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"I do, and my effect and affect. Practice and practise. Always struggle with stationary and stationery though, I can never remember which is which" Stationery has an ‘e’, for ‘envelope’ .  | |||
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"People only say grammar and spelling don’t matter as an excuse because they can’t spell or use grammar correctly. " Precisely! | |||
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"I do, and my effect and affect. Practice and practise. Always struggle with stationary and stationery though, I can never remember which is which Stationery has an ‘e’, for ‘envelope’ . "How have I never heard that before? I’ll never forget again  | |||
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"Who knows their there's from their they'res from their theirs? In todays world, does spelling and grammar even matter? Ps... I got a D in GCSE English so I'm under no illusion that I'm the bestest spellerer and grammarist "No excuse for bad spelling or grammar in my book. How on earth you don't know where to put a full stop is beyound me. | |||
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"I would add your and you’re " Oooo that one really gets me, along with its and it's | |||
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"Who knows their there's from their they'res from their theirs? In todays world, does spelling and grammar even matter? Ps... I got a D in GCSE English so I'm under no illusion that I'm the bestest spellerer and grammarist "I dont, can u learn me | |||
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Changes a whole sentence.
Though we do have to appreciate some people are dyslexic which makes it harder...
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"People only say grammar and spelling don’t matter as an excuse because they can’t spell or use grammar correctly. " What about people who are dyslexic? Don't think they would say it's an excuse  | |||
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"I know mine well, occasionally I get it wrong texting fast. It shouldn’t matter but unfortunately it does - many people make sweeping judgments about a person based on the type of education / upbringing they had. If you want to fuck or get recruited by one of those types , better comply to ‘there’ standards "I see what you did their | |||
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"Grammar is getting worser nowadays " 1984 Newspeak init ... Words being manipulated to have different meanings Just the word gay for example . Used to mean happy ..now it means homo | |||
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"If I can understand the general meaning of what someone is trying to say, I'm not going to get to hung up on what they could of said. It doesn't really effect me - its fairly simple to understand intention and what their trying to say. " Subtle  | |||
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"Are instead of our is the one that really grates me. " 100% agree | |||
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"If I can understand the general meaning of what someone is trying to say, I'm not going to get to hung up on what they could of said. It doesn't really effect me - its fairly simple to understand intention and what their trying to say. " They're * | |||
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"If I can understand the general meaning of what someone is trying to say, I'm not going to get to hung up on what they could of said. It doesn't really effect me - its fairly simple to understand intention and what their trying to say. Subtle " Grazie. | |||
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"I know mine well, occasionally I get it wrong texting fast. It shouldn’t matter but unfortunately it does - many people make sweeping judgments about a person based on the type of education / upbringing they had. If you want to fuck or get recruited by one of those types , better comply to ‘there’ standards
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"People only say grammar and spelling don’t matter as an excuse because they can’t spell or use grammar correctly. What about people who are dyslexic? Don't think they would say it's an excuse "Also for many on here English isn't their first language. | |||
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"I do, and my effect and affect. Practice and practise. Always struggle with stationary and stationery though, I can never remember which is which Stationery has an ‘e’, for ‘envelope’ . "Brilliant  | |||
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"The decline in grammatical abilities is partially responsible for some of the misunderstandings that occur online imho. " Good point | |||
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"Have seen on a restaurant chalkboard, all deserts £6 " it’s because the land isn’t very good for arable farming or livestock. Still seems like a bargain though | |||
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"As long as the meaning is clear it doesn't matter. Problems occur when text is either ambiguous or completely incomprehensible. " Surely, the different spelling of words is precisely to make it clear. | |||
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"I would add your and you’re Oooo that one really gets me, along with its and it's " 'It's is' short for 'it is' | |||
