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"Is this the design thing where everything (work, medical and education services etc.) are all within fifteen minutes travel of a residential area? LvM" So the average town/village pre 70/80’s then?  | |||
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"Seems like a good idea but I feel like it would be seriously difficult to implement in existing cities considering they're already so densely arranged. LvM" I think it's a laudable thing to aim for, personally. Even if it's not possible, getting closer is still an improvement. | |||
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"Staff working for local government in Oxford are also reporting abuse over it, which is revolting." Yep, my colleague also told me this.  | |||
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"The reason I am bringing this up on here: A colleague told me about it during a work conversation this morning as apparently Solihull will be rolling it out. There are many other cities that consider it right now and my concern is why we are not hearing about this in the news? If you google it there is plenty of material under this title or the "20 minute neighbourhood" scheme. Not a conspiracy follower but curious why this is not more widely known/ made known!" What's in the news is largely a function of what the businesses that own the news decide to share | |||
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"The reason I am bringing this up on here: A colleague told me about it during a work conversation this morning as apparently Solihull will be rolling it out. There are many other cities that consider it right now and my concern is why we are not hearing about this in the news? If you google it there is plenty of material under this title or the "20 minute neighbourhood" scheme. Not a conspiracy follower but curious why this is not more widely known/ made known! What's in the news is largely a function of what the businesses that own the news decide to share" Perhaps we should be concerned.... | |||
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"Oxford has been hijacked by a bunch of lunatics like Piers Corbyn and Laurence Fox who seem to believe that this is part of a dystopia future of climate change lockdowns and conspiracy theorists are convinced it is part of the 'great reset'. Obviously if asked what the great reset is they can't explain and go fir a derisory 'do your own research' but i digress. The reality is far more sensible and seems to want to promote sustainable transport and a move away from car reliability while improving local amenities. Not sure why people are so angry about that" I am not angry about it at the moment - really just concerned that this seems to be going on without people being informed. I get the principle idea of sharing resources and reducing impact on environments etc but there should be a degree of informing the public and in some cases seeking consultation? | |||
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"But on the serious point, how can it be a bad idea to make sure amenities are close to people. The conspiracy bit, as far as I can tell, is that you would then be forced to remain within your 15 minute zone somehow, which is patently ridiculous." Especially as the area I live in has a huge imbalance of teachers it seems..... so all the schools would have to be here. Further up the coast are very many doctors.......... do they all have to work in the one hospital ? | |||
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"Ah, I stopped reading when I see conspiracy theorists are against it, so I know it must be a good idea. I think I live in a 15 Minute bit of this great city already..." Does this not constitute a somewhat binary view of the world, if conspiracists are against it, it is not worth reading? I try to read not just within my own echo chamber (I am as I said NOT a conspiracist) because I want to be informed as widely and objectively as possible and dismissing something without reading it to me makes no sense if I want to get closer to the truth. | |||
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"The reason I am bringing this up on here: A colleague told me about it during a work conversation this morning as apparently Solihull will be rolling it out. There are many other cities that consider it right now and my concern is why we are not hearing about this in the news? If you google it there is plenty of material under this title or the "20 minute neighbourhood" scheme. Not a conspiracy follower but curious why this is not more widely known/ made known! What's in the news is largely a function of what the businesses that own the news decide to share Perhaps we should be concerned.... "I dislike the way the news seems to be about corporate interests rather than what's newsworthy, but I'm not sure that makes this inherently concerning. | |||
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"Ah, I stopped reading when I see conspiracy theorists are against it, so I know it must be a good idea. I think I live in a 15 Minute bit of this great city already... Does this not constitute a somewhat binary view of the world, if conspiracists are against it, it is not worth reading? I try to read not just within my own echo chamber (I am as I said NOT a conspiracist) because I want to be informed as widely and objectively as possible and dismissing something without reading it to me makes no sense if I want to get closer to the truth." When I first heard about this I went to the relevant council website (it was Oxford, as it happens) and read some of the documents about it. (I'd probably have read all of them if it were relevant to me. I read enough to satisfy my curiosity) | |||
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"But on the serious point, how can it be a bad idea to make sure amenities are close to people. The conspiracy bit, as far as I can tell, is that you would then be forced to remain within your 15 minute zone somehow, which is patently ridiculous." That's clearly where the chips implanted in the vaccine come into play, you go outside your zone and 'they' watch you just in case your up to something.. Op, only heard of this in Oxford and that's mainly because as stated above the angry usual types are seeing stuff that isn't there .. Local consultation by councils never ses to be that efficient in my previous experience, more akin to tick that box and onto the next part .. | |||
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"Ah, I stopped reading when I see conspiracy theorists are against it, so I know it must be a good idea. I think I live in a 15 Minute bit of this great city already... Does this not constitute a somewhat binary view of the world, if conspiracists are against it, it is not worth reading? I try to read not just within my own echo chamber (I am as I said NOT a conspiracist) because I want to be informed as widely and objectively as possible and dismissing something without reading it to me makes no sense if I want to get closer to the truth." Yeah, probably. I was being tongue in cheek. That said, while I'm all for balance, not all views are created equal. | |||
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"Ah, I stopped reading when I see conspiracy theorists are against it, so I know it must be a good idea. I think I live in a 15 Minute bit of this great city already... Does this not constitute a somewhat binary view of the world, if conspiracists are against it, it is not worth reading? I try to read not just within my own echo chamber (I am as I said NOT a conspiracist) because I want to be informed as widely and objectively as possible and dismissing something without reading it to me makes no sense if I want to get closer to the truth. Yeah, probably. I was being tongue in cheek. That said, while I'm all for balance, not all views are created equal."  | |||
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"But on the serious point, how can it be a bad idea to make sure amenities are close to people. The conspiracy bit, as far as I can tell, is that you would then be forced to remain within your 15 minute zone somehow, which is patently ridiculous. That's clearly where the chips implanted in the vaccine come into play, you go outside your zone and 'they' watch you just in case your up to something.. Op, only heard of this in Oxford and that's mainly because as stated above the angry usual types are seeing stuff that isn't there .. Local consultation by councils never ses to be that efficient in my previous experience, more akin to tick that box and onto the next part .." Yeah, it'll be just like the Hunger Games soon. Wake up Sheeple! | |||
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"But on the serious point, how can it be a bad idea to make sure amenities are close to people. The conspiracy bit, as far as I can tell, is that you would then be forced to remain within your 15 minute zone somehow, which is patently ridiculous. That's clearly where the chips implanted in the vaccine come into play, you go outside your zone and 'they' watch you just in case your up to something.. Op, only heard of this in Oxford and that's mainly because as stated above the angry usual types are seeing stuff that isn't there .. Local consultation by councils never ses to be that efficient in my previous experience, more akin to tick that box and onto the next part .." I heard about Solihull and Oxford - I cast my field a little wider and apparently they are talking about it in Germany for example, too, so not just a UK discussion. | |||
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"But on the serious point, how can it be a bad idea to make sure amenities are close to people. The conspiracy bit, as far as I can tell, is that you would then be forced to remain within your 15 minute zone somehow, which is patently ridiculous. That's clearly where the chips implanted in the vaccine come into play, you go outside your zone and 'they' watch you just in case your up to something.. Op, only heard of this in Oxford and that's mainly because as stated above the angry usual types are seeing stuff that isn't there .. Local consultation by councils never ses to be that efficient in my previous experience, more akin to tick that box and onto the next part .. I heard about Solihull and Oxford - I cast my field a little wider and apparently they are talking about it in Germany for example, too, so not just a UK discussion. "There's many good ideas already working in suburban areas in Europe, local services etc and cutting down on commuting looks positive from several aspects.. Now, Milton Keynes  | |||
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"Well I have given this issue deep and serious thought ...... We all have to move before it comes into play. Move or retrain. I want to live in an area full of doctors. nurses, bread shops and open air free gyms........ Where are all the poor drug dealers going to go ? This is a shambles! Do they walk for 15 minutes or is everyone allowed to walk to them ? God help the ice cream man with such a short round..... " Delivery drones? | |||
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"I already live this way. Primary school Secondary school Town centre shops Supermarket Health centre and my work, all within 15 minutes by car. The county hospital I can do in 15 minutes,and have done, but it wasn’t legal "The principal is based on a 15min walk. Not a 15min drive. It's about actually putting accessibility, sustainability, and community at the front when it comes to town planning. I remember reading about how it's been done in (I think) a Scandinavian country with social housing. It's about ensuring every home has a shops, a community centre, a doctor a dentist, school, decent public transport etc all in a walkable distance. It builds community while reducing the reliance on private (or even public) transport. The conspiracy theorists have decided this means you'll need to have a permit to leave your city. | |||
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" I'll do whatever my microchip tells me to."  Who wrote this? | |||
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"I heard about it and it seems like it is another way of controlling people." How Shag ? How would the people be controlled ? | |||
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"I hadn't heard of it before this thread. However, on looking it up , I have not only heard of it, I have lived it. Welcome to way life used to be! Life pre supermarket, pre colossal secondary schools and un navigable hospitals which are cities within cities. Everything was local in my time. " I was about to type much the same thing. This is how life was for the majority (unless they lived in very remote places) until about 1970 | |||
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"I was about to type much the same thing. This is how life was for the majority (unless they lived in very remote places) until about 1970" Funny, isn’t it? It’s almost as though late-stage capitalism has been a failed experiment that we now need to fix.  | |||
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"Guys. Girls. Calm down. It’s just a standard bit of urban planning theory. It’s an attempt to find ways to make our cities a bit nicer. There’s no hidden agenda. They’re trying to help. Look around. Our town and city centres are fucked. Retail isn’t enough to base them on any more. Shops are failing left, right and centre. For the good of everybody, urban space needs rethinking with a more balanced mix of housing, shopping, culture, schools and green space. Let the urban planners do their jobs and figure out a better plan for all our futures." Tell me more Jesus! Tell me more ! | |||
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"I heard about it and it seems like it is another way of controlling people." Utter nonsense. It's simply a town planning tool to reduce reliance on fossil fuel vehicles. The idea being that people should be able to shop, go to school, get medical care with a 15min walk/bike/public transport radius of their home. There's absolutely nothing about having to remain in your "zone", that's the conspiracy theorist bullshit. Why would we need extra consultation on having amenities closer to where we live?? | |||
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"I was about to type much the same thing. This is how life was for the majority (unless they lived in very remote places) until about 1970 Funny, isn’t it? It’s almost as though late-stage capitalism has been a failed experiment that we now need to fix. " it is | |||
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"I'm fortunate to be in a small town with everything within easy walking distance. Seems to be very sensible not to have to trek into city centres or to out of town shopping malls. " Yes. 99% of what I need is within a 10 minute walk of where I live, and there's ample public transport at my door. It's lovely. I wish more people had the option to live like this, and I think it's laudable to aim for. | |||
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" I'll do whatever my microchip tells me to. Who wrote this? "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhEUBgu9j5Y | |||
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"Are people to be allowed out of the 15 minute zone?" There is no zone. And no restrictions on movement. It’s just about trying to make sure there are plenty of amenities near to everybody’s homes. | |||
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"I'm fortunate to be in a small town with everything within easy walking distance. Seems to be very sensible not to have to trek into city centres or to out of town shopping malls. Yes. 99% of what I need is within a 10 minute walk of where I live, and there's ample public transport at my door. It's lovely. I wish more people had the option to live like this, and I think it's laudable to aim for." Yes and I think the move to wfh has made people use local shops and amenities much more and made them viable which is a good thing. | |||
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"Are people to be allowed out of the 15 minute zone? There is no zone. And no restrictions on movement. It’s just about trying to make sure there are plenty of amenities near to everybody’s homes." Yes, my question was really aimed at making people think a bit about the control aspect that is worrying them. | |||
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"I already live this way. Primary school Secondary school Town centre shops Supermarket Health centre and my work, all within 15 minutes by car. The county hospital I can do in 15 minutes,and have done, but it wasn’t legal
The principal is based on a 15min walk. Not a 15min drive.
