difference of course.
A How is walking away and ceasing communication not being able to handle rejection?
Wanting to still be friends when that wasn't your intention is not accepting to me.
Do you have any female friends in the outside world?
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A Attraction is a funny thing sometimes.
Show them what they might have missed. Show them your value.
Friendzone is rejection ultimately.
Many would see it as the opposite of rejection but then again most people don't make friends with the ultimate aim of shagging them How is it though?
It is clearly rejection.
If I'm trying to meet a woman or couple of here, or girl off an app etc I'm wanting to have sex. I don't think that is a bad intention.
People who can't handle rejection worry me.
It's part of life. Accept it.
And we're not talking about on Fab are we. We're discussing the real world.
Not that there's any difference of course.
A How is walking away and ceasing communication not being able to handle rejection?
Wanting to still be friends when that wasn't your intention is not accepting to me.
Do you have any female friends in the outside world?
A Not that I'm attracted too. No.
I want all my options open. It's happened before by not accepting friendzone it might happen again.
If I accept it though, it is much more unlikely to happen. "You think that if you don't accept someone's friendship it will stop you meeting someone else?
I'm confused.
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" Just think it's a stronger move to accept, go off and better yourself. Why stronger? Surely an inability to accept that someone doesn't find you as attractive as you find them is a significant emotional weakness? As for 'better yourself' ?
How?
A Attraction is a funny thing sometimes.
Show them what they might have missed. Show them your value.
Friendzone is rejection ultimately.
Many would see it as the opposite of rejection but then again most people don't make friends with the ultimate aim of shagging them How is it though?
It is clearly rejection.
If I'm trying to meet a woman or couple of here, or girl off an app etc I'm wanting to have sex. I don't think that is a bad intention.
People who can't handle rejection worry me.
It's part of life. Accept it.
And we're not talking about on Fab are we. We're discussing the real world.
Not that there's any difference of course.
A How is walking away and ceasing communication not being able to handle rejection?
Wanting to still be friends when that wasn't your intention is not accepting to me.
Do you have any female friends in the outside world?
A Not that I'm attracted too. No.
I want all my options open. It's happened before by not accepting friendzone it might happen again.
If I accept it though, it is much more unlikely to happen. "Are you saying that if you're friends with a woman you're attracted to, she's less likely to fuck you, and you want to maximise the likelihood you'll get laid? | |||
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" Just think it's a stronger move to accept, go off and better yourself. Why stronger? Surely an inability to accept that someone doesn't find you as attractive as you find them is a significant emotional weakness? As for 'better yourself' ?
How?
A Attraction is a funny thing sometimes.
Show them what they might have missed. Show them your value.
Friendzone is rejection ultimately.
Many would see it as the opposite of rejection but then again most people don't make friends with the ultimate aim of shagging them How is it though?
It is clearly rejection.
If I'm trying to meet a woman or couple of here, or girl off an app etc I'm wanting to have sex. I don't think that is a bad intention.
People who can't handle rejection worry me.
It's part of life. Accept it.
And we're not talking about on Fab are we. We're discussing the real world.
Not that there's any difference of course.
A How is walking away and ceasing communication not being able to handle rejection?
Wanting to still be friends when that wasn't your intention is not accepting to me.
Do you have any female friends in the outside world?
A Not that I'm attracted too. No.
I want all my options open. It's happened before by not accepting friendzone it might happen again.
If I accept it though, it is much more unlikely to happen.
You think that if you don't accept someone's friendship it will stop you meeting someone else?
I'm confused.
A
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" Just think it's a stronger move to accept, go off and better yourself. Why stronger? Surely an inability to accept that someone doesn't find you as attractive as you find them is a significant emotional weakness? As for 'better yourself' ?
How?
A Attraction is a funny thing sometimes.
Show them what they might have missed. Show them your value.
Friendzone is rejection ultimately.
Many would see it as the opposite of rejection but then again most people don't make friends with the ultimate aim of shagging them How is it though?
It is clearly rejection.
If I'm trying to meet a woman or couple of here, or girl off an app etc I'm wanting to have sex. I don't think that is a bad intention.
People who can't handle rejection worry me.
It's part of life. Accept it.
And we're not talking about on Fab are we. We're discussing the real world.
Not that there's any difference of course.
A How is walking away and ceasing communication not being able to handle rejection?
Wanting to still be friends when that wasn't your intention is not accepting to me.
Do you have any female friends in the outside world?
A Not that I'm attracted too. No.
I want all my options open. It's happened before by not accepting friendzone it might happen again.
If I accept it though, it is much more unlikely to happen.
You think that if you don't accept someone's friendship it will stop you meeting someone else?
I'm confused.
A
If I accepted her friendship it would probably stop any chance I had of having sex with her.
Sometimes it's a test.
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" Just think it's a stronger move to accept, go off and better yourself. Why stronger? Surely an inability to accept that someone doesn't find you as attractive as you find them is a significant emotional weakness? As for 'better yourself' ?
How?
A Attraction is a funny thing sometimes.
Show them what they might have missed. Show them your value.
Friendzone is rejection ultimately.
Many would see it as the opposite of rejection but then again most people don't make friends with the ultimate aim of shagging them How is it though?
It is clearly rejection.
If I'm trying to meet a woman or couple of here, or girl off an app etc I'm wanting to have sex. I don't think that is a bad intention.
People who can't handle rejection worry me.
It's part of life. Accept it.
And we're not talking about on Fab are we. We're discussing the real world.
Not that there's any difference of course.
A How is walking away and ceasing communication not being able to handle rejection?
Wanting to still be friends when that wasn't your intention is not accepting to me.
Do you have any female friends in the outside world?
A Not that I'm attracted too. No.
I want all my options open. It's happened before by not accepting friendzone it might happen again.
If I accept it though, it is much more unlikely to happen.
Are you saying that if you're friends with a woman you're attracted to, she's less likely to fuck you, and you want to maximise the likelihood you'll get laid?"No, I'm saying if I accept her friendship she will view me in a different light. I can accept she doesn't want to have sex so I will leave her alone and do my own thing. I will keep the door open though by saying if you change your mind let me know. They'll be watching, guarantee it. | |||
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" Just think it's a stronger move to accept, go off and better yourself. Why stronger? Surely an inability to accept that someone doesn't find you as attractive as you find them is a significant emotional weakness? As for 'better yourself' ?
