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By *om and Jennie OP   Couple
over a year ago

Chams or Socials

HELP!!! I have to complete one for a job application. I’ve never done one before. What gumph do I put in it??? I really, really want this job doesn’t seem enough…..

J x

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By *ripodius WillyusMan
over a year ago

Here and there

Be honest lies get found out, check theres nowt on facebook twitter etc delete owt you unsure about as good someone will search your name.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"HELP!!! I have to complete one for a job application. I’ve never done one before. What gumph do I put in it??? I really, really want this job doesn’t seem enough…..

J x"

Google

Seriously though there's loads of advice on Google. Talk about your strengths and weaknesses and what you believe you could bring to the role!

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By *om and Jennie OP   Couple
over a year ago

Chams or Socials


"Be honest lies get found out, check theres nowt on facebook twitter etc delete owt you unsure about as good someone will search your name."

Already done this & it’s working for the same team so they already know me. I just can’t sell myself

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By *aster and AriealCouple
over a year ago

swindon

When I'm shortlisting I read personal statements to see how they fit with the person specification for the role, hopefully you should have been sent this from the company, so try and align you Personal statement to this as much as you can.

Arieal x

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"When I'm shortlisting I read personal statements to see how they fit with the person specification for the role, hopefully you should have been sent this from the company, so try and align you Personal statement to this as much as you can.

Arieal x"

Agreed. Also identify any key words and include them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Be honest lies get found out, check theres nowt on facebook twitter etc delete owt you unsure about as good someone will search your name.

Already done this & it’s working for the same team so they already know me. I just can’t sell myself"

Can you ask them what kind of thing they're looking for?

Good luck!

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"When I'm shortlisting I read personal statements to see how they fit with the person specification for the role, hopefully you should have been sent this from the company, so try and align you Personal statement to this as much as you can.

Arieal x"

^^^This. I usually copy/paste the essential and desirable requirements on the person spec, put them in a bullet pointed list, then start adding examples of how I can demonstrate these. I then removed the bullet points and stitch my skills/experience examples together into a coherent letter/statement.

As a recruiting manager, this also makes it easy to spot how the applicant might meet the person spec.

Good luck!

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By *om and Jennie OP   Couple
over a year ago

Chams or Socials


"When I'm shortlisting I read personal statements to see how they fit with the person specification for the role, hopefully you should have been sent this from the company, so try and align you Personal statement to this as much as you can.

Arieal x

^^^This. I usually copy/paste the essential and desirable requirements on the person spec, put them in a bullet pointed list, then start adding examples of how I can demonstrate these. I then removed the bullet points and stitch my skills/experience examples together into a coherent letter/statement.

As a recruiting manager, this also makes it easy to spot how the applicant might meet the person spec.

Good luck!"

Fab thank you! I did this 1st & am padding it out. At least I’m on the right track.

The person they need is me - it’s a new role & whoever gets it will be my line manager which is why I need it

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By *aster and AriealCouple
over a year ago

swindon


"When I'm shortlisting I read personal statements to see how they fit with the person specification for the role, hopefully you should have been sent this from the company, so try and align you Personal statement to this as much as you can.

Arieal x

^^^This. I usually copy/paste the essential and desirable requirements on the person spec, put them in a bullet pointed list, then start adding examples of how I can demonstrate these. I then removed the bullet points and stitch my skills/experience examples together into a coherent letter/statement.

As a recruiting manager, this also makes it easy to spot how the applicant might meet the person spec.

Good luck!"

I do the exact same using a matrix (HR Advisor here )

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

If it's exclusively internal , they have already decided.

Outline your personal characteristics

What you get out of the job

What you would bring to the job .....

I'd especially include .... I know that who ever gets this position will be my line manager and it is important to me to have a line manager that is .............. and .......... and .......... and .......... I thought that if that is the type of line manager I want and the business needs that I should really make sure that we get that type of line manager by putting myself forward and making sure that happens.

