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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Is there a good? Do you believe in an all encompassing omnipotent being, or is it complete hogwash developed by mankind

Given today's state of the world it's very easy to argue he is nothing but a figment of imagination...so, let's hear the argument for his existence

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

Hogwash

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
over a year ago

Carlisle usually

I'm not opposed to the idea of some sort of god or higher power structure. But I have none that I have found plausible enough to believe in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I keep my mind open. And if their faiths and beliefs is all they have and it draws comfort then it can't be a bad thing surely

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I'm not opposed to the idea of some sort of god or higher power structure. But I have none that I have found plausible enough to believe in."

The only high power structure that exists today is wealth, it's not what you can do for your fellow man, it's how much you can earn fucking them over

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I keep my mind open. And if their faiths and beliefs is all they have and it draws comfort then it can't be a bad thing surely "

Beleif causes wars ... Look to the middle East for examples

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I keep my mind open. And if their faiths and beliefs is all they have and it draws comfort then it can't be a bad thing surely

Beleif causes wars ... Look to the middle East for examples "

I never said it didn't did I?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I keep my mind open. And if their faiths and beliefs is all they have and it draws comfort then it can't be a bad thing surely

Beleif causes wars ... Look to the middle East for examples

I never said it didn't did I? "

Just playing devils advocate...but if no god, then how can the devil's advocate role exist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i used to.

but then my son died.. and i refuse to believe that to have been part of some 'devine plan' or whathaveyou. absolutely not.

i think it takes something massive to loose your faith, and when it does, for me anyway, it's never coming back.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

"I keep my mind open. And if their faiths and beliefs is all they have and it draws comfort then it can't be a bad thing surely

Beleif causes wars ... Look to the middle East for examples "

That is not a reason to say god(s) don't exist though.

Bit like aliens - simply because you haven't seen them doesn't mean you don't get ridiculed, put on meds or institutionalised.

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
over a year ago

Carlisle usually

"I'm not opposed to the idea of some sort of god or higher power structure. But I have none that I have found plausible enough to believe in.

The only high power structure that exists today is wealth, it's not what you can do for your fellow man, it's how much you can earn fucking them over"

Hey man I'm here for religious debate not political.

Obviously you're very solid in the no god camp, and that's okay.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"i used to.

but then my son died.. and i refuse to believe that to have been part of some 'devine plan' or whathaveyou. absolutely not.

i think it takes something massive to loose your faith, and when it does, for me anyway, it's never coming back.

Sorry for your loss, and couldn't agree more....I won't dwell on how that can be for greater good... because from your point of view it's senseless

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I keep my mind open. And if their faiths and beliefs is all they have and it draws comfort then it can't be a bad thing surely

Beleif causes wars ... Look to the middle East for examples

I never said it didn't did I?

Just playing devils advocate...but if no god, then how can the devil's advocate role exist

Exactly, the Devil is a Christian and Judaism concept so by acknowledging one you are acknowledging the other.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I keep my mind open. And if their faiths and beliefs is all they have and it draws comfort then it can't be a bad thing surely

Beleif causes wars ... Look to the middle East for examples

That is not a reason to say god(s) don't exist though.

Bit like aliens - simply because you haven't seen them doesn't mean you don't get ridiculed, put on meds or institutionalised. "

More evidence leads to existence of other life than a supreme being tho

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

If what I've experienced across my life and in particular, the past 6yrs, is some sort of trial, then the "divine creator" is an evil, sadistic twat and (s)he can go screw itself.

A so-called all-loving god that allows children to starve to death and be horrifically murdered or sexually abused etc? I think not. Irrespective of the arguments about free will, it seems utterly preposterous that a divine being would have created all this crap in the first place (someone must, presumably, have "designed" the ebola virus, for example?)

Nah, I'm firmly out of the religious camp, having been brought up in it all my life. The last straw was a vicar refusing to baptise my son because I was an unmarried mother

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I keep my mind open. And if their faiths and beliefs is all they have and it draws comfort then it can't be a bad thing surely

Beleif causes wars ... Look to the middle East for examples

I never said it didn't did I?