How?
A Attraction is a funny thing sometimes.
Show them what they might have missed. Show them your value.
Friendzone is rejection ultimately.
Many would see it as the opposite of rejection but then again most people don't make friends with the ultimate aim of shagging them How is it though?
It is clearly rejection.
If I'm trying to meet a woman or couple of here, or girl off an app etc I'm wanting to have sex. I don't think that is a bad intention.
People who can't handle rejection worry me.
It's part of life. Accept it.
And we're not talking about on Fab are we. We're discussing the real world.
Not that there's any difference of course.
A How is walking away and ceasing communication not being able to handle rejection?
Wanting to still be friends when that wasn't your intention is not accepting to me.
Do you have any female friends in the outside world?
A Not that I'm attracted too. No.
I want all my options open. It's happened before by not accepting friendzone it might happen again.
If I accept it though, it is much more unlikely to happen.
You think that if you don't accept someone's friendship it will stop you meeting someone else?
I'm confused.
A
If I accepted her friendship it would probably stop any chance I had of having sex with her.
Sometimes it's a test.
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" Just think it's a stronger move to accept, go off and better yourself. Why stronger? Surely an inability to accept that someone doesn't find you as attractive as you find them is a significant emotional weakness? As for 'better yourself' ?
How?
A Attraction is a funny thing sometimes.
Show them what they might have missed. Show them your value.
Friendzone is rejection ultimately.
Many would see it as the opposite of rejection but then again most people don't make friends with the ultimate aim of shagging them How is it though?
It is clearly rejection.
If I'm trying to meet a woman or couple of here, or girl off an app etc I'm wanting to have sex. I don't think that is a bad intention.
People who can't handle rejection worry me.
It's part of life. Accept it.
And we're not talking about on Fab are we. We're discussing the real world.
Not that there's any difference of course.
A How is walking away and ceasing communication not being able to handle rejection?
Wanting to still be friends when that wasn't your intention is not accepting to me.
Do you have any female friends in the outside world?
A Not that I'm attracted too. No.
I want all my options open. It's happened before by not accepting friendzone it might happen again.
If I accept it though, it is much more unlikely to happen.
You think that if you don't accept someone's friendship it will stop you meeting someone else?
I'm confused.
A
If I accepted her friendship it would probably stop any chance I had of having sex with her.
Sometimes it's a test.
If she says no, the answer is no "Yeah and I accept that and I say no to her friendship offer and leave her alone. You are getting confused I didn't suggest anything forceful. | |||
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" Just think it's a stronger move to accept, go off and better yourself. Why stronger? Surely an inability to accept that someone doesn't find you as attractive as you find them is a significant emotional weakness? As for 'better yourself' ?
How?
A Attraction is a funny thing sometimes.
Show them what they might have missed. Show them your value.
Friendzone is rejection ultimately.
Many would see it as the opposite of rejection but then again most people don't make friends with the ultimate aim of shagging them How is it though?
It is clearly rejection.
If I'm trying to meet a woman or couple of here, or girl off an app etc I'm wanting to have sex. I don't think that is a bad intention.
People who can't handle rejection worry me.
It's part of life. Accept it.
And we're not talking about on Fab are we. We're discussing the real world.
Not that there's any difference of course.
A How is walking away and ceasing communication not being able to handle rejection?
Wanting to still be friends when that wasn't your intention is not accepting to me.
Do you have any female friends in the outside world?
A Not that I'm attracted too. No.
I want all my options open. It's happened before by not accepting friendzone it might happen again.
If I accept it though, it is much more unlikely to happen.
You think that if you don't accept someone's friendship it will stop you meeting someone else?
I'm confused.
A
If I accepted her friendship it would probably stop any chance I had of having sex with her.
Sometimes it's a test.
I had promised myself to step away from this but a test of what?"That's the strongest move you can make in that situation. They are testing what kind of man you are. | |||
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" Just think it's a stronger move to accept, go off and better yourself. Why stronger? Surely an inability to accept that someone doesn't find you as attractive as you find them is a significant emotional weakness? As for 'better yourself' ?
How?
A Attraction is a funny thing sometimes.
Show them what they might have missed. Show them your value.
Friendzone is rejection ultimately.
Many would see it as the opposite of rejection but then again most people don't make friends with the ultimate aim of shagging them How is it though?
It is clearly rejection.
If I'm trying to meet a woman or couple of here, or girl off an app etc I'm wanting to have sex. I don't think that is a bad intention.
People who can't handle rejection worry me.
It's part of life. Accept it.
And we're not talking about on Fab are we. We're discussing the real world.
Not that there's any difference of course.
A How is walking away and ceasing communication not being able to handle rejection?
Wanting to still be friends when that wasn't your intention is not accepting to me.
Do you have any female friends in the outside world?
A Not that I'm attracted too. No.
I want all my options open. It's happened before by not accepting friendzone it might happen again.
If I accept it though, it is much more unlikely to happen.
Are you saying that if you're friends with a woman you're attracted to, she's less likely to fuck you, and you want to maximise the likelihood you'll get laid? No, I'm saying if I accept her friendship she will view me in a different light.
I can accept she doesn't want to have sex so I will leave her alone and do my own thing.
I will keep the door open though by saying if you change your mind let me know.
They'll be watching, guarantee it.
"I'll agree. If a friend accepts my friendship even though I don't want to fuck him, I'll view him in a different light to if he doesn't accept it. If he doesn't accept it, I'll view him as someone who doesn't value me as a person, and someone I wouldn't want to fuck even if there were a gun to my head. If he does, I'll view him as a decent human being. Very different lights indeed. | |||
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" Just think it's a stronger move to accept, go off and better yourself. Why stronger? Surely an inability to accept that someone doesn't find you as attractive as you find them is a significant emotional weakness? As for 'better yourself' ?
How?
A Attraction is a funny thing sometimes.
Show them what they might have missed. Show them your value.
Friendzone is rejection ultimately.