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"As long as the meaning is clear it doesn't matter. Problems occur when text is either ambiguous or completely incomprehensible. Surely, the different spelling of words is precisely to make it clear. " It is but I can usually work out that people mean 'too much' if they write 'to much' and ' I didn't go there' when they write ' I didn't go their' | |||
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"Yes, it is important if you want to be understood properly. Standards have certainly slipped. But these are basics we're taught in primary school. I see so many mixing 'his' and 'he's' around. People using 'are' when actually they mean 'our' The latest one is people dropping the 'h' from 'has' " So implicit meaning can't be gleaned from the content without basic correct grammar, I don't agree, if somebody mixes their words up, I still get the implict or explicit meaning to what there trying to convey to me. | |||
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"I think it’s very important to get this sort of thing correct. Language is a sort of game where we know the rules and interpret what we see by applying those rules. Yes, we can usually see what people mean, even when they write the wrong thing, but that’s only because we measure it against the rule we know them to be breaking. Slightly arguing against myself though, it’s interesting that so much of our language was built up before the rules of grammar and spelling were codified - Shakespeare and the King James Bible for example." I need a guide to read Chaucer. I had to have the text of Canterbury Tales in modern English to read alongside the original. I also need help with Shakespeare and the King James Bible. I can in all but the most extreme cases work out what all but the worst modern examples of bad grammar and spelling mean without help. | |||
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"I think it’s very important to get this sort of thing correct. Language is a sort of game where we know the rules and interpret what we see by applying those rules. Yes, we can usually see what people mean, even when they write the wrong thing, but that’s only because we measure it against the rule we know them to be breaking. Slightly arguing against myself though, it’s interesting that so much of our language was built up before the rules of grammar and spelling were codified - Shakespeare and the King James Bible for example. I need a guide to read Chaucer. I had to have the text of Canterbury Tales in modern English to read alongside the original. I also need help with Shakespeare and the King James Bible. I can in all but the most extreme cases work out what all but the worst modern examples of bad grammar and spelling mean without help. " I started reading A Pilgrim's Progress in its original text and gave up. It's hard work. If I want some Shakespeare I watch a Kenneth Brannagh film. | |||
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"If I can understand the general meaning of what someone is trying to say, I'm not going to get to hung up on what they could of said. It doesn't really effect me - its fairly simple to understand intention and what their trying to say. " 
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"I'm not that bothered about spelling. Call me bruv though "What about fam, bruv | |||
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"I would add your and you’re Oooo that one really gets me, along with its and it's " But it’s auto-spell doing it, honest! | |||
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"I think it’s very important to get this sort of thing correct. Language is a sort of game where we know the rules and interpret what we see by applying those rules. Yes, we can usually see what people mean, even when they write the wrong thing, but that’s only because we measure it against the rule we know them to be breaking. Slightly arguing against myself though, it’s interesting that so much of our language was built up before the rules of grammar and spelling were codified - Shakespeare and the King James Bible for example. I need a guide to read Chaucer. I had to have the text of Canterbury Tales in modern English to read alongside the original. I also need help with Shakespeare and the King James Bible. I can in all but the most extreme cases work out what all but the worst modern examples of bad grammar and spelling mean without help. " We all need help with those earlier texts, but that’s my point - whether it’s using a modern text for comparison, or just mentally correcting someone’s grammar so that it makes sense, we need to measure against agreed rules. If we just threw away rules, as I’ve heard some people propose, sooner or later we wo be able to work out what people mean. I’m encountering this also from the perspective of someone who’s learning a foreign language- when I find a rule, and through practise I understand that rule, I hold it dearly to my heart as a treasured guide through a maze. Rules seem less important when you already know a language, but I think that’s because we are more skilled in seeing where people break the rules. | |||
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"I would add your and you’re Oooo that one really gets me, along with its and it's But it’s auto-spell doing it, honest! " My auto-spell changes my to mu | |||
