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"… are they very unreliable or is it just because they get abused in harsh conditions." Harsh conditions? Most of them only get used for the school run and the shopping. | |||
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"When I see recovery vehicles on the road most of the time they seem to have a Discovery on them, are they very unreliable or is it just because they get abused in harsh conditions." Waitrose car parks are notoriously harsh | |||
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"When I see recovery vehicles on the road most of the time they seem to have a Discovery on them, are they very unreliable or is it just because they get abused in harsh conditions. They are just too technically complicated for their own good. I have a 1986 Landrover 110. I’ve had it nearly 30 years and it’s never let me down, not broken down or failed to start. " Buy British! | |||
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"When I see recovery vehicles on the road most of the time they seem to have a Discovery on them, are they very unreliable or is it just because they get abused in harsh conditions. They are just too technically complicated for their own good. I have a 1986 Landrover 110. I’ve had it nearly 30 years and it’s never let me down, not broken down or failed to start. " Ooooh, is it a petrol one? Fuel tanks under the seats?? | |||
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"When I see recovery vehicles on the road most of the time they seem to have a Discovery on them, are they very unreliable or is it just because they get abused in harsh conditions. They are just too technically complicated for their own good. I have a 1986 Landrover 110. I’ve had it nearly 30 years and it’s never let me down, not broken down or failed to start. " I have a 1974 Series 3. Never let me down | |||
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"When I see recovery vehicles on the road most of the time they seem to have a Discovery on them, are they very unreliable or is it just because they get abused in harsh conditions. Waitrose car parks are notoriously harsh " | |||
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"Had 11 different LR Models over the last 15 years or so. All of them have been how should I say this..... Troublesome " Myself I would be thinking maybe it’s time to try a different brand of car | |||
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"When I see recovery vehicles on the road most of the time they seem to have a Discovery on them, are they very unreliable or is it just because they get abused in harsh conditions. They are just too technically complicated for their own good. I have a 1986 Landrover 110. I’ve had it nearly 30 years and it’s never let me down, not broken down or failed to start. Ooooh, is it a petrol one? Fuel tanks under the seats??" No. Diesel. | |||
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"Had 11 different LR Models over the last 15 years or so. All of them have been how should I say this..... Troublesome Myself I would be thinking maybe it’s time to try a different brand of car " They have never been the main mode of transport, I might be mad but not crazy | |||
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"Just selling my original green oval money pit (Classic LSE) and down to only one money pit (3 door facelift Freelander 1) Most modern cars are designed for ten years life. When many land rovers are thirty years old and going strong. But yes, they can be a pain in the wallet, but so much fun to drive. " Completely agree, things were manufactured to last years ago. 3.9 ( Running on LPG ) Classic was my 1st proper LR | |||
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"Had 11 different LR Models over the last 15 years or so. All of them have been how should I say this..... Troublesome " Are you always slow to learn a lesson | |||
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"The Range Rover Evoque and Discovery Sport are pretty much the same vehicle and are badly designed and built. I work with someone who has had their Evoque in for repair for a majority of the 18 months they have owned it. The dealers are useless to" Yes totally agree , never again | |||
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" Buy British! " Are they really British? I bet they've got the indicator stalk fitted on the 'uro' side of the steering wheel! | |||
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" Buy British! Are they really British? I bet they've got the indicator stalk fitted on the 'uro' side of the steering wheel!" My old 2 door Range Rover had the indicator on the right but my mid 80s 90 has it on the left. | |||
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" Buy British! Are they really British? I bet they've got the indicator stalk fitted on the 'uro' side of the steering wheel! My old 2 door Range Rover had the indicator on the right but my mid 80s 90 has it on the left." I assumed the original ones were right handed but no doubt at some time subsequently they decided to attract Ford drivers! | |||
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"When I see recovery vehicles on the road most of the time they seem to have a Discovery on them, are they very unreliable or is it just because they get abused in harsh conditions." I work for a Land Rover dealership... We frequently have them turn up on the back of a truck. Often it's because the owners have skipped services other times they've been ragged off-road and something has broken. MrWho | |||
