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"Donald Trump " I'd love to read the history books in a hundred years time about this time! | |||
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"Lieutenant-General Adrian Carton de Wiart. This man was an absolute unit and probably quite insane. Worth a quick read of his Wikipedia if you have a moment. LvM" That is a story and a half - what a life! | |||
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"Lieutenant-General Adrian Carton de Wiart. This man was an absolute unit and probably quite insane. Worth a quick read of his Wikipedia if you have a moment. LvM" how come I never heard of this bad ass?! Buried in Ireland too!! | |||
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"Sir Matt Busby" If you haven't read it,Three Kings is a great book.Busby,Bill Shankly,Jock Reid. | |||
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"Alexander the Great." As much as I like his story he died at 33 from alcoholism, left no legacy. | |||
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"Emperor Nero. Had sexual proclivities that most on here would blanche at " give us an example?! | |||
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"Alexander the Great. As much as I like his story he died at 33 from alcoholism, left no legacy." You've mixed him up with John Bonham. | |||
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"Alexander the Great. As much as I like his story he died at 33 from alcoholism, left no legacy. You've mixed him up with John Bonham." Haha.Bonham has more of a legacy. | |||
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"Henry VIII, Maya Anjelou, Truman Capote, William Faulkner, Catherine The Great, Charles Dickens, Shakespeare, Marie Antoinette. All fascinating to me for various reasons. " I'd quite like to meet a young Henry eighth the older man wasn't very nice I don't think | |||
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"Henry VIII, Maya Anjelou, Truman Capote, William Faulkner, Catherine The Great, Charles Dickens, Shakespeare, Marie Antoinette. All fascinating to me for various reasons. I'd quite like to meet a young Henry eighth the older man wasn't very nice I don't think " Considering how quickly he turned against and murdered many of the people around him I'd probably only want to be sat by him for the first course, just in case.  | |||
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"Henry VIII, Maya Anjelou, Truman Capote, William Faulkner, Catherine The Great, Charles Dickens, Shakespeare, Marie Antoinette. All fascinating to me for various reasons. I'd quite like to meet a young Henry eighth the older man wasn't very nice I don't think Considering how quickly he turned against and murdered many of the people around him I'd probably only want to be sat by him for the first course, just in case. " I think I'd wear a sturdy scarf to be on the safe side | |||
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"Alexander the Great. As much as I like his story he died at 33 from alcoholism, left no legacy." Genghis Khan, founder of the largest continous empire in history. Also left quite a legacy. Here's a snippet from a website about him. Genghis Khan, the fearsome Mongolian warrior of the 13th century, may have done more than rule the largest empire in the world; according to a recently published genetic study, he may have helped populate it too. An international group of geneticists studying Y-chromosome data have found that nearly 8 percent of the men living in the region of the former Mongol empire carry y-chromosomes that are nearly identical. That translates to 0.5 percent of the male population in the world, or roughly 16 million descendants living today. | |||
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"Alexander the Great. As much as I like his story he died at 33 from alcoholism, left no legacy. Genghis Khan, founder of the largest continous empire in history. Also left quite a legacy. Here's a snippet from a website about him. Genghis Khan, the fearsome Mongolian warrior of the 13th century, may have done more than rule the largest empire in the world; according to a recently published genetic study, he may have helped populate it too. An international group of geneticists studying Y-chromosome data have found that nearly 8 percent of the men living in the region of the former Mongol empire carry y-chromosomes that are nearly identical. That translates to 0.5 percent of the male population in the world, or roughly 16 million descendants living today." On the other hand he killed between 5 and 10% of the then population of the world and his children and grandchildren were worse | |||
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"Titus Salt. Built a whole town for his workers, and seems to be the only industrialist from the era who realised that you have to look after your workers properly to get the best out of them. " Cadbury?Bourneville?Lever? Many others built houses and villages for their workers | |||
