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"I wondered if anybody had any methods of finding peace in the company of somebody who it is very difficult to be around. Not being in their company once in awhile is not an option, and often I'm alone with them (again not an option to always have other people around) and therefore need make conversation. They are unaware of how they come across and the way they talk about other people is quite distasteful to me (and would be to most of the population I expect). So I'm not asking for ways of avoiding being alone with them or out of their company, I'm asking how to rise above feeling annoyance and keep my peace. I have calmly and nicely tried to explain my views and why their attitude to other people is not becoming, but they find it funny that it can bother me, although these days I have said quite firmly to them, that I am refusing to get annoyed about it as I don't want to feed the fire. The inner feelings I have in the situation are uncomfortable and I would love to find some mental ways of feeling different inside, even though on the outside I think I remain completely calm and almost indifferent. (Please keep any replies and advice to the forum thread.) " Invent an obnoxious alter ego and mirror they're shutty attitude back at them and add stuff they find annoying. It's not the real you so you can justify being a douche to them see how they like it. | |||
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" Invent an obnoxious alter ego and mirror they're shutty attitude back at them and add stuff they find annoying. It's not the real you so you can justify being a douche to them see how they like it." It's more how they talk about other people that is the issue, not how they actually treat me. I can deal with how they treat me, the problem is how nasty and judgemental they are about others. I need to find a way to keep my inner peace and let there were just have no resonance. Maybe I'll have to think of them as a child who just doesn't understand the world or speak the same language, or something | |||
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" Invent an obnoxious alter ego and mirror they're shutty attitude back at them and add stuff they find annoying. It's not the real you so you can justify being a douche to them see how they like it. It's more how they talk about other people that is the issue, not how they actually treat me. I can deal with how they treat me, the problem is how nasty and judgemental they are about others. I need to find a way to keep my inner peace and let there were just have no resonance. Maybe I'll have to think of them as a child who just doesn't understand the world or speak the same language, or something" My Nan was exactly like that! But think you may have a good strategy with the child who doesn’t understand the world. Sometimes lonely people are just the worst people to be around because they become very bitter and twisted about the world. | |||
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"Great idea! And if you ever just need a rant OP my inbox is open. " Thank you | |||
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"Take your ear buds with you and drown out there attempts with music or an incredible book " If only that was an option, sadly not. | |||
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"Obviously don't know the context of the interaction but is it possible to be in their presence but almost pretend they're not there? Don't invite to speak to them. Respond to questions with short, closed, factual answers. Maintain a physical distance. Would any of that work??" Unfortunately I have to be very polite and to interact and tolerate them. I do maintain a physical distance, although that's not really an issue, it's more their converational attitude. | |||
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"Look up the Grey Rock method online. Basically it is a coping tactic one can use whereby one becomes as uninteresting and unengaged as possible so that the other person loses interest in trying to start or sustain a conversation with them. " Off to check that out now. Thanks | |||
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"Obviously don't know the context of the interaction but is it possible to be in their presence but almost pretend they're not there? Don't invite to speak to them. Respond to questions with short, closed, factual answers. Maintain a physical distance. Would any of that work?? Unfortunately I have to be very polite and to interact and tolerate them. I do maintain a physical distance, although that's not really an issue, it's more their converational attitude." Can you keep the conversation simple, factual and as mono syllabic as possible? | |||
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"Obviously don't know the context of the interaction but is it possible to be in their presence but almost pretend they're not there? Don't invite to speak to them. Respond to questions with short, closed, factual answers. Maintain a physical distance. Would any of that work?? Unfortunately I have to be very polite and to interact and tolerate them. I do maintain a physical distance, although that's not really an issue, it's more their converational attitude. Can you keep the conversation simple, factual and as mono syllabic as possible? " I think I will try to do that, and also incorporate grey rocking into my toolbox to deal with this, and also breathwork, (as a link while researching grey rocking led to breathwork to help too). When they are being kind, I will give them more attention, when they are being more difficult, I will open this mental toolbox I feel I am building. Thank you so much everyone, I already feel better equipt and more confident and capable of putting this situation in its place. | |||