Many would see it as the opposite of rejection but then again most people don't make friends with the ultimate aim of shagging them How is it though?
It is clearly rejection.
If I'm trying to meet a woman or couple of here, or girl off an app etc I'm wanting to have sex. I don't think that is a bad intention.
People who can't handle rejection worry me.
It's part of life. Accept it.
And we're not talking about on Fab are we. We're discussing the real world.
Not that there's any difference of course.
A How is walking away and ceasing communication not being able to handle rejection?
Wanting to still be friends when that wasn't your intention is not accepting to me.
Do you have any female friends in the outside world?
A Not that I'm attracted too. No.
I want all my options open. It's happened before by not accepting friendzone it might happen again.
If I accept it though, it is much more unlikely to happen.
Are you saying that if you're friends with a woman you're attracted to, she's less likely to fuck you, and you want to maximise the likelihood you'll get laid? No, I'm saying if I accept her friendship she will view me in a different light.
I can accept she doesn't want to have sex so I will leave her alone and do my own thing.
I will keep the door open though by saying if you change your mind let me know.
They'll be watching, guarantee it.
I'll agree. If a friend accepts my friendship even though I don't want to fuck him, I'll view him in a different light to if he doesn't accept it.
If he doesn't accept it, I'll view him as someone who doesn't value me as a person, and someone I wouldn't want to fuck even if there were a gun to my head.
If he does, I'll view him as a decent human being.
Very different lights indeed."I promise you now if it happens to you, you will be shocked. And you will be more interested. | |||
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" Just think it's a stronger move to accept, go off and better yourself. Why stronger? Surely an inability to accept that someone doesn't find you as attractive as you find them is a significant emotional weakness? As for 'better yourself' ?
How?
A Attraction is a funny thing sometimes.
Show them what they might have missed. Show them your value.
Friendzone is rejection ultimately.
Many would see it as the opposite of rejection but then again most people don't make friends with the ultimate aim of shagging them How is it though?
It is clearly rejection.
If I'm trying to meet a woman or couple of here, or girl off an app etc I'm wanting to have sex. I don't think that is a bad intention.
People who can't handle rejection worry me.
It's part of life. Accept it.
And we're not talking about on Fab are we. We're discussing the real world.
Not that there's any difference of course.
A How is walking away and ceasing communication not being able to handle rejection?
Wanting to still be friends when that wasn't your intention is not accepting to me.
Do you have any female friends in the outside world?
A Not that I'm attracted too. No.
I want all my options open. It's happened before by not accepting friendzone it might happen again.
If I accept it though, it is much more unlikely to happen.
You think that if you don't accept someone's friendship it will stop you meeting someone else?
I'm confused.
A
If I accepted her friendship it would probably stop any chance I had of having sex with her.
Sometimes it's a test.
"Oh god.
Her saying no isn't a test. She's a grown up who knows her mind.
And if there was any chance of her changing her mind then you cutting ties and blanking her the second you're 'rejected' is a sure fire way to get her to rethink, obviously.....  
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" Just think it's a stronger move to accept, go off and better yourself. Why stronger? Surely an inability to accept that someone doesn't find you as attractive as you find them is a significant emotional weakness? As for 'better yourself' ?
How?
A Attraction is a funny thing sometimes.
Show them what they might have missed. Show them your value.
Friendzone is rejection ultimately.
Many would see it as the opposite of rejection but then again most people don't make friends with the ultimate aim of shagging them How is it though?
It is clearly rejection.
If I'm trying to meet a woman or couple of here, or girl off an app etc I'm wanting to have sex. I don't think that is a bad intention.
People who can't handle rejection worry me.
It's part of life. Accept it.
And we're not talking about on Fab are we. We're discussing the real world.
Not that there's any difference of course.
A How is walking away and ceasing communication not being able to handle rejection?
Wanting to still be friends when that wasn't your intention is not accepting to me.
Do you have any female friends in the outside world?
A Not that I'm attracted too. No.
I want all my options open. It's happened before by not accepting friendzone it might happen again.
If I accept it though, it is much more unlikely to happen.
You think that if you don't accept someone's friendship it will stop you meeting someone else?
I'm confused.
A
If I accepted her friendship it would probably stop any chance I had of having sex with her.
Sometimes it's a test.
If she says no, the answer is no Yeah and I accept that and I say no to her friendship offer and leave her alone.
You are getting confused I didn't suggest anything forceful. "I know you didn't imply anything forceful. Someone who views sexual attraction as incompatible with friendship, and who can't handle disappointment, is about as attractive to me as a ham sandwich left to rot in a school locker over a hot summer. | |||
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"Yes. As argued by plenty of people here. Shame that the thread had to close at 175. https://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/1428177 A I know, why I thought we could continue... Ok. Answer me this. How can the sex part always get in the way if the other party doesn't find you attractive and there's actually no sex? Sex can't be an issue if there isn't any. If the lack of sex is the blocker for any friendship then that's on you, not them. Most people can accept just friendship from others, on fab and in real life. They don't cut ties just because someone doesn't want to fuck them. I know I'm repeating myself here, but people reading this thread may not have read the other, hence I posted the link. It was certainly an informative thread. A The sex gets in the way because I'd say 99% of men would always want more. It's just in our nature as men. How we are wired. " Because men think with their dicks and not their minds. Lol. | |||
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How?
A Attraction is a funny thing sometimes.
Show them what they might have missed. Show them your value.
Friendzone is rejection ultimately.
Many would see it as the opposite of rejection but then again most people don't make friends with the ultimate aim of shagging them How is it though?
It is clearly rejection.
If I'm trying to meet a woman or couple of here, or girl off an app etc I'm wanting to have sex. I don't think that is a bad intention.
People who can't handle rejection worry me.
It's part of life. Accept it.
And we're not talking about on Fab are we. We're discussing the real world.
Not that there's any difference of course.
A How is walking away and ceasing communication not being able to handle rejection?
Wanting to still be friends when that wasn't your intention is not accepting to me.
Do you have any female friends in the outside world?
A Not that I'm attracted too. No.
I want all my options open. It's happened before by not accepting friendzone it might happen again.
If I accept it though, it is much more unlikely to happen.