It's about actually putting accessibility, sustainability, and community at the front when it comes to town planning.
I remember reading about how it's been done in (I think) a Scandinavian country with social housing.
It's about ensuring every home has a shops, a community centre, a doctor a dentist, school, decent public transport etc all in a walkable distance.
It builds community while reducing the reliance on private (or even public) transport.
The conspiracy theorists have decided this means you'll need to have a permit to leave your city. "On the last point, I was told that there would be a charge of £75 and a restriction on frequency - I have not seen evidence yet but it is being discussed and no, not necessarily by conspiracy theorists . | |||
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"I would love it, the shop at the end of my road is closed for a refurb and I am having palpitations about no easy access to a daily french stick! " priceless | |||
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"Are people to be allowed out of the 15 minute zone? There is no zone. And no restrictions on movement. It’s just about trying to make sure there are plenty of amenities near to everybody’s homes. Yes, my question was really aimed at making people think a bit about the control aspect that is worrying them. " That was really behind my initial question, I was a bit concerned that I had not heard anything about it in the news, which usually give us plenty of irrelevant stuff! I think it is better to keep people informed and since the pandemic, there is more fear that lack of information and misinformation are on the increase. | |||
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"Reuters have released a fact check in Dec 22. Google the following: Reuters fact check oxford 15 minute city We aren't going to be under some dystopian marshall law....." Also pls watch the Newsnight piece on 15 minute cities. It's short + easy to find on youtube. And it does a good job of showing how disinformation/conspiracy theories got tangled up with this. | |||
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"I already live this way. Primary school Secondary school Town centre shops Supermarket Health centre and my work, all within 15 minutes by car. The county hospital I can do in 15 minutes,and have done, but it wasn’t legal
The principal is based on a 15min walk. Not a 15min drive.
It's about actually putting accessibility, sustainability, and community at the front when it comes to town planning.
I remember reading about how it's been done in (I think) a Scandinavian country with social housing.
It's about ensuring every home has a shops, a community centre, a doctor a dentist, school, decent public transport etc all in a walkable distance.
It builds community while reducing the reliance on private (or even public) transport.
The conspiracy theorists have decided this means you'll need to have a permit to leave your city. "Ahh, right, I hadn’t noticed anyone mention the walk but, just the 15mins. Walking wouldn’t work for me. | |||
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"I already live this way. Primary school Secondary school Town centre shops Supermarket Health centre and my work, all within 15 minutes by car. The county hospital I can do in 15 minutes,and have done, but it wasn’t legal
The principal is based on a 15min walk. Not a 15min drive.
It's about actually putting accessibility, sustainability, and community at the front when it comes to town planning.
I remember reading about how it's been done in (I think) a Scandinavian country with social housing.
It's about ensuring every home has a shops, a community centre, a doctor a dentist, school, decent public transport etc all in a walkable distance.
It builds community while reducing the reliance on private (or even public) transport.
The conspiracy theorists have decided this means you'll need to have a permit to leave your city.
Ahh, right, I hadn’t noticed anyone mention the walk but, just the 15mins.
Walking wouldn’t work for me. "I was just thinking also how it would work if you have a lot of family in different parts of the country or even abroad. What if you were to become a carer for a relative? What about all the pleasurable non-local things like theatre, concert, sport event in a different city or, dare I say, attending a swingers event somewhere away? (The latter is tongue in cheek | |||
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"I was told that there would be a charge of £75 and a restriction on frequency - I have not seen evidence yet but it is being discussed and no, not necessarily by conspiracy theorists . "Someone’s making that nonsense up to scare people. God knows why. Best to ignore them. | |||
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"I was just thinking also how it would work if you have a lot of family in different parts of the country or even abroad. What if you were to become a carer for a relative? What about all the pleasurable non-local things like theatre, concert, sport event in a different city or, dare I say, attending a swingers event somewhere away? (The latter is tongue in cheek "Nobody is saying they’ll stop you going anywhere you want to. They’re just saying that if you live in an urban area it would be nice to have more stuff near your house. | |||
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"I was just thinking also how it would work if you have a lot of family in different parts of the country or even abroad. What if you were to become a carer for a relative? What about all the pleasurable non-local things like theatre, concert, sport event in a different city or, dare I say, attending a swingers event somewhere away? (The latter is tongue in cheek
Nobody is saying they’ll stop you going anywhere you want to. They’re just saying that if you live in an urban area it would be nice to have more stuff near your house. "And that is definitely a great idea for a host of reasons. | |||
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"Are people to be allowed out of the 15 minute zone? There is no zone. And no restrictions on movement. It’s just about trying to make sure there are plenty of amenities near to everybody’s homes. Yes, my question was really aimed at making people think a bit about the control aspect that is worrying them. That was really behind my initial question, I was a bit concerned that I had not heard anything about it in the news, which usually give us plenty of irrelevant stuff! I think it is better to keep people informed and since the pandemic, there is more fear that lack of information and misinformation are on the increase. " I think we're living in interesting times. We're bombarded on every side with news and information, very little of which is good or trustworthy. I think to myself what are the benefits and to who of keeping the vast majority of the population in one place for long periods of time. | |||
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"I was told that there would be a charge of £75 and a restriction on frequency - I have not seen evidence yet but it is being discussed and no, not necessarily by conspiracy theorists .
Someone’s making that nonsense up to scare people. God knows why. Best to ignore them."In oxford under these new filters that will start in 2040, residents will be able to drive freely around their own neighbourhoods, but will be fined up to £70 for driving into other neighbourhoods. I wonder if they have to seek permission to cross the 6 zones that it will be divided into, it seems complicated doesnt it? | |||
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"I was told that there would be a charge of £75 and a restriction on frequency - I have not seen evidence yet but it is being discussed and no, not necessarily by conspiracy theorists .
Someone’s making that nonsense up to scare people. God knows why. Best to ignore them.In oxford under these new filters that will start in 2040, residents will be able to drive freely around their own neighbourhoods, but will be fined up to £70 for driving into other neighbourhoods. I wonder if they have to seek permission to cross the 6 zones that it will be divided into, it seems complicated doesnt it?"What's the source for that if you don't mind me asking? | |||
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"I was told that there would be a charge of £75 and a restriction on frequency - I have not seen evidence yet but it is being discussed and no, not necessarily by conspiracy theorists .
Someone’s making that nonsense up to scare people. God knows why. Best to ignore them.In oxford under these new filters that will start in 2040, residents will be able to drive freely around their own neighbourhoods, but will be fined up to £70 for driving into other neighbourhoods. I wonder if they have to seek permission to cross the 6 zones that it will be divided into, it seems complicated doesnt it?"Thanks for sharing this - not that I am happy to see it but I am glad I was not just following somebody else's fear story. | |||
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"Not sure if this has been asked before - if so, I would welcome if somebody could signpost me to the relevant thread. Who has heard about this because I have not seen it on the News but when a friend told me about it I googled it and was rather surprised." Yep.. Oxfords well on the way.. | |||
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"I was told that there would be a charge of £75 and a restriction on frequency - I have not seen evidence yet but it is being discussed and no, not necessarily by conspiracy theorists .
