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"Nope he was a shite manager ( Mr) " I see yes, so not that good manager. | |||
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"Terrible results, even worse football. He’s not a manager, he’s been found out pretty quickly. " Yes, it is harder to be a manager, at least he did try it. | |||
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"Everton are second from bottom in the premier league, and only not last due to goal difference. FL has been manager for just under a year and they continue to struggle." I see yes, they arent so high in the league table either. | |||
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"I just heard about it, but dont know so much about it, do you? Apparently they fired the everton manager after the defeat by west ham, is it just down to that or is there something more to it?" Yeah it's just because of the West Ham game. Nothing to do with all the other defeats including 4 on the bounce at home and the fact they are almost bottom of the table. | |||
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"Nope he was a shite manager ( Mr) " Play off Final with Derby. Top four and Cup Final with Chelsea despite transfer ban. Kept Everton up last season. Then had his best player sold and net spend of just £10m. Good man and a decent manager at a basket case of a club. | |||
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"That's the 5th manager in 6 years, it can't all be blamed on the manger" All good managers too, look at Marco Silva now at Fulham. | |||
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"That's the 5th manager in 6 years, it can't all be blamed on the manger" That’s very true. Crap team too | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 23/01/23 20:59:28]" I saw that ! #SuperFrank | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 23/01/23 20:59:28] I saw that ! #SuperFrank " Yeah, I was a bit hasty but now you've caught me out #SuperWank more like | |||
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"hes bad but the people higher up are as bad talk of rooney taking over " To be fair to Rooney, in his first season he kept Derby up despite making no signings and having no money to spend on players. In his second season, he very nearly kept them up again even after having 20-odd points deducted. He knows the club inside out and has a track record of getting the best out of less talented players without spending money. They could do a lot worse than get him on board | |||
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"hes bad but the people higher up are as bad talk of rooney taking over To be fair to Rooney, in his first season he kept Derby up despite making no signings and having no money to spend on players. In his second season, he very nearly kept them up again even after having 20-odd points deducted. He knows the club inside out and has a track record of getting the best out of less talented players without spending money. They could do a lot worse than get him on board " Fair points. Is Duncan Ferguson still at the club? | |||
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"hes bad but the people higher up are as bad talk of rooney taking over To be fair to Rooney, in his first season he kept Derby up despite making no signings and having no money to spend on players. In his second season, he very nearly kept them up again even after having 20-odd points deducted. He knows the club inside out and has a track record of getting the best out of less talented players without spending money. They could do a lot worse than get him on board Fair points. Is Duncan Ferguson still at the club?" No, he left last summer | |||
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"He was dealt a dreadful hand, which he played poorly. Baffling decision to leave it this late,a week to go in January and on top of that, the profiles of the managers being linked couldn't be more different. Better managers available but there are a lot of players in that squad that aren't up to it, worse there's serious discontent in the squad. If anyone pulls this around, they'll be up for manager of the season. " I had them to go down at the start of the season. The club stinks at the moment. | |||
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"I thought they were mint." Doesn't seem many got that | |||
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"I thought they were mint. Doesn't seem many got that" *Whoosh* went the little joke | |||
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"I hope they go down anyway, horrible club with horrible entitled, bitter fans" Why do you call them bitter ? | |||
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"I thought they were mint. Doesn't seem many got that" It didn't seem to stick | |||
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"Nope he was a shite manager ( Mr) I see yes, so not that good manager. ( Mr) personally I never rated him , maybe a lower league manager to start with to gain experience " Yes. I think the same, that he started to high, by going lower league he will gain more experience, then later he could come back and manage a bigger club | |||
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"I’m assuming as you don’t know much about it, that you don’t follow football? Frank Lampard is a shocking manager, he failed with Derby, he failed with Chelsea, dropping them both lower in the table than what they were when he took over them. He’s also taken Everton from 16th to 19th …. Not looking like they’re getting any better, their form has been poor to say the least, and they’re now in a relegation battle, which I personally, think is too much, for a relatively inexperienced manager, to handle. It’ll be interesting to see who they get to take over! Mrs " I do follow football, but not as much and yes, it will be interesting to see who will take over it. | |||
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"hes bad but the people higher up are as bad talk of rooney taking over To be fair to Rooney, in his first season he kept Derby up despite making no signings and having no money to spend on players. In his second season, he very nearly kept them up again even after having 20-odd points deducted. He knows the club inside out and has a track record of getting the best out of less talented players without spending money. They could do a lot worse than get him on board " Ah come on, 'knows the club', what does that even mean?? And as for this track record you speak, thats just not nearly enough to manage someone like everton. If they appoint him they might as well just prepare for the champ right now | |||