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"I think it’s very important to get this sort of thing correct. Language is a sort of game where we know the rules and interpret what we see by applying those rules. Yes, we can usually see what people mean, even when they write the wrong thing, but that’s only because we measure it against the rule we know them to be breaking. Slightly arguing against myself though, it’s interesting that so much of our language was built up before the rules of grammar and spelling were codified - Shakespeare and the King James Bible for example. I need a guide to read Chaucer. I had to have the text of Canterbury Tales in modern English to read alongside the original. I also need help with Shakespeare and the King James Bible. I can in all but the most extreme cases work out what all but the worst modern examples of bad grammar and spelling mean without help. We all need help with those earlier texts, but that’s my point - whether it’s using a modern text for comparison, or just mentally correcting someone’s grammar so that it makes sense, we need to measure against agreed rules. If we just threw away rules, as I’ve heard some people propose, sooner or later we wo be able to work out what people mean. I’m encountering this also from the perspective of someone who’s learning a foreign language- when I find a rule, and through practise I understand that rule, I hold it dearly to my heart as a treasured guide through a maze. Rules seem less important when you already know a language, but I think that’s because we are more skilled in seeing where people break the rules." I view language as less a set of laws, and more a tree or a forest. Rules describe the forest, they don't shape it. Which explains all the rules that make no apparent sense when you learn a language, and all the exceptions that might drive one potty. | |||
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"I think it’s very important to get this sort of thing correct. Language is a sort of game where we know the rules and interpret what we see by applying those rules. Yes, we can usually see what people mean, even when they write the wrong thing, but that’s only because we measure it against the rule we know them to be breaking. Slightly arguing against myself though, it’s interesting that so much of our language was built up before the rules of grammar and spelling were codified - Shakespeare and the King James Bible for example. I need a guide to read Chaucer. I had to have the text of Canterbury Tales in modern English to read alongside the original. I also need help with Shakespeare and the King James Bible. I can in all but the most extreme cases work out what all but the worst modern examples of bad grammar and spelling mean without help. I started reading A Pilgrim's Progress in its original text and gave up. It's hard work. If I want some Shakespeare I watch a Kenneth Brannagh film." I'm reading a biography of Elizabeth the first published in the mid 1950s, even the way that's written is less easy for me to understand than more modern ones I've read. My opinion is that language changes and as it's main purpose is to make ourselves understood by other people we need to change with it. Rules are necessary but being too pedantic about their application means we might miss out on some interesting communication. | |||
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"Who knows their there's from their they'res from their theirs? In todays world, does spelling and grammar even matter? Ps... I got a D in GCSE English so I'm under no illusion that I'm the bestest spellerer and grammarist
No excuse for bad spelling or grammar in my book. How on earth you don't know where to put a full stop is beyound me. "Beyound hahaha | |||
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"Actually I think a lot of this is caused by the English accent because I've found a lot of English people pronounce them so they sound the same. I am from South Wales valleys and we pronounce them quite differently so it's easy to know which word you need to use. THERE is pronounced "Th.. Hair". THEY'RE is pronounced " they rrr". And THIER is pronounced " they uh". Hard to spell them out to be honest. But theres a definate and easily heared sound difference to each of these words. Consequently I've personally never mixed them up. " Yeah, spoken language may have definitely contributed to it. Like people typing should of, could of, would of etc. | |||
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"Who knows their there's from their they'res from their theirs? In todays world, does spelling and grammar even matter? Ps... I got a D in GCSE English so I'm under no illusion that I'm the bestest spellerer and grammarist "Hear hear | |||
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" Yeah, spoken language may have definitely contributed to it. Like people typing should have, could have, would have etc." … are the last words of a fool. | |||
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"I think it’s very important to get this sort of thing correct. Language is a sort of game where we know the rules and interpret what we see by applying those rules. Yes, we can usually see what people mean, even when they write the wrong thing, but that’s only because we measure it against the rule we know them to be breaking. Slightly arguing against myself though, it’s interesting that so much of our language was built up before the rules of grammar and spelling were codified - Shakespeare and the King James Bible for example. I need a guide to read Chaucer. I had to have the text of Canterbury Tales in modern English to read alongside the original. I also need help with Shakespeare and the King James Bible. I can in all but the most extreme cases work out what all but the worst modern examples of bad grammar and spelling mean without help. I started reading A Pilgrim's Progress in its original text and gave up. It's hard work. If I want some Shakespeare I watch a Kenneth Brannagh film. I'm reading a biography of Elizabeth the first published in the mid 1950s, even the way that's written is less easy for me to understand than more modern ones I've read. My opinion is that language changes and as it's main purpose is to make ourselves understood by other people we need to change with it. Rules are necessary but being too pedantic about their application means we might miss out on some interesting communication." I completely agree that pedantry should be avoided. Also, as some have stated on here, that it’s not something to be judgemental about - hey, a serial killer could write the most immaculate English | |||