Are you saying that if you're friends with a woman you're attracted to, she's less likely to fuck you, and you want to maximise the likelihood you'll get laid? No, I'm saying if I accept her friendship she will view me in a different light.
I can accept she doesn't want to have sex so I will leave her alone and do my own thing.
I will keep the door open though by saying if you change your mind let me know.
They'll be watching, guarantee it.
I'll agree. If a friend accepts my friendship even though I don't want to fuck him, I'll view him in a different light to if he doesn't accept it.
If he doesn't accept it, I'll view him as someone who doesn't value me as a person, and someone I wouldn't want to fuck even if there were a gun to my head.
If he does, I'll view him as a decent human being.
Very different lights indeed. I promise you now if it happens to you, you will be shocked.
And you will be more interested.
"I promise you I know my own mind better than you do, and these manipulative games are about 100 times less attractive to me than you cutting my breasts off and eating them served with a garnish of dog vomit. | |||
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" Just think it's a stronger move to accept, go off and better yourself. Why stronger? Surely an inability to accept that someone doesn't find you as attractive as you find them is a significant emotional weakness? As for 'better yourself' ?
How?
A Attraction is a funny thing sometimes.
Show them what they might have missed. Show them your value.
Friendzone is rejection ultimately.
Many would see it as the opposite of rejection but then again most people don't make friends with the ultimate aim of shagging them How is it though?
It is clearly rejection.
If I'm trying to meet a woman or couple of here, or girl off an app etc I'm wanting to have sex. I don't think that is a bad intention.
People who can't handle rejection worry me.
It's part of life. Accept it.
And we're not talking about on Fab are we. We're discussing the real world.
Not that there's any difference of course.
A How is walking away and ceasing communication not being able to handle rejection?
Wanting to still be friends when that wasn't your intention is not accepting to me.
Do you have any female friends in the outside world?
A Not that I'm attracted too. No.
I want all my options open. It's happened before by not accepting friendzone it might happen again.
If I accept it though, it is much more unlikely to happen.
You think that if you don't accept someone's friendship it will stop you meeting someone else?
I'm confused.
A
If I accepted her friendship it would probably stop any chance I had of having sex with her.
Sometimes it's a test.
I had promised myself to step away from this but a test of what? That's the strongest move you can make in that situation.
They are testing what kind of man you are.
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" They'll be watching, guarantee it. " No. They'll not give a shit about someone who cut them off the second they were turned down for sex. They'll have moved on to someone else, will be getting happily fucked by someone who sees them as a person who is a friend instead of a sex object and will be merrily making friends along the way. This thread has thrown up more red flags than your average Chinese military parade.
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How?
A Attraction is a funny thing sometimes.
Show them what they might have missed. Show them your value.
Friendzone is rejection ultimately.
Many would see it as the opposite of rejection but then again most people don't make friends with the ultimate aim of shagging them How is it though?
It is clearly rejection.
If I'm trying to meet a woman or couple of here, or girl off an app etc I'm wanting to have sex. I don't think that is a bad intention.
People who can't handle rejection worry me.
It's part of life. Accept it.
And we're not talking about on Fab are we. We're discussing the real world.
Not that there's any difference of course.
A How is walking away and ceasing communication not being able to handle rejection?
Wanting to still be friends when that wasn't your intention is not accepting to me.
Do you have any female friends in the outside world?
A Not that I'm attracted too. No.
I want all my options open. It's happened before by not accepting friendzone it might happen again.
If I accept it though, it is much more unlikely to happen.
You think that if you don't accept someone's friendship it will stop you meeting someone else?
I'm confused.
A
If I accepted her friendship it would probably stop any chance I had of having sex with her.
Sometimes it's a test.
Oh god.
Her saying no isn't a test. She's a grown up who knows her mind.
And if there was any chance of her changing her mind then you cutting ties and blanking her the second you're 'rejected' is a sure fire way to get her to rethink, obviously.....
A"I told you it's worked before. Maybe all those attractive friends you had you could slept with some of them with a different approach. | |||
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A"Quite. These tactics might work on women who are young, naive, troubled, or all three. For women who are confident in themselves and have been around for five minutes, they scream manipulative dramatics, best avoided. I'd mourn any friendship and move on. | |||
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" They'll be watching, guarantee it. No. They'll not give a shit about someone who cut them off the second they were turned down for sex. They'll have moved on to someone else, will be getting happily fucked by someone who sees them as a person who is a friend instead of a sex object and will be merrily making friends along the way. This thread has thrown up more red flags than your average Chinese military parade.
A How would you know, you've never done it before.
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A How would you know, you've never done it before.
You accepted what you were given. "You should always accept what you're given in that way. Jeez! You may be saying you'd not use force, but coercion isn't exactly something to be proud of either! | |||
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" They'll be watching, guarantee it. No. They'll not give a shit about someone who cut them off the second they were turned down for sex. They'll have moved on to someone else, will be getting happily fucked by someone who sees them as a person who is a friend instead of a sex object and will be merrily making friends along the way. This thread has thrown up more red flags than your average Chinese military parade.
A How would you know, you've never done it before.
You accepted what you were given.
You should always accept what you're given in that way. Jeez!
You may be saying you'd not use force, but coercion isn't exactly something to be proud of either!"Quite! Yuck. | |||
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How?
A Attraction is a funny thing sometimes.
Show them what they might have missed. Show them your value.
Friendzone is rejection ultimately.
Many would see it as the opposite of rejection but then again most people don't make friends with the ultimate aim of shagging them How is it though?
It is clearly rejection.
If I'm trying to meet a woman or couple of here, or girl off an app etc I'm wanting to have sex. I don't think that is a bad intention.
People who can't handle rejection worry me.
It's part of life. Accept it.
And we're not talking about on Fab are we. We're discussing the real world.
Not that there's any difference of course.
A How is walking away and ceasing communication not being able to handle rejection?
Wanting to still be friends when that wasn't your intention is not accepting to me.
Do you have any female friends in the outside world?
A Not that I'm attracted too. No.
I want all my options open. It's happened before by not accepting friendzone it might happen again.
If I accept it though, it is much more unlikely to happen.
You think that if you don't accept someone's friendship it will stop you meeting someone else?