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"He was dealt a dreadful hand, which he played poorly. Baffling decision to leave it this late,a week to go in January and on top of that, the profiles of the managers being linked couldn't be more different. Better managers available but there are a lot of players in that squad that aren't up to it, worse there's serious discontent in the squad. If anyone pulls this around, they'll be up for manager of the season. " Its not that big an ask. Its january and they're only 2 points from safety | |||
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"Nope he was a shite manager ( Mr) I see yes, so not that good manager. ( Mr) personally I never rated him , maybe a lower league manager to start with to gain experience Yes. I think the same, that he started to high, by going lower league he will gain more experience, then later he could come back and manage a bigger club " Thats not going to happen. He wont do lower division work anymore If hes lucky, hell get on the PL managerial merry-go-round ala pardew, allardyce, pulis, hughes etc If not, he'll just do some punditry. Neither is a bad gig | |||
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"hes bad but the people higher up are as bad talk of rooney taking over To be fair to Rooney, in his first season he kept Derby up despite making no signings and having no money to spend on players. In his second season, he very nearly kept them up again even after having 20-odd points deducted. He knows the club inside out and has a track record of getting the best out of less talented players without spending money. They could do a lot worse than get him on board Ah come on, 'knows the club', what does that even mean?? And as for this track record you speak, thats just not nearly enough to manage someone like everton. If they appoint him they might as well just prepare for the champ right now" So what is "enough" to manage someone like Everton then? Everton are not a big club anymore, they've run themselves in to the dirt through years of being horribly run. In their current state they're not going to attract a top class manager. As for track records....Keegan had no management experience when he took over Newcastle. Zidane had none at first team level when he took over Real and won 3 Champions Leagues. Guardiola had none at first team level when to turned Barca into one of the best clubs sides ever seen. Rooney has cut his teeth at a lower level already and has far more of a track record than any of those did | |||
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"hes bad but the people higher up are as bad talk of rooney taking over To be fair to Rooney, in his first season he kept Derby up despite making no signings and having no money to spend on players. In his second season, he very nearly kept them up again even after having 20-odd points deducted. He knows the club inside out and has a track record of getting the best out of less talented players without spending money. They could do a lot worse than get him on board Ah come on, 'knows the club', what does that even mean?? And as for this track record you speak, thats just not nearly enough to manage someone like everton. If they appoint him they might as well just prepare for the champ right now So what is "enough" to manage someone like Everton then? Everton are not a big club anymore, they've run themselves in to the dirt through years of being horribly run. In their current state they're not going to attract a top class manager. As for track records....Keegan had no management experience when he took over Newcastle. Zidane had none at first team level when he took over Real and won 3 Champions Leagues. Guardiola had none at first team level when to turned Barca into one of the best clubs sides ever seen. Rooney has cut his teeth at a lower level already and has far more of a track record than any of those did" Sorry, the exceptions dont prove the rule. What other PL club in danger would hire rooney now? None. So everton would be hiring him on the basis of nothing other than familiarity He may turn out to be a good manager in time, but everton can risk that now purely on sentiment | |||
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"Big Sam? " They did that a few years back. Surely not again | |||
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"hes bad but the people higher up are as bad talk of rooney taking over To be fair to Rooney, in his first season he kept Derby up despite making no signings and having no money to spend on players. In his second season, he very nearly kept them up again even after having 20-odd points deducted. He knows the club inside out and has a track record of getting the best out of less talented players without spending money. They could do a lot worse than get him on board Ah come on, 'knows the club', what does that even mean?? And as for this track record you speak, thats just not nearly enough to manage someone like everton. If they appoint him they might as well just prepare for the champ right now So what is "enough" to manage someone like Everton then? Everton are not a big club anymore, they've run themselves in to the dirt through years of being horribly run. In their current state they're not going to attract a top class manager. As for track records....Keegan had no management experience when he took over Newcastle. Zidane had none at first team level when he took over Real and won 3 Champions Leagues. Guardiola had none at first team level when to turned Barca into one of the best clubs sides ever seen. Rooney has cut his teeth at a lower level already and has far more of a track record than any of those did Sorry, the exceptions dont prove the rule. What other PL club in danger would hire rooney now? None. So everton would be hiring him on the basis of nothing other than familiarity He may turn out to be a good manager in time, but everton can risk that now purely on sentiment" Ok.....so who would be an acceptable appointment then? | |||