Don't offer free blow jobs

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By *bostCouple
over a year ago

glasgow


"HELP!!! I have to complete one for a job application. I’ve never done one before. What gumph do I put in it??? I really, really want this job doesn’t seem enough…..

J x"

Look at job description. Match your experience and skills with the essential criteria and as much of the desirables as possible.

Really think about what you are putting down. Everything you say is important and should be backed up by evidence. Think - So what, who cares? Make everything you put down about getting the role.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

When recruiting the paper based stuff is literally a paper based exercise, we scan not read, so get in the the keywords, map the essentials , map the non essentials otherwise I’d reject it.

Why do you want the job is only important so I can figure out why I want you - what’s in it for me is what matters most, so it has to be a win/win otherwise it’s a lie

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By *ilffadMan
over a year ago

swansea

Yep, all good advice, write about how you match the job description and person specification with some solid examples. Make yourself stand out from the other candidates. Good luck!

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By *om and Jennie OP   Couple
over a year ago

Chams or Socials


"If it's exclusively internal , they have already decided.

Outline your personal characteristics

What you get out of the job

What you would bring to the job .....

I'd especially include .... I know that who ever gets this position will be my line manager and it is important to me to have a line manager that is .............. and .......... and .......... and .......... I thought that if that is the type of line manager I want and the business needs that I should really make sure that we get that type of line manager by putting myself forward and making sure that happens.

Don't offer free blow jobs

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Oh bloody hell that’s a good paragraph to include!! Thanks GC. My days of shagging the boss are over but there was a time where I would have with this one. Not his boss though. He looks like Penfold

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"HELP!!! I have to complete one for a job application. I’ve never done one before. What gumph do I put in it??? I really, really want this job doesn’t seem enough…..

J x

Look at job description. Match your experience and skills with the essential criteria and as much of the desirables as possible.

Really think about what you are putting down. Everything you say is important and should be backed up by evidence. Think - So what, who cares? Make everything you put down about getting the role. "

I think my last role I put something like I want to come in and sort out {X] increase the capability maturity , put in a good no.2 who could develop & succeed me , bring in key recruits from my network for each country , be part of the IPO success and see a women in leadership mentoring programme rolled out globally and then exit in approx. 3 years. Obviously the interview was then very easy - they just said how much ?

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By *ris GrayMan
over a year ago

Dorchester

Say a little bit about yourself personal achievements etc and dont include a cock pic

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By *om and Jennie OP   Couple
over a year ago

Chams or Socials


"Say a little bit about yourself personal achievements etc and dont include a cock pic "

I don’t have a cock so no probs there!!

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By *innie The MinxWoman
over a year ago

Under the Duvet

As someine above said, give SPECIFIC EXAMPLES of how you meet the personal spec.

The number of application forms I read which are just a list of 'I am"s.

Saying you are a team player or customer focused or whatever means nowt to me without examples. Apps like that generally get sifted straight into the bin.

Good luck OP.

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By *ris GrayMan
over a year ago

Dorchester


"Say a little bit about yourself personal achievements etc and dont include a cock pic

I don’t have a cock so no probs there!!"
ahhh its the lady, why didn't you say

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"If it's exclusively internal , they have already decided.

Outline your personal characteristics

What you get out of the job

What you would bring to the job .....

I'd especially include .... I know that who ever gets this position will be my line manager and it is important to me to have a line manager that is .............. and .......... and .......... and .......... I thought that if that is the type of line manager I want and the business needs that I should really make sure that we get that type of line manager by putting myself forward and making sure that happens.

Don't offer free blow jobs

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If it's exclusively internal but are interviewing, there's more than one candidate. They'd better not have made their minds up! The panel will have to be able to objectively justify why they selected candidate A over B, C, D etc.

Why someone wants the job is a fairly minimal part of the application - how one meets the person spec is far more important, same for internal and external candidates.

I've seen so many internal applicants lose out on jobs to externals, because the internal applicants assume that the panel knows about their skills/what they've done and make less effort in their applications.