I'm confused.
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If I accepted her friendship it would probably stop any chance I had of having sex with her.
Sometimes it's a test.
Oh god.
Her saying no isn't a test. She's a grown up who knows her mind.
And if there was any chance of her changing her mind then you cutting ties and blanking her the second you're 'rejected' is a sure fire way to get her to rethink, obviously.....
A I told you it's worked before.
Maybe all those attractive friends you had you could slept with some of them with a different approach. "I have over 6000 friends nationwide and a huge amount of them are female and some extremely attractive. Would I have a sexual relationship with any prob not because I wouldn't want it effecting the friendship we already have because being intimate isn't just about getting your end away and people aren't sexual objects just because you feel horny | |||
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A How would you know, you've never done it before.
You accepted what you were given.
You should always accept what you're given in that way. Jeez!
You may be saying you'd not use force, but coercion isn't exactly something to be proud of either!"It is not coercion, I'm happy if they get back in contact or not. If they don't that saves me time and energy chasing shadows. Win either way. | |||
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" Just think it's a stronger move to accept, go off and better yourself. Why stronger? Surely an inability to accept that someone doesn't find you as attractive as you find them is a significant emotional weakness? As for 'better yourself' ?
How?
A Attraction is a funny thing sometimes.
Show them what they might have missed. Show them your value.
Friendzone is rejection ultimately.
Many would see it as the opposite of rejection but then again most people don't make friends with the ultimate aim of shagging them How is it though?
It is clearly rejection.
If I'm trying to meet a woman or couple of here, or girl off an app etc I'm wanting to have sex. I don't think that is a bad intention.
People who can't handle rejection worry me.
It's part of life. Accept it.
And we're not talking about on Fab are we. We're discussing the real world.
Not that there's any difference of course.
A How is walking away and ceasing communication not being able to handle rejection?
Wanting to still be friends when that wasn't your intention is not accepting to me.
Do you have any female friends in the outside world?
A Not that I'm attracted too. No.
I want all my options open. It's happened before by not accepting friendzone it might happen again.
If I accept it though, it is much more unlikely to happen.
You think that if you don't accept someone's friendship it will stop you meeting someone else?
I'm confused.
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If I accepted her friendship it would probably stop any chance I had of having sex with her.
Sometimes it's a test.
Oh god.
Her saying no isn't a test. She's a grown up who knows her mind.
And if there was any chance of her changing her mind then you cutting ties and blanking her the second you're 'rejected' is a sure fire way to get her to rethink, obviously.....
A I told you it's worked before.
Maybe all those attractive friends you had you could slept with some of them with a different approach. "Maybe you should start lessons and teach us all how to be suave, will the skill to turn one who isint attracted to us, to become attracted to us.....be like the fab Yoda.....Clunge knee deep you will be young jedi | |||
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How?
A Attraction is a funny thing sometimes.
Show them what they might have missed. Show them your value.
Friendzone is rejection ultimately.
Many would see it as the opposite of rejection but then again most people don't make friends with the ultimate aim of shagging them How is it though?
It is clearly rejection.
If I'm trying to meet a woman or couple of here, or girl off an app etc I'm wanting to have sex. I don't think that is a bad intention.
People who can't handle rejection worry me.
It's part of life. Accept it.
And we're not talking about on Fab are we. We're discussing the real world.
Not that there's any difference of course.
A How is walking away and ceasing communication not being able to handle rejection?
Wanting to still be friends when that wasn't your intention is not accepting to me.
Do you have any female friends in the outside world?
A Not that I'm attracted too. No.
I want all my options open. It's happened before by not accepting friendzone it might happen again.
If I accept it though, it is much more unlikely to happen.
You think that if you don't accept someone's friendship it will stop you meeting someone else?
I'm confused.
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If I accepted her friendship it would probably stop any chance I had of having sex with her.
Sometimes it's a test.
I had promised myself to step away from this but a test of what? That's the strongest move you can make in that situation.
They are testing what kind of man you are.
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How?
A Attraction is a funny thing sometimes.
Show them what they might have missed. Show them your value.
Friendzone is rejection ultimately.
Many would see it as the opposite of rejection but then again most people don't make friends with the ultimate aim of shagging them How is it though?
It is clearly rejection.
If I'm trying to meet a woman or couple of here, or girl off an app etc I'm wanting to have sex. I don't think that is a bad intention.
People who can't handle rejection worry me.
It's part of life. Accept it.
And we're not talking about on Fab are we. We're discussing the real world.
Not that there's any difference of course.
A How is walking away and ceasing communication not being able to handle rejection?
Wanting to still be friends when that wasn't your intention is not accepting to me.
Do you have any female friends in the outside world?
A Not that I'm attracted too. No.
I want all my options open. It's happened before by not accepting friendzone it might happen again.
If I accept it though, it is much more unlikely to happen.
You think that if you don't accept someone's friendship it will stop you meeting someone else?
I'm confused.
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If I accepted her friendship it would probably stop any chance I had of having sex with her.
Sometimes it's a test.
I had promised myself to step away from this but a test of what? That's the strongest move you can make in that situation.
They are testing what kind of man you are.
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" They'll be watching, guarantee it. No. They'll not give a shit about someone who cut them off the second they were turned down for sex. They'll have moved on to someone else, will be getting happily fucked by someone who sees them as a person who is a friend instead of a sex object and will be merrily making friends along the way. This thread has thrown up more red flags than your average Chinese military parade.
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How would you know, you've never done it before.
You accepted what you were given. "Obviously I'm some weak, emasculated, confidence lacking, simpleton, woke cuck who bows down to the will of women. Or just someone who repects someone's decision and accepts that we'll just be friends, you're for each other whenever needed. Even if she goes off and bangs the local football team. 
Because that's what men do. They don't play games with people emotions and see no value in a relationship where there's no sex. They accept friendship with open arms and don't ghost people whilst seeking their next potential fuck.
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How would you know, you've never done it before.
You accepted what you were given.
Obviously I'm some weak, emasculated, confidence lacking, simpleton, woke cuck who bows down to the will of women.
Or just someone who repects someone's decision and accepts that we'll just be friends, you're for each other whenever needed. Even if she goes off and bangs the local football team.
