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By *els_Bells OP Woman
over a year ago

with the moon n stars somewhere in gtr manc

This may get me a ban or pulled...

But, do you personally see fat/bbw's/big men as just fat and lazy individuals,

who are all thick, wont get a job etc?

I am a fat bird/woman whatever you want to call the likes of me.

Do you automatically think I am thick or lazy because I am unemployed?

To enlighten you, I worked from 14 to 28. So paid tax from 16. Then went to work in a shop when getting my a levels when I was 29. Then got a degree with a 'babe in arms'.

Can I get a job? Can I fuck. Even as a xmas temp in a shop all because I was good at computer systems and had a nice voice.

So all those in favour of getting help from the government etc if you are slim, is it right I get fuck all and told I am over qualified???

So all those fat bashers who think every fat person is lazy orvthick, think again.... Oh and get bent!

You know sweet FA

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By *ub bbwWoman
over a year ago

oldbury

Well said x

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By *els_Bells OP Woman
over a year ago

with the moon n stars somewhere in gtr manc

"Well said x"

Thank you. Been trying to be nice and not contraversial but we shall see lol x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well said. I've worked since I was 14 (Saturday's) worked all through studying for a levels and thankfully I'm lucky enough to have a decent job. So what if I'm fat with it! X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well said x

Thank you. Been trying to be nice and not contraversial but we shall see lol x"

This is what you were keeping quiet about? X

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By *plankyMan
over a year ago

Beeston

No. I have met some very intelligent, very motivated, very successful people in the larger sizes.

And would not assume either, that it is in any way indicative of being successful, intelligent etc. Shouldn't stereotype people.

In some cultures (tonga I believe, and also parts of central africa) "build" is used to symbolize power because it represents the ability to gather what is locally in short supply.

You're an example of what I mean. Takes a lot of character to get a degree after your 20s when you have a young child.

Can't see that this is controversial so you shouldn't get banned - you might get pulled ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry I don't see any fat people!!! and as for fat birds!! That was the turkey we had at Xmas.

If people are stupid enough to judge people from there size or anything else without taking the time to know that person then that's there own ignorance.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why would anyone equate physical stature with cerebral capacity....???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry I don't see the correlation between somebody's size and being able to get a job. Who is saying your lazy if you are a larger size and can't find employment?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I will be controversial and say goes for any size in any walk of life

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If people are stupid enough to judge people from there size or anything else without taking the time to know that person then that's there own ignorance.

Yes Rusty, this is what I am always explaining to ladies requesting VWE

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This may get me a ban or pulled...

But, do you personally see fat/bbw's/big men as just fat and lazy individuals,

who are all thick, wont get a job etc?

I am a fat bird/woman whatever you want to call the likes of me.

Do you automatically think I am thick or lazy because I am unemployed?

To enlighten you, I worked from 14 to 28. So paid tax from 16. Then went to work in a shop when getting my a levels when I was 29. Then got a degree with a 'babe in arms'.

Can I get a job? Can I fuck. Even as a xmas temp in a shop all because I was good at computer systems and had a nice voice.

So all those in favour of getting help from the government etc if you are slim, is it right I get fuck all and told I am over qualified???

So all those fat bashers who think every fat person is lazy orvthick, think again.... Oh and get bent!

You know sweet FA "

Well said. It seems lately that it is fast becoming a national sport to chuck insults and offend anyone is not like yourself simply to steer attention away from that persons own 'short comings'? God help us if we were all so bloody perfect!

And no, I do not assume that just because someone is overweight that they are lazy, or that they sit on the sofa all day watching Jeremy Kyle and wishing they were on it.

NEVER judge a book by it's cover... and.... Never assume anything are two 'mantras' a LOT of people could do with learning these days.

Gawd I feel better for that!

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Why would anyone equate physical stature with cerebral capacity....???"

There has been some research showing that a fat person is less likely to be appointed to a role if there is a thinner person that is also appointable. It was about 10 or more years ago and I can't remember the source right now. If I get time tomorrow I will see if I can dig it up.

