FabSwingers.com forum: It sucks!

By *nabelle21 OP Woman
over a year ago

B38

I am paid hourly and nearly every flaming day I work at least an hour over without pay just to stay on top of my work load.

Just 1 hour a day over a month is a lot of hours. Almost a weeks wages!

I am just having a moan, I worked an hour an hour over today

Anyone else have to put in extra unpaid hours?

Or, once you hit logging of time are you out of there, sharpish?

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham

I dream of just 1 hour a day extra ... but I feel your pain ... it seems to be the British way sadly

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By *enrietteandSamCouple
over a year ago

Staffordshire

I work for me.

Lots of unpaid hours.

But then again I do spend a lot of ‘company’ time on the golf course

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham

Anyway ... I only came to this thread for the prospect of sucking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am paid hourly and nearly every flaming day I work at least an hour over without pay just to stay on top of my work load.

Just 1 hour a day over a month is a lot of hours. Almost a weeks wages!

I am just having a moan, I worked an hour an hour over today

Anyone else have to put in extra unpaid hours?

Or, once you hit logging of time are you out of there, sharpish?"

Could you not claim the extra hours work? Do they know you have to stay extra to keep on top of your work?

I really feel for you OP if there's nothing you can do

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
over a year ago

Carlisle usually

Stop staying without pay.

If your workload is unmanageable in the time you're being paid to work then talk to whoever is above you about delegating some of it elsewhere or paying you for the extra time.

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By *nabelle21 OP Woman
over a year ago

B38

"Anyway ... I only came to this thread for the prospect of sucking

Hey Monkey

It should have read...it sucks and not in a good way

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham

"Anyway ... I only came to this thread for the prospect of sucking

Hey Monkey

It should have read...it sucks and not in a good way

Well from my memory ...

I've said too much

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Time for a new job, OP ! You're smart, hard working, great social skills and a positive attitude. Loads of better employers would be lucky to have you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unless you are management, you shouldn't be doing this regularly without it being highlighted and compensated properly for it. Tell your manager that you're not doing this week in week out anymore without pay. Hint about contacting HR and hopefully they get the message

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By *nabelle21 OP Woman
over a year ago

B38

"I work for me.

Lots of unpaid hours.

But then again I do spend a lot of ‘company’ time on the golf course

Well ...you are the boss.

I want to be a boss

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By *ickshawedCouple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

I never work unpaid. I have Flexi time, so either use that time to go in late a different day or claim overtime

If you're paid hourly can you not tell them what time you finish and claim the extra hours?

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By *nabelle21 OP Woman
over a year ago

B38

"I am paid hourly and nearly every flaming day I work at least an hour over without pay just to stay on top of my work load.

Just 1 hour a day over a month is a lot of hours. Almost a weeks wages!

I am just having a moan, I worked an hour an hour over today

Anyone else have to put in extra unpaid hours?

Or, once you hit logging of time are you out of there, sharpish?

Could you not claim the extra hours work? Do they know you have to stay extra to keep on top of your work?

I really feel for you OP if there's nothing you can do

No...can't claim them back. We are targeted and if we don't hit them then no bonus!

And tbh I really want/need the bonus.

Any concerns raised with 'them' fall on deaf ears. Time and time again I have raised this issue. I can see others also struggling but nothing much changes. Ultimately, I suppose it's down to me to leave but truth I need a kick up the bum.

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By *nabelle21 OP Woman
over a year ago

B38

"Time for a new job, OP ! You're smart, hard working, great social skills and a positive attitude. Loads of better employers would be lucky to have you.

Ah Leo...you're too kind xx

Give us a job!

I'm putting you down as a reference when I look for a new job

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham

"Time for a new job, OP ! You're smart, hard working, great social skills and a positive attitude. Loads of better employers would be lucky to have you.

Ah Leo...you're too kind xx

Give us a job!

I'm putting you down as a reference when I look for a new job

Can you do what I do?

Might be better than the twatwaffling-cockwombles I currently have "working" for me

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By *cotCouple666Couple
over a year ago

Central Belt

I used to stay hours over finishing time, just to make the next day a little easier, not only for myself but for my team as well. I couldn't switch off and it was mentally draining. I stopped when others on my level were being rewarded for doing the bare minimum and I didn't even get a "thank you" for all the extra work I was doing.

Now I make sure I clock out on time every day, and any extra time I do is given back. I refuse to give more of myself to an employer that only views me as a number.