Because that's what men do. They don't play games with people emotions and see no value in a relationship where there's no sex. They accept friendship with open arms and don't ghost people whilst seeking their next potential fuck.
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How would you know, you've never done it before.
You accepted what you were given.
Obviously I'm some weak, emasculated, confidence lacking, simpleton, woke cuck who bows down to the will of women.
Or just someone who repects someone's decision and accepts that we'll just be friends, you're for each other whenever needed. Even if she goes off and bangs the local football team.
Because that's what men do. They don't play games with people emotions and see no value in a relationship where there's no sex. They accept friendship with open arms and don't ghost people whilst seeking their next potential fuck.
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How would you know, you've never done it before.
You accepted what you were given.
Obviously I'm some weak, emasculated, confidence lacking, simpleton, woke cuck who bows down to the will of women.
Or just someone who repects someone's decision and accepts that we'll just be friends, you're for each other whenever needed. Even if she goes off and bangs the local football team.
Because that's what men do. They don't play games with people emotions and see no value in a relationship where there's no sex. They accept friendship with open arms and don't ghost people whilst seeking their next potential fuck.
A It is a weak move to accept friend zone, you are correct. "It's not a weak move to accept a friend zone it's more than just that it's respecting the other their opinions and views that they are not a sexual object it's extremely concerning how you understand which isn't even humane | |||
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How would you know, you've never done it before.
You accepted what you were given.
Obviously I'm some weak, emasculated, confidence lacking, simpleton, woke cuck who bows down to the will of women.
Or just someone who repects someone's decision and accepts that we'll just be friends, you're for each other whenever needed. Even if she goes off and bangs the local football team.
Because that's what men do. They don't play games with people emotions and see no value in a relationship where there's no sex. They accept friendship with open arms and don't ghost people whilst seeking their next potential fuck.
A It is a weak move to accept friend zone, you are correct.
It's not a weak move to accept a friend zone it's more than just that it's respecting the other their opinions and views that they are not a sexual object it's extremely concerning how you understand which isn't even humane"Should be selling stuff that people don't want on here, everyone would be buying it apparently even if they weren't happy with it. If they are such a great person too. You are going to want more. It's like natural to many. | |||
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How would you know, you've never done it before.
You accepted what you were given.
Obviously I'm some weak, emasculated, confidence lacking, simpleton, woke cuck who bows down to the will of women.
Or just someone who repects someone's decision and accepts that we'll just be friends, you're for each other whenever needed. Even if she goes off and bangs the local football team.
Because that's what men do. They don't play games with people emotions and see no value in a relationship where there's no sex. They accept friendship with open arms and don't ghost people whilst seeking their next potential fuck.
A It is a weak move to accept friend zone, you are correct.
It's not a weak move to accept a friend zone it's more than just that it's respecting the other their opinions and views that they are not a sexual object it's extremely concerning how you understand which isn't even humane Should be selling stuff that people don't want on here, everyone would be buying it apparently even if they weren't happy with it.
If they are such a great person too. You are going to want more. It's like natural to many. "It's called a world of normality treating people with respect understanding others appreciating them being their at their time of need or just someone to enjoy their company and laugh without any suggestions for sex you're able to discuss things at length sexually and nothing comes from it as you respect your friendship like it's part of your limbs | |||
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How would you know, you've never done it before.
You accepted what you were given.
Obviously I'm some weak, emasculated, confidence lacking, simpleton, woke cuck who bows down to the will of women.
Or just someone who repects someone's decision and accepts that we'll just be friends, you're for each other whenever needed. Even if she goes off and bangs the local football team.
Because that's what men do. They don't play games with people emotions and see no value in a relationship where there's no sex. They accept friendship with open arms and don't ghost people whilst seeking their next potential fuck.
A It is a weak move to accept friend zone, you are correct.
It's not a weak move to accept a friend zone it's more than just that it's respecting the other their opinions and views that they are not a sexual object it's extremely concerning how you understand which isn't even humane Should be selling stuff that people don't want on here, everyone would be buying it apparently even if they weren't happy with it.
If they are such a great person too. You are going to want more. It's like natural to many.
It's called a world of normality treating people with respect understanding others appreciating them being their at their time of need or just someone to enjoy their company and laugh without any suggestions for sex you're able to discuss things at length sexually and nothing comes from it as you respect your friendship like it's part of your limbs "Yeah I just respectfully decline the friendship offer. It's not being rude or aggressive, they were not the intentions I set out with when I met them. | |||
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How would you know, you've never done it before.
You accepted what you were given.
Obviously I'm some weak, emasculated, confidence lacking, simpleton, woke cuck who bows down to the will of women.
Or just someone who repects someone's decision and accepts that we'll just be friends, you're for each other whenever needed. Even if she goes off and bangs the local football team.
Because that's what men do. They don't play games with people emotions and see no value in a relationship where there's no sex. They accept friendship with open arms and don't ghost people whilst seeking their next potential fuck.
A It is a weak move to accept friend zone, you are correct.
It's not a weak move to accept a friend zone it's more than just that it's respecting the other their opinions and views that they are not a sexual object it's extremely concerning how you understand which isn't even humane Should be selling stuff that people don't want on here, everyone would be buying it apparently even if they weren't happy with it.
If they are such a great person too. You are going to want more. It's like natural to many.
It's called a world of normality treating people with respect understanding others appreciating them being their at their time of need or just someone to enjoy their company and laugh without any suggestions for sex you're able to discuss things at length sexually and nothing comes from it as you respect your friendship like it's part of your limbs Yeah I just respectfully decline the friendship offer.
It's not being rude or aggressive, they were not the intentions I set out with when I met them.
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How would you know, you've never done it before.
You accepted what you were given.
Obviously I'm some weak, emasculated, confidence lacking, simpleton, woke cuck who bows down to the will of women.
Or just someone who repects someone's decision and accepts that we'll just be friends, you're for each other whenever needed. Even if she goes off and bangs the local football team.
Because that's what men do. They don't play games with people emotions and see no value in a relationship where there's no sex. They accept friendship with open arms and don't ghost people whilst seeking their next potential fuck.