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"Grammar is getting worser nowadays " Must be her age | |||
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"I think it’s very important to get this sort of thing correct. Language is a sort of game where we know the rules and interpret what we see by applying those rules. Yes, we can usually see what people mean, even when they write the wrong thing, but that’s only because we measure it against the rule we know them to be breaking. Slightly arguing against myself though, it’s interesting that so much of our language was built up before the rules of grammar and spelling were codified - Shakespeare and the King James Bible for example. I need a guide to read Chaucer. I had to have the text of Canterbury Tales in modern English to read alongside the original. I also need help with Shakespeare and the King James Bible. I can in all but the most extreme cases work out what all but the worst modern examples of bad grammar and spelling mean without help. I started reading A Pilgrim's Progress in its original text and gave up. It's hard work. If I want some Shakespeare I watch a Kenneth Brannagh film. I'm reading a biography of Elizabeth the first published in the mid 1950s, even the way that's written is less easy for me to understand than more modern ones I've read. My opinion is that language changes and as it's main purpose is to make ourselves understood by other people we need to change with it. Rules are necessary but being too pedantic about their application means we might miss out on some interesting communication." Sadly, we're often judged, erroneously, on our written word. I left school before I took any exams; which makes me uneducated to some people. I have neither an "O" nor an "A" Level to my name | |||
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"English is not Mrs Salty's first language, so I would have hoped to become more tolerant of others' poor grammar and language. Instead I'm even more judgemental, as her level is better than a lot of people educated here. I'm willing to excuse those with dyslexia but I think claiming dyslexia has become a shorthand for many; figuratively and literally. " Some people struggle with syntax; grammar and clauses. Some know a dangling modifier when they see one. | |||
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"I do, and my effect and affect. Practice and practise. Always struggle with stationary and stationery though, I can never remember which is which" Stationery = contains 'e' for envelope. Ergo it's the sort of thing you buy in WH Smith. Stationary = not moving | |||
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"I do, and my effect and affect. Practice and practise. Always struggle with stationary and stationery though, I can never remember which is which Stationery = contains 'e' for envelope. Ergo it's the sort of thing you buy in WH Smith. Stationary = not moving "An envelope is stationery (e) and a parked car is stationary (a) | |||
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"Who knows their there's from their they'res from their theirs? In todays world, does spelling and grammar even matter? Ps... I got a D in GCSE English so I'm under no illusion that I'm the bestest spellerer and grammarist "It’s a huge turn off for me when they don’t know the difference and can’t use the correct word in messages. Intelligence is instinctively attractive to me. Hades x | |||
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"I do, and my effect and affect. Practice and practise. Always struggle with stationary and stationery though, I can never remember which is which Stationery = contains 'e' for envelope. Ergo it's the sort of thing you buy in WH Smith. Stationary = not moving
An envelope is stationery (e) and a parked car is stationary (a)"Should be easy to remember for us Black Country types, as a parked car Ay gooin nowhere | |||
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"I'll confess to getting very irritated by the modern habit of writing "should/could of" instead of "should/could have". It's nothing to do with dyslexia and everything to do with transcribing poor pronunciation. What is said verbally, often, is "should've/could've" which are just contractions of "should have/could have". " Absolutely this… me too! Hades | |||
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"I'll confess to getting very irritated by the modern habit of writing "should/could of" instead of "should/could have". It's nothing to do with dyslexia and everything to do with transcribing poor pronunciation. What is said verbally, often, is "should've/could've" which are just contractions of "should have/could have". " Yeah, that gets me too. I sort of have a threshold, after which I can't be bothered anymore. That threshold is higher a) when it's my job, b) with a known case of dyslexia, c) when I'm volunteering, or d) where I know English is not this person's first language. | |||