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"The Range Rover Evoque and Discovery Sport are pretty much the same vehicle and are badly designed and built. I work with someone who has had their Evoque in for repair for a majority of the 18 months they have owned it. The dealers are useless to" They're massively different. | |||
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"When I see recovery vehicles on the road most of the time they seem to have a Discovery on them, are they very unreliable or is it just because they get abused in harsh conditions. I work for a Land Rover dealership... We frequently have them turn up on the back of a truck. Often it's because the owners have skipped services other times they've been ragged off-road and something has broken. MrWho " And at times just badly conceived / assembled | |||
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"Had 11 different LR Models over the last 15 years or so. All of them have been how should I say this..... Troublesome Are you always slow to learn a lesson " In life no , in LR ownership possibly | |||
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"I have a Range Rover Sport..no issues..wouldn't want to change it.." I have the same I absolutely love it | |||
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"Classic wankpanzer Absolutely stealing this " I want royalties x | |||
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"Classic wankpanzer Absolutely stealing this " Me too. Haha. Glorious. | |||
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"When I see recovery vehicles on the road most of the time they seem to have a Discovery on them, are they very unreliable or is it just because they get abused in harsh conditions. I work for a Land Rover dealership... We frequently have them turn up on the back of a truck. Often it's because the owners have skipped services other times they've been ragged off-road and something has broken. MrWho " • I have an Evoque "First Edition"....umm...long story... . . . . | |||
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"Classic wankpanzer Absolutely stealing this Me too. Haha. Glorious." I absolutely fucking despise them | |||
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"You won't see many defenders being towed away. Go on the the 300tdi lol" Ex mil wolf 90, but the prices are crazy for them. | |||
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"I am a devotee of the Land Rover, and over the years have driven many variants, and had the privilege of ‘abusing’ them as they were designed to be, and had them in many precarious places I would never have thought they could get through - but they did! … I also owned a couple of Discovery’s previously. …however, the new Land Rover defender is nothing more than a rich man’s play thing? hanging on go it’s heritage with the name - very sad. R x" They replaced a shire horse with a show pony. | |||
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"When I see recovery vehicles on the road most of the time they seem to have a Discovery on them, are they very unreliable or is it just because they get abused in harsh conditions." yes they are unreliable and expensive | |||
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"We've got a couple of Defender 90 Carpathian Edition's in at work at the moment. 518 angry horsepower and a sexy matte grey wrapped exterior. They're an absolute hoot to drive too. Hitting 60 in a tad over 5 seconds in a car that big is surreal. I do have a bit of a soft spot for the new Defender and it seems to be the more reliable vehicle if the range... I hate the Velar with a passion though. There's nothing about that car that makes any sense. MrWho." impressive spec. as well as a hefty prize tag of $114K compared to the Yukon which delivers similar if not an all round better performance at nearly half the prize tag of $77K and seats more passengers. | |||
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"Toyota people are now googling recovery truck ." | |||
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"Toyota people are now googling recovery truck ." This post didn't get the recognition it deserved. Winston | |||
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"" ... I hate the Velar with a passion though. There's nothing about that car that makes any sense. ... " A ridiculous school run tank in which Mummy drives from a position already half way back along the overall length and Tarquin sits in the shrunk rear part with his school cap nearly touching the roof lining! But undoubtedly styled for pushing back out into the single file traffic outside the school once Tarquin has been dropped off and it's time to go and park at the gym." What did Tarquin ever do to you? | |||
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"" ... I hate the Velar with a passion though. There's nothing about that car that makes any sense. ... " A ridiculous school run tank in which Mummy drives from a position already half way back along the overall length and Tarquin sits in the shrunk rear part with his school cap nearly touching the roof lining! But undoubtedly styled for pushing back out into the single file traffic outside the school once Tarquin has been dropped off and it's time to go and park at the gym. What did Tarquin ever do to you? " Not my invention. I think you will find he is a generic thing! | |||