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"I'm always going to say Elizabeth 1st. I have questions Makes me wonder who you'd say second " | |||
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"Ching Shih, over 80,000 pirates under her command.....I think Blackbeard only had about 300-400. " Chinese the biggest pirates? Who knew | |||
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"Jesus Joseph and Mary "And the wee donkey? | |||
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"Queen Elizabwth the first - times when a monarch was really a monarch" Yeah, I have so many questions I want to ask her. | |||
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"Alexander the Great. As much as I like his story he died at 33 from alcoholism, left no legacy. Genghis Khan, founder of the largest continous empire in history. Also left quite a legacy. Here's a snippet from a website about him. Genghis Khan, the fearsome Mongolian warrior of the 13th century, may have done more than rule the largest empire in the world; according to a recently published genetic study, he may have helped populate it too. An international group of geneticists studying Y-chromosome data have found that nearly 8 percent of the men living in the region of the former Mongol empire carry y-chromosomes that are nearly identical. That translates to 0.5 percent of the male population in the world, or roughly 16 million descendants living today. On the other hand he killed between 5 and 10% of the then population of the world and his children and grandchildren were worse" So he had a lot of skeletons in his cupboard. Makes him even more interesting | |||
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"Henry VIII, Maya Anjelou, Truman Capote, William Faulkner, Catherine The Great, Charles Dickens, Shakespeare, Marie Antoinette. All fascinating to me for various reasons. I'd quite like to meet a young Henry eighth the older man wasn't very nice I don't think " beheading his wife should have been a red flag | |||
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"Erasmus Darwin- Charles Darwins' grandfather. Inventor, scientist, founder of the Lunar Society, advocate for the abolition of sla very and womens' rights." Sounds like my kind of man (not in a sexual way) | |||
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"John Lilburne (the Leveller), or William Tyndale (translated the Bible into English) I’m drawn to people who have strengths where I feel I have weaknesses. These men were singleminded forces of nature, never shirked from the fight. The most interesting people have something eating at them from inside, propelling then forward - you wouldn’t want to be them, but they can be inspirational." Catherine “la Maréchale” Booth. Active age 15-70, regularly stoned, arrested, deported,, exiled from various countries, nothing stopped her. | |||
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"John Lilburne (the Leveller), or William Tyndale (translated the Bible into English) I’m drawn to people who have strengths where I feel I have weaknesses. These men were singleminded forces of nature, never shirked from the fight. The most interesting people have something eating at them from inside, propelling then forward - you wouldn’t want to be them, but they can be inspirational. Catherine “la Maréchale” Booth. Active age 15-70, regularly stoned, arrested, deported,, exiled from various countries, nothing stopped her." Cheech and chong were regularly stoned too | |||
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"Mahatma Gandhi 
Racist and terrorist. Good choice "Didnt he play Ben Kingsley in a film? | |||
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"Ice breaker at a posh dinner party for you. Which historical character you found most interesting?" Billy the kid Einstein Ragnor lothbrook William Wallace | |||
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"Mahatma Gandhi
Racist and terrorist. Good choice
Didnt he play Ben Kingsley in a film? "He did,and Mahatma was in Sexy beast with Ray Winstone. | |||
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"Carl Jung, Nikola Tesla, Salvador Dali, Frida Kahlo, Nelson Mandela, Che Guevara to name but a few... " This is the best reply, some of these answers make me feel a little cold... | |||
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"Queen Elizabwth the first - times when a monarch was really a monarch Yeah, I have so many questions I want to ask her. " | |||
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"Carl Jung, Nikola Tesla, Salvador Dali, Frida Kahlo, Nelson Mandela, Che Guevara to name but a few... This is the best reply, some of these answers make me feel a little cold... " Yep | |||
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"Byron " Strong agree! Great poet, great man, but terrible father - someone (quite rightly) mentioned Ada Lovelace above, who achieved great things despite being Byron’s daughter | |||
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"Mahatma Gandhi
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Didnt he play Ben Kingsley in a film?
