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" your profile is the reason why " I haven't bothered making an effort because it seems to be a bit pointless. I had a profile before when I used dab a long time ago and it wasn't much better than what I have now. | |||
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" your profile is the reason why " To be fair, there is literally no info on your profile for anyone to decide whether to meet you. It's your shop window, and there's nothing in it! | |||
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" your profile is the reason why " Yours is not much better tbh | |||
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" your profile is the reason why To be fair, there is literally no info on your profile for anyone to decide whether to meet you. It's your shop window, and there's nothing in it!" But I have a vagina. So I got plenty of offers | |||
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"Can single men be successful on here without going to organised social events or swinging clubs. I feel if you are not in some sort of clique or if you haven't got a bbc it's pretty much a waste of time ." Yes they can with good pics and a good bio. Mrs | |||
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" your profile is the reason why Yours is not much better tbh " I know | |||
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" your profile is the reason why I haven't bothered making an effort because it seems to be a bit pointless. I had a profile before when I used dab a long time ago and it wasn't much better than what I have now." If you can't make the effort with your profile why should anyone make the effort to reply to you? It comes across as lazy and I wouldn't want a lazy meet. Mrs | |||
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"Can single men be successful on here without going to organised social events or swinging clubs. I feel if you are not in some sort of clique or if you haven't got a bbc it's pretty much a waste of time ." Get out of fab what you put in . To many guys on here think it’s going to be easy like just send a message and a cock pic . Yes it’s a swingers site but yes single guys still need to put some effort in | |||
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" your profile is the reason why Yours is not much better tbh " I think she want want fabbers to like her personality before sending vag pics | |||
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"Can single men be successful on here without going to organised social events or swinging clubs. I feel if you are not in some sort of clique or if you haven't got a bbc it's pretty much a waste of time ." Those that have charm | |||
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"...happy to talk to women as people rather than single use fleshlights... " Perfection. Meli nails it in just 12 words. J | |||
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"...happy to talk to women as people rather than single use fleshlights... Perfection. Meli nails it in just 12 words. J" She invariably does | |||
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"Yes, they can. Yes, it's difficult. It's difficult for everyone for different reasons." Takes time and patience and yes luck but more politeness don't come on expected a meet | |||
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"If you haven't got the personality and charisma to sell yourself well it's going to be a struggle here. There's plenty that do alright, but many many more who don't." This is a huge factor and not having endless cock pics | |||
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" your profile is the reason why I haven't bothered making an effort because it seems to be a bit pointless. I had a profile before when I used dab a long time ago and it wasn't much better than what I have now." To be honest (and quite harsh). After reading that. If you messaged me I would decline. If you can’t be *bothered* to write a decent profile & take some decent pictures, why would I assume you’d make any effort with your appearance, hygiene or bedroom skills. I’m sorry lack of effort is a massive turn off. | |||
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" your profile is the reason why Yours is not much better tbh " But she's a woman, l see your point but a woman here doesn't have to make the same effort in anything that a single guy has to, wether they know it or not Women do rule the jungle here. | |||
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" your profile is the reason why To be fair, there is literally no info on your profile for anyone to decide whether to meet you. It's your shop window, and there's nothing in it! But I have a vagina. So I got plenty of offers " Miscommunication... supposed to be directed at the OP. My bad! | |||
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"No. Single men are just a cash cow for clubs, and there to boost the egos of the women! " There ya have it ...in a nutshell...the truth..the whole truth and nothing but the truth ..a cash cow and to boost ego's... simple really..great point made | |||
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" your profile is the reason why To be fair, there is literally no info on your profile for anyone to decide whether to meet you. It's your shop window, and there's nothing in it! But I have a vagina. So I got plenty of offers " This is OP's point. Vagina owners don't have to do anything and offers come flooding in | |||
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" your profile is the reason why To be fair, there is literally no info on your profile for anyone to decide whether to meet you. It's your shop window, and there's nothing in it! But I have a vagina. So I got plenty of offers This is OP's point. Vagina owners don't have to do anything and offers come flooding in" that's on us men tho. | |||
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" your profile is the reason why Yours is not much better tbh " Miow... | |||