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"Who knows their there's from their they'res from their theirs? In todays world, does spelling and grammar even matter? Ps... I got a D in GCSE English so I'm under no illusion that I'm the bestest spellerer and grammarist "I do and I have to correct the person when they don’t | |||
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"I think it’s very important to get this sort of thing correct. Language is a sort of game where we know the rules and interpret what we see by applying those rules. Yes, we can usually see what people mean, even when they write the wrong thing, but that’s only because we measure it against the rule we know them to be breaking. Slightly arguing against myself though, it’s interesting that so much of our language was built up before the rules of grammar and spelling were codified - Shakespeare and the King James Bible for example. I need a guide to read Chaucer. I had to have the text of Canterbury Tales in modern English to read alongside the original. I also need help with Shakespeare and the King James Bible. I can in all but the most extreme cases work out what all but the worst modern examples of bad grammar and spelling mean without help. I started reading A Pilgrim's Progress in its original text and gave up. It's hard work. If I want some Shakespeare I watch a Kenneth Brannagh film. I'm reading a biography of Elizabeth the first published in the mid 1950s, even the way that's written is less easy for me to understand than more modern ones I've read. My opinion is that language changes and as it's main purpose is to make ourselves understood by other people we need to change with it. Rules are necessary but being too pedantic about their application means we might miss out on some interesting communication. Sadly, we're often judged, erroneously, on our written word. I left school before I took any exams; which makes me uneducated to some people. I have neither an "O" nor an "A" Level to my name "One response to a question that I think says a lot about people is "they didn't teach me that at school". As if knowledge can't be acquired anywhere else | |||
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"I'll confess to getting very irritated by the modern habit of writing "should/could of" instead of "should/could have". It's nothing to do with dyslexia and everything to do with transcribing poor pronunciation. What is said verbally, often, is "should've/could've" which are just contractions of "should have/could have". Yeah, that gets me too. I sort of have a threshold, after which I can't be bothered anymore. That threshold is higher a) when it's my job, b) with a known case of dyslexia, c) when I'm volunteering, or d) where I know English is not this person's first language." I've never once seen our international students write "could of". Not even those with the weakest English. | |||
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"I think it’s very important to get this sort of thing correct. Language is a sort of game where we know the rules and interpret what we see by applying those rules. Yes, we can usually see what people mean, even when they write the wrong thing, but that’s only because we measure it against the rule we know them to be breaking. Slightly arguing against myself though, it’s interesting that so much of our language was built up before the rules of grammar and spelling were codified - Shakespeare and the King James Bible for example. I need a guide to read Chaucer. I had to have the text of Canterbury Tales in modern English to read alongside the original. I also need help with Shakespeare and the King James Bible. I can in all but the most extreme cases work out what all but the worst modern examples of bad grammar and spelling mean without help. I started reading A Pilgrim's Progress in its original text and gave up. It's hard work. If I want some Shakespeare I watch a Kenneth Brannagh film. I'm reading a biography of Elizabeth the first published in the mid 1950s, even the way that's written is less easy for me to understand than more modern ones I've read. My opinion is that language changes and as it's main purpose is to make ourselves understood by other people we need to change with it. Rules are necessary but being too pedantic about their application means we might miss out on some interesting communication. Sadly, we're often judged, erroneously, on our written word. I left school before I took any exams; which makes me uneducated to some people. I have neither an "O" nor an "A" Level to my name
One response to a question that I think says a lot about people is "they didn't teach me that at school". As if knowledge can't be acquired anywhere else
"Since the Gove reforms of about 6-7yrs ago, they've taught incredibly complex grammar in primary schools, to the point where it sucks out any enjoyment from studying English. Why is it that this country has to go from the sublime to the ridiculous? | |||