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"We've got a couple of Defender 90 Carpathian Edition's in at work at the moment. 518 angry horsepower and a sexy matte grey wrapped exterior. They're an absolute hoot to drive too. Hitting 60 in a tad over 5 seconds in a car that big is surreal. I do have a bit of a soft spot for the new Defender and it seems to be the more reliable vehicle if the range... I hate the Velar with a passion though. There's nothing about that car that makes any sense. MrWho. impressive spec. as well as a hefty prize tag of $114K compared to the Yukon which delivers similar if not an all round better performance at nearly half the prize tag of $77K and seats more passengers. " Having driven a Yukon for a few weeks in Florida I can say, without a shadow of doubt, that the Yukon is an appalling drive compared to the Defender Carpathian. The gearbox is hilarious at best and the body roll gives you seasickness!! It may be more reliable but I couldn't comment because I haven't driven either of them enough to compare. There's a 110 Carpathian that seats 7 too. | |||
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"We've got a couple of Defender 90 Carpathian Edition's in at work at the moment. 518 angry horsepower and a sexy matte grey wrapped exterior. They're an absolute hoot to drive too. Hitting 60 in a tad over 5 seconds in a car that big is surreal. I do have a bit of a soft spot for the new Defender and it seems to be the more reliable vehicle if the range... I hate the Velar with a passion though. There's nothing about that car that makes any sense. MrWho. impressive spec. as well as a hefty prize tag of $114K compared to the Yukon which delivers similar if not an all round better performance at nearly half the prize tag of $77K and seats more passengers. Having driven a Yukon for a few weeks in Florida I can say, without a shadow of doubt, that the Yukon is an appalling drive compared to the Defender Carpathian. The gearbox is hilarious at best and the body roll gives you seasickness!! It may be more reliable but I couldn't comment because I haven't driven either of them enough to compare. There's a 110 Carpathian that seats 7 too." never driven so will take your word for it, only going of review from online motorists. Guessing true appreciation can only be gained after experiencing an all terrain test drive incl. many other vehicles. On paper the Yukon easily makes more sense saving a whopping $37K. | |||
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"I once bought a new Shogun the same month as a neighbour bought a discovery. His spent most of the first year in the garage being repaired. He used to curse it. I had the Shogun for 7 years and did over 200,000 miles in it. It was off road on a regular basis too. The only thing I ever had to do to it other than regular services was tyres and break pads. The tyres would last over 60,000 miles with the deeper treads! It was one of the best cars I've ever had. Unfortunately Mitsibushi have now pulled out of the uk " Can believe that, since I've yet to meet an owner/driver who sings praises for their Discovery. Plenty other better vehicles to maybe consider like the Ford Bronco, Jeep Wrangler, Toyota 4Runner, Lexus GX, Jeep Grand Cherokee, Toyota Sequoia, Lexus LX at a fraction of the cost. | |||
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"Must admit the Jaguar Land Rover Defender V8 Carpathian does look great and has excellent reviews, only down side is the mpg. However, when spending that much money on a vehicle I don't believe one would care about the mpg. " The Range Rover SVR is also quite impressive. Silly speed and absolute luxury (while the gadgets work). They don't really encapsulate the whole "go anywhere" ethos of traditional Land/Range Rovers though. | |||
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"Must admit the Jaguar Land Rover Defender V8 Carpathian does look great and has excellent reviews, only down side is the mpg. However, when spending that much money on a vehicle I don't believe one would care about the mpg. The Range Rover SVR is also quite impressive. Silly speed and absolute luxury (while the gadgets work). They don't really encapsulate the whole "go anywhere" ethos of traditional Land/Range Rovers though." ...it's the "go anywhere" spirit that makes certain Land Rovers gr8. Ive not driven the V8 Carpathian but having read the spec. and seen footage on YouTube, must say it's very impressive. Looks and performance. | |||
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"Must admit the Jaguar Land Rover Defender V8 Carpathian does look great and has excellent reviews, only down side is the mpg. However, when spending that much money on a vehicle I don't believe one would care about the mpg. The Range Rover SVR is also quite impressive. Silly speed and absolute luxury (while the gadgets work). They don't really encapsulate the whole "go anywhere" ethos of traditional Land/Range Rovers though. ...it's the "go anywhere" spirit that makes certain Land Rovers gr8. Ive not driven the V8 Carpathian but having read the spec. and seen footage on YouTube, must say it's very impressive. Looks and performance. " The first one I drove scared me a little at first. It takes a second to hoist it's skirt and then it takes off with terrifying ferocity and accelerates like a car half its size, the 110 is even more surprising. The only disappointment is the exhaust has been muted a bit so the supercharged V8 soundtrack is a bit quiet. | |||