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By *rofessor ElementalMan
over a year ago

Durham

Good will is growing very thin in my workplace as to all the extra hours put in.

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By *nabelle21 OP Woman
over a year ago

B38

"Stop staying without pay.

If your workload is unmanageable in the time you're being paid to work then talk to whoever is above you about delegating some of it elsewhere or paying you for the extra time."

I know that I really shouldn't be doing it. And whilst they are getting results they don't really care! They say they do but there actions don't say the same.

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
over a year ago

BRIDPORT

"I am paid hourly and nearly every flaming day I work at least an hour over without pay just to stay on top of my work load.

Just 1 hour a day over a month is a lot of hours. Almost a weeks wages!

I am just having a moan, I worked an hour an hour over today

Anyone else have to put in extra unpaid hours?

Or, once you hit logging of time are you out of there, sharpish?

Could you not claim the extra hours work? Do they know you have to stay extra to keep on top of your work?

I really feel for you OP if there's nothing you can do

No...can't claim them back. We are targeted and if we don't hit them then no bonus!

And tbh I really want/need the bonus.

This is probably an unpopular comment, but………..

If you are getting a bonus for hitting the target, that has been achieved by your additional commitment, then you are being remunerated for the additional hours.

If you chose not to do the extra hours, thus missing the target you would not get the bonus.

I’m guessing this might not be the answer you wanted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I used to do shed loads of free overtime.. At least 15-25 hours a week

I've now moved to a 9 day fortnight.. The work doesn't go away, but i feel better

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

If you arrived an hour late or left an hour early every day I wonder what they'd say

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"I am paid hourly and nearly every flaming day I work at least an hour over without pay just to stay on top of my work load.

Just 1 hour a day over a month is a lot of hours. Almost a weeks wages!

I am just having a moan, I worked an hour an hour over today

Anyone else have to put in extra unpaid hours?

Or, once you hit logging of time are you out of there, sharpish?"

It's a bad habit giving them free time. Once you start you don't stop. I had one boss used to send me home at going home time.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Also remember this. The person who makes the least effort is paid the same as the person making the most.

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
over a year ago

Carlisle usually

"I know that I really shouldn't be doing it. And whilst they are getting results they don't really care! They say they do but there actions don't say the same.

They're getting the results in their budget because you choose to give them your extra time and energy for free. They'll soon notice when targets are being missed because they won't pay.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"I am paid hourly and nearly every flaming day I work at least an hour over without pay just to stay on top of my work load.

Just 1 hour a day over a month is a lot of hours. Almost a weeks wages!

I am just having a moan, I worked an hour an hour over today

Anyone else have to put in extra unpaid hours?

Or, once you hit logging of time are you out of there, sharpish?

Could you not claim the extra hours work? Do they know you have to stay extra to keep on top of your work?

I really feel for you OP if there's nothing you can do

No...can't claim them back. We are targeted and if we don't hit them then no bonus!

And tbh I really want/need the bonus.

This is probably an unpopular comment, but………..

If you are getting a bonus for hitting the target, that has been achieved by your additional commitment, then you are being remunerated for the additional hours.

If you chose not to do the extra hours, thus missing the target you would not get the bonus.

I’m guessing this might not be the answer you wanted. "

Targets should be achievable within designated hours.

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By *nabelle21 OP Woman
over a year ago

B38

"I am paid hourly and nearly every flaming day I work at least an hour over without pay just to stay on top of my work load.

Just 1 hour a day over a month is a lot of hours. Almost a weeks wages!

I am just having a moan, I worked an hour an hour over today

Anyone else have to put in extra unpaid hours?

Or, once you hit logging of time are you out of there, sharpish?

Could you not claim the extra hours work? Do they know you have to stay extra to keep on top of your work?

I really feel for you OP if there's nothing you can do

No...can't claim them back. We are targeted and if we don't hit them then no bonus!

And tbh I really want/need the bonus.

This is probably an unpopular comment, but………..

If you are getting a bonus for hitting the target, that has been achieved by your additional commitment, then you are being remunerated for the additional hours.

If you chose not to do the extra hours, thus missing the target you would not get the bonus.

I’m guessing this might not be the answer you wanted.

Targets should be achievable within designated hours."

I think so too. I really don't mind working hard to achieve them in the allotted time.

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By *nabelle21 OP Woman
over a year ago

B38

"If you arrived an hour late or left an hour early every day I wonder what they'd say "

I'd be sacked!