A It is a weak move to accept friend zone, you are correct.
It's not a weak move to accept a friend zone it's more than just that it's respecting the other their opinions and views that they are not a sexual object it's extremely concerning how you understand which isn't even humane Should be selling stuff that people don't want on here, everyone would be buying it apparently even if they weren't happy with it.
If they are such a great person too. You are going to want more. It's like natural to many.
It's called a world of normality treating people with respect understanding others appreciating them being their at their time of need or just someone to enjoy their company and laugh without any suggestions for sex you're able to discuss things at length sexually and nothing comes from it as you respect your friendship like it's part of your limbs Yeah I just respectfully decline the friendship offer.
It's not being rude or aggressive, they were not the intentions I set out with when I met them.
Being self conscious
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How?
A Attraction is a funny thing sometimes.
Show them what they might have missed. Show them your value.
Friendzone is rejection ultimately.
Many would see it as the opposite of rejection but then again most people don't make friends with the ultimate aim of shagging them How is it though?
It is clearly rejection.
If I'm trying to meet a woman or couple of here, or girl off an app etc I'm wanting to have sex. I don't think that is a bad intention.
People who can't handle rejection worry me.
It's part of life. Accept it.
And we're not talking about on Fab are we. We're discussing the real world.
Not that there's any difference of course.
A How is walking away and ceasing communication not being able to handle rejection?
Wanting to still be friends when that wasn't your intention is not accepting to me.
Do you have any female friends in the outside world?
A Not that I'm attracted too. No.
I want all my options open. It's happened before by not accepting friendzone it might happen again.
If I accept it though, it is much more unlikely to happen.
Are you saying that if you're friends with a woman you're attracted to, she's less likely to fuck you, and you want to maximise the likelihood you'll get laid?"He just wants to rail women and holds no value in a woman outside of physical function is the crux of the point If a woman won’t fuck then he has no value in knowing more about them. I think his point is miswrote in that what he means is this. If you meet a woman and they reject amourous advances but will like to be friends he wants to bin them. Not what if an existing friend he wants to penetrate declines the offer , as by previous posts he won’t have any female friends to start with. | |||
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"Maybe all us ladies should do a test. Wait until this evening and send a text to all our platonic male friends, telling them that we are horny and would be up for a hook up. I’d be interested to see the the results. Come on ladies, who’s game? That isn't exactly the same thing though is it. If my female friend offered to hook up with me, I wouldn't turn it down as I'd see it as a bonus to our friendship. If you really want to do this experiment, it should be having ladies message their FBs and say that they won't fuck them anymore but will still stay friends with them. And then see how many of the guys still stay around and how many cut ties. Then you'd know who only saw the women they were banging as disposable hookups only of value for sex, and who saw them as actual friends/individuals. " Hear what your saying, but I think it would show both sides of your theory. Those who have fb relationships are a sex based relationship to start with anyway. It could potentially show up those who claim that they wouldn’t let sex get in the way of friendships. | |||
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"I'm actually shocked that some see very little value to another human unless they were getting something out of it The small question that drives all success. what's in it for me?" Maybe sex isn't the motivation for all men who seek to have female friends?
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Is this the feeling of both bulls? Or will we be seeing separate profiles for Bull 1 and Bull 2.
But to answer your question. Yes men and women can be friends. Yes they can remain friends even if there are unrequited feelings. From reading your comments it seems you put very little value on friendship and far more on emptying your balls so good luck with that.
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"Maybe all us ladies should do a test. Wait until this evening and send a text to all our platonic male friends, telling them that we are horny and would be up for a hook up. I’d be interested to see the the results. Come on ladies, who’s game? " Why would anyone do that to someone they consider to be a friend. Even if it was a 'test' I know I'd be pretty pissed off if a friend decided to test me that way. I don't need to test my friends to know it's just a friendship and nothing else. And I definitely wouldn't change ruining a friendship just to prove a point to someone who just because they don't believe it is possible. | |||
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"Can men and women just be friends if 1 finds the other attractive? On fab or the real world. My opinion no, the sex part always gets in the way. " Yes. I have several very attractive lady friends, we have been friends for years and that will not change. Cal | |||
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"Maybe all us ladies should do a test. Wait until this evening and send a text to all our platonic male friends, telling them that we are horny and would be up for a hook up. I’d be interested to see the the results. Come on ladies, who’s game? Why would anyone do that to someone they consider to be a friend. Even if it was a 'test' I know I'd be pretty pissed off if a friend decided to test me that way. I don't need to test my friends to know it's just a friendship and nothing else. And I definitely wouldn't change ruining a friendship just to prove a point to someone who just because they don't believe it is possible. " It’s all in the name of science…. | |||
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"Maybe all us ladies should do a test. Wait until this evening and send a text to all our platonic male friends, telling them that we are horny and would be up for a hook up. I’d be interested to see the the results. Come on ladies, who’s game? Why would anyone do that to someone they consider to be a friend. Even if it was a 'test' I know I'd be pretty pissed off if a friend decided to test me that way. I don't need to test my friends to know it's just a friendship and nothing else. And I definitely wouldn't change ruining a friendship just to prove a point to someone who just because they don't believe it is possible. " To some people relationships between men and women are a constant testing of each other and a questioning of each others motives. | |||
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"Maybe all us ladies should do a test. Wait until this evening and send a text to all our platonic male friends, telling them that we are horny and would be up for a hook up. I’d be interested to see the the results. Come on ladies, who’s game? Why would anyone do that to someone they consider to be a friend. Even if it was a 'test' I know I'd be pretty pissed off if a friend decided to test me that way. I don't need to test my friends to know it's just a friendship and nothing else. And I definitely wouldn't change ruining a friendship just to prove a point to someone who just because they don't believe it is possible. To some people relationships between men and women are a constant testing of each other and a questioning of each others motives. " I find it all very, very sad. | |||
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"Maybe all us ladies should do a test. Wait until this evening and send a text to all our platonic male friends, telling them that we are horny and would be up for a hook up. I’d be interested to see the the results. Come on ladies, who’s game? Why would anyone do that to someone they consider to be a friend. Even if it was a 'test' I know I'd be pretty pissed off if a friend decided to test me that way. I don't need to test my friends to know it's just a friendship and nothing else. And I definitely wouldn't change ruining a friendship just to prove a point to someone who just because they don't believe it is possible. To some people relationships between men and women are a constant testing of each other and a questioning of each others motives. I find it all very, very sad." I wonder where it all went wrong. What's lead us to this place | |||