Someone’s making that nonsense up to scare people. God knows why. Best to ignore them.In oxford under these new filters that will start in 2040, residents will be able to drive freely around their own neighbourhoods, but will be fined up to £70 for driving into other neighbourhoods. I wonder if they have to seek permission to cross the 6 zones that it will be divided into, it seems complicated doesnt it?
What's the source for that if you don't mind me asking?"Council meeting minutes | |||
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"Not sure if this has been asked before - if so, I would welcome if somebody could signpost me to the relevant thread. Who has heard about this because I have not seen it on the News but when a friend told me about it I googled it and was rather surprised. Yep.. Oxfords well on the way.. " Again, I am asking how it is possible that we do not hear about this? I follow the news on a daily basis and not heard this until today when it must have been in the planning for some time. That is the part I find concerning. | |||
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"I was told that there would be a charge of £75 and a restriction on frequency - I have not seen evidence yet but it is being discussed and no, not necessarily by conspiracy theorists .
Someone’s making that nonsense up to scare people. God knows why. Best to ignore them.In oxford under these new filters that will start in 2040, residents will be able to drive freely around their own neighbourhoods, but will be fined up to £70 for driving into other neighbourhoods. I wonder if they have to seek permission to cross the 6 zones that it will be divided into, it seems complicated doesnt it?"Will they be able to take public transport across the six zones? | |||
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"I was just thinking also how it would work if you have a lot of family in different parts of the country or even abroad. What if you were to become a carer for a relative? What about all the pleasurable non-local things like theatre, concert, sport event in a different city or, dare I say, attending a swingers event somewhere away? (The latter is tongue in cheek
Nobody is saying they’ll stop you going anywhere you want to. They’re just saying that if you live in an urban area it would be nice to have more stuff near your house. "Not really though. The proposal is to fine or prevent use outside of 15 minutes.. There are two cities already working toward it. | |||
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"Not sure if this has been asked before - if so, I would welcome if somebody could signpost me to the relevant thread. Who has heard about this because I have not seen it on the News but when a friend told me about it I googled it and was rather surprised. Yep.. Oxfords well on the way.. Again, I am asking how it is possible that we do not hear about this? I follow the news on a daily basis and not heard this until today when it must have been in the planning for some time. That is the part I find concerning. " It has indeed been discussed at council meetings for some time. And yes it is concerning that it is not more widely being discussed. | |||
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Nobody is saying they’ll stop you going anywhere you want to. They’re just saying that if you live in an urban area it would be nice to have more stuff near your house.
Not really though. The proposal is to fine or prevent use outside of 15 minutes.. There are two cities already working toward it. "Use of cars or any travel? | |||
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"In oxford under these new filters that will start in 2040, residents will be able to drive freely around their own neighbourhoods, but will be fined up to £70 for driving into other neighbourhoods. I wonder if they have to seek permission to cross the 6 zones that it will be divided into, it seems complicated doesnt it?" Okay this is where people are starting to confuse two different things. You’re talking about congestion charges or Low Emission Zones. These are a separate thing, about reducing pollution in built-up areas. One of the problems facing local authorities right now is trying to make traffic/pollution targets match up with housing/transport targets and planning intentions. So they may want to help build amenities everywhere in line with this 15-minute concept. But they also have the UK Gov telling them they have to cut pollution by X amount. And the only way they can think to do that within their current budget is with a big stick - Low Emission Zones and fines for older/bigger cars entering the city centre. That’s unfortunate, and frustrating, but it’s because they can’t afford the better approach - the carrot of free public transport, for example. If you’re against Low Emission Zones, by all means campaign against them. But don’t conflate them with another idea like 15-min cities - that’s how confusion creeps in and good, positive ideas could run the risk of being caught up in the bad vibes. | |||
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"I was told that there would be a charge of £75 and a restriction on frequency - I have not seen evidence yet but it is being discussed and no, not necessarily by conspiracy theorists .
Someone’s making that nonsense up to scare people. God knows why. Best to ignore them.In oxford under these new filters that will start in 2040, residents will be able to drive freely around their own neighbourhoods, but will be fined up to £70 for driving into other neighbourhoods. I wonder if they have to seek permission to cross the 6 zones that it will be divided into, it seems complicated doesnt it?
Thanks for sharing this - not that I am happy to see it but I am glad I was not just following somebody else's fear story. "Yw and yes, it is all over the news and one can also read more about it on the oxford students web site, people in oxford are protesting against it | |||
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"Not really though. The proposal is to fine or prevent use outside of 15 minutes.. There are two cities already working toward it. " There is no such proposal anywhere in the UK. I think you are probably getting mixed up with legislation about reducing air pollution from cars. Or somebody further back along the line of communication has mixed them up and you’ve ended up misinformed. Like Chinese whispers. | |||
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"The reason I am bringing this up on here: A colleague told me about it during a work conversation this morning as apparently Solihull will be rolling it out. There are many other cities that consider it right now and my concern is why we are not hearing about this in the news? If you google it there is plenty of material under this title or the "20 minute neighbourhood" scheme. Not a conspiracy follower but curious why this is not more widely known/ made known! What's in the news is largely a function of what the businesses that own the news decide to share" | |||
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"I was told that there would be a charge of £75 and a restriction on frequency - I have not seen evidence yet but it is being discussed and no, not necessarily by conspiracy theorists .
Someone’s making that nonsense up to scare people. God knows why. Best to ignore them.In oxford under these new filters that will start in 2040, residents will be able to drive freely around their own neighbourhoods, but will be fined up to £70 for driving into other neighbourhoods. I wonder if they have to seek permission to cross the 6 zones that it will be divided into, it seems complicated doesnt it?
What's the source for that if you don't mind me asking?
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"Ahh, right, I hadn’t noticed anyone mention the walk but, just the 15mins. Walking wouldn’t work for me" It doesn't work for me either. I can't walk for 15mins. But it would mean many more amenities were accessable on my scooter, easing my dependance on my car if nothing else. But for most people having, let's say an NHS dentist, within a 15 minute walk would mean they would potentially be more people walking to the dentist than currently having to drive an hour away (Ha lolz jokes on you. The nearest NHS dentist to where I live that's taking on is 20 miles away, not possible to get to easily on public transport oh and is in a different county (it's in Yorkshire not even in Lancashire.) | |||
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"I was told that there would be a charge of £75 and a restriction on frequency - I have not seen evidence yet but it is being discussed and no, not necessarily by conspiracy theorists .
Someone’s making that nonsense up to scare people. God knows why. Best to ignore them.In oxford under these new filters that will start in 2040, residents will be able to drive freely around their own neighbourhoods, but will be fined up to £70 for driving into other neighbourhoods. I wonder if they have to seek permission to cross the 6 zones that it will be divided into, it seems complicated doesnt it?
What's the source for that if you don't mind me asking?
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Someone’s making that nonsense up to scare people. God knows why. Best to ignore them.In oxford under these new filters that will start in 2040, residents will be able to drive freely around their own neighbourhoods, but will be fined up to £70 for driving into other neighbourhoods. I wonder if they have to seek permission to cross the 6 zones that it will be divided into, it seems complicated doesnt it?"Most london Boroughs are being rearranged into this. By 2030 full flow. Herded and otherwise. Re-set and master plan. | |||
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"LTNs - Low Traffic Neighborhoods & FMCs - Fifteen Minute City's Are two subtlety different things. Neither of which is a conspiracy theory and will be coming to a town near you sooner or later." Very fast tracked! Under our very noses tbh. Watch this space! . Errrrr no Space really!' | |||
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"LTNs - Low Traffic Neighborhoods & FMCs - Fifteen Minute City's Are two subtlety different things. Neither of which is a conspiracy theory and will be coming to a town near you sooner or later. Very fast tracked! Under our very noses tbh. Watch this space! . Errrrr no Space really!' "So is the lack of publication as I see it a sign that an informed public is not really high on some politicians' agenda? | |||
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"LTNs - Low Traffic Neighborhoods & FMCs - Fifteen Minute City's Are two subtlety different things. Neither of which is a conspiracy theory and will be coming to a town near you sooner or later. Very fast tracked! Under our very noses tbh. Watch this space! . Errrrr no Space really!'
So is the lack of publication as I see it a sign that an informed public is not really high on some politicians' agenda? "I think it's more that it's just 'ideas'. But conspiracy nuts love it when there's nothing published (even though most ideas never happen). I had a good giggle when last week someone complained about the concept of 15 minute cities and having all required facilities and services on their doorstep, just after they'd moaned about having to travel miles for a hospital appointment and how locals in town weren't supporting local businesses and restaurants and were all heading to Bristol to shop, eat and use leisure facilities.
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So is the lack of publication as I see it a sign that an informed public is not really high on some politicians' agenda? "When ever was it,all a game, play,be played. Master plan, own nothing and be happy! Mind control happened long ago! Fab is not immune to it! | |||
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"Not sure if this has been asked before - if so, I would welcome if somebody could signpost me to the relevant thread. Who has heard about this because I have not seen it on the News but when a friend told me about it I googled it and was rather surprised.I think its a great idea to live and work within 15 minutes of where you live not practical but a great idea, this obviously can only apply to those people who work in offices and or dont need transport for work.