He did,and Mahatma was in Sexy beast with Ray Winstone. "I know a bloke who knows a bloke Who knows a bloke Now you know this bloke | |||
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"Greatness "Solon found it difficult to pronounce on a man's happiness during his life, how much more difficult it must be to adjudge on a man's greatness? True greatness in the world is not found set upon a hill for the vulgar crowd to see. On the contrary, my seventy years' experience has taught me that the truly great are often those of whom and of whose greatness the world knows nothing during their lifetime. God alone is judge of true greatness because He knows men's hearts." - M. K. Gandhi" Yes, that! | |||
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"Ice breaker at a posh dinner party for you. Which historical character you found most interesting?" None, not a single person, only people I'm interested in is my family and friends. | |||
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"Byron Strong agree! Great poet, great man, but terrible father - someone (quite rightly) mentioned Ada Lovelace above, who achieved great things despite being Byron’s daughter "Mad, bad and dangerous to know. How exciting does that sound? | |||
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"Tony Blair. He took millions out of poverty and improved public services. Leave the Iraq issue out of the equation. " Adolf Hitler. He took millions out of poverty and improved public services.. Leave the Holocaust issue out of the equation | |||
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"Malcolm X. Rational, intellectual, charismatic." Criminal, racist, violent thug. All a question of perspective. He was convicted multiple times and jailed. Advocated racism and violence to support his views. | |||
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""Guy forx" I'm starting to think he had the right idea, and "cleopatra" would love to see how beuitifull she rearly was.? " Cleopatra married and had children with his brothers...a bit icky! | |||
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"Malcolm X. Rational, intellectual, charismatic. Criminal, racist, violent thug. All a question of perspective. He was convicted multiple times and jailed. Advocated racism and violence to support his views." They used to say the same about Nelson Mandela. I would add Michael Collins and Marie Curie. | |||
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"Malcolm X. Rational, intellectual, charismatic. Criminal, racist, violent thug. All a question of perspective. He was convicted multiple times and jailed. Advocated racism and violence to support his views. They used to say the same about Nelson Mandela. I would add Michael Collins and Marie Curie." Because Mandela was a racist and a terrorist. He could have been released from prison much earlier if he renounced violence, he refused | |||
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"Malcolm X. Rational, intellectual, charismatic. Criminal, racist, violent thug. All a question of perspective. He was convicted multiple times and jailed. Advocated racism and violence to support his views. They used to say the same about Nelson Mandela. I would add Michael Collins and Marie Curie. Because Mandela was a racist and a terrorist. He could have been released from prison much earlier if he renounced violence, he refused " Mandela a racist?, nonsense | |||
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"Malcolm X. Rational, intellectual, charismatic. Criminal, racist, violent thug. All a question of perspective. He was convicted multiple times and jailed. Advocated racism and violence to support his views. They used to say the same about Nelson Mandela. I would add Michael Collins and Marie Curie. Because Mandela was a racist and a terrorist. He could have been released from prison much earlier if he renounced violence, he refused Mandela a racist?, nonsense " Another one led by the nose.He was a terrorist and his violence was aimed at white people.Yes,I know the argument "freedom fighter" but not to white Afrikaans he wasn't. His wife of course was more inclusive and killed her own people too. | |||
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"Malcolm X as well ! What about him?" Read his autobiography and his speeches, it will be self evident. | |||
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"Donald Trump I'd love to read the history books in a hundred years time about this time!" Chapter 10 - Buckle in kids, this is the year it all went tits up! | |||
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"Adam and Eve ,king William the 3rd,William Wallace ,Elvis ,Enoch Powell maybe you'll listen this time "Adam and Eve weren't historical figures. | |||
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"Malcolm X. Rational, intellectual, charismatic. Criminal, racist, violent thug. All a question of perspective. He was convicted multiple times and jailed. Advocated racism and violence to support his views. They used to say the same about Nelson Mandela. I would add Michael Collins and Marie Curie. Because Mandela was a racist and a terrorist. He could have been released from prison much earlier if he renounced violence, he refused Mandela a racist?, nonsense Another one led by the nose.He was a terrorist and his violence was aimed at white people.Yes,I know the argument "freedom fighter" but not to white Afrikaans he wasn't. His wife of course was more inclusive and killed her own people too." He carried out terrorist acts....doesn't make him a racist. | |||
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"I've had this discussion before, but organising a piss up. I would use the time machine to collect some of the world's most famous hellraisers for a pub crawl around the Monopoly board in London. Alex Higgins, Oliver Reid, George Best, Hunter S Thompson, Betty Ford, Liz Taylor, Richard Burton, Richard Harris, Winston Churchill, Earnest Hemingway, Frank Sinatra and Boris Yeltsin. Finishing in an upmarket venue in Mayfair. " What a ridiculous comment. Have a word with yourself. Take them to a local boozer instead. 
Give Boris a couple of quid for the juke box.