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
over a year ago

Reading

I don't as I would then have to lie on my timesheet.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"I am paid hourly and nearly every flaming day I work at least an hour over without pay just to stay on top of my work load.

Just 1 hour a day over a month is a lot of hours. Almost a weeks wages!

I am just having a moan, I worked an hour an hour over today

Anyone else have to put in extra unpaid hours?

Or, once you hit logging of time are you out of there, sharpish?

Could you not claim the extra hours work? Do they know you have to stay extra to keep on top of your work?

I really feel for you OP if there's nothing you can do

No...can't claim them back. We are targeted and if we don't hit them then no bonus!

And tbh I really want/need the bonus.

This is probably an unpopular comment, but………..

If you are getting a bonus for hitting the target, that has been achieved by your additional commitment, then you are being remunerated for the additional hours.

If you chose not to do the extra hours, thus missing the target you would not get the bonus.

I’m guessing this might not be the answer you wanted.

Targets should be achievable within designated hours.

I think so too. I really don't mind working hard to achieve them in the allotted time.

In my opinion you work overtime and get paid for it. A bonus is something given as an extra for achieving a target. The end result might be the same but one way causes resentment.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

Worth talking to a union. Nothing militant but they are taking the piss out of you all for doing it every day.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"If you arrived an hour late or left an hour early every day I wonder what they'd say

I'd be sacked!"

Exactly. Too many employers seem to think their employees should be grateful to them.

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
over a year ago

BRIDPORT

"I am paid hourly and nearly every flaming day I work at least an hour over without pay just to stay on top of my work load.

Just 1 hour a day over a month is a lot of hours. Almost a weeks wages!

I am just having a moan, I worked an hour an hour over today

Anyone else have to put in extra unpaid hours?

Or, once you hit logging of time are you out of there, sharpish?

Could you not claim the extra hours work? Do they know you have to stay extra to keep on top of your work?

I really feel for you OP if there's nothing you can do

No...can't claim them back. We are targeted and if we don't hit them then no bonus!

And tbh I really want/need the bonus.

This is probably an unpopular comment, but………..

If you are getting a bonus for hitting the target, that has been achieved by your additional commitment, then you are being remunerated for the additional hours.

If you chose not to do the extra hours, thus missing the target you would not get the bonus.

I’m guessing this might not be the answer you wanted.

Targets should be achievable within designated hours."

Then there would be no requirement for a bonus.

The fact that your wages are being added too with a bonus is payment in recognition of the extra work you have done to achieve the target.

I am merely pointing out that the extra work someone does is being paid.

You are not getting the money week on week but in the bonus.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

Your employment Contract will have a grievance procedure which you can use without further recourse.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"I am paid hourly and nearly every flaming day I work at least an hour over without pay just to stay on top of my work load.

Just 1 hour a day over a month is a lot of hours. Almost a weeks wages!

I am just having a moan, I worked an hour an hour over today

Anyone else have to put in extra unpaid hours?

Or, once you hit logging of time are you out of there, sharpish?

Could you not claim the extra hours work? Do they know you have to stay extra to keep on top of your work?

I really feel for you OP if there's nothing you can do

No...can't claim them back. We are targeted and if we don't hit them then no bonus!

And tbh I really want/need the bonus.

This is probably an unpopular comment, but………..

If you are getting a bonus for hitting the target, that has been achieved by your additional commitment, then you are being remunerated for the additional hours.

If you chose not to do the extra hours, thus missing the target you would not get the bonus.

I’m guessing this might not be the answer you wanted.

Targets should be achievable within designated hours.

Then there would be no requirement for a bonus.

The fact that your wages are being added too with a bonus is payment in recognition of the extra work you have done to achieve the target.

I am merely pointing out that the extra work someone does is being paid.

You are not getting the money week on week but in the bonus.

As I understand it a bonus is in addition to wages, not instead of. I wouldn't expect to have to work extra hours for a Christmas bonus for instance

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By *ig1gaz1Man
over a year ago

bradford

No...can't claim them back. We are targeted and if we don't hit them then no bonus!

And tbh I really want/need the bonus.

of coarse it will fall on deaf ears as your all doing the work in your own time .

another note is your all wanting your bonuses.

to be honest here youve all shot yourself in the foot

you all want your bonuses so of coarse your goiung to do the extra hrs work for them.

the one thing your going to have to consider here is the bonus worth the extra free hrs you put in to get it.

is it worth the hrs or isnt it.

you decide if it or isnt no point finishing because of it.