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"Nope he was a shite manager ( Mr) I see yes, so not that good manager. ( Mr) personally I never rated him , maybe a lower league manager to start with to gain experience Yes. I think the same, that he started to high, by going lower league he will gain more experience, then later he could come back and manage a bigger club Thats not going to happen. He wont do lower division work anymore If hes lucky, hell get on the PL managerial merry-go-round ala pardew, allardyce, pulis, hughes etc If not, he'll just do some punditry. Neither is a bad gig " Yes, we will see what kind of job he will get. I like this saying, "start low, aim high". | |||
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"hes bad but the people higher up are as bad talk of rooney taking over To be fair to Rooney, in his first season he kept Derby up despite making no signings and having no money to spend on players. In his second season, he very nearly kept them up again even after having 20-odd points deducted. He knows the club inside out and has a track record of getting the best out of less talented players without spending money. They could do a lot worse than get him on board Ah come on, 'knows the club', what does that even mean?? And as for this track record you speak, thats just not nearly enough to manage someone like everton. If they appoint him they might as well just prepare for the champ right now So what is "enough" to manage someone like Everton then? Everton are not a big club anymore, they've run themselves in to the dirt through years of being horribly run. In their current state they're not going to attract a top class manager. As for track records....Keegan had no management experience when he took over Newcastle. Zidane had none at first team level when he took over Real and won 3 Champions Leagues. Guardiola had none at first team level when to turned Barca into one of the best clubs sides ever seen. Rooney has cut his teeth at a lower level already and has far more of a track record than any of those did Sorry, the exceptions dont prove the rule. What other PL club in danger would hire rooney now? None. So everton would be hiring him on the basis of nothing other than familiarity He may turn out to be a good manager in time, but everton can risk that now purely on sentiment Ok.....so who would be an acceptable appointment then?" Cant think of any off the top of my head to be honest...hopefully the everton board are casting the net wide | |||
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"I just heard about it, but dont know so much about it, do you? Apparently they fired the everton manager after the defeat by west ham, is it just down to that or is there something more to it?" There's loads more to it. Thevclub is rotten to the core | |||
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"Poor manager of a crap club was bound to happen. But with no money to spend who would want the job? " Crap club my arse | |||
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"I hope they go down anyway, horrible club with horrible entitled, bitter fans" Again my arse | |||
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"Has to be Stevie G He's Red " So were Rafa. Ablett, Burrows, Beardsley and a few others…. | |||
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"Has to be Stevie G He's Red So were Rafa. Ablett, Burrows, Beardsley and a few others…." How well did Everton do under Rafa etc?! My Dad remembers Everton as being THE team to beat. It's sad that they're languishing like they are. But, I'm a White, so........... | |||
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"I thought they were mint. Doesn't seem many got that *Whoosh* went the little joke " I liked it! Should've had more praise. Lampard: great footballer, so-so manager | |||
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"I just heard about it, but dont know so much about it, do you? Apparently they fired the everton manager after the defeat by west ham, is it just down to that or is there something more to it? Yeah it's just because of the West Ham game. Nothing to do with all the other defeats including 4 on the bounce at home and the fact they are almost bottom of the table. " Yes, it is because of those things as well. | |||
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"He has spent loads of money and they are shite" What money did he spend? Net? | |||
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"Has to be Stevie G He's Red So were Rafa. Ablett, Burrows, Beardsley and a few others…. How well did Everton do under Rafa etc?! Success wasn’t the issue you raised, the shirt colour was…. My Dad remembers Everton as being THE team to beat. It's sad that they're languishing like they are. But, I'm a White, so..........." | |||
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"Interesting that Gerrard and Lampard have both turned into poor managers after both being excellent players" Im not quite sure thats fair on gerrard yet. He did very well with rangers, started well with villa but went off the boil. I would reserve judgement on him for a while yet, at least until we see how he fares in his next role | |||
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"Interesting that Gerrard and Lampard have both turned into poor managers after both being excellent players Im not quite sure thats fair on gerrard yet. He did very well with rangers, started well with villa but went off the boil. I would reserve judgement on him for a while yet, at least until we see how he fares in his next role" He’s shite, just like Lampard. Doing well in Scotland means nothing - Neil Lennon even managed that. They got big jobs because of their names and who they played for. Really unfair on good up and coming managers who work their way through the lower leagues. And yet Lampard and Gerrard will continue to get big jobs, and fail. | |||
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"Interesting that Gerrard and Lampard have both turned into poor managers after both being excellent players" Many of the top managers were pretty average players. Ferguson, Wenger, even Pep. Clough is one of the few exceptions. | |||
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"Interesting that Gerrard and Lampard have both turned into poor managers after both being excellent players Many of the top managers were pretty average players. Ferguson, Wenger, even Pep. Clough is one of the few exceptions. " Pep was a fantastic player. One of the top MFs of his generation | |||