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"Can single men be successful on here without going to organised social events or swinging clubs. I feel if you are not in some sort of clique or if you haven't got a bbc it's pretty much a waste of time ." R E S P E C T goes a long way , not only here but in the real World too,am not saying people don't have it but it should be in their armoury. | |||
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"Many, many single men do yes just looking at my updates and speaking to friends. I think being on the forum is a death knell for a man. Soz " You think ?...a death knell ? | |||
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" your profile is the reason why Yours is not much better tbh I think she want want fabbers to like her personality before sending vag pics " | |||
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"Can single men be successful on here without going to organised social events or swinging clubs. I feel if you are not in some sort of clique or if you haven't got a bbc it's pretty much a waste of time ." Absolutely, OP. They can and I have. Success is a subjective concept but I have met some really great people in and out of the forum. I have never been to a social (but I will) and, whilst I’ve been to clubs, I had enjoyed slidy pump pump fun sexytime with those people before also playing in a club. One’s chap is a nice shade of brown but it’s far from big or black. It is definitely a cock, though. I have put up some varied pictures, written a bio about me, what I like and what I’m looking for, and I play the game. Obviously it’s more swing-and-a-miss than hits, but occasionally I’ve connected with someone fun. As with anything in life, effort = reward. | |||
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"Can single men be successful on here without going to organised social events or swinging clubs. I feel if you are not in some sort of clique or if you haven't got a bbc it's pretty much a waste of time . Absolutely, OP. They can and I have. Success is a subjective concept but I have met some really great people in and out of the forum. I have never been to a social (but I will) and, whilst I’ve been to clubs, I had enjoyed slidy pump pump fun sexytime with those people before also playing in a club. One’s chap is a nice shade of brown but it’s far from big or black. It is definitely a cock, though. I have put up some varied pictures, written a bio about me, what I like and what I’m looking for, and I play the game. Obviously it’s more swing-and-a-miss than hits, but occasionally I’ve connected with someone fun. As with anything in life, effort = reward." While I mostly agree, all the effort in the world means nothing if they are not attracted to you, and depending upon our own preferences also the chance of success is rather small in the grand scheme of things. A man's success is largely still dictated by women (on here), that's not to say we can't guide ourselves towards success. Some men effort or not will simply have more success than others, or at the very least more opportunity for it. That is when it comes down to as you say success being subjective and how much stock we place in what it means to be successful. | |||
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"Define success " Having the chance to meet who I want to actually meet | |||
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"In general, no, but you need to get known. The forum is not a kiss of death, if you do it right, and some of my friends have come off the back of convos on it " Agree with this and I have found the same. The little horizontal green arrow can be quite enlightening... | |||
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"Definitely, contrary to what a lot of guys say about this site it isn’t difficult you just have to make an effort and send proper messages, same as on any site. The numbers of men is irrelevant if you are who someone wants to know and meet " Exactly this | |||
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" your profile is the reason why I haven't bothered making an effort because it seems to be a bit pointless. I had a profile before when I used dab a long time ago and it wasn't much better than what I have now. If you can't make the effort with your profile why should anyone make the effort to reply to you? It comes across as lazy and I wouldn't want a lazy meet. Mrs " I haven't messaged anyone for a meet since I've been back on here. If I wanted to do that, I would make more of an effort. | |||
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" your profile is the reason why Yours is not much better tbh I know " Love the photo of the Derbyshire countryside on your profile | |||
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"So what you are saying is you made not much effort last time and none now. OK " No the first time I used this I made effort and I met two women. The first one I didn't fancy her after we had met, she didn't look anything like her pictures.. and the second one I did fancy but she just wanted money from me. I haven't really bothered since. | |||
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" your profile is the reason why To be fair, there is literally no info on your profile for anyone to decide whether to meet you. It's your shop window, and there's nothing in it! But I have a vagina. So I got plenty of offers " No personality by the sounds of it | |||
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" your profile is the reason why Yours is not much better tbh I know Love the photo of the Derbyshire countryside on your profile " Stock photo off the internet mate | |||
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"Your attitude is poor and your profile says nothing about you Woe is me attitude wont get you anywhere why should women meet you " Woe is me attitude ? Can you define this please | |||
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" your profile is the reason why To be fair, there is literally no info on your profile for anyone to decide whether to meet you. It's your shop window, and there's nothing in it! But I have a vagina. So I got plenty of offers No personality by the sounds of it " This isn’t facebook dating brav | |||
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"No. Single men are just a cash cow for clubs, and there to boost the egos of the women! " | |||