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"This is a difficult one which I can totally relate to. I work a 12hr night shift with someone who sounds very similar to this person. In the past I found it very hard not to rise to the bait and indeed did many times. My coping strategy now is complete calm no matter how much I might feel I’m going to self combust. I talk quietly and stay in control. If she tries to gossip to me about other colleagues I tell her I’m not interested and don’t discuss my work mates. If it’s general work gossip I say “Really? I never hear anything. My head must be in the clouds. I much prefer it that way” This approach is finally showing results. It’s not easy and I hate it when I know I’m on shift with her but I feel so much better for it." OP, this is grey rocking in a nutshell. Hope this helps! | |||
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" OP, this is grey rocking in a nutshell. Hope this helps! " Oohhh am I tackling it the correct way without even realising? | |||
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"I wondered if anybody had any methods of finding peace in the company of somebody who it is very difficult to be around. Not being in their company once in awhile is not an option, and often I'm alone with them (again not an option to always have other people around) and therefore need make conversation. They are unaware of how they come across and the way they talk about other people is quite distasteful to me (and would be to most of the population I expect). So I'm not asking for ways of avoiding being alone with them or out of their company, I'm asking how to rise above feeling annoyance and keep my peace. I have calmly and nicely tried to explain my views and why their attitude to other people is not becoming, but they find it funny that it can bother me, although these days I have said quite firmly to them, that I am refusing to get annoyed about it as I don't want to feed the fire. The inner feelings I have in the situation are uncomfortable and I would love to find some mental ways of feeling different inside, even though on the outside I think I remain completely calm and almost indifferent. (Please keep any replies and advice to the forum thread.) " Don't think that their would be anything anyone could say that could change how you feel about this person and their aggressive tone but mind over matter...... If you dont mind it don't matter | |||
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"This is a difficult one which I can totally relate to. I work a 12hr night shift with someone who sounds very similar to this person. In the past I found it very hard not to rise to the bait and indeed did many times. My coping strategy now is complete calm no matter how much I might feel I’m going to self combust. I talk quietly and stay in control. If she tries to gossip to me about other colleagues I tell her I’m not interested and don’t discuss my work mates. If it’s general work gossip I say “Really? I never hear anything. My head must be in the clouds. I much prefer it that way” This approach is finally showing results. It’s not easy and I hate it when I know I’m on shift with her but I feel so much better for it." This what I do | |||
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"This what makes me dubious who to meet on fab. Spending a hour in a room with someone who very difficult to talk to is not great experience i want to repeat. I'm guessing if I can chat to them easily on text/fsb, they should be ok to meet in person?" It doesn't necessarily mean they have a personality | |||
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"Read The Chimp Paradox by Dr Steve Peters this book will put your brain in the right place to deal with any situation," I will have a look at this, and thank you so much for everyone's input there has been some absolutely brilliant suggestions and support here, which to be fair is one of the best things about Fab. | |||
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"‘Other people’s thoughts are a reflection of themselves, absolutely nothing to do with the person they’re aimed at’ A quote I once read which lifted a huge weight of my shoulders, could make it a little easier to handle your tough situation too op " I will keep this in my head while in their company. Thank you so much | |||
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"I'd probably just tell them straight that I don't like the way they speak about people and would prefer that they don't do it. If it was at work I'd follow it up by asking them not to speak to me unless it's work related. " I have tried that and because of the way they are, they enjoy even more not respecting what I've asked. I will be ignoring them in the future though, when they are talking about things but I'm not interested in discussing. | |||
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"Can you listen to music on your headphones while they are around? " Unfortunately not. | |||
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"Can you listen to music on your headphones while they are around? Unfortunately not. " I'm sorry, its horrible when someone you work with ruins your job. Can you get another job? | |||
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"Look up the Grey Rock method online. Basically it is a coping tactic one can use whereby one becomes as uninteresting and unengaged as possible so that the other person loses interest in trying to start or sustain a conversation with them. " Yes. Given you've said you've tried to set a boundary, just be very very boring when they talk about stuff that winds you up. They're going for a reaction. Reward them with a reaction when they're not being a douchebag. (This works pretty well with some of my relatives, who make Hitler look like a left wing snowflake) | |||
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"I'd probably just tell them straight that I don't like the way they speak about people and would prefer that they don't do it. If it was at work I'd follow it up by asking them not to speak to me unless it's work related. I have tried that and because of the way they are, they enjoy even more not respecting what I've asked. I will be ignoring them in the future though, when they are talking about things but I'm not interested in discussing. " In that case just wait until nobody else is within earshot and tell them that they're a douchebag and you're going to put laxative in their coffee....just make sure you're smiling as you say it, especially if there's CCTV in the building | |||
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