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"Interesting that Gerrard and Lampard have both turned into poor managers after both being excellent players" Neither have turned into poor managers. | |||
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"Interesting that Gerrard and Lampard have both turned into poor managers after both being excellent players Many of the top managers were pretty average players. Ferguson, Wenger, even Pep. Clough is one of the few exceptions. Pep was a fantastic player. One of the top MFs of his generation" Sorry, my mistake. Point stands though- a good player doesn’t necessarily equal a good manager. | |||
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"He’s a shite manager plus there’s also talk of a bust up with a player" He did have some interesting rules with fines associated, which might have been unpopular with some players. | |||
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"Interesting that Gerrard and Lampard have both turned into poor managers after both being excellent players Im not quite sure thats fair on gerrard yet. He did very well with rangers, started well with villa but went off the boil. I would reserve judgement on him for a while yet, at least until we see how he fares in his next role He’s shite, just like Lampard. Doing well in Scotland means nothing - Neil Lennon even managed that. They got big jobs because of their names and who they played for. Really unfair on good up and coming managers who work their way through the lower leagues. And yet Lampard and Gerrard will continue to get big jobs, and fail. " Most managers do fail. There are only 4 league winners a year and an fa Cup a year. | |||
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"Interesting that Gerrard and Lampard have both turned into poor managers after both being excellent players Many of the top managers were pretty average players. Ferguson, Wenger, even Pep. Clough is one of the few exceptions. " Mourinho, wenger.. Ancelotti, ranieri... | |||
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"Interesting that Gerrard and Lampard have both turned into poor managers after both being excellent players Many of the top managers were pretty average players. Ferguson, Wenger, even Pep. Clough is one of the few exceptions. Mourinho, wenger.. Ancelotti, ranieri... " Ancelotti was a good player and so was Pep | |||
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"Interesting that Gerrard and Lampard have both turned into poor managers after both being excellent players Many of the top managers were pretty average players. Ferguson, Wenger, even Pep. Clough is one of the few exceptions. Mourinho, wenger.. Ancelotti, ranieri... " Ancelotti played for one of the best teams of all time at AC Milan ! | |||
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"Interesting that Gerrard and Lampard have both turned into poor managers after both being excellent players Many of the top managers were pretty average players. Ferguson, Wenger, even Pep. Clough is one of the few exceptions. Mourinho, wenger.. Ancelotti, ranieri... Ancelotti played for one of the best teams of all time at AC Milan ! " 20 odd Italy caps and 2 European cups | |||
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"I feel like Lampard tried to run before he could walk. Got his coaching badges and immediately took charge of Derby County and ditched them the second the dream option of Chelsea appeared. He failed at Chelsea and now he has failed at Everton. Maybe a stint as an assistant manager or in to the lower leagues might help him out in future." We would have him at Oldham. | |||
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"He has spent loads of money and they are shite What money did he spend? Net? " About £27m nett. According to the item on the BBC sports pages. | |||
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"He has spent loads of money and they are shite What money did he spend? Net? About £27m nett. According to the item on the BBC sports pages." Is that loads.? Doesn't seem to be really for the prem. | |||
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"The only players in that Everton team that are not his signings are Pickford and Lewin. I believe all the rest are his signings?" Way off the mark, hes made 5 i think Codey was a decent signing, Ohnanna a great signing - Gauye , McNeil and Maupay shocking signings But who signed them, there is a director of football there | |||
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"The only players in that Everton team that are not his signings are Pickford and Lewin. I believe all the rest are his signings? Way off the mark, hes made 5 i think Codey was a decent signing, Ohnanna a great signing - Gauye , McNeil and Maupay shocking signings But who signed them, there is a director of football there " Don't forget the mighty delli alli and donny van de beek | |||
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"He has spent loads of money and they are shite What money did he spend? Net? About £27m nett. According to the item on the BBC sports pages. Is that loads.? Doesn't seem to be really for the prem. " No, it's a pittance in PL terms. | |||
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"Thing is its not the managers that are the problem, its a structual problem of the club that needs solving." Yes, the problem are also the structural one too. | |||
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"The only players in that Everton team that are not his signings are Pickford and Lewin. I believe all the rest are his signings? Way off the mark, hes made 5 i think Codey was a decent signing, Ohnanna a great signing - Gauye , McNeil and Maupay shocking signings But who signed them, there is a director of football there Don't forget the mighty delli alli and donny van de beek" oh fuck yes, sorry | |||
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"Carragher said it best when he said they are basically the worst run club in England… it’s a shambles!! There’s is no coherent plan… the owners don’t have a clue!!! Saying that… Arsenal go there a week on Saturday.. it’s one of those places that makes me worried! " No worries. Can't see them winning another game. Players have been a disgrace. | |||
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