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" your profile is the reason why I haven't bothered making an effort because it seems to be a bit pointless. I had a profile before when I used dab a long time ago and it wasn't much better than what I have now." You get out what you put in. If your profile isn't interesting, it's an instant no. | |||
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"Your attitude is poor and your profile says nothing about you Woe is me attitude wont get you anywhere why should women meet you Woe is me attitude ? Can you define this please " Your bio is literally 1 line and seems like a half arsed line as well | |||
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" your profile is the reason why Yours is not much better tbh But she's a woman, l see your point but a woman here doesn't have to make the same effort in anything that a single guy has to, wether they know it or not Women do rule the jungle here." But it doesn't matter if she's a woman or not, if you actually read the text | |||
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"Definitely, contrary to what a lot of guys say about this site it isn’t difficult you just have to make an effort and send proper messages, same as on any site. The numbers of men is irrelevant if you are who someone wants to know and meet " Sure it wouldn't be so difficult if I had the attitude of a any holes a goal kind of man. Not saying you are. | |||
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"No. Single men are just a cash cow for clubs, and there to boost the egos of the women! " Didn't think I would see a woman giving that the thumbs up | |||
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"Definitely, contrary to what a lot of guys say about this site it isn’t difficult you just have to make an effort and send proper messages, same as on any site. The numbers of men is irrelevant if you are who someone wants to know and meet Sure it wouldn't be so difficult if I had the attitude of a any holes a goal kind of man. Not saying you are. " I don’t have the thought that any hole is a goal but I’m still quite successful all it takes is some patience and actually write something on your bio and take some pictures | |||
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"Your attitude is poor and your profile says nothing about you Woe is me attitude wont get you anywhere why should women meet you Woe is me attitude ? Can you define this please Your bio is literally 1 line and seems like a half arsed line as well" I know my profile is never going to be any good the way it is. This forum was not about profile advice though. | |||
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"Can single men be successful on here without going to organised social events or swinging clubs. I feel if you are not in some sort of clique or if you haven't got a bbc it's pretty much a waste of time ." I don't have a BBC and not in a clique but I do ok, I do have a awesome profile though | |||
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"Your attitude is poor and your profile says nothing about you Woe is me attitude wont get you anywhere why should women meet you Woe is me attitude ? Can you define this please Your bio is literally 1 line and seems like a half arsed line as well I know my profile is never going to be any good the way it is. This forum was not about profile advice though." I think it’s like general advice which speaks to other profiles as well | |||
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" your profile is the reason why I haven't bothered making an effort because it seems to be a bit pointless. I had a profile before when I used dab a long time ago and it wasn't much better than what I have now." No profile means people will just pass you by, so you're basically sabotaging yourself. No effort = no reward | |||
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"Definitely, contrary to what a lot of guys say about this site it isn’t difficult you just have to make an effort and send proper messages, same as on any site. The numbers of men is irrelevant if you are who someone wants to know and meet Sure it wouldn't be so difficult if I had the attitude of a any holes a goal kind of man. Not saying you are. " Not at all, if you’re a bottom feeder on here you might even find it much harder here than if you have high standards because you’re just one of the Horde and that’s when numbers are against you | |||
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" your profile is the reason why Yours is not much better tbh But she's a woman, l see your point but a woman here doesn't have to make the same effort in anything that a single guy has to, wether they know it or not Women do rule the jungle here. But it doesn't matter if she's a woman or not, if you actually read the text" I have to disagree here. It do! matter if you are a women. Women will still get messages and offers if they have no pics or profile text. It's just the way it is. | |||
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"Can single men be successful on here without going to organised social events or swinging clubs. I feel if you are not in some sort of clique or if you haven't got a bbc it's pretty much a waste of time ." Agreed i go to clubs but i imagine socials could be good if you know somebody that goes especially a woman as for messaging here I'm quite successful but imagine most guys, especially the ones that think with their dicks will struggle, hope this gives you more insight | |||
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"Your attitude is poor and your profile says nothing about you Woe is me attitude wont get you anywhere why should women meet you Woe is me attitude ? Can you define this please Your bio is literally 1 line and seems like a half arsed line as well I know my profile is never going to be any good the way it is. This forum was not about profile advice though." Ok. In which case to answer your question. Yes single men can be very successful. Usually the ones who make an effort with their profile & don’t proclaim on a forum just how much they can’t be bothered… For instance | |||
