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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

While shopping for Christmas I came across some who said it's made up! I did not search it up yet!! But is true?!

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By *piderBunnyCouple
over a year ago

Back of Nowhere and Beyond

All festivals are made up by someone at some time. Some festivals are just more popular, better known and have more longevity than others.

Posh

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Yep. Everything is

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By *ittlebirdWoman
over a year ago

The Big Smoke

It’s for the religious festival of Santa

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

Christmas (or the Feast of Christ) is supposedly to celebrate the birth of Jesus in Bethlehem (see "Bible - Gospels, New Testament"). However, we celebrate it in December because the pagan winter Yule festival (see "Yuletide") was at about the same time, ditto the Roman festival of Saturnalia and one of the Popes in the 300sAD decided to stick Christmas at about the same time (presumably to continue historical traditions of feasting and a holiday period at that time of year).

Jesus would not have been born in winter time. The Bible states that Mary & Joseph had to travel to complete a Census and it's likely a Census would have taken place in spring time. A guess is that Jesus might have been born between April and June (assuming that the Jesus of Nazareth who is recorded as having been crucified during the reign of the governorship of Pontius Pilate (AD26-36) was indeed the same dude the Bible claims is/was the son of god).

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/14/what-is-the-historical-evidence-that-jesus-christ-lived-and-died

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Traditions can span many generations and their origins may be forgotten. Pagan festivals git incorporated into Christian ones, including Christmas. Others cross boundaries between cultures, religions, etc