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"I think it’s very important to get this sort of thing correct. Language is a sort of game where we know the rules and interpret what we see by applying those rules. Yes, we can usually see what people mean, even when they write the wrong thing, but that’s only because we measure it against the rule we know them to be breaking. Slightly arguing against myself though, it’s interesting that so much of our language was built up before the rules of grammar and spelling were codified - Shakespeare and the King James Bible for example. I need a guide to read Chaucer. I had to have the text of Canterbury Tales in modern English to read alongside the original. I also need help with Shakespeare and the King James Bible. I can in all but the most extreme cases work out what all but the worst modern examples of bad grammar and spelling mean without help. I started reading A Pilgrim's Progress in its original text and gave up. It's hard work. If I want some Shakespeare I watch a Kenneth Brannagh film. I'm reading a biography of Elizabeth the first published in the mid 1950s, even the way that's written is less easy for me to understand than more modern ones I've read. My opinion is that language changes and as it's main purpose is to make ourselves understood by other people we need to change with it. Rules are necessary but being too pedantic about their application means we might miss out on some interesting communication. Sadly, we're often judged, erroneously, on our written word. I left school before I took any exams; which makes me uneducated to some people. I have neither an "O" nor an "A" Level to my name
One response to a question that I think says a lot about people is "they didn't teach me that at school". As if knowledge can't be acquired anywhere else
Since the Gove reforms of about 6-7yrs ago, they've taught incredibly complex grammar in primary schools, to the point where it sucks out any enjoyment from studying English. Why is it that this country has to go from the sublime to the ridiculous?"Because of threads like this | |||
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"I think it’s very important to get this sort of thing correct. Language is a sort of game where we know the rules and interpret what we see by applying those rules. Yes, we can usually see what people mean, even when they write the wrong thing, but that’s only because we measure it against the rule we know them to be breaking. Slightly arguing against myself though, it’s interesting that so much of our language was built up before the rules of grammar and spelling were codified - Shakespeare and the King James Bible for example. I need a guide to read Chaucer. I had to have the text of Canterbury Tales in modern English to read alongside the original. I also need help with Shakespeare and the King James Bible. I can in all but the most extreme cases work out what all but the worst modern examples of bad grammar and spelling mean without help. I started reading A Pilgrim's Progress in its original text and gave up. It's hard work. If I want some Shakespeare I watch a Kenneth Brannagh film. I'm reading a biography of Elizabeth the first published in the mid 1950s, even the way that's written is less easy for me to understand than more modern ones I've read. My opinion is that language changes and as it's main purpose is to make ourselves understood by other people we need to change with it. Rules are necessary but being too pedantic about their application means we might miss out on some interesting communication. Sadly, we're often judged, erroneously, on our written word. I left school before I took any exams; which makes me uneducated to some people. I have neither an "O" nor an "A" Level to my name
One response to a question that I think says a lot about people is "they didn't teach me that at school". As if knowledge can't be acquired anywhere else
Since the Gove reforms of about 6-7yrs ago, they've taught incredibly complex grammar in primary schools, to the point where it sucks out any enjoyment from studying English. Why is it that this country has to go from the sublime to the ridiculous?
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"I'll confess to getting very irritated by the modern habit of writing "should/could of" instead of "should/could have". It's nothing to do with dyslexia and everything to do with transcribing poor pronunciation. What is said verbally, often, is "should've/could've" which are just contractions of "should have/could have". Yeah, that gets me too. I sort of have a threshold, after which I can't be bothered anymore. That threshold is higher a) when it's my job, b) with a known case of dyslexia, c) when I'm volunteering, or d) where I know English is not this person's first language. I've never once seen our international students write "could of". Not even those with the weakest English. " Yeah, that's definitely true. They know better. Carelessness from native speakers bothers me more. | |||
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"People only say grammar and spelling don’t matter as an excuse because they can’t spell or use grammar correctly. What about people who are dyslexic? Don't think they would say it's an excuse "As a dyslexic person, I always do my upper most to have correct grammar and spelling. Spellchecker is very useful. | |||
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"I would add your and you’re Oooo that one really gets me, along with its and it's " It's and its is deffo one I struggle with | |||
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"Who knows their there's from their they'res from their theirs? In todays world, does spelling and grammar even matter? Ps... I got a D in GCSE English so I'm under no illusion that I'm the bestest spellerer and grammarist "So I'll give my opinion... I think it does matter. I do my best, but I know my best may be worse or better than someone else's best! One of the worst places I find bad spelling and grammar is Facebook classic car forums. I have to read some of the comments a couple times over to understand what the hell they're on about. But... some of these dudes rebuild engines and restore cars from a pile of parts. I certainly can't do that. For me, that's a different kind of intelligence. We're all good at different things and should try to respect that | |||