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By *els_Bells OP Woman
over a year ago

with the moon n stars somewhere in gtr manc

I was 28 when I went back to school. Got an outstanding g.c.s.e and then the equivalent to 5 a levels and 2points off a first in my degree (without maternity leave) not that Im bragging lol

Just fed up of the smelly fat bashing threads.

We're not all lazy or not wanting jobs. There really isnt a happy medium in my case.

And this IS NOT a WOE IS ME thread, it is a simply dont be so fking judgemental thread

And yes you can come n see my qualifications if you dont believe a fat scouser could well be a bit intelligent.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hels.

everyone in the world is different size,height,weight etc.

if I get on with them I don't care.

be good sweet xx

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By *els_Bells OP Woman
over a year ago

with the moon n stars somewhere in gtr manc

"Sorry I don't see the correlation between somebody's size and being able to get a job. Who is saying your lazy if you are a larger size and can't find employment?"

Read other relevant threads.

I.E. Obesity and tax cuts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This may get me a ban or pulled...

But, do you personally see fat/bbw's/big men as just fat and lazy individuals,

who are all thick, wont get a job etc?

I am a fat bird/woman whatever you want to call the likes of me.

Do you automatically think I am thick or lazy because I am unemployed?

To enlighten you, I worked from 14 to 28. So paid tax from 16. Then went to work in a shop when getting my a levels when I was 29. Then got a degree with a 'babe in arms'.

Can I get a job? Can I fuck. Even as a xmas temp in a shop all because I was good at computer systems and had a nice voice.

So all those in favour of getting help from the government etc if you are slim, is it right I get fuck all and told I am over qualified???

So all those fat bashers who think every fat person is lazy orvthick, think again.... Oh and get bent!

You know sweet FA "

You are seeing the root cause of all your problems as you being overweight.

My advice? Test that theory. Go on a diet and lose enough weight that you'd be classed as 'fit', or a 'hottie' or even just slim, and see if it gets you a job.

You'll be surprised to learn that it wasn't the new you that got you a job, it was the new you that did it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well I wouldn't say fat people were inherently lazy although we are (I can't deny I am a little portly) less likely to nip to the gym, do a 10 mile run or cycle to work. I guess it all depends on your _iewpoint of lazy. In general though if someone was to say us chubbies are greedy it would be very hard to deny it.

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By *els_Bells OP Woman
over a year ago

with the moon n stars somewhere in gtr manc

"This may get me a ban or pulled...

But, do you personally see fat/bbw's/big men as just fat and lazy individuals,

who are all thick, wont get a job etc?

I am a fat bird/woman whatever you want to call the likes of me.

Do you automatically think I am thick or lazy because I am unemployed?

To enlighten you, I worked from 14 to 28. So paid tax from 16. Then went to work in a shop when getting my a levels when I was 29. Then got a degree with a 'babe in arms'.

Can I get a job? Can I fuck. Even as a xmas temp in a shop all because I was good at computer systems and had a nice voice.

So all those in favour of getting help from the government etc if you are slim, is it right I get fuck all and told I am over qualified???

So all those fat bashers who think every fat person is lazy orvthick, think again.... Oh and get bent!

You know sweet FA

And no, I do not assume that just because someone is overweight that they are lazy, or that they sit on the sofa all day watching Jeremy Kyle and wishing they were on it.

NEVER judge a book by it's cover... and.... Never assume anything are two 'mantras' a LOT of people could do with learning these days.

Gawd I feel better for that!

Cheers Pork x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I was 28 when I went back to school. Got an outstanding g.c.s.e and then the equivalent to 5 a levels and 2points off a first in my degree (without maternity leave) not that Im bragging lol

Just fed up of the smelly fat bashing threads.

We're not all lazy or not wanting jobs. There really isnt a happy medium in my case.

And this IS NOT a WOE IS ME thread, it is a simply dont be so fking judgemental thread

And yes you can come n see my qualifications if you dont believe a fat scouser could well be a bit intelligent."

But I will still say the same, how can a skinny bird like me have xx GCSE's taken mainly at 14 and x A- levels by 16..., followed by xyz (my uni and further qualifications) etc etc

Size means nothing.

