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"We have a live in boyfriend, mostly good fun but hard to be all equal in the relationship" This is the bit I can never quite get my head around with poly - I genuinely don’t see how everyone can be equal. Would love to know how that really works. | |||
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"I'm happily solo poly " I second this | |||
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"We have a live in boyfriend, mostly good fun but hard to be all equal in the relationship This is the bit I can never quite get my head around with poly - I genuinely don’t see how everyone can be equal. Would love to know how that really works." Well it's all pre arranged and settled upon prior to going in to it. It's a bit more detailed and complex than that but it's the basics. But yes, this is the part I will and have struggled with being poly. While I'm not exactly a needy person (yes really) , at times we all have that needy mood, and if it hits but they have time with somebody else, it hits harder. | |||
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"We have a live in boyfriend, mostly good fun but hard to be all equal in the relationship This is the bit I can never quite get my head around with poly - I genuinely don’t see how everyone can be equal. Would love to know how that really works." I don't think it's necessarily about equality though (obviously every poly situation is different). I understand it as knowing that one person isn't going to fulfill every single aspect perfectly, so it's about having partners who add to and compliment your lives in different areas, in a beautiful balancing act LvM* *not poly, could be thirty-two miles off the mark... | |||
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"We have a live in boyfriend, mostly good fun but hard to be all equal in the relationship This is the bit I can never quite get my head around with poly - I genuinely don’t see how everyone can be equal. Would love to know how that really works." It's all about the time and nurture that you want to put in. Say a man who has two families in two different houses. He spends half a week with one family, half with another. Equal quality time spent together. Some are happy enough to all live together, but they all make an effort to nurture each other Poly is what you want to make it be | |||
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"We have a live in boyfriend, mostly good fun but hard to be all equal in the relationship This is the bit I can never quite get my head around with poly - I genuinely don’t see how everyone can be equal. Would love to know how that really works. It's all about the time and nurture that you want to put in. Say a man who has two families in two different houses. He spends half a week with one family, half with another. Equal quality time spent together. Some are happy enough to all live together, but they all make an effort to nurture each other Poly is what you want to make it be " Exactly that. It's what you make it and all depends on the initial parameters you agree on | |||
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"We have a live in boyfriend, mostly good fun but hard to be all equal in the relationship This is the bit I can never quite get my head around with poly - I genuinely don’t see how everyone can be equal. Would love to know how that really works. It's all about the time and nurture that you want to put in. Say a man who has two families in two different houses. He spends half a week with one family, half with another. Equal quality time spent together. Some are happy enough to all live together, but they all make an effort to nurture each other Poly is what you want to make it be " Exactly that. It's what you make it and all depends on the initial parameters you agree on | |||
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"We have a live in boyfriend, mostly good fun but hard to be all equal in the relationship This is the bit I can never quite get my head around with poly - I genuinely don’t see how everyone can be equal. Would love to know how that really works." Poly triangles are something else, it’s not what being poly is, it’s a very specific type of poly relationship. They are definitely not for me ! I’m Poly but don’t ever mix relationships like that | |||
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"ENM here " I really dislike this phrase , ethics is much more than not being unfaithful | |||
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"ENM here I really dislike this phrase , ethics is much more than not being unfaithful " Take it up with a society that has raised and trained us all to think only loving and having sex with one person (used to be forever, now it's at a time) is the only ethical and moral choice... meaning that non-monogamy is inherently, and by definition, unethical. So, the phrase 'ethical non-monogamy' (or ENM) is simply a consequence of having to differenciate it from cheating... which is still what a lot of mainstream society percieves polyamory to be. | |||
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"ENM here I really dislike this phrase , ethics is much more than not being unfaithful Take it up with a society that has raised and trained us all to think only loving and having sex with one person (used to be forever, now it's at a time) is the only ethical and moral choice... meaning that non-monogamy is inherently, and by definition, unethical. So, the phrase 'ethical non-monogamy' (or ENM) is simply a consequence of having to differenciate it from cheating... which is still what a lot of mainstream society percieves polyamory to be." Exactly, the last thing I need to do is try and explain myself to mainstream society. If I did it wouldn’t be with special words and acronyms or by trying to justify my kinks & preferences with ethics or morality. | |||
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"Exactly, the last thing I need to do is try and explain myself to mainstream society. If I did it wouldn’t be with special words and acronyms or by trying to justify my kinks & preferences with ethics or morality. " That's okay, you don't have to explain yourself to anyone you don't want to. Personally, I prefer when people do know and use the common terminology, as it indicates they've at least had enough of an interest to look into it or some actual experience. At least I prefer it when considering a potential partner. I have no problems being an immoral slut in the eyes of many. | |||
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"Exactly, the last thing I need to do is try and explain myself to mainstream society. If I did it wouldn’t be with special words and acronyms or by trying to justify my kinks & preferences with ethics or morality." Okay? So don't, then. But clearly there was a need, or a perceived need, among the wider community to make the differentiation clearly defined... likely due to a lot of stigma and misguided information about non-monogamy from mainstream society. Your dislike of the phrase seems equally misguided, like you take it as personal slight against your own ethics and/or morality or something? You needn't. | |||