Just playing devils advocate...but if no god, then how can the devil's advocate role exist

Exactly, the Devil is a Christian and Judaism concept so by acknowledging one you are acknowledging the other.

Then I chose to be a mediator

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Depends how one defines ‘god’.

The Aristotlean prime move, first cause, spark of existence? Very likely.

Moral and benevolent invisible hand in the world? As a survivor of the holocaust put it, for that to happen either there is no god, or if there is he hates us. Sobering logic.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

"I keep my mind open. And if their faiths and beliefs is all they have and it draws comfort then it can't be a bad thing surely

Beleif causes wars ... Look to the middle East for examples

That is not a reason to say god(s) don't exist though.

Bit like aliens - simply because you haven't seen them doesn't mean you don't get ridiculed, put on meds or institutionalised.

More evidence leads to existence of other life than a supreme being tho"

So are we to judge supernatural events as Godly actions or just rational ones - wondering on you definition, they could be apparently be big or small miracles??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I keep my mind open. And if their faiths and beliefs is all they have and it draws comfort then it can't be a bad thing surely

Beleif causes wars ... Look to the middle East for examples

I never said it didn't did I?

Just playing devils advocate...but if no god, then how can the devil's advocate role exist

Exactly, the Devil is a Christian and Judaism concept so by acknowledging one you are acknowledging the other.

Then I chose to be a mediator "

A mediator for what? You don't believe in the common denominator that founds these concepts so that makes your mediation void does it not?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I keep my mind open. And if their faiths and beliefs is all they have and it draws comfort then it can't be a bad thing surely

Beleif causes wars ... Look to the middle East for examples

I never said it didn't did I?

Just playing devils advocate...but if no god, then how can the devil's advocate role exist

Exactly, the Devil is a Christian and Judaism concept so by acknowledging one you are acknowledging the other.

Then I chose to be a mediator

A mediator for what? You don't believe in the common denominator that founds these concepts so that makes your mediation void does it not?"

State me a case for his/there existence other than mankind's belief's

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is there a good? Do you believe in an all encompassing omnipotent being, or is it complete hogwash developed by mankind

Given today's state of the world it's very easy to argue he is nothing but a figment of imagination...so, let's hear the argument for his existence

Go!"

Man made co struct, to instill in fear, to control and way of getting revenue for religion, ffs in the medieval era you could buy absolution for your sins from the clergy....once was the opium for the masses, used buy the elitist bourgeois to keep the hoi polloi in there places, under the guise it is God's will for you to be born in a certain strata of society.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I keep my mind open. And if their faiths and beliefs is all they have and it draws comfort then it can't be a bad thing surely

Beleif causes wars ... Look to the middle East for examples

I never said it didn't did I?

Just playing devils advocate...but if no god, then how can the devil's advocate role exist

Exactly, the Devil is a Christian and Judaism concept so by acknowledging one you are acknowledging the other.

Then I chose to be a mediator

A mediator for what? You don't believe in the common denominator that founds these concepts so that makes your mediation void does it not?

State me a case for his/there existence other than mankind's belief's "

Have I said I believe? No I havent, I said I had an open mind on theological matters. I have given nothing away.

Now how can I do that when there is no physical evidence of that anywhere, we are dealing with opinions and ideas here remember, it's all theories.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Is there a good? Do you believe in an all encompassing omnipotent being, or is it complete hogwash developed by mankind

Given today's state of the world it's very easy to argue he is nothing but a figment of imagination...so, let's hear the argument for his existence

Go!

All well and good but using religion to financial gain doesn't wholly prove his existence except in a mental capacity

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By *ris GrayMan
over a year ago

Dorchester

"Is there a good? Do you believe in an all encompassing omnipotent being, or is it complete hogwash developed by mankind

Given today's state of the world it's very easy to argue he is nothing but a figment of imagination...so, let's hear the argument for his existence

Go!"
nope no good will cometh of it, the Earth was a process of evolution how could man create planet and their a trillions of planets in the solar system/galaxy did good create them all?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I keep my mind open. And if their faiths and beliefs is all they have and it draws comfort then it can't be a bad thing surely

Beleif causes wars ... Look to the middle East for examples

I never said it didn't did I?