Get Alex Higgins tanked up and let him loose on the pool table (winner stays on, of course).
And get Ollie Reed and Rich Harris on the oche for a game of darts.
Georgie Best can try his luck with Betty Ford.
Liz and Rich Burton will end up arguing and having a domestic. | |||
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"Another one led by the nose.He was a terrorist and his violence was aimed at white people.Yes,I know the argument "freedom fighter" but not to white Afrikaans he wasn't. His wife of course was more inclusive and killed her own people too." When the State use force, violence, oppression and terror, we are told it is justice, law and order. When the oppressed seek justice, we are told their terrorists. Just look at the media representations of the PLO. | |||
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"Malcolm X. Rational, intellectual, charismatic." I don't think he was particularly rational when he was espousing Farrakhan's nonsense. But I'm impressed by his intellect, passion, rhetoric and the fact he kept evolving. | |||
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"Another one led by the nose.He was a terrorist and his violence was aimed at white people.Yes,I know the argument "freedom fighter" but not to white Afrikaans he wasn't. His wife of course was more inclusive and killed her own people too. When the State use force, violence, oppression and terror, we are told it is justice, law and order. When the oppressed seek justice, we are told their terrorists. Just look at the media representations of the PLO." Terrorism never works... We never negotiate with terrorists.. OK then. Or do we? | |||
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"Malcolm X. Rational, intellectual, charismatic. Criminal, racist, violent thug. All a question of perspective. He was convicted multiple times and jailed. Advocated racism and violence to support his views. They used to say the same about Nelson Mandela. I would add Michael Collins and Marie Curie. Because Mandela was a racist and a terrorist. He could have been released from prison much earlier if he renounced violence, he refused " When he was faced with the most appalling violence against himself and black South Africans, why would he ever renounce violence? It’s the only language oppressors understand | |||
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"Malcolm X. Rational, intellectual, charismatic. Criminal, racist, violent thug. All a question of perspective. He was convicted multiple times and jailed. Advocated racism and violence to support his views. They used to say the same about Nelson Mandela. I would add Michael Collins and Marie Curie. Because Mandela was a racist and a terrorist. He could have been released from prison much earlier if he renounced violence, he refused When he was faced with the most appalling violence against himself and black South Africans, why would he ever renounce violence? It’s the only language oppressors understand " Strong agree with this last post. He did renounce violence when the South African government renounced violence and the process towards reform was properly set in motion. It’s an act of arrogance for people who are not brutally suppressed to tell those that are to renounce violence. | |||
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"Imagine a dinner party with the following. Leonardo da Vinci. Professor Brain Cox. Arthur C Clarke. Albert Einstein. Galileo Galilei. Professor Stephen Hawking. Rachel Riley Marilyn Vos Savant. Marie Curie. Carl Sagan. Socrates the philosopher not the footballer. Peter Ustinov. " So Rachel go and pop the kettle on love while we sort out relativity. | |||
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"Malcolm X. Rational, intellectual, charismatic. Criminal, racist, violent thug. All a question of perspective. He was convicted multiple times and jailed. Advocated racism and violence to support his views." Actually if you read his auto biography you will see his life journey.. it’s very interesting His father murdered by the klu Klux klan… his mother sent to a mental asylum, he survived on the streets and he was a criminal… then was sent to prison… where he was brainwashed by someone who told him false ways of a certain faith that he followed, but he stated that what ever he said when he was under their guidance was all false, he was brainwashed into believing that all white people were devils.. but in his auto biography he explained that growing up at that time and the way he was treated by white people is the reason he was easily led to believed this.. it was only his journey to Mecca where he realised that the faith he had chosen would accept all races, when he returned he wanted to preach this to all the people of America to help build community relations… but the organisation that he had left and wanted nothing to do with had him assassinated | |||
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"Heard a radio show about paddy mayne...talk about a full and significant life... Sure he had more than a few dinner stories to tell. Lieutenant Colonel Robert Blair "Paddy" Mayne, DSO & Three Bars (11 January 1915 – 14 December 1955) was a British Army officer from Newtownards, capped for Ireland and the British Lions at rugby union, lawyer, amateur boxer, and a founding member of the Special Air Service (SAS)" All true, but probably not the guy you would want to be with when he was d*unk. | |||
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