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Someone’s making that nonsense up to scare people. God knows why. Best to ignore them.In oxford under these new filters that will start in 2040, residents will be able to drive freely around their own neighbourhoods, but will be fined up to £70 for driving into other neighbourhoods. I wonder if they have to seek permission to cross the 6 zones that it will be divided into, it seems complicated doesnt it?
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"It's what we had when I was younger. Most shops just a walking distance from our house. Still remember it now and everyone knew everyone even the shop keepers. Big retail parks and the super markets destroyed communities. This is my opinion from what I remember Its a fact what you say!" It is all by Design to frament society at large. Look around you .and gage whats happening to the Structure that oncw bound us all together. There is an imposter amongst us all. Guess who and what? Or it is? It's a number between 75 and 79. We're doomed. Doomed!" Not 77?!  | |||
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"It's what we had when I was younger. Most shops just a walking distance from our house. Still remember it now and everyone knew everyone even the shop keepers. Big retail parks and the super markets destroyed communities. This is my opinion from what I remember Its a fact what you say!" It is all by Design to frament society at large. Look around you .and gage whats happening to the Structure that oncw bound us all together. There is an imposter amongst us all. Guess who and what? Or it is? It's a number between 75 and 79. We're doomed. Doomed! Not 77?! "ssssh. don't tell anyone. it's a secret. only the very special super special top minds of the world can find out. ssshhh. | |||
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"It's what we had when I was younger. Most shops just a walking distance from our house. Still remember it now and everyone knew everyone even the shop keepers. Big retail parks and the super markets destroyed communities. This is my opinion from what I remember Its a fact what you say!" It is all by Design to frament society at large. Look around you .and gage whats happening to the Structure that oncw bound us all together. There is an imposter amongst us all. Guess who and what? Or it is? It's a number between 75 and 79. We're doomed. Doomed! Not 77?!
ssssh. don't tell anyone. it's a secret. only the very special super special top minds of the world can find out. ssshhh."Phew. I'm glad you warned me. I was about to go out wearing my sheeple hat with 77 knitted on it. | |||
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"It's what we had when I was younger. Most shops just a walking distance from our house. Still remember it now and everyone knew everyone even the shop keepers. Big retail parks and the super markets destroyed communities. This is my opinion from what I remember Its a fact what you say!" It is all by Design to frament society at large. Look around you .and gage whats happening to the Structure that oncw bound us all together. There is an imposter amongst us all. Guess who and what? Or it is? It's a number between 75 and 79. We're doomed. Doomed! Not 77?!
ssssh. don't tell anyone. it's a secret. only the very special super special top minds of the world can find out. ssshhh.
Phew. I'm glad you warned me. I was about to go out wearing my sheeple hat with 77 knitted on it."Silly you. You should never leave the house without your tin foil hat, everyone knows that. | |||
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"I can't imagine anything more horrendous than living within 15 minutes walking distance of everything and everyone else. We don't even live within 15 minutes walk to our nearest neighbour, and we like it just fine that way." It refers to city planning. I don't think they're going to shove a Sainsbury's in your forest...... | |||
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"It's what we had when I was younger. Most shops just a walking distance from our house. Still remember it now and everyone knew everyone even the shop keepers. Big retail parks and the super markets destroyed communities. This is my opinion from what I remember Its a fact what you say!" It is all by Design to frament society at large. Look around you .and gage whats happening to the Structure that oncw bound us all together. There is an imposter amongst us all. Guess who and what? Or it is? It's a number between 75 and 79. We're doomed. Doomed! Not 77?!
ssssh. don't tell anyone. it's a secret. only the very special super special top minds of the world can find out. ssshhh.
Phew. I'm glad you warned me. I was about to go out wearing my sheeple hat with 77 knitted on it."The sheeple don't know anything about the 77th. Asleeple sheeple. baa. | |||
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Someone’s making that nonsense up to scare people. God knows why. Best to ignore them.In oxford under these new filters that will start in 2040, residents will be able to drive freely around their own neighbourhoods, but will be fined up to £70 for driving into other neighbourhoods. I wonder if they have to seek permission to cross the 6 zones that it will be divided into, it seems complicated doesnt it?
Most london Boroughs are being rearranged into this. By 2030 full flow.
Herded and otherwise. Re-set and master plan.
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"It's what we had when I was younger. Most shops just a walking distance from our house. Still remember it now and everyone knew everyone even the shop keepers. Big retail parks and the super markets destroyed communities. This is my opinion from what I remember Its a fact what you say!" It is all by Design to frament society at large. Look around you .and gage whats happening to the Structure that oncw bound us all together. There is an imposter amongst us all. Guess who and what? Or it is? It's a number between 75 and 79. We're doomed. Doomed!" Yes "D" | |||
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"It's what we had when I was younger. Most shops just a walking distance from our house. Still remember it now and everyone knew everyone even the shop keepers. Big retail parks and the super markets destroyed communities. This is my opinion from what I remember Its a fact what you say!" It is all by Design to frament society at large. Look around you .and gage whats happening to the Structure that oncw bound us all together. There is an imposter amongst us all. Guess who and what? Or it is? " (points finger) it's him over there... Down with this sort of thing | |||
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"It's what we had when I was younger. Most shops just a walking distance from our house. Still remember it now and everyone knew everyone even the shop keepers. Big retail parks and the super markets destroyed communities. This is my opinion from what I remember Its a fact what you say!" It is all by Design to frament society at large. Look around you .and gage whats happening to the Structure that oncw bound us all together. There is an imposter amongst us all. Guess who and what? Or it is? (points finger) it's him over there... Down with this sort of thing" I don't know why, but the image I have in my head is Brian (from The Life of) up at the wall being forced to correct his Latin | |||
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"It's what we had when I was younger. Most shops just a walking distance from our house. Still remember it now and everyone knew everyone even the shop keepers. Big retail parks and the super markets destroyed communities. This is my opinion from what I remember Its a fact what you say!" It is all by Design to frament society at large. Look around you .and gage whats happening to the Structure that oncw bound us all together. There is an imposter amongst us all. Guess who and what? Or it is? (points finger) it's him over there... Down with this sort of thing I don't know why, but the image I have in my head is Brian (from The Life of) up at the wall being forced to correct his Latin" I think down with this sort of thing was from a Father Ted episode. I've got an image of that in my head, anyway. | |||
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"It's what we had when I was younger. Most shops just a walking distance from our house. Still remember it now and everyone knew everyone even the shop keepers. Big retail parks and the super markets destroyed communities. This is my opinion from what I remember Its a fact what you say!" It is all by Design to frament society at large. Look around you .and gage whats happening to the Structure that oncw bound us all together. There is an imposter amongst us all. Guess who and what? Or it is? (points finger) it's him over there... Down with this sort of thing I don't know why, but the image I have in my head is Brian (from The Life of) up at the wall being forced to correct his Latin I think down with this sort of thing was from a Father Ted episode. I've got an image of that in my head, anyway. These are small... Those are far away" Yup definitely Ted lol | |||
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"Oxford has been hijacked by a bunch of lunatics like Piers Corbyn and Laurence Fox who seem to believe that this is part of a dystopia future of climate change lockdowns and conspiracy theorists are convinced it is part of the 'great reset'. Obviously if asked what the great reset is they can't explain and go fir a derisory 'do your own research' but i digress. The reality is far more sensible and seems to want to promote sustainable transport and a move away from car reliability while improving local amenities. Not sure why people are so angry about that I am not angry about it at the moment - really just concerned that this seems to be going on without people being informed. I get the principle idea of sharing resources and reducing impact on environments etc but there should be a degree of informing the public and in some cases seeking consultation? " Where they are being proposed there is full local consultation … | |||
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"It's what we had when I was younger. Most shops just a walking distance from our house. Still remember it now and everyone knew everyone even the shop keepers. Big retail parks and the super markets destroyed communities. This is my opinion from what I remember Its a fact what you say!" It is all by Design to frament society at large. Look around you .and gage whats happening to the Structure that oncw bound us all together. There is an imposter amongst us all. Guess who and what? Or it is? It's a number between 75 and 79. We're doomed. Doomed! Not 77?!
ssssh. don't tell anyone. it's a secret. only the very special super special top minds of the world can find out. ssshhh.
Phew. I'm glad you warned me. I was about to go out wearing my sheeple hat with 77 knitted on it.
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"I was told that there would be a charge of £75 and a restriction on frequency - I have not seen evidence yet but it is being discussed and no, not necessarily by conspiracy theorists .
Someone’s making that nonsense up to scare people. God knows why. Best to ignore them.In oxford under these new filters that will start in 2040, residents will be able to drive freely around their own neighbourhoods, but will be fined up to £70 for driving into other neighbourhoods. I wonder if they have to seek permission to cross the 6 zones that it will be divided into, it seems complicated doesnt it?
Most london Boroughs are being rearranged into this. By 2030 full flow.
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ssssh. don't tell anyone. it's a secret. only the very special super special top minds of the world can find out. ssshhh.
Phew. I'm glad you warned me. I was about to go out wearing my sheeple hat with 77 knitted on it.