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By *ig1gaz1Man
over a year ago

bradford

yes I do overtime without pay.

But at end of week that time is given back as we go home early.

so the hrs are made up.

some jobs you cant do that.

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By *hePerkyPumpkinTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol

What would happen if you stopped working the extra time and just let your work pile up?

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
over a year ago

BRIDPORT

As I understand it a bonus is in addition to wages, not instead of. I wouldn't expect to have to work extra hours for a Christmas bonus for instance"

You get the bonus for achieving the target, if the target is achievable in normal working hours then basically you are suggesting that you should get a bonus for doing what you have been paid to do.

I believe a bonus is paid in recognition of going the extra mile.

The choice is down to the individual, work your stated hours and get your basic pay, or put in the extra hours and get paid a bonus.

I did preface my original comment by saying it was probably an unpopular opinion but it is, none the less, my opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am paid hourly and nearly every flaming day I work at least an hour over without pay just to stay on top of my work load.

Just 1 hour a day over a month is a lot of hours. Almost a weeks wages!

I am just having a moan, I worked an hour an hour over today

Anyone else have to put in extra unpaid hours?

Or, once you hit logging of time are you out of there, sharpish?

Could you not claim the extra hours work? Do they know you have to stay extra to keep on top of your work?

I really feel for you OP if there's nothing you can do

No...can't claim them back. We are targeted and if we don't hit them then no bonus!

And tbh I really want/need the bonus.

This is probably an unpopular comment, but………..

If you are getting a bonus for hitting the target, that has been achieved by your additional commitment, then you are being remunerated for the additional hours.

If you chose not to do the extra hours, thus missing the target you would not get the bonus.

I’m guessing this might not be the answer you wanted.

Targets should be achievable within designated hours.

I think so too. I really don't mind working hard to achieve them in the allotted time.

Some places take the absolute piss out of their employees knowing their still going to do the hours even if they complain. They've got you over a barrel as they know you want your bonus but at what point do you finally say enough is enough?

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By *ttentiveRabbitMan
over a year ago

Lymington

Keep doing it and it will be taken as the new standard.

I understand your frustration, I'm self employed and customers do it to me.

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

Short answer ~ I am out!

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By *nabelle21 OP Woman
over a year ago

B38

"I am paid hourly and nearly every flaming day I work at least an hour over without pay just to stay on top of my work load.

Just 1 hour a day over a month is a lot of hours. Almost a weeks wages!

I am just having a moan, I worked an hour an hour over today

Anyone else have to put in extra unpaid hours?

Or, once you hit logging of time are you out of there, sharpish?

Could you not claim the extra hours work? Do they know you have to stay extra to keep on top of your work?

I really feel for you OP if there's nothing you can do

No...can't claim them back. We are targeted and if we don't hit them then no bonus!

And tbh I really want/need the bonus.

This is probably an unpopular comment, but………..

If you are getting a bonus for hitting the target, that has been achieved by your additional commitment, then you are being remunerated for the additional hours.

If you chose not to do the extra hours, thus missing the target you would not get the bonus.

I’m guessing this might not be the answer you wanted.

Targets should be achievable within designated hours.

I think so too. I really don't mind working hard to achieve them in the allotted time.

Yes, I think so too.

At my place of work I am not certainly not alone in feeling this way. Without the bonus the wages are not great and achieving the bonus is really difficult. It's like dangling a carrot that you can't quite reach!

So people, me work outside if the hours to achieve it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am paid hourly and nearly every flaming day I work at least an hour over without pay just to stay on top of my work load.

Just 1 hour a day over a month is a lot of hours. Almost a weeks wages!

I am just having a moan, I worked an hour an hour over today

Anyone else have to put in extra unpaid hours?

Or, once you hit logging of time are you out of there, sharpish?

Could you not claim the extra hours work? Do they know you have to stay extra to keep on top of your work?

I really feel for you OP if there's nothing you can do

No...can't claim them back. We are targeted and if we don't hit them then no bonus!

And tbh I really want/need the bonus.

This is probably an unpopular comment, but………..

If you are getting a bonus for hitting the target, that has been achieved by your additional commitment, then you are being remunerated for the additional hours.

If you chose not to do the extra hours, thus missing the target you would not get the bonus.

I’m guessing this might not be the answer you wanted.

Targets should be achievable within designated hours.