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"Maybe all us ladies should do a test. Wait until this evening and send a text to all our platonic male friends, telling them that we are horny and would be up for a hook up. I’d be interested to see the the results. Come on ladies, who’s game? Why would anyone do that to someone they consider to be a friend. Even if it was a 'test' I know I'd be pretty pissed off if a friend decided to test me that way. I don't need to test my friends to know it's just a friendship and nothing else. And I definitely wouldn't change ruining a friendship just to prove a point to someone who just because they don't believe it is possible. To some people relationships between men and women are a constant testing of each other and a questioning of each others motives. I find it all very, very sad. I wonder where it all went wrong. What's lead us to this place" Tinder and hookup culture I'd say. | |||
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"I'm actually shocked that some see very little value to another human unless they were getting something out of it Really ? "Very much As it's part of life to be able to explore things that don't revolve around certain things that would within a relationship IE sex their is more to a human on face value | |||
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"Maybe all us ladies should do a test. Wait until this evening and send a text to all our platonic male friends, telling them that we are horny and would be up for a hook up. I’d be interested to see the the results. Come on ladies, who’s game? Why would anyone do that to someone they consider to be a friend. Even if it was a 'test' I know I'd be pretty pissed off if a friend decided to test me that way. I don't need to test my friends to know it's just a friendship and nothing else. And I definitely wouldn't change ruining a friendship just to prove a point to someone who just because they don't believe it is possible. To some people relationships between men and women are a constant testing of each other and a questioning of each others motives. I find it all very, very sad. I wonder where it all went wrong. What's lead us to this place Tinder and hookup culture I'd say. " I know nothing of Tinder fortunately. Is there a deeper problem where men especially young men are feeling their traditional place in the world is being challenged and some with influence hsve chosen to present that as a rejection of them by women? I don't know but the rise in viewing relationships in terms of the value you represent to each other on sexual terms by young men concerns me | |||
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"Maybe all us ladies should do a test. Wait until this evening and send a text to all our platonic male friends, telling them that we are horny and would be up for a hook up. I’d be interested to see the the results. Come on ladies, who’s game? Why would anyone do that to someone they consider to be a friend. Even if it was a 'test' I know I'd be pretty pissed off if a friend decided to test me that way. I don't need to test my friends to know it's just a friendship and nothing else. And I definitely wouldn't change ruining a friendship just to prove a point to someone who just because they don't believe it is possible. To some people relationships between men and women are a constant testing of each other and a questioning of each others motives. I find it all very, very sad. I wonder where it all went wrong. What's lead us to this place Tinder and hookup culture I'd say. " Oh I look back to all the songs I used to listen to that basically say that a man who's persistent even when a woman says no, all the stuff about playing hard to get and how to know what people really mean, and I just want to go back and time and slap everyone. "Use your words, people. Say what you mean and believe what others say and do" | |||
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"Maybe all us ladies should do a test. Wait until this evening and send a text to all our platonic male friends, telling them that we are horny and would be up for a hook up. I’d be interested to see the the results. Come on ladies, who’s game? Why would anyone do that to someone they consider to be a friend. Even if it was a 'test' I know I'd be pretty pissed off if a friend decided to test me that way. I don't need to test my friends to know it's just a friendship and nothing else. And I definitely wouldn't change ruining a friendship just to prove a point to someone who just because they don't believe it is possible. To some people relationships between men and women are a constant testing of each other and a questioning of each others motives. I find it all very, very sad. I wonder where it all went wrong. What's lead us to this place Tinder and hookup culture I'd say. I know nothing of Tinder fortunately. Is there a deeper problem where men especially young men are feeling their traditional place in the world is being challenged and some with influence hsve chosen to present that as a rejection of them by women? I don't know but the rise in viewing relationships in terms of the value you represent to each other on sexual terms by young men concerns me" Yes, this is very much a subset of incel culture, game theory, etc. You have to manipulate sexual partners to get what you want, and if you can't get what you want, it's because the system has wronged you. When I was young I was told to lose weight and use more makeup - that was fucked up, but it seems healthy by comparison. | |||
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"I'm actually shocked that some see very little value to another human unless they were getting something out of it Really ?
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As it's part of life to be able to explore things that don't revolve around certain things that would within a relationship IE sex their is more to a human on face value "To you maybe, but not to others. I think it's really good to be self-ish sometimes and make your needs & wants the only priority. It's survival | |||
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"I'm actually shocked that some see very little value to another human unless they were getting something out of it Really ?
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As it's part of life to be able to explore things that don't revolve around certain things that would within a relationship IE sex their is more to a human on face value
To you maybe, but not to others. I think it's really good to be
self-ish sometimes and make your needs & wants the only priority. It's survival"I think most people need and want human connection beyond banging genitals together, but maybe I'm weird and it's just me. | |||
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"Maybe all us ladies should do a test. Wait until this evening and send a text to all our platonic male friends, telling them that we are horny and would be up for a hook up. I’d be interested to see the the results. Come on ladies, who’s game? Why would anyone do that to someone they consider to be a friend. Even if it was a 'test' I know I'd be pretty pissed off if a friend decided to test me that way. I don't need to test my friends to know it's just a friendship and nothing else. And I definitely wouldn't change ruining a friendship just to prove a point to someone who just because they don't believe it is possible. To some people relationships between men and women are a constant testing of each other and a questioning of each others motives. I find it all very, very sad. I wonder where it all went wrong. What's lead us to this place Tinder and hookup culture I'd say. Oh I look back to all the songs I used to listen to that basically say that a man who's persistent even when a woman says no, all the stuff about playing hard to get and how to know what people really mean, and I just want to go back and time and slap everyone. "Use your words, people. Say what you mean and believe what others say and do"" Even now though you see people asking what their partner means or asking stranger to interpret their partners actions. We've fucked up big time I think | |||
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