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"Oxford has been hijacked by a bunch of lunatics like Piers Corbyn and Laurence Fox who seem to believe that this is part of a dystopia future of climate change lockdowns and conspiracy theorists are convinced it is part of the 'great reset'. Obviously if asked what the great reset is they can't explain and go fir a derisory 'do your own research' but i digress. The reality is far more sensible and seems to want to promote sustainable transport and a move away from car reliability while improving local amenities. Not sure why people are so angry about that I am not angry about it at the moment - really just concerned that this seems to be going on without people being informed. I get the principle idea of sharing resources and reducing impact on environments etc but there should be a degree of informing the public and in some cases seeking consultation? Where they are being proposed there is full local consultation …" You are saying there has been full local consultation in Oxford? Might I suggest absolutely not.? Given that most local people have no idea what is being proposed or why or what the impact is going to be on them. | |||
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"I was told that there would be a charge of £75 and a restriction on frequency - I have not seen evidence yet but it is being discussed and no, not necessarily by conspiracy theorists .
Someone’s making that nonsense up to scare people. God knows why. Best to ignore them.In oxford under these new filters that will start in 2040, residents will be able to drive freely around their own neighbourhoods, but will be fined up to £70 for driving into other neighbourhoods. I wonder if they have to seek permission to cross the 6 zones that it will be divided into, it seems complicated doesnt it?
Most london Boroughs are being rearranged into this. By 2030 full flow.
Herded and otherwise. Re-set and master plan.
What do you mean by reset and master plan?
Researce it. "Can yiy not just summarise what the great reset is and how thos impacts on it? | |||
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"I was told that there would be a charge of £75 and a restriction on frequency - I have not seen evidence yet but it is being discussed and no, not necessarily by conspiracy theorists .
Someone’s making that nonsense up to scare people. God knows why. Best to ignore them.In oxford under these new filters that will start in 2040, residents will be able to drive freely around their own neighbourhoods, but will be fined up to £70 for driving into other neighbourhoods. I wonder if they have to seek permission to cross the 6 zones that it will be divided into, it seems complicated doesnt it?
Most london Boroughs are being rearranged into this. By 2030 full flow.
Herded and otherwise. Re-set and master plan.
What do you mean by reset and master plan?
Researce it.
Can yiy not just summarise what the great reset is and how thos impacts on it?"Google!' Thats what its for. Lazy . | |||
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"I was told that there would be a charge of £75 and a restriction on frequency - I have not seen evidence yet but it is being discussed and no, not necessarily by conspiracy theorists .
Someone’s making that nonsense up to scare people. God knows why. Best to ignore them.In oxford under these new filters that will start in 2040, residents will be able to drive freely around their own neighbourhoods, but will be fined up to £70 for driving into other neighbourhoods. I wonder if they have to seek permission to cross the 6 zones that it will be divided into, it seems complicated doesnt it?
Most london Boroughs are being rearranged into this. By 2030 full flow.
Herded and otherwise. Re-set and master plan.
Good grief …hope you’re joking ! No one’s stopping you going anywhere …."Yeah iam jokeing!"Billy Connely style! Whos seen that vid. Goerdie take of scotsman?? Well cracks me up big time. | |||
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"I was told that there would be a charge of £75 and a restriction on frequency - I have not seen evidence yet but it is being discussed and no, not necessarily by conspiracy theorists .
Someone’s making that nonsense up to scare people. God knows why. Best to ignore them.In oxford under these new filters that will start in 2040, residents will be able to drive freely around their own neighbourhoods, but will be fined up to £70 for driving into other neighbourhoods. I wonder if they have to seek permission to cross the 6 zones that it will be divided into, it seems complicated doesnt it?
Most london Boroughs are being rearranged into this. By 2030 full flow.
Herded and otherwise. Re-set and master plan.
What do you mean by reset and master plan?
Researce it.
Can yiy not just summarise what the great reset is and how thos impacts on it?
Google!' Thats what its for. Lazy . "Google won't tell us your understanding of it. Nor the particular angle you take. This isn't school, it's a conversation. | |||
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"I was told that there would be a charge of £75 and a restriction on frequency - I have not seen evidence yet but it is being discussed and no, not necessarily by conspiracy theorists .
Someone’s making that nonsense up to scare people. God knows why. Best to ignore them.In oxford under these new filters that will start in 2040, residents will be able to drive freely around their own neighbourhoods, but will be fined up to £70 for driving into other neighbourhoods. I wonder if they have to seek permission to cross the 6 zones that it will be divided into, it seems complicated doesnt it?
Most london Boroughs are being rearranged into this. By 2030 full flow.
Herded and otherwise. Re-set and master plan.
Good grief …hope you’re joking ! No one’s stopping you going anywhere ….
Yeah iam jokeing!"Billy Connely style!
Whos seen that vid. Goerdie take of scotsman??
Well cracks me up big time. "Man Like Hacks. Scotsman!! | |||
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"I was told that there would be a charge of £75 and a restriction on frequency - I have not seen evidence yet but it is being discussed and no, not necessarily by conspiracy theorists .
Someone’s making that nonsense up to scare people. God knows why. Best to ignore them.In oxford under these new filters that will start in 2040, residents will be able to drive freely around their own neighbourhoods, but will be fined up to £70 for driving into other neighbourhoods. I wonder if they have to seek permission to cross the 6 zones that it will be divided into, it seems complicated doesnt it?
Most london Boroughs are being rearranged into this. By 2030 full flow.
Herded and otherwise. Re-set and master plan.
What do you mean by reset and master plan?
Researce it.
Can yiy not just summarise what the great reset is and how thos impacts on it?
Google!' Thats what its for. Lazy .
Google won't tell us your understanding of it. Nor the particular angle you take.
This isn't school, it's a conversation." | |||
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"I was told that there would be a charge of £75 and a restriction on frequency - I have not seen evidence yet but it is being discussed and no, not necessarily by conspiracy theorists .
Someone’s making that nonsense up to scare people. God knows why. Best to ignore them.In oxford under these new filters that will start in 2040, residents will be able to drive freely around their own neighbourhoods, but will be fined up to £70 for driving into other neighbourhoods. I wonder if they have to seek permission to cross the 6 zones that it will be divided into, it seems complicated doesnt it?
Most london Boroughs are being rearranged into this. By 2030 full flow.
Herded and otherwise. Re-set and master plan.
What do you mean by reset and master plan?
Researce it.
Can yiy not just summarise what the great reset is and how thos impacts on it?
Google!' Thats what its for. Lazy .
Google won't tell us your understanding of it. Nor the particular angle you take.
This isn't school, it's a conversation."You move it along the conversation, il butt in here and there!! 1,2,3 go. Iam waiting. | |||
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"I was told that there would be a charge of £75 and a restriction on frequency - I have not seen evidence yet but it is being discussed and no, not necessarily by conspiracy theorists .
Someone’s making that nonsense up to scare people. God knows why. Best to ignore them.In oxford under these new filters that will start in 2040, residents will be able to drive freely around their own neighbourhoods, but will be fined up to £70 for driving into other neighbourhoods. I wonder if they have to seek permission to cross the 6 zones that it will be divided into, it seems complicated doesnt it?
Most london Boroughs are being rearranged into this. By 2030 full flow.
Herded and otherwise. Re-set and master plan.
What do you mean by reset and master plan?
Researce it.
Can yiy not just summarise what the great reset is and how thos impacts on it?
Google!' Thats what its for. Lazy .
Google won't tell us your understanding of it. Nor the particular angle you take.
This isn't school, it's a conversation.
You move it along the conversation, il butt in here and there!!
1,2,3 go. Iam waiting. "Inaswinggypsydress! | |||
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"I was told that there would be a charge of £75 and a restriction on frequency - I have not seen evidence yet but it is being discussed and no, not necessarily by conspiracy theorists .
Someone’s making that nonsense up to scare people. God knows why. Best to ignore them.In oxford under these new filters that will start in 2040, residents will be able to drive freely around their own neighbourhoods, but will be fined up to £70 for driving into other neighbourhoods. I wonder if they have to seek permission to cross the 6 zones that it will be divided into, it seems complicated doesnt it?
Most london Boroughs are being rearranged into this. By 2030 full flow.
Herded and otherwise. Re-set and master plan.
What do you mean by reset and master plan?
Researce it.
Can yiy not just summarise what the great reset is and how thos impacts on it?
Google!' Thats what its for. Lazy .
Google won't tell us your understanding of it. Nor the particular angle you take.
This isn't school, it's a conversation. "So... Tell us your understanding of what the Great Reset is and what you think it'll do? If you agree with me, then you agree that that's the best way to move forward. Unless you misunderstood what I said? | |||
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"I was told that there would be a charge of £75 and a restriction on frequency - I have not seen evidence yet but it is being discussed and no, not necessarily by conspiracy theorists .
Someone’s making that nonsense up to scare people. God knows why. Best to ignore them.In oxford under these new filters that will start in 2040, residents will be able to drive freely around their own neighbourhoods, but will be fined up to £70 for driving into other neighbourhoods. I wonder if they have to seek permission to cross the 6 zones that it will be divided into, it seems complicated doesnt it?
Most london Boroughs are being rearranged into this. By 2030 full flow.
Herded and otherwise. Re-set and master plan.
What do you mean by reset and master plan?
Researce it.
Can yiy not just summarise what the great reset is and how thos impacts on it?
Google!' Thats what its for. Lazy .
Google won't tell us your understanding of it. Nor the particular angle you take.