Just playing devils advocate...but if no god, then how can the devil's advocate role exist

Exactly, the Devil is a Christian and Judaism concept so by acknowledging one you are acknowledging the other.

Then I chose to be a mediator

A mediator for what? You don't believe in the common denominator that founds these concepts so that makes your mediation void does it not?

State me a case for his/there existence other than mankind's belief's

Have I said I believe? No I havent, I said I had an open mind on theological matters. I have given nothing away.

Now how can I do that when there is no physical evidence of that anywhere, we are dealing with opinions and ideas here remember, it's all theories.

Exactly, religion over time has been used in a variety of ways without any truth or factual stats supporting a true existence...all we have are theories

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By *ris GrayMan
over a year ago

Dorchester

"Is there a good? Do you believe in an all encompassing omnipotent being, or is it complete hogwash developed by mankind

Given today's state of the world it's very easy to argue he is nothing but a figment of imagination...so, let's hear the argument for his existence

Go!nope no good will cometh of it, the Earth was a process of evolution how could man create planet and their a trillions of planets in the solar system/galaxy did good create them all?

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By *altyMouthsCouple
over a year ago

Aberdeen

"I keep my mind open. And if their faiths and beliefs is all they have and it draws comfort then it can't be a bad thing surely

Beleif causes wars ... Look to the middle East for examples "

Belief does not cause wars, people do. They hide behind Belief as a reason but there is usually greed or intolerance as a real reason.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

I've seen nothing to suggest that the Christian god exists.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I keep my mind open. And if their faiths and beliefs is all they have and it draws comfort then it can't be a bad thing surely

Beleif causes wars ... Look to the middle East for examples

Belief does not cause wars, people do. They hide behind Belief as a reason but there is usually greed or intolerance as a real reason. "

You are correct and incorrect both at the same time

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By *ris GrayMan
over a year ago

Dorchester

"I've seen nothing to suggest that the Christian god exists. "
you not going to church today young lady?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I keep my mind open. And if their faiths and beliefs is all they have and it draws comfort then it can't be a bad thing surely

Beleif causes wars ... Look to the middle East for examples

I never said it didn't did I?

Just playing devils advocate...but if no god, then how can the devil's advocate role exist

Exactly, the Devil is a Christian and Judaism concept so by acknowledging one you are acknowledging the other.

Then I chose to be a mediator

A mediator for what? You don't believe in the common denominator that founds these concepts so that makes your mediation void does it not?

State me a case for his/there existence other than mankind's belief's

Have I said I believe? No I havent, I said I had an open mind on theological matters. I have given nothing away.

Now how can I do that when there is no physical evidence of that anywhere, we are dealing with opinions and ideas here remember, it's all theories.

Exactly, religion over time has been used in a variety of ways without any truth or factual stats supporting a true existence...all we have are theories "

Exactly that. Have you studied Satanism at all? LeVeyan philosophy of Satanism is interesting and relatable, it's about empowering oneself and recognising individual liberty taking back control of Christian beliefs and ideals

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"I've seen nothing to suggest that the Christian god exists. you not going to church today young lady?

Only in the sense that Hozier sang 'Take Me to Church'

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

This has to be the worsteth debateth in history

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"This has to be the worsteth debateth in history "

Dude I have a lispeth

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

"This has to be the worsteth debateth in history

Dude I have a lispeth

Has lock jaw from trying to chatteh uppeth all the pusseyeth

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"This has to be the worsteth debateth in history

Dude I have a lispeth

Has lock jaw from trying to chatteh uppeth all the pusseyeth "

Now you're just taking the pith

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By *ris GrayMan
over a year ago

Dorchester

"I've seen nothing to suggest that the Christian god exists. you not going to church today young lady?

Only in the sense that Hozier sang 'Take Me to Church'

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By *hinyRavensWingMan
over a year ago

Hastings

I believe in energy. God is an invention.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hogwash created by mankinds need for an explanation into how the world works before being able to make scuentific discovery

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