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"...Since the Gove reforms of about 6-7yrs ago, they've taught incredibly complex grammar in primary schools... Is Gove reading this?! "• No, he's currently busy with the 'other' thread - Hat, Scarf & Gove Fab Photo Challenge.  | |||
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"People only say grammar and spelling don’t matter as an excuse because they can’t spell or use grammar correctly. " I disagree , just mentioned this on one of the other threads. I genuinely believe its because we have evolved into a much more visual and verbal word than looking at things written down. When speaking it doesn’t matter which version of their they’re or there you used - the context around the words are how you determine meaning. As we use more verbal communication and less written communication… people have switched to those skills of more often looking at the context to understand the meaning and therefore what is written is less important than if the correct meaning can be deciphered from it | |||
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"As long as the meaning is clear it doesn't matter. Problems occur when text is either ambiguous or completely incomprehensible. Surely, the different spelling of words is precisely to make it clear. " Nope if that was the case we wouldn’t have examples like read being used for both past and present tense. The reality is different spellings exist for no other reason than someone set it up that way forever ago and thats what we continue to teach going forward. | |||
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"As long as the meaning is clear it doesn't matter. Problems occur when text is either ambiguous or completely incomprehensible. Surely, the different spelling of words is precisely to make it clear. Nope if that was the case we wouldn’t have examples like read being used for both past and present tense. The reality is different spellings exist for no other reason than someone set it up that way forever ago and thats what we continue to teach going forward. " There's a word in ancient Greek with four very distinct forms (like unless you know it, you'd have no idea it was the same damn word). They seem to have come from different cultural traditions. Another example of this is, pick any language - the verb "to be" probably doesn't follow verb rules of the rest of that language (even if the verb rules have multiple complex and contradictory forms - looking at you, ancient Greek) I think of grammatical rules as the coincidences which stuck. You do still need to know them, give or take, but it's entirely arbitrary. | |||
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"As long as the meaning is clear it doesn't matter. Problems occur when text is either ambiguous or completely incomprehensible. Surely, the different spelling of words is precisely to make it clear. Nope if that was the case we wouldn’t have examples like read being used for both past and present tense. The reality is different spellings exist for no other reason than someone set it up that way forever ago and thats what we continue to teach going forward. There's a word in ancient Greek with four very distinct forms (like unless you know it, you'd have no idea it was the same damn word). They seem to have come from different cultural traditions. Another example of this is, pick any language - the verb "to be" probably doesn't follow verb rules of the rest of that language (even if the verb rules have multiple complex and contradictory forms - looking at you, ancient Greek) I think of grammatical rules as the coincidences which stuck. You do still need to know them, give or take, but it's entirely arbitrary. " Have a look for stage door johnny on either the clock or the instant weight apps
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"As long as the meaning is clear it doesn't matter. Problems occur when text is either ambiguous or completely incomprehensible. Surely, the different spelling of words is precisely to make it clear. Nope if that was the case we wouldn’t have examples like read being used for both past and present tense. The reality is different spellings exist for no other reason than someone set it up that way forever ago and thats what we continue to teach going forward. There's a word in ancient Greek with four very distinct forms (like unless you know it, you'd have no idea it was the same damn word). They seem to have come from different cultural traditions. Another example of this is, pick any language - the verb "to be" probably doesn't follow verb rules of the rest of that language (even if the verb rules have multiple complex and contradictory forms - looking at you, ancient Greek) I think of grammatical rules as the coincidences which stuck. You do still need to know them, give or take, but it's entirely arbitrary. Have a look for stage door johnny on either the clock or the instant weight apps
He makes great comedy out of the english language and all of its inconsistencies "My ESL students ask me why (inconsistent rule) exists. I tell them it's because English is a terrible language. | |||
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