This isn't school, it's a conversation.
You move it along the conversation, il butt in here and there!!
1,2,3 go. Iam waiting. "Waiting for what? I would also like an explanation of your ideas, in order to clear up what you're talking about. I find that the cry of "do your own research" is a deflection from those unwilling or unable to defend their ideas I don't give a fuck what Google says. It's about what you think. | |||
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"I was told that there would be a charge of £75 and a restriction on frequency - I have not seen evidence yet but it is being discussed and no, not necessarily by conspiracy theorists .
Someone’s making that nonsense up to scare people. God knows why. Best to ignore them.In oxford under these new filters that will start in 2040, residents will be able to drive freely around their own neighbourhoods, but will be fined up to £70 for driving into other neighbourhoods. I wonder if they have to seek permission to cross the 6 zones that it will be divided into, it seems complicated doesnt it?
Most london Boroughs are being rearranged into this. By 2030 full flow.
Herded and otherwise. Re-set and master plan.
What do you mean by reset and master plan?
Researce it.
Can yiy not just summarise what the great reset is and how thos impacts on it?
Google!' Thats what its for. Lazy .
Google won't tell us your understanding of it. Nor the particular angle you take.
This isn't school, it's a conversation.
So... Tell us your understanding of what the Great Reset is and what you think it'll do?
If you agree with me, then you agree that that's the best way to move forward. Unless you misunderstood what I said?"Agree to what? | |||
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"I was told that there would be a charge of £75 and a restriction on frequency - I have not seen evidence yet but it is being discussed and no, not necessarily by conspiracy theorists .
Someone’s making that nonsense up to scare people. God knows why. Best to ignore them.In oxford under these new filters that will start in 2040, residents will be able to drive freely around their own neighbourhoods, but will be fined up to £70 for driving into other neighbourhoods. I wonder if they have to seek permission to cross the 6 zones that it will be divided into, it seems complicated doesnt it?
Most london Boroughs are being rearranged into this. By 2030 full flow.
Herded and otherwise. Re-set and master plan.
What do you mean by reset and master plan?
Researce it.
Can yiy not just summarise what the great reset is and how thos impacts on it?
Google!' Thats what its for. Lazy .
Google won't tell us your understanding of it. Nor the particular angle you take.
This isn't school, it's a conversation.
You move it along the conversation, il butt in here and there!!
1,2,3 go. Iam waiting.
Waiting for what?
I would also like an explanation of your ideas, in order to clear up what you're talking about.
I find that the cry of "do your own research" is a deflection from those unwilling or unable to defend their ideas
I don't give a fuck what Google says. It's about what you think."You do give a Fuck really! Dont you? Your forceing the issue. | |||
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"I was told that there would be a charge of £75 and a restriction on frequency - I have not seen evidence yet but it is being discussed and no, not necessarily by conspiracy theorists .
Someone’s making that nonsense up to scare people. God knows why. Best to ignore them.In oxford under these new filters that will start in 2040, residents will be able to drive freely around their own neighbourhoods, but will be fined up to £70 for driving into other neighbourhoods. I wonder if they have to seek permission to cross the 6 zones that it will be divided into, it seems complicated doesnt it?
Most london Boroughs are being rearranged into this. By 2030 full flow.
Herded and otherwise. Re-set and master plan.
What do you mean by reset and master plan?
Researce it.
Can yiy not just summarise what the great reset is and how thos impacts on it?
Google!' Thats what its for. Lazy . "I understand how Google works. But I can't Google your thoughts and understanding of how this fits in with the great reset? | |||
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"I was told that there would be a charge of £75 and a restriction on frequency - I have not seen evidence yet but it is being discussed and no, not necessarily by conspiracy theorists .
Someone’s making that nonsense up to scare people. God knows why. Best to ignore them.In oxford under these new filters that will start in 2040, residents will be able to drive freely around their own neighbourhoods, but will be fined up to £70 for driving into other neighbourhoods. I wonder if they have to seek permission to cross the 6 zones that it will be divided into, it seems complicated doesnt it?
Most london Boroughs are being rearranged into this. By 2030 full flow.
Herded and otherwise. Re-set and master plan.
What do you mean by reset and master plan?
Researce it.
Can yiy not just summarise what the great reset is and how thos impacts on it?
Google!' Thats what its for. Lazy .
Google won't tell us your understanding of it. Nor the particular angle you take.
This isn't school, it's a conversation.
You move it along the conversation, il butt in here and there!!
1,2,3 go. Iam waiting.
Waiting for what?
I would also like an explanation of your ideas, in order to clear up what you're talking about.
I find that the cry of "do your own research" is a deflection from those unwilling or unable to defend their ideas
I don't give a fuck what Google says. It's about what you think.
You do give a Fuck really! Dont you? Your forceing the issue.
"No, I don't give a fuck what Google says. Or DuckDuckGo or any other search engine or site. I care about what you think, because you are the one I'm conversing with. | |||
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"I was told that there would be a charge of £75 and a restriction on frequency - I have not seen evidence yet but it is being discussed and no, not necessarily by conspiracy theorists .
Someone’s making that nonsense up to scare people. God knows why. Best to ignore them.In oxford under these new filters that will start in 2040, residents will be able to drive freely around their own neighbourhoods, but will be fined up to £70 for driving into other neighbourhoods. I wonder if they have to seek permission to cross the 6 zones that it will be divided into, it seems complicated doesnt it?
Most london Boroughs are being rearranged into this. By 2030 full flow.
Herded and otherwise. Re-set and master plan.
What do you mean by reset and master plan?
Researce it.
Can yiy not just summarise what the great reset is and how thos impacts on it?
Google!' Thats what its for. Lazy .
I understand how Google works. But I can't Google your thoughts and understanding of how this fits in with the great reset?" | |||
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"I was told that there would be a charge of £75 and a restriction on frequency - I have not seen evidence yet but it is being discussed and no, not necessarily by conspiracy theorists .
Someone’s making that nonsense up to scare people. God knows why. Best to ignore them.In oxford under these new filters that will start in 2040, residents will be able to drive freely around their own neighbourhoods, but will be fined up to £70 for driving into other neighbourhoods. I wonder if they have to seek permission to cross the 6 zones that it will be divided into, it seems complicated doesnt it?
Most london Boroughs are being rearranged into this. By 2030 full flow.
Herded and otherwise. Re-set and master plan.
What do you mean by reset and master plan?
Researce it.
Can yiy not just summarise what the great reset is and how thos impacts on it?
Google!' Thats what its for. Lazy .
Google won't tell us your understanding of it. Nor the particular angle you take.
This isn't school, it's a conversation.
You move it along the conversation, il butt in here and there!!
1,2,3 go. Iam waiting.
Waiting for what?
I would also like an explanation of your ideas, in order to clear up what you're talking about.
I find that the cry of "do your own research" is a deflection from those unwilling or unable to defend their ideas
I don't give a fuck what Google says. It's about what you think.
You do give a Fuck really! Dont you? Your forceing the issue.
No, I don't give a fuck what Google says. Or DuckDuckGo or any other search engine or site.
I care about what you think, because you are the one I'm conversing with."You swearing again!! You know what you are? And what you can do... | |||
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"I was told that there would be a charge of £75 and a restriction on frequency - I have not seen evidence yet but it is being discussed and no, not necessarily by conspiracy theorists .
Someone’s making that nonsense up to scare people. God knows why. Best to ignore them.In oxford under these new filters that will start in 2040, residents will be able to drive freely around their own neighbourhoods, but will be fined up to £70 for driving into other neighbourhoods. I wonder if they have to seek permission to cross the 6 zones that it will be divided into, it seems complicated doesnt it?
Most london Boroughs are being rearranged into this. By 2030 full flow.
Herded and otherwise. Re-set and master plan.
What do you mean by reset and master plan?
Researce it.
Can yiy not just summarise what the great reset is and how thos impacts on it?
Google!' Thats what its for. Lazy .
Google won't tell us your understanding of it. Nor the particular angle you take.
This isn't school, it's a conversation.
You move it along the conversation, il butt in here and there!!
1,2,3 go. Iam waiting.
Waiting for what?
I would also like an explanation of your ideas, in order to clear up what you're talking about.
I find that the cry of "do your own research" is a deflection from those unwilling or unable to defend their ideas
I don't give a fuck what Google says. It's about what you think.
You do give a Fuck really! Dont you? Your forceing the issue.
No, I don't give a fuck what Google says. Or DuckDuckGo or any other search engine or site.
I care about what you think, because you are the one I'm conversing with.
You swearing again!! You know what you are? And what you can do...
"I'm a person? With a vocabulary that includes *vapours* profanity on *smelling salt* a sexually explicit site! Meanwhile, I'm interested in your views about what the Great Reset is and why you think it will be significant in our lives. Google, as we've established, won't tell us what *you* think. | |||
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"I was told that there would be a charge of £75 and a restriction on frequency - I have not seen evidence yet but it is being discussed and no, not necessarily by conspiracy theorists .
Someone’s making that nonsense up to scare people. God knows why. Best to ignore them.In oxford under these new filters that will start in 2040, residents will be able to drive freely around their own neighbourhoods, but will be fined up to £70 for driving into other neighbourhoods. I wonder if they have to seek permission to cross the 6 zones that it will be divided into, it seems complicated doesnt it?
Most london Boroughs are being rearranged into this. By 2030 full flow.