When I've applied to internal vacancies, I've assumed that the panel don't know me at all (even if they do know me).

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By *om and Jennie OP   Couple
over a year ago

Chams or Socials


"Say a little bit about yourself personal achievements etc and dont include a cock pic

I don’t have a cock so no probs there!!ahhh its the lady, why didn't you say "

I did in the OP

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By *om and Jennie OP   Couple
over a year ago

Chams or Socials


"If it's exclusively internal , they have already decided.

Outline your personal characteristics

What you get out of the job

What you would bring to the job .....

I'd especially include .... I know that who ever gets this position will be my line manager and it is important to me to have a line manager that is .............. and .......... and .......... and .......... I thought that if that is the type of line manager I want and the business needs that I should really make sure that we get that type of line manager by putting myself forward and making sure that happens.

Don't offer free blow jobs

If it's exclusively internal but are interviewing, there's more than one candidate. They'd better not have made their minds up! The panel will have to be able to objectively justify why they selected candidate A over B, C, D etc.

Why someone wants the job is a fairly minimal part of the application - how one meets the person spec is far more important, same for internal and external candidates.

I've seen so many internal applicants lose out on jobs to externals, because the internal applicants assume that the panel knows about their skills/what they've done and make less effort in their applications.

When I've applied to internal vacancies, I've assumed that the panel don't know me at all (even if they do know me). "

There are 2 vacancies for the 2 different parts of the team. The other position is a no-brainer as someone near enough does the role already. I think 2 of my current team might apply so could be tough as on paper there’s probably not much between us. I’m ahead on length of time doing role & I can cover everyone else’s role in my half of the team but the other 2 only have knowledge of their own areas.

I’m just rubbish at putting it down & selling myself. This is the 1st time I’ve applied for a job since the days when you said you were interested & either got the job or had a pretend interview….

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By *izzy.Woman
over a year ago

Stoke area


"If it's exclusively internal , they have already decided.

Outline your personal characteristics

What you get out of the job

What you would bring to the job .....

I'd especially include .... I know that who ever gets this position will be my line manager and it is important to me to have a line manager that is .............. and .......... and .......... and .......... I thought that if that is the type of line manager I want and the business needs that I should really make sure that we get that type of line manager by putting myself forward and making sure that happens.

Don't offer free blow jobs

If it's exclusively internal but are interviewing, there's more than one candidate. They'd better not have made their minds up! The panel will have to be able to objectively justify why they selected candidate A over B, C, D etc.

Why someone wants the job is a fairly minimal part of the application - how one meets the person spec is far more important, same for internal and external candidates.

I've seen so many internal applicants lose out on jobs to externals, because the internal applicants assume that the panel knows about their skills/what they've done and make less effort in their applications.

When I've applied to internal vacancies, I've assumed that the panel don't know me at all (even if they do know me).

There are 2 vacancies for the 2 different parts of the team. The other position is a no-brainer as someone near enough does the role already. I think 2 of my current team might apply so could be tough as on paper there’s probably not much between us. I’m ahead on length of time doing role & I can cover everyone else’s role in my half of the team but the other 2 only have knowledge of their own areas.

I’m just rubbish at putting it down & selling myself. This is the 1st time I’ve applied for a job since the days when you said you were interested & either got the job or had a pretend interview…."

The fact that you have knowledge/ experience of the others roles is a very relevant point. You can do a managerial position to a much higher standard if you know more about all areas of the work you will be covering.

Think you are getting some great advise here J.

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By *imi_RougeWoman
over a year ago

Portsmouth

Buy everyone cream cakes for the next however long... A little bribery goes a long way

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By *om and Jennie OP   Couple
over a year ago

Chams or Socials


"Buy everyone cream cakes for the next however long... A little bribery goes a long way"

It would if they were in the office at the same time!! Bloody working from home!!

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By *om and Jennie OP   Couple
over a year ago

Chams or Socials

Thank you to everyone who has taken the time to reply - there are some really helpful ideas so I’ll be re-writing tomorrow x

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