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By *els_Bells OP Woman
over a year ago

with the moon n stars somewhere in gtr manc

"This may get me a ban or pulled...

But, do you personally see fat/bbw's/big men as just fat and lazy individuals,

who are all thick, wont get a job etc?

I am a fat bird/woman whatever you want to call the likes of me.

Do you automatically think I am thick or lazy because I am unemployed?

To enlighten you, I worked from 14 to 28. So paid tax from 16. Then went to work in a shop when getting my a levels when I was 29. Then got a degree with a 'babe in arms'.

Can I get a job? Can I fuck. Even as a xmas temp in a shop all because I was good at computer systems and had a nice voice.

So all those in favour of getting help from the government etc if you are slim, is it right I get fuck all and told I am over qualified???

So all those fat bashers who think every fat person is lazy orvthick, think again.... Oh and get bent!

You know sweet FA

You are seeing the root cause of all your problems as you being overweight.

My advice? Test that theory. Go on a diet and lose enough weight that you'd be classed as 'fit', or a 'hottie' or even just slim, and see if it gets you a job.

You'll be surprised to learn that it wasn't the new you that got you a job, it was the new you that did it."

Im really not. Personally, i have lost over 4 stone in the last 18 months and beleive getting a job has fk all to do with my appearance hence this post in response to the obesity benefits thread. This xmas has been the hardest ever

i gave up my part time job to concentrate on my degree and baby. Little did I know was my specialist subject was to be pulled by the current government.

My point is, dont automatically assume fat people are thick and lazy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This may get me a ban or pulled...

But, do you personally see fat/bbw's/big men as just fat and lazy individuals,

who are all thick, wont get a job etc?

I am a fat bird/woman whatever you want to call the likes of me.

Do you automatically think I am thick or lazy because I am unemployed?

To enlighten you, I worked from 14 to 28. So paid tax from 16. Then went to work in a shop when getting my a levels when I was 29. Then got a degree with a 'babe in arms'.

Can I get a job? Can I fuck. Even as a xmas temp in a shop all because I was good at computer systems and had a nice voice.

So all those in favour of getting help from the government etc if you are slim, is it right I get fuck all and told I am over qualified???

So all those fat bashers who think every fat person is lazy orvthick, think again.... Oh and get bent!

You know sweet FA "

I've never thought of larger people as being lazy etc, and can't understand anyone that would think like that.

I've worked all my life, as have yourself and many others on the site.

Times are hard at the moment on the job front, keep trying something will come up. xx

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By *els_Bells OP Woman
over a year ago

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"I was 28 when I went back to school. Got an outstanding g.c.s.e and then the equivalent to 5 a levels and 2points off a first in my degree (without maternity leave) not that Im bragging lol

Just fed up of the smelly fat bashing threads.

We're not all lazy or not wanting jobs. There really isnt a happy medium in my case.

And this IS NOT a WOE IS ME thread, it is a simply dont be so fking judgemental thread

And yes you can come n see my qualifications if you dont believe a fat scouser could well be a bit intelligent.

But I will still say the same, how can a skinny bird like me have xx GCSE's taken mainly at 14 and x A- levels by 16..., followed by xyz (my uni and further qualifications) etc etc

Size means nothing."

Thats my whole point. Clumsy I know but it was a spin o being obese n receiving hand outs x

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By *els_Bells OP Woman
over a year ago

with the moon n stars somewhere in gtr manc

"I was 28 when I went back to school. Got an outstanding g.c.s.e and then the equivalent to 5 a levels and 2points off a first in my degree (without maternity leave) not that Im bragging lol

Just fed up of the smelly fat bashing threads.

We're not all lazy or not wanting jobs. There really isnt a happy medium in my case.

And this IS NOT a WOE IS ME thread, it is a simply dont be so fking judgemental thread

And yes you can come n see my qualifications if you dont believe a fat scouser could well be a bit intelligent.

But I will still say the same, how can a skinny bird like me have xx GCSE's taken mainly at 14 and x A- levels by 16..., followed by xyz (my uni and further qualifications) etc etc

Size means nothing."