Herded and otherwise. Re-set and master plan.
What do you mean by reset and master plan?
Researce it.
Can yiy not just summarise what the great reset is and how thos impacts on it?
Google!' Thats what its for. Lazy .
Google won't tell us your understanding of it. Nor the particular angle you take.
This isn't school, it's a conversation.
You move it along the conversation, il butt in here and there!!
1,2,3 go. Iam waiting.
Waiting for what?
I would also like an explanation of your ideas, in order to clear up what you're talking about.
I find that the cry of "do your own research" is a deflection from those unwilling or unable to defend their ideas
I don't give a fuck what Google says. It's about what you think.
You do give a Fuck really! Dont you? Your forceing the issue.
No, I don't give a fuck what Google says. Or DuckDuckGo or any other search engine or site.
I care about what you think, because you are the one I'm conversing with.
You swearing again!! You know what you are? And what you can do...
I'm a person? With a vocabulary that includes *vapours* profanity on *smelling salt* a sexually explicit site!
Meanwhile, I'm interested in your views about what the Great Reset is and why you think it will be significant in our lives. Google, as we've established, won't tell us what *you* think.". | |||
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"I was told that there would be a charge of £75 and a restriction on frequency - I have not seen evidence yet but it is being discussed and no, not necessarily by conspiracy theorists .
Someone’s making that nonsense up to scare people. God knows why. Best to ignore them.In oxford under these new filters that will start in 2040, residents will be able to drive freely around their own neighbourhoods, but will be fined up to £70 for driving into other neighbourhoods. I wonder if they have to seek permission to cross the 6 zones that it will be divided into, it seems complicated doesnt it?
Most london Boroughs are being rearranged into this. By 2030 full flow.
Herded and otherwise. Re-set and master plan.
What do you mean by reset and master plan?
Researce it.
Can yiy not just summarise what the great reset is and how thos impacts on it?
Google!' Thats what its for. Lazy .
Google won't tell us your understanding of it. Nor the particular angle you take.
This isn't school, it's a conversation.
You move it along the conversation, il butt in here and there!!
1,2,3 go. Iam waiting.
Waiting for what?
I would also like an explanation of your ideas, in order to clear up what you're talking about.
I find that the cry of "do your own research" is a deflection from those unwilling or unable to defend their ideas
I don't give a fuck what Google says. It's about what you think.
You do give a Fuck really! Dont you? Your forceing the issue.
No, I don't give a fuck what Google says. Or DuckDuckGo or any other search engine or site.
I care about what you think, because you are the one I'm conversing with.
You swearing again!! You know what you are? And what you can do...
I'm a person? With a vocabulary that includes *vapours* profanity on *smelling salt* a sexually explicit site!
Meanwhile, I'm interested in your views about what the Great Reset is and why you think it will be significant in our lives. Google, as we've established, won't tell us what *you* think.."Give him a sec to google | |||
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"I was told that there would be a charge of £75 and a restriction on frequency - I have not seen evidence yet but it is being discussed and no, not necessarily by conspiracy theorists .
Someone’s making that nonsense up to scare people. God knows why. Best to ignore them.In oxford under these new filters that will start in 2040, residents will be able to drive freely around their own neighbourhoods, but will be fined up to £70 for driving into other neighbourhoods. I wonder if they have to seek permission to cross the 6 zones that it will be divided into, it seems complicated doesnt it?
Most london Boroughs are being rearranged into this. By 2030 full flow.
Herded and otherwise. Re-set and master plan.
What do you mean by reset and master plan?
Researce it.
Can yiy not just summarise what the great reset is and how thos impacts on it?
Google!' Thats what its for. Lazy .
Google won't tell us your understanding of it. Nor the particular angle you take.
This isn't school, it's a conversation.
You move it along the conversation, il butt in here and there!!
1,2,3 go. Iam waiting.
Waiting for what?
I would also like an explanation of your ideas, in order to clear up what you're talking about.
I find that the cry of "do your own research" is a deflection from those unwilling or unable to defend their ideas
I don't give a fuck what Google says. It's about what you think.
You do give a Fuck really! Dont you? Your forceing the issue.
No, I don't give a fuck what Google says. Or DuckDuckGo or any other search engine or site.
I care about what you think, because you are the one I'm conversing with.
You swearing again!! You know what you are? And what you can do...
I'm a person? With a vocabulary that includes *vapours* profanity on *smelling salt* a sexually explicit site!
Meanwhile, I'm interested in your views about what the Great Reset is and why you think it will be significant in our lives. Google, as we've established, won't tell us what *you* think.."Thinking is very over rated. | |||
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"The reason I am bringing this up on here: A colleague told me about it during a work conversation this morning as apparently Solihull will be rolling it out. There are many other cities that consider it right now and my concern is why we are not hearing about this in the news? If you google it there is plenty of material under this title or the "20 minute neighbourhood" scheme. Not a conspiracy follower but curious why this is not more widely known/ made known!" It’s not the idea of having everything you need within 15 minutes that most people have a problem with, it’s the restriction of movement that comes with it. Low traffic neighbourhoods, and only being allowed to drive outside of your 15 minute city 100 times a year and needing to be registered to be allowed, and if a 2 car family 50 times each otherwise be subject to fines. They’re doing it in Canterbury apparently. ] | |||
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"The reason I am bringing this up on here: A colleague told me about it during a work conversation this morning as apparently Solihull will be rolling it out. There are many other cities that consider it right now and my concern is why we are not hearing about this in the news? If you google it there is plenty of material under this title or the "20 minute neighbourhood" scheme. Not a conspiracy follower but curious why this is not more widely known/ made known! It’s not the idea of having everything you need within 15 minutes that most people have a problem with, it’s the restriction of movement that comes with it. Low traffic neighbourhoods, and only being allowed to drive outside of your 15 minute city 100 times a year and needing to be registered to be allowed, and if a 2 car family 50 times each otherwise be subject to fines. They’re doing it in Canterbury apparently. ]" There is no restriction of movement. | |||
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"The reason I am bringing this up on here: A colleague told me about it during a work conversation this morning as apparently Solihull will be rolling it out. There are many other cities that consider it right now and my concern is why we are not hearing about this in the news? If you google it there is plenty of material under this title or the "20 minute neighbourhood" scheme. Not a conspiracy follower but curious why this is not more widely known/ made known! It’s not the idea of having everything you need within 15 minutes that most people have a problem with, it’s the restriction of movement that comes with it. Low traffic neighbourhoods, and only being allowed to drive outside of your 15 minute city 100 times a year and needing to be registered to be allowed, and if a 2 car family 50 times each otherwise be subject to fines. They’re doing it in Canterbury apparently. ] There is no restriction of movement. " There is if you drive. | |||
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"Oxford has been hijacked by a bunch of lunatics like Piers Corbyn and Laurence Fox who seem to believe that this is part of a dystopia future of climate change lockdowns and conspiracy theorists are convinced it is part of the 'great reset'. Obviously if asked what the great reset is they can't explain and go fir a derisory 'do your own research' but i digress. The reality is far more sensible and seems to want to promote sustainable transport and a move away from car reliability while improving local amenities. Not sure why people are so angry about that I am not angry about it at the moment - really just concerned that this seems to be going on without people being informed. I get the principle idea of sharing resources and reducing impact on environments etc but there should be a degree of informing the public and in some cases seeking consultation? Where they are being proposed there is full local consultation … You are saying there has been full local consultation in Oxford? Might I suggest absolutely not.? Given that most local people have no idea what is being proposed or why or what the impact is going to be on them. " Yes, full consultation. Info was made public …it was in local election manifestos as well …short of speaking to every person individually im not sure what more the council could do ! | |||
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"The reason I am bringing this up on here: A colleague told me about it during a work conversation this morning as apparently Solihull will be rolling it out. There are many other cities that consider it right now and my concern is why we are not hearing about this in the news? If you google it there is plenty of material under this title or the "20 minute neighbourhood" scheme. Not a conspiracy follower but curious why this is not more widely known/ made known! It’s not the idea of having everything you need within 15 minutes that most people have a problem with, it’s the restriction of movement that comes with it. Low traffic neighbourhoods, and only being allowed to drive outside of your 15 minute city 100 times a year and needing to be registered to be allowed, and if a 2 car family 50 times each otherwise be subject to fines. They’re doing it in Canterbury apparently. ] There is no restriction of movement. " Yes there is if you want to use your car. | |||
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"The reason I am bringing this up on here: A colleague told me about it during a work conversation this morning as apparently Solihull will be rolling it out. There are many other cities that consider it right now and my concern is why we are not hearing about this in the news? If you google it there is plenty of material under this title or the "20 minute neighbourhood" scheme. Not a conspiracy follower but curious why this is not more widely known/ made known! It’s not the idea of having everything you need within 15 minutes that most people have a problem with, it’s the restriction of movement that comes with it. Low traffic neighbourhoods, and only being allowed to drive outside of your 15 minute city 100 times a year and needing to be registered to be allowed, and if a 2 car family 50 times each otherwise be subject to fines. They’re doing it in Canterbury apparently. ] There is no restriction of movement. There is if you drive." So no restrictions on people. Glad we got that straight. Restrictions and payments for emissions zone apply …. | |||