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"What are you looking for OP? " Nothing at the moment because I have no time for anything, with work I'm always on the move. If I was looking I'd be looking for a woman like all you guys. | |||
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"Your attitude is poor and your profile says nothing about you Woe is me attitude wont get you anywhere why should women meet you Woe is me attitude ? Can you define this please Your bio is literally 1 line and seems like a half arsed line as well I know my profile is never going to be any good the way it is. This forum was not about profile advice though. Ok. In which case to answer your question. Yes single men can be very successful. Usually the ones who make an effort with their profile & don’t proclaim on a forum just how much they can’t be bothered… For instance " I can’t be assed half the time ….. oh, I see what you mean. | |||
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"Can single men be successful on here without going to organised social events or swinging clubs. I feel if you are not in some sort of clique or if you haven't got a bbc it's pretty much a waste of time . I don't have a BBC and not in a clique but I do ok, I do have a awesome profile though " And I see you have also been to socials | |||
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"What are you looking for OP? Nothing at the moment because I have no time for anything, with work I'm always on the move. If I was looking I'd be looking for a woman like all you guys." My advice would be really figure out exactly what it is you really want from fab , because your last sentence sums it up you don't know. If it’s ‘just a woman like all you guys’ your in the Horde, unfortunately it ain’t gonna be much fun. Once you really know what you want you will be able to write a good profile and meet people regularly - no matter how much you travel | |||
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"Definitely, contrary to what a lot of guys say about this site it isn’t difficult you just have to make an effort and send proper messages, same as on any site. The numbers of men is irrelevant if you are who someone wants to know and meet Sure it wouldn't be so difficult if I had the attitude of a any holes a goal kind of man. Not saying you are. " Actually it would be more difficult, because that's not what most women are looking for. | |||
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"What are you looking for OP? Nothing at the moment because I have no time for anything, with work I'm always on the move. If I was looking I'd be looking for a woman like all you guys." that sounds very unspecific. I'd imagine that gets in the way more than increases yr chances. (when you are looking) | |||
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"Can single men be successful on here without going to organised social events or swinging clubs. I feel if you are not in some sort of clique or if you haven't got a bbc it's pretty much a waste of time . I don't have a BBC and not in a clique but I do ok, I do have a awesome profile though And I see you have also been to socials " Yes but I met people long before that, my first meet was a MF couple after a couple of months | |||
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"Your attitude is poor and your profile says nothing about you Woe is me attitude wont get you anywhere why should women meet you Woe is me attitude ? Can you define this please Your bio is literally 1 line and seems like a half arsed line as well I know my profile is never going to be any good the way it is. This forum was not about profile advice though. I think it’s like general advice which speaks to other profiles as well" Yes gotcha | |||
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"Definitely, contrary to what a lot of guys say about this site it isn’t difficult you just have to make an effort and send proper messages, same as on any site. The numbers of men is irrelevant if you are who someone wants to know and meet Sure it wouldn't be so difficult if I had the attitude of a any holes a goal kind of man. Not saying you are. Not at all, if you’re a bottom feeder on here you might even find it much harder here than if you have high standards because you’re just one of the Horde and that’s when numbers are against you " Am I a bottom feeder because of my profile ? | |||
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"Yes. But it requires more effort than a cock pic and a request to meet immediately." I haven’t been blocked after sending a dick pic yet. Face pic however | |||
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" your profile is the reason why Yours is not much better tbh But she's a woman, l see your point but a woman here doesn't have to make the same effort in anything that a single guy has to, wether they know it or not Women do rule the jungle here. But it doesn't matter if she's a woman or not, if you actually read the text I have to disagree here. It do! matter if you are a women. Women will still get messages and offers if they have no pics or profile text. It's just the way it is." That isn't what I meant... I meant what she has on her profile says don't bother, I will find you... Therefore doesn't matter thatbit is as soarse as yours... Yours just says you can't be bothered | |||
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"What are you looking for OP? Nothing at the moment because I have no time for anything, with work I'm always on the move. If I was looking I'd be looking for a woman like all you guys. My advice would be really figure out exactly what it is you really want from fab , because your last sentence sums it up you don't know. If it’s ‘just a woman like all you guys’ your in the Horde, unfortunately it ain’t gonna be much fun. Once you really know what you want you will be able to write a good profile and meet people regularly - no matter how much you travel " | |||