Thats my whole point. Clumsy I know but it was a spin o being obese n receiving hand outs x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I was 28 when I went back to school. Got an outstanding g.c.s.e and then the equivalent to 5 a levels and 2points off a first in my degree (without maternity leave) not that Im bragging lol

Just fed up of the smelly fat bashing threads.

We're not all lazy or not wanting jobs. There really isnt a happy medium in my case.

And this IS NOT a WOE IS ME thread, it is a simply dont be so fking judgemental thread

And yes you can come n see my qualifications if you dont believe a fat scouser could well be a bit intelligent.

But I will still say the same, how can a skinny bird like me have xx GCSE's taken mainly at 14 and x A- levels by 16..., followed by xyz (my uni and further qualifications) etc etc

Size means nothing.

Thats my whole point. Clumsy I know but it was a spin o being obese n receiving hand outs x"

My point though being intelligence has no relation to size.

Or who I have ever employed.

Just try to remember who you are on the inside hun, that is what you are and what will win you the race.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP yes there has been some negativity around larger size ladies again recently. I don't know why this size wars thing is such a threat.

I have never had the _iew that all bigger people are lazy and thick.

I am not a slim lady, I'm a buxom lass for sure. I know this may sound arrogant, but I think its obvious I have a certain level of intelligence and education, so I wouldn't get offended by remarks you've quoted as they simply do not apply to me.

And these remarks don't apply to you either. You don't have to prove yourself to anyone on here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

don't let it get to you hels.

your a nice women xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've been turned down for a job because if the tattoo on the back of my neck. They said I had all the right qualifications but the tattoo was a no no

Even though its not offensive.

So they chose someone less qualified and who didn't have a clue.

Pissed me right off.

There will always be silly reasons as to not getting a job

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By *els_Bells OP Woman
over a year ago

with the moon n stars somewhere in gtr manc

Thanks for the nice posts.

Just hate being unemployed and wanting the best for my little one.

Have had one bit of positivity from one of the dozem of agencies Im with. So who knows.

Just wanted to (unintentionally emotive) say i may be fat but im not lazy/thick or work shy no matter how I come across on here x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If anyone is rude enough to call you "fat" then just think "PHAT" Pretty Hot and Tempting

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By *xodussxMan
over a year ago

sheffield

Calm down

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hels I can understand how you are feeling but with your determination all will come good soon.

Some comments today have been unbelievably crass and if feeling a little down, these remarks can be hurtful.

Fingers crossed things will look up for you soon xx

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By *els_Bells OP Woman
over a year ago

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Rarrr slap me now!

Ffs I normally have a thick skin but im having a low minute.

I apologise.

Sorry for the whine all xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bend over then for a slap

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By *els_Bells OP Woman
over a year ago

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"Bend over then for a slap

Bends over. Hope u got big hands lol.

Sorry all for being such a girl xxx

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By *xodussxMan
over a year ago

sheffield

"Bend over then for a slap

Bends over. Hope u got big hands lol.

Sorry all for being such a girl xxx"
We love when you are a girl

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

Loads of people have been thrown out of jobs thanks to recession and there's loads of applicants for every job so prejudices are skewing choices. I so hope you get a job soon everyone who wants to work deserves a job and the unemployed do not deserve to be scapegoated and larger people or any other minority group should be treated equally

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By *els_Bells OP Woman
over a year ago

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"Bend over then for a slap

Bends over. Hope u got big hands lol.

Sorry all for being such a girl xxx We love when you are a girl

Lol not everyone!

I just have my odd moment. Didnt mean to cause a stir x

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By *els_Bells OP Woman
over a year ago

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"Loads of people have been thrown out of jobs thanks to recession and there's loads of applicants for every job so prejudices are skewing choices. I so hope you get a job soon everyone who wants to work deserves a job and the unemployed do not deserve to be scapegoated and larger people or any other minority group should be treated equally "

Thank you. It was just down to the news and the odd comment that all fat people want to be unemployed when not all fat people do x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bend over then for a slap

Bends over. Hope u got big hands lol.

Sorry all for being such a girl xxx"

Lol you'll scream like a girl when I slap your arse

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

noting to do with obesity as im skinny but I went 4 years unemployed after gaining A level, Degree and Masters education.