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"The reason I am bringing this up on here: A colleague told me about it during a work conversation this morning as apparently Solihull will be rolling it out. There are many other cities that consider it right now and my concern is why we are not hearing about this in the news? If you google it there is plenty of material under this title or the "20 minute neighbourhood" scheme. Not a conspiracy follower but curious why this is not more widely known/ made known! It’s not the idea of having everything you need within 15 minutes that most people have a problem with, it’s the restriction of movement that comes with it. Low traffic neighbourhoods, and only being allowed to drive outside of your 15 minute city 100 times a year and needing to be registered to be allowed, and if a 2 car family 50 times each otherwise be subject to fines. They’re doing it in Canterbury apparently. ] There is no restriction of movement. " That's not true though is it? If you're only allowed to do something a limited number of times or with a fee or with registering it is by definition restricted. | |||
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"The reason I am bringing this up on here: A colleague told me about it during a work conversation this morning as apparently Solihull will be rolling it out. There are many other cities that consider it right now and my concern is why we are not hearing about this in the news? If you google it there is plenty of material under this title or the "20 minute neighbourhood" scheme. Not a conspiracy follower but curious why this is not more widely known/ made known! It’s not the idea of having everything you need within 15 minutes that most people have a problem with, it’s the restriction of movement that comes with it. Low traffic neighbourhoods, and only being allowed to drive outside of your 15 minute city 100 times a year and needing to be registered to be allowed, and if a 2 car family 50 times each otherwise be subject to fines. They’re doing it in Canterbury apparently. ] There is no restriction of movement. That's not true though is it? If you're only allowed to do something a limited number of times or with a fee or with registering it is by definition restricted. " There's no basis to the restriction. | |||
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"The reason I am bringing this up on here: A colleague told me about it during a work conversation this morning as apparently Solihull will be rolling it out. There are many other cities that consider it right now and my concern is why we are not hearing about this in the news? If you google it there is plenty of material under this title or the "20 minute neighbourhood" scheme. Not a conspiracy follower but curious why this is not more widely known/ made known! It’s not the idea of having everything you need within 15 minutes that most people have a problem with, it’s the restriction of movement that comes with it. Low traffic neighbourhoods, and only being allowed to drive outside of your 15 minute city 100 times a year and needing to be registered to be allowed, and if a 2 car family 50 times each otherwise be subject to fines. They’re doing it in Canterbury apparently. ] There is no restriction of movement. There is if you drive. So no restrictions on people. Glad we got that straight. Restrictions and payments for emissions zone apply …." Restrictions suck | |||
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"The reason I am bringing this up on here: A colleague told me about it during a work conversation this morning as apparently Solihull will be rolling it out. There are many other cities that consider it right now and my concern is why we are not hearing about this in the news? If you google it there is plenty of material under this title or the "20 minute neighbourhood" scheme. Not a conspiracy follower but curious why this is not more widely known/ made known! It’s not the idea of having everything you need within 15 minutes that most people have a problem with, it’s the restriction of movement that comes with it. Low traffic neighbourhoods, and only being allowed to drive outside of your 15 minute city 100 times a year and needing to be registered to be allowed, and if a 2 car family 50 times each otherwise be subject to fines. They’re doing it in Canterbury apparently. ] There is no restriction of movement. There is if you drive. So no restrictions on people. Glad we got that straight. Restrictions and payments for emissions zone apply …. Restrictions suck" Not when you understand the impacts of not having restrictions on motor vehicles…. | |||
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"I was told that there would be a charge of £75 and a restriction on frequency - I have not seen evidence yet but it is being discussed and no, not necessarily by conspiracy theorists .
Someone’s making that nonsense up to scare people. God knows why. Best to ignore them.In oxford under these new filters that will start in 2040, residents will be able to drive freely around their own neighbourhoods, but will be fined up to £70 for driving into other neighbourhoods. I wonder if they have to seek permission to cross the 6 zones that it will be divided into, it seems complicated doesnt it?
Most london Boroughs are being rearranged into this. By 2030 full flow.
Herded and otherwise. Re-set and master plan.
What do you mean by reset and master plan?
Researce it.
Can yiy not just summarise what the great reset is and how thos impacts on it?
Google!' Thats what its for. Lazy .
Google won't tell us your understanding of it. Nor the particular angle you take.
This isn't school, it's a conversation.
You move it along the conversation, il butt in here and there!!
1,2,3 go. Iam waiting.
Waiting for what?
I would also like an explanation of your ideas, in order to clear up what you're talking about.
I find that the cry of "do your own research" is a deflection from those unwilling or unable to defend their ideas
I don't give a fuck what Google says. It's about what you think.
You do give a Fuck really! Dont you? Your forceing the issue.
No, I don't give a fuck what Google says. Or DuckDuckGo or any other search engine or site.
I care about what you think, because you are the one I'm conversing with.
You swearing again!! You know what you are? And what you can do...
I'm a person? With a vocabulary that includes *vapours* profanity on *smelling salt* a sexually explicit site!
Meanwhile, I'm interested in your views about what the Great Reset is and why you think it will be significant in our lives. Google, as we've established, won't tell us what *you* think..
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"The reason I am bringing this up on here: A colleague told me about it during a work conversation this morning as apparently Solihull will be rolling it out. There are many other cities that consider it right now and my concern is why we are not hearing about this in the news? If you google it there is plenty of material under this title or the "20 minute neighbourhood" scheme. Not a conspiracy follower but curious why this is not more widely known/ made known! It’s not the idea of having everything you need within 15 minutes that most people have a problem with, it’s the restriction of movement that comes with it. Low traffic neighbourhoods, and only being allowed to drive outside of your 15 minute city 100 times a year and needing to be registered to be allowed, and if a 2 car family 50 times each otherwise be subject to fines. They’re doing it in Canterbury apparently. ]" The Oxford proposal quite clearly states that up to 3 cars can registered to one address and each eligible for 100 trips | |||
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"The reason I am bringing this up on here: A colleague told me about it during a work conversation this morning as apparently Solihull will be rolling it out. There are many other cities that consider it right now and my concern is why we are not hearing about this in the news? If you google it there is plenty of material under this title or the "20 minute neighbourhood" scheme. Not a conspiracy follower but curious why this is not more widely known/ made known! It’s not the idea of having everything you need within 15 minutes that most people have a problem with, it’s the restriction of movement that comes with it. Low traffic neighbourhoods, and only being allowed to drive outside of your 15 minute city 100 times a year and needing to be registered to be allowed, and if a 2 car family 50 times each otherwise be subject to fines. They’re doing it in Canterbury apparently. ] There is no restriction of movement. There is if you drive. So no restrictions on people. Glad we got that straight. Restrictions and payments for emissions zone apply …. Restrictions suck Not when you understand the impacts of not having restrictions on motor vehicles…." Oh well keep up the good work then.. | |||
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"The reason I am bringing this up on here: A colleague told me about it during a work conversation this morning as apparently Solihull will be rolling it out. There are many other cities that consider it right now and my concern is why we are not hearing about this in the news? If you google it there is plenty of material under this title or the "20 minute neighbourhood" scheme. Not a conspiracy follower but curious why this is not more widely known/ made known! It’s not the idea of having everything you need within 15 minutes that most people have a problem with, it’s the restriction of movement that comes with it. Low traffic neighbourhoods, and only being allowed to drive outside of your 15 minute city 100 times a year and needing to be registered to be allowed, and if a 2 car family 50 times each otherwise be subject to fines. They’re doing it in Canterbury apparently. ] The Oxford proposal quite clearly states that up to 3 cars can registered to one address and each eligible for 100 trips" I’ll buy 3 cars and use a different one each day. Problem solved… | |||
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"The reason I am bringing this up on here: A colleague told me about it during a work conversation this morning as apparently Solihull will be rolling it out. There are many other cities that consider it right now and my concern is why we are not hearing about this in the news? If you google it there is plenty of material under this title or the "20 minute neighbourhood" scheme. Not a conspiracy follower but curious why this is not more widely known/ made known! It’s not the idea of having everything you need within 15 minutes that most people have a problem with, it’s the restriction of movement that comes with it. Low traffic neighbourhoods, and only being allowed to drive outside of your 15 minute city 100 times a year and needing to be registered to be allowed, and if a 2 car family 50 times each otherwise be subject to fines. They’re doing it in Canterbury apparently. ] The Oxford proposal quite clearly states that up to 3 cars can registered to one address and each eligible for 100 trips" Where is this published ? | |||
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"It's notable that the debate has moved on from... "bloody nutters it's not happening its all nonsense" to... "it is being discussed for implementation but its a good thing because....and it's not a problem or restriction at all because..." " That's not what I said. | |||
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"Not sure if this has been asked before - if so, I would welcome if somebody could signpost me to the relevant thread. Who has heard about this because I have not seen it on the News but when a friend told me about it I googled it and was rather surprised." Before the thread gets too big. Original urban development idea by Prof Carlos Moreno. Subverted into a conspiracy theory aided by Jordan Peterson. Perfect example of a good idea being taken into the lands of fantasy by people with dishonest intent. | |||
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"Not sure if this has been asked before - if so, I would welcome if somebody could signpost me to the relevant thread. Who has heard about this because I have not seen it on the News but when a friend told me about it I googled it and was rather surprised. Before the thread gets too big. Original urban development idea by Prof Carlos Moreno. Subverted into a conspiracy theory aided by Jordan Peterson. Perfect example of a good idea being taken into the lands of fantasy by people with dishonest intent. " Or just an idea. Not necessarily a good one. | |||
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