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"Definitely, contrary to what a lot of guys say about this site it isn’t difficult you just have to make an effort and send proper messages, same as on any site. The numbers of men is irrelevant if you are who someone wants to know and meet Sure it wouldn't be so difficult if I had the attitude of a any holes a goal kind of man. Not saying you are. Not at all, if you’re a bottom feeder on here you might even find it much harder here than if you have high standards because you’re just one of the Horde and that’s when numbers are against you Am I a bottom feeder because of my profile ? " Tbh, yes. Just one in a thousand other guys who just scream zero effort. | |||
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" your profile is the reason why Yours is not much better tbh But she's a woman, l see your point but a woman here doesn't have to make the same effort in anything that a single guy has to, wether they know it or not Women do rule the jungle here. But it doesn't matter if she's a woman or not, if you actually read the text I have to disagree here. It do! matter if you are a women. Women will still get messages and offers if they have no pics or profile text. It's just the way it is. That isn't what I meant... I meant what she has on her profile says don't bother, I will find you... Therefore doesn't matter thatbit is as soarse as yours... Yours just says you can't be bothered " Sorry... It doesn't matter if it's as sparse as yours... A man could put that and it be ok too | |||
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"Definitely, contrary to what a lot of guys say about this site it isn’t difficult you just have to make an effort and send proper messages, same as on any site. The numbers of men is irrelevant if you are who someone wants to know and meet Sure it wouldn't be so difficult if I had the attitude of a any holes a goal kind of man. Not saying you are. Not at all, if you’re a bottom feeder on here you might even find it much harder here than if you have high standards because you’re just one of the Horde and that’s when numbers are against you Am I a bottom feeder because of my profile ? " No photos and no bio, what do you think? | |||
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"What are you looking for OP? Nothing at the moment because I have no time for anything, with work I'm always on the move. If I was looking I'd be looking for a woman like all you guys.that sounds very unspecific. I'd imagine that gets in the way more than increases yr chances. (when you are looking) " How else could I answer a question like that in the forums. It boils down to that.. it is what it is. | |||
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"Can single men be successful on here without going to organised social events or swinging clubs. I feel if you are not in some sort of clique or if you haven't got a bbc it's pretty much a waste of time . Absolutely, OP. They can and I have. Success is a subjective concept but I have met some really great people in and out of the forum. I have never been to a social (but I will) and, whilst I’ve been to clubs, I had enjoyed slidy pump pump fun sexytime with those people before also playing in a club. One’s chap is a nice shade of brown but it’s far from big or black. It is definitely a cock, though. I have put up some varied pictures, written a bio about me, what I like and what I’m looking for, and I play the game. Obviously it’s more swing-and-a-miss than hits, but occasionally I’ve connected with someone fun. As with anything in life, effort = reward. While I mostly agree, all the effort in the world means nothing if they are not attracted to you, and depending upon our own preferences also the chance of success is rather small in the grand scheme of things. A man's success is largely still dictated by women (on here), that's not to say we can't guide ourselves towards success. Some men effort or not will simply have more success than others, or at the very least more opportunity for it. That is when it comes down to as you say success being subjective and how much stock we place in what it means to be successful. " Absolutely agree with this, my friend. I couldn’t possibly say that I was successful 100% of the time, because there are people I have wanted to meet that haven’t wanted to meet me. But then I write that off not as a lack of success, but as a product of life. I’d like to play mummies and daddies with Rachel Riley but, if I asked her, she’d say no (leaving aside her blissfully happy marriage and two kids). That’s not a lack of success, it’s just personal preference. I get to play mummies and daddies with enough great people to satisfy my appetite and I regard that as success. | |||
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"Definitely, contrary to what a lot of guys say about this site it isn’t difficult you just have to make an effort and send proper messages, same as on any site. The numbers of men is irrelevant if you are who someone wants to know and meet " Not sure I wholly agree with this, while it is down to whether they want to meet you, it is possible to create the perfectly constructed message and it can still go unread if it's buried among the many "Faf" messages. It's a big reason why I've pretty much stopped sending the first message as it started to feel like a fool's errand | |||
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"Tbf if you sent an amazing first msg and some great pics, then your profile wouldn't really matter." If we only send messages to people that are attracted to us then our profiles can possibly put them off | |||
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"I find this sites great for the forums, for meets and stuff though definitely been more successful on other sites." Same. I find women will engage in conversation more on other apps. The forums brought me back to this. | |||