I think so too. I really don't mind working hard to achieve them in the allotted time.

Yes, I think so too.

So people, me work outside if the hours to achieve it.

Like someone said above does the bonus only really cover the extra hours you put in for it anyway so it becomes pointless. Sounds totally crap for you. I like where I work the ladies would put up mutiny if they had to work even a minute over hours, it just wouldnt happen but realise all industries are different.

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By *nabelle21 OP Woman
over a year ago

B38

"Keep doing it and it will be taken as the new standard.

I understand your frustration, I'm self employed and customers do it to me.

That's the real kicker....by achieving the bonus they think they are reasonable. People can't afford to make a stand and forgo the bonus so they put in the extra graft,

which only reinforces their practice. It's a vicious circle.

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By *ryandseeMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire

In most jobs, especially managerial lobs you just work for as long as it takes. It has be ome the norm in this country unfortunately and technology had not helped either. What manager can ignore an urgent email that comes through to their phone? All the people I know work 10 -12 hour days most of the time when they are supposed to do 7.5 - 8 according to their contract and they often have to do extra work at weekend. This may be different for you but in most places pt hourly paid staff usually just do their hours but obviously depends on the nature of the job, targets etc. Sadly in your care it seems you are expected to do more but not given the time to do it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am paid hourly and nearly every flaming day I work at least an hour over without pay just to stay on top of my work load.

Just 1 hour a day over a month is a lot of hours. Almost a weeks wages!

I am just having a moan, I worked an hour an hour over today

Anyone else have to put in extra unpaid hours?

Or, once you hit logging of time are you out of there, sharpish?

Could you not claim the extra hours work? Do they know you have to stay extra to keep on top of your work?

I really feel for you OP if there's nothing you can do

No...can't claim them back. We are targeted and if we don't hit them then no bonus!

And tbh I really want/need the bonus.

This is probably an unpopular comment, but………..

If you are getting a bonus for hitting the target, that has been achieved by your additional commitment, then you are being remunerated for the additional hours.

If you chose not to do the extra hours, thus missing the target you would not get the bonus.

I’m guessing this might not be the answer you wanted.

Targets should be achievable within designated hours.

I think so too. I really don't mind working hard to achieve them in the allotted time.

Yes, I think so too.

So people, me work outside if the hours to achieve it.

This maybe a silly question but could you not find somewhere that looks after their employees welfare and that pays more? What would they say if you put your notice in, would they sit down and listen to you?

I must admit I feel I'm lucky in my job, I only occasionally work over my hours but that's generally my choice to get something finished, my work doesn't expect me to do it which makes me feel like I don't mind. It also works both ways as if I need to go to an appointment for doctors, dentist or hospital appointment that can only be done during my work hours they're happy for me to go and don't expect me to make the time up. It's give and take and means happy employees happy work place x

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By *nabelle21 OP Woman
over a year ago

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"I am paid hourly and nearly every flaming day I work at least an hour over without pay just to stay on top of my work load.

Just 1 hour a day over a month is a lot of hours. Almost a weeks wages!

I am just having a moan, I worked an hour an hour over today

Anyone else have to put in extra unpaid hours?

Or, once you hit logging of time are you out of there, sharpish?

Could you not claim the extra hours work? Do they know you have to stay extra to keep on top of your work?

I really feel for you OP if there's nothing you can do

No...can't claim them back. We are targeted and if we don't hit them then no bonus!

And tbh I really want/need the bonus.

This is probably an unpopular comment, but………..

If you are getting a bonus for hitting the target, that has been achieved by your additional commitment, then you are being remunerated for the additional hours.

If you chose not to do the extra hours, thus missing the target you would not get the bonus.

I’m guessing this might not be the answer you wanted.

Targets should be achievable within designated hours.

I think so too. I really don't mind working hard to achieve them in the allotted time.

Yes, I think so too.

So people, me work outside if the hours to achieve it.

Watch this space, for more than one reason I think it's time to move on. I think one of the reasons I've stayed so long is that I have some great working relationships, a great work family. It's takes a while to become established there, If I were to put my notice in management would be very surprised. And yes, they would listen just as they have done to many others...it never amounts to anything. I have literally fought in the past to make tiny changes and to be honest it's just too much like hard work!

I'm glad you have a job that makes you feel valued and yes ..I too wouldn't mind putting in extra time now and then to get the job done. After al, I want to do a good job as crappy as it is x

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