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"Anecdotally What's at halfords getting headline fitted because I've become lazy and talking to the fitter he says the s Range Rover is 600 pounds to change a battery because they have to remove the top half of the engine." That's weird because it's under the drivers seat and there's an access panel in the cabin. This is why you don't let Halfrauds touch your car! New batteries do need to be coded though but that's not unusual on cars after 2005. | |||
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"When I see recovery vehicles on the road most of the time they seem to have a Discovery on them, are they very unreliable or is it just because they get abused in harsh conditions. They are just too technically complicated for their own good. I have a 1986 Landrover 110. I’ve had it nearly 30 years and it’s never let me down, not broken down or failed to start. " Iv series and a 2002 110 double cab defender that’s worked hard had old Range Rover discos ect wouldn’t want anything they sell new now other than as posein car ?? | |||
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"Must admit the Jaguar Land Rover Defender V8 Carpathian does look great and has excellent reviews, only down side is the mpg. However, when spending that much money on a vehicle I don't believe one would care about the mpg. The Range Rover SVR is also quite impressive. Silly speed and absolute luxury (while the gadgets work). They don't really encapsulate the whole "go anywhere" ethos of traditional Land/Range Rovers though. ...it's the "go anywhere" spirit that makes certain Land Rovers gr8. Ive not driven the V8 Carpathian but having read the spec. and seen footage on YouTube, must say it's very impressive. Looks and performance. The first one I drove scared me a little at first. It takes a second to hoist it's skirt and then it takes off with terrifying ferocity and accelerates like a car half its size, the 110 is even more surprising. The only disappointment is the exhaust has been muted a bit so the supercharged V8 soundtrack is a bit quiet." The 110 with its 525BHP certainly ticks all the boxes: specification, looks and performance. Probably there isn't a better all terrain vehicle than this...! Btw, it's same with me with the skirt, once deflowered there's no stopping me. | |||
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"Necer had one so can't comment on that but seem to be verywhere these days. Makes me wonder if there was a cheap deal going to flog them " Nah. People are just easily influenced! | |||
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"A question for an Land Rover fitter specialist, what is the craic with engine oil pump failure on some newer discovery's that result in a blown engine and a replacement engine required, is it worth renewing these parts before they fail, I am led to believe this needs the body removing but one guy reckons he can do that in two hours?" If you look at my previous post. Plus look up on internet forums. Ingenium engine Discovery failure. You will find many posts about these engines and bills for repair / replacing engines. From when JLR said repair could go ahead. Took about ten days for work to be completed. Engine from what I was informed, has to be removed from car to do work. | |||
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"A question for an Land Rover fitter specialist, what is the craic with engine oil pump failure on some newer discovery's that result in a blown engine and a replacement engine required, is it worth renewing these parts before they fail, I am led to believe this needs the body removing but one guy reckons he can do that in two hours? If you look at my previous post. Plus look up on internet forums. Ingenium engine Discovery failure. You will find many posts about these engines and bills for repair / replacing engines. From when JLR said repair could go ahead. Took about ten days for work to be completed. Engine from what I was informed, has to be removed from car to do work. " Yeah, pretty much everything under the bonnet needs to come out. The engine then needs to be totally stripped to properly repair. It's a huge job. Ford are having similar issues with blocked oil ways causing timing chain failure, we had one in last month that required a new engine as it was cheaper than repairing the failed one. It'd only done 16k miles. | |||
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"A question for an Land Rover fitter specialist, what is the craic with engine oil pump failure on some newer discovery's that result in a blown engine and a replacement engine required, is it worth renewing these parts before they fail, I am led to believe this needs the body removing but one guy reckons he can do that in two hours? If you look at my previous post. Plus look up on internet forums. Ingenium engine Discovery failure. You will find many posts about these engines and bills for repair / replacing engines. From when JLR said repair could go ahead. Took about ten days for work to be completed. Engine from what I was informed, has to be removed from car to do work. " Just to add. Discovery was in a JLR dealership for repair. As I said , did not pay anything. Was informed at first. New engine to fit cost £10k to £13k. Repair between £5k to £10k . On forums which looked at , even now saying approx same cost. JLR sometimes offering to pay some contribution. | |||
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