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"Your attitude is poor and your profile says nothing about you Woe is me attitude wont get you anywhere why should women meet you Woe is me attitude ? Can you define this please Your bio is literally 1 line and seems like a half arsed line as well I know my profile is never going to be any good the way it is. This forum was not about profile advice though." OP, you’re absolutely right - it wasn’t a thread asking for profile advice. BUT - You asked whether we think men can be successful on fab without going to socials or clubs, without being in a clique or having a monster member. The answer is yes, absolutely they can. But it largely comes down to a good profile and gold messages. We can’t see what messages you’ve sent so attention was naturally drawn toward your profile, such as it is. Posing questions like this will draw attention to you and you should be prepared for that, especially if you’re bemoaning success of other men on characteristics and behaviour to which you’re not prepared to commit. | |||
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"Definitely, contrary to what a lot of guys say about this site it isn’t difficult you just have to make an effort and send proper messages, same as on any site. The numbers of men is irrelevant if you are who someone wants to know and meet Sure it wouldn't be so difficult if I had the attitude of a any holes a goal kind of man. Not saying you are. Not at all, if you’re a bottom feeder on here you might even find it much harder here than if you have high standards because you’re just one of the Horde and that’s when numbers are against you Am I a bottom feeder because of my profile ? Tbh, yes. Just one in a thousand other guys who just scream zero effort." So I'm a bottom feeder Haha I like that | |||
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"It might not be you, it could be wrong timing " It’s not you. It’s me!….. ffs. | |||
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"I find this sites great for the forums, for meets and stuff though definitely been more successful on other sites. Same. I find women will engage in conversation more on other apps. The forums brought me back to this. " In all honesty I doubt anyone would reply to a message from what is essentially a non existent profile - I know I wouldn’t. | |||
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"I find this sites great for the forums, for meets and stuff though definitely been more successful on other sites. Same. I find women will engage in conversation more on other apps. The forums brought me back to this. In all honesty I doubt anyone would reply to a message from what is essentially a non existent profile - I know I wouldn’t. " Okay I gather bottom feeders are not successful | |||
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"I find this sites great for the forums, for meets and stuff though definitely been more successful on other sites. Same. I find women will engage in conversation more on other apps. The forums brought me back to this. In all honesty I doubt anyone would reply to a message from what is essentially a non existent profile - I know I wouldn’t. Okay I gather bottom feeders are not successful " I didn’t call you a bottom feeder (thought that was another term for rimming ) - but I wouldn’t even open a message from a profile with a silhouette and no text. I put a hell of a lot of effort into my profile - similarly I put a hell of a lot of effort in when I meet someone. If someone makes zero effort into their profile I assume - rightly or wrongly - that they’d put zero effort into out meet too. | |||
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"Okay I gather bottom feeders are not successful " Ask yourself; should they be? | |||
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"Definitely, contrary to what a lot of guys say about this site it isn’t difficult you just have to make an effort and send proper messages, same as on any site. The numbers of men is irrelevant if you are who someone wants to know and meet Not sure I wholly agree with this, while it is down to whether they want to meet you, it is possible to create the perfectly constructed message and it can still go unread if it's buried among the many "Faf" messages. It's a big reason why I've pretty much stopped sending the first message as it started to feel like a fool's errand" Indeed. I'm sort of in the same boat and just going about it. | |||
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"well maybe not on here. but if you put yourself out there in the real world… buddy i’m telling you i’ve had some of the wildest nights with some older women clients, bite the bullet and put yourself out there !!" Clients? | |||
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"This is an interesting forum topic. So firstly, as I believe others have said. You have to define success. Very few men are going to sign up to an account here and have women and couples beating down their doors. There are some. They’re either unbelievably stunning, have muscles for days or cocks longer than my arms. As we are all firstly taken by the way someone looks (oh don’t deny it ) this is simply life. Then you must consider the numbers. I’m blessed to have some wonderful female and couples as friends. I know that they receive hundreds of winks, fabs and messages per day. So for us ‘normal’ folk, standing out from the crowd can be tough. And we haven’t yet factored in the disparity in numbers. For every single woman or couples profile you’d have to conservatively estimate, say, 10?, 20? Single male profiles. So what can be done about it. Firstly as others have said, no profile pic or lack of effort on the profile is not going to lead to anything eye catching. It’s not hard to put up some nice pictures (I hate selfies, it takes twenty pics to find one I kinda like, and it’s nerve wracking sharing). It has to be done. Secondly it isn’t too difficult to write a profile that is formatted into three simple paragraphs: Who are you? Why are you here/what are you looking for? What do you offer? If you haven’t made some kind of an effort you’re not going to get noticed. It’s like being at a party and not saying hello to anyone. What did you think was going to happen? If you’re looking for a quick hookup then with the above guy may or may not get lucky. Some people are into that and more power to them. However swinging I think is a different story, swinging is as much about the community as the naughty antics. Therefore I’d suggest using the forums, contributing, letting your personality come out. Someone may well read something you write and think ‘oh he’s a nice guy’. After all attraction is great, but without laughter, intrigue, comfort, and compatibility it will only go so far (in my opinion). After all we can all have sex, but great sex is presumably why we’re all here. Anyhoo enough of my utter waffle. To answer the question at hand. Men can be ‘successful’ here in meeting people without socials or clubs. I wouldn’t discount those avenues as any time with folk on the same wavelength has to be a good idea. The fantastic friends I have here, those that I have met, and those I hope to meet in future would suggest that if I, a generally average guy, can meet people then you (being a single guy who might be reading this) can too. And now for a breather, I really should shut up. " Put your feet up | |||
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" your profile is the reason why Yours is not much better tbh But she's a woman, l see your point but a woman here doesn't have to make the same effort in anything that a single guy has to, wether they know it or not Women do rule the jungle here." This is bull actually. Any woman or couple who can't be arsed making an effort doesn't deserve any effort in return. Of course they will be inundated with messages but are they really the quality messages they are expecting? No-one rules this jungle except in their own heads. Treat people as equals and speak to them as individuals rather than as a collective and you will discover that those almighty pedestal dwelling women have just as many issues and self doubts as everyone else. | |||
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"Okay I gather bottom feeders are not successful Ask yourself; should they be?" Yeah | |||
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"Okay I gather bottom feeders are not successful Ask yourself; should they be? Yeah " Okay. So the next question becomes: why? Why should women lower their standards, or rather drop them entirely? Let’s reverse it: how many “bottom feeder” women are you willing to lower your standards for? | |||
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" your profile is the reason why I haven't bothered making an effort because it seems to be a bit pointless. I had a profile before when I used dab a long time ago and it wasn't much better than what I have now." I think you might have just answered your own question - for this time and the last. | |||
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"Can single men be successful on here without going to organised social events or swinging clubs. " The thing about attending clubs it introduces you to others in the scene and shows you are both who you say you are and genuine, so some people will insist on this step as a safety measure. As an added bonus, if you make friends on the scene you are more likely to be invited to private parties | |||
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"Can single men be successful on here without going to organised social events or swinging clubs. The thing about attending clubs it introduces you to others in the scene and shows you are both who you say you are and genuine, so some people will insist on this step as a safety measure. As an added bonus, if you make friends on the scene you are more likely to be invited to private parties " | |||
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"This is an interesting forum topic. So firstly, as I believe others have said. You have to define success. Very few men are going to sign up to an account here and have women and couples beating down their doors. There are some. They’re either unbelievably stunning, have muscles for days or cocks longer than my arms. As we are all firstly taken by the way someone looks (oh don’t deny it ) this is simply life. Then you must consider the numbers. I’m blessed to have some wonderful female and couples as friends. I know that they receive hundreds of winks, fabs and messages per day. So for us ‘normal’ folk, standing out from the crowd can be tough. And we haven’t yet factored in the disparity in numbers. For every single woman or couples profile you’d have to conservatively estimate, say, 10?, 20? Single male profiles. So what can be done about it. Firstly as others have said, no profile pic or lack of effort on the profile is not going to lead to anything eye catching. It’s not hard to put up some nice pictures (I hate selfies, it takes twenty pics to find one I kinda like, and it’s nerve wracking sharing). It has to be done. Secondly it isn’t too difficult to write a profile that is formatted into three simple paragraphs: Who are you? Why are you here/what are you looking for? What do you offer? If you haven’t made some kind of an effort you’re not going to get noticed. It’s like being at a party and not saying hello to anyone. What did you think was going to happen? If you’re looking for a quick hookup then with the above guy may or may not get lucky. Some people are into that and more power to them. However swinging I think is a different story, swinging is as much about the community as the naughty antics. Therefore I’d suggest using the forums, contributing, letting your personality come out. Someone may well read something you write and think ‘oh he’s a nice guy’. After all attraction is great, but without laughter, intrigue, comfort, and compatibility it will only go so far (in my opinion). After all we can all have sex, but great sex is presumably why we’re all here. Anyhoo enough of my utter waffle. To answer the question at hand. Men can be ‘successful’ here in meeting people without socials or clubs. I wouldn’t discount those avenues as any time with folk on the same wavelength has to be a good idea. The fantastic friends I have here, those that I have met, and those I hope to meet in future would suggest that if I, a generally average guy, can meet people then you (being a single guy who might be reading this) can too. And now for a breather, I really should shut up. " Great post! | |||
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"Can single men be successful on here without going to organised social events or swinging clubs. I feel if you are not in some sort of clique or if you haven't got a bbc it's pretty much a waste of time ." Of course you can. But getting yourself to socials etc help. What doesn't help and never will is a blank profile. There is nothing to go on for anyone, your page is a chance to sell yourself. Blank pages like yourself often get deleted without being read. | |||
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"Definitely, contrary to what a lot of guys say about this site it isn’t difficult you just have to make an effort and send proper messages, same as on any site. The numbers of men is irrelevant if you are who someone wants to know and meet · Not sure I wholly agree with this, while it is down to whether they want to meet you, it is possible to create the perfectly constructed message and it can still go unread if it's buried among the many "Faf" messages. It's a big reason why I've pretty much stopped sending the first message as it started to feel like a fool's errand" • I couldn't agree more. ^ This, in essence, is the crux of it. You can studiously construct the most pleasing of profiles with a montage of tasteful photographs, send a grammatically correct, hand-crafted introductory message and it will fester in the recipient's InBox like discarded confetti. The imbalance of women versus men plays a significant part on 'success'. I've never been to a club and nor do I have any designs to. I started attending fab organised socials to make new friends. I haven't sent a first message in almost two years; my meets and encounters have been on the back of women messaging me... ° And for the reprobate higher up in this thread who remarked "Stupid questions get stupid answers": it wasn't a stupid question. It takes some gumption for a man to post threads like these without getting lambasted. | |||
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"Can single men be successful on here without going to organised social events or swinging clubs. I feel if you are not in some sort of clique or if you haven't got a bbc it's pretty much a waste of time . Get out of fab what you put in . To many guys on here think it’s going to be easy like just send a message and a cock pic . Yes it’s a swingers site but yes single guys still need to put some effort in " Whoooaaaaa ….. a cock pic AND a message??? | |||
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"Definitely, contrary to what a lot of guys say about this site it isn’t difficult you just have to make an effort and send proper messages, same as on any site. The numbers of men is irrelevant if you are who someone wants to know and meet · Not sure I wholly agree with this, while it is down to whether they want to meet you, it is possible to create the perfectly constructed message and it can still go unread if it's buried among the many "Faf" messages. It's a big reason why I've pretty much stopped sending the first message as it started to feel like a fool's errand • I couldn't agree more. ^ This, in essence, is the crux of it. You can studiously construct the most pleasing of profiles with a montage of tasteful photographs, send a grammatically correct, hand-crafted introductory message and it will fester in the recipient's InBox like discarded confetti. The imbalance of women versus men plays a significant part on 'success'. I've never been to a club and nor do I have any designs to. I started attending fab organised socials to make new friends. I haven't sent a first message in almost two years; my meets and encounters have been on the back of women messaging me... ° And for the reprobate higher up in this thread who remarked "Stupid questions get stupid answers": it wasn't a stupid question. It takes some gumption for a man to post threads like these without getting lambasted." I don’t agree with this - people will and do respond if they want to. When your inbox is overloaded it’s because you’re choosing to ignore messages and so the ones on the top are more likely to get replied to than older ones. If they don’t and become old/unread just assume they were not interested enough to notice you. Maybe try again to be sure and then just accept it - they are not interested - and move on I think guys who claim to write ‘perfectly crafted’ messages but keep getting ignored and have no success just because the women get too many messages are misguided. It’s always the same story with whiners on here , they blame everyone but themselves | |||
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"Can single men be successful on here without going to organised social events or swinging clubs. I feel if you are not in some sort of clique or if you haven't got a bbc it's pretty much a waste of time ." Of course you can be succesful. if ypu are respectful, confident and check your spelling/grammar when messaging (also dont copy paste your message, they can tell). tasteful pics help or pics that show what you are interested in. i have been to one swingers club way back in 2015. yet i have met a few women over the years. | |||
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" your profile is the reason why " profile says, I will add more if i decide to stay. been a member 4 months, no new info, no pics.. i agree the profile is not helping. | |||
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"Can single men be successful on here without going to organised social events or swinging clubs. I feel if you are not in some sort of clique or if you haven't got a bbc it's pretty much a waste of time ." I'm not in a clique, don't have a BBC (or BWC) just a LWC but, do have a positive attitude & love a good old laugh. It's not all doom and gloom for single guys but, you just need to relax, put some effort in and realise it's not all about the sex. | |||
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"Yes we can (Sent Obama his royalty fee for using that phrase ) I always thought that was Bob the Builder's Posh " Then Obama needs to send him a cheque | |||
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"well maybe not on here. but if you put yourself out there in the real world… buddy i’m telling you i’ve had some of the wildest nights with some older women clients, bite the bullet and put yourself out there !! Clients?" He's like the lad in that film... Leo Grande lol | |||
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