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"Exactly, the last thing I need to do is try and explain myself to mainstream society. If I did it wouldn’t be with special words and acronyms or by trying to justify my kinks & preferences with ethics or morality. Okay? So don't, then. But clearly there was a need, or a perceived need, among the wider community to make the differentiation clearly defined... likely due to a lot of stigma and misguided information about non-monogamy from mainstream society. Your dislike of the phrase seems equally misguided, like you take it as personal slight against your own ethics and/or morality or something? You needn't." I don't think so. You know there is no poly community ? Same as there is trans community. There is no straight men community or gay community or swinging community either. There are just individuals with a wide range of views, beliefs etc , some things in common and others not in common. These words / phrases are not created by the ‘community’ they are often created by activist types with a specific agenda needing to group support and then people adopt the words because they think it’s correct , there is no independent debate or discussion involving everyone. We’re you consulted ? | |||
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"Polyamory is just loving and being in a relationships with more then one person. There is a huge amount of names to help describe exactly how people have arranged it. But it's just loving/relationship with more than one person. " | |||
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"We have a live in boyfriend, mostly good fun but hard to be all equal in the relationship This is the bit I can never quite get my head around with poly - I genuinely don’t see how everyone can be equal. Would love to know how that really works." Do you believe people are equal in monogamous relationships | |||
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"You know there is no poly community ? Same as there is trans community. There is no straight men community or gay community or swinging community either. There are just individuals with a wide range of views, beliefs etc , some things in common and others not in common. These words / phrases are not created by the ‘community’ they are often created by activist types with a specific agenda needing to group support and then people adopt the words because they think it’s correct , there is no independent debate or discussion involving everyone. We’re you consulted ? " If you don't believe in community that's fine. But other people actually enjoy connecting with people who understand certain parts of their lives that don't make sense to anyone else. If I need to talk to someone about issues in my relationships, I prefer to talk to someone who understands how it actually feels to be in those situations. If my trans partner needs to talk to someone about certain issues that I have no experience of, regardless of acceptance or understanding, he turns to the trans community because they have the lived experience. Sympathy and empathy are very different. It's okay to want to be independent and individual. But there's no need to drag down the people who like to be a part of something | |||
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"I don't think so." Great. You're free to think whatever you like. Your personal thoughts don't change the existence of ENM as a phrase, though, nor the reasons for its existence - the latter being where you and I clearly disagree. "You know there is no poly community ? Same as there is trans community. There is no straight men community or gay community or swinging community either." Again, if you personally choose not to accept or understand the (pretty basic, honestly) concept of a wider community / consensus of thoughts, opinions and values then great, you do you, I suppose. Doesn't change the fact that it exists, though. "There are just individuals with a wide range of views, beliefs etc , some things in common and others not in common." And? This is not mutually exclusive with group consensus or wider communities. "These words / phrases are not created by the ‘community’ they are often created by activist types with a specific agenda needing to group support and then people adopt the words because they think it’s correct , there is no independent debate or discussion involving everyone." Well, you're generalising massively here. I'm not. I'm speaking specifically about ENM as a phrase. I've already told you what the 'agenda' was with its creation. You can choose not to accept that, just as you can choose not to use it. All I did was point out that your dislike of it seems misplaced / misguided, and more and more like a personal issue with you, rather than ENM itself. | |||
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"I don't think so. Great. You're free to think whatever you like. Your personal thoughts don't change the existence of ENM as a phrase, though, nor the reasons for its existence - the latter being where you and I clearly disagree. You know there is no poly community ? Same as there is trans community. There is no straight men community or gay community or swinging community either. Again, if you personally choose not to accept or understand the (pretty basic, honestly) concept of a wider community / consensus of thoughts, opinions and values then great, you do you, I suppose. Doesn't change the fact that it exists, though. There are just individuals with a wide range of views, beliefs etc , some things in common and others not in common. And? This is not mutually exclusive with group consensus or wider communities. These words / phrases are not created by the ‘community’ they are often created by activist types with a specific agenda needing to group support and then people adopt the words because they think it’s correct , there is no independent debate or discussion involving everyone. Well, you're generalising massively here. I'm not. I'm speaking specifically about ENM as a phrase. I've already told you what the 'agenda' was with its creation. You can choose not to accept that, just as you can choose not to use it. All I did was point out that your dislike of it seems misplaced / misguided, and more and more like a personal issue with you, rather than ENM itself." You forgot your *mic drop* | |||
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"I have once enjoyed a polyamorous relationship with a great couple and would love to repeat the experience. How common is polyamory? Any others had experience or couples thought about it but haven't yet dipped their toes in?" Would love to me a part time 3rd person in one | |||
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"Can I ask, in a poly relationship, does that mean all three members have other partners. Or is it unbalanced, that someone is going to be in effect monogamous? " People do it in different ways. I prefer to operate purely in independent dyads. Some people have a closed triad, some people just have a harem. My way is the way that works for me, I don't like to get involved in the other ways. | |||
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