I sent in over 1500 applications, tailored CV's/cover letters etc - just could not find a thing. But, work is there so keep your eyes open

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally I find all threads that bash size bloody annoying now, wish people would just shut up and get on with their lives, and that includes generalising too. After all lots of fat people work, lots don't and equally lots of skinny people work and lots don't

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am a fat girl and my way of dealing with the fat bashing threads, or any thresd I've no intrest in is simple, I don't read them. I refuse to have a bunch of strangers who know nothing about me throw generalised, nasty, abusive comments around. Yes I know it happens, I'm not naive, but why let it get to you. The only person whos opinion of you that matters is your own, who cares what a bunch of people who you are never going to meet think. You sound like a very determined person who wants whats best for herself and family, and that determination will be what gets you the things you want in life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good post Hels!

I think size has nothing to do with intelligence or getting a job. In some areas there just aren't any jobs. Even for a scary ranty Scouser.

Hang in there, you're a great person you'll find something. Could you maybe do more training to slightly change your expertise to match something they are looking for?

Rusty made a good point about tattoo's. It's not just fat people, it's tattoo'd people, tall people, skinny people, disabled people etc etc. Everyone gets discriminated against at some point. Next week they will pick on someone else.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

Be proud of what you have achieved and excited about the future. If at times it gets to you, take a walk... I am the biggest believer that the benefits of exercise when people may be at their lowest is unbeatable, also may shed a few pounds.

The job situation will come good

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By *els_Bells OP Woman
over a year ago

with the moon n stars somewhere in gtr manc

Thank you all.

Apologies for going on. Just one of them days x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thank you all.

Apologies for going on. Just one of them days x"

No apology necessary

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hels - there's only one thing wrong with you ....

You support Liverpool

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This may get me a ban or pulled...

But, do you personally see fat/bbw's/big men as just fat and lazy individuals,

who are all thick, wont get a job etc?

I am a fat bird/woman whatever you want to call the likes of me.

Do you automatically think I am thick or lazy because I am unemployed?

To enlighten you, I worked from 14 to 28. So paid tax from 16. Then went to work in a shop when getting my a levels when I was 29. Then got a degree with a 'babe in arms'.

Can I get a job? Can I fuck. Even as a xmas temp in a shop all because I was good at computer systems and had a nice voice.

So all those in favour of getting help from the government etc if you are slim, is it right I get fuck all and told I am over qualified???

So all those fat bashers who think every fat person is lazy orvthick, think again.... Oh and get bent!

You know sweet FA

You are seeing the root cause of all your problems as you being overweight.

My advice? Test that theory. Go on a diet and lose enough weight that you'd be classed as 'fit', or a 'hottie' or even just slim, and see if it gets you a job.

You'll be surprised to learn that it wasn't the new you that got you a job, it was the new you that did it."
wishy not sure what you have been doing but loads of good posts from you in forums and alot of truth in what you say here too.

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By *ub bbwWoman
over a year ago

oldbury

Hels I completely understand being out of work sucks I'm off to job Centre for the 2nd time this week now to have the life ducked out of me by the local idiots who don't want a job. I'm a big girl but can't wait to find a job again. Unfortunately people do judge books bh covers and tar everyone with the same brush but keep doing what your doing and prove them wrong.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Whoops, I put it on the wrong thread the first time! I went looking for the research.

I couldn't find the source for the American study on obesity and getting jobs - I think I must have thrown those files away.

There are two interesting pieces of more recent research here, though:

The Impact of Obesity on Employment, Stephen Norris, 2007 - Imperial College, London;

Adult socio-economic, educational, social and psychological outcomes of childhood obesity: a national birth cohort study - BMJ 2005.

Both show less positive outcomes for overweight people in securing work. The second states it clearer that fat women fare worse than (fat) men in terms of employment and relationships. Fat children are more prevalent in depressed socio-economic families are neighbourhoods.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

I seem to get the jobs that I apply for and inter_iew for.. Apprantly I inter_iew really well... I guess I am in a carrer choice that does not go on what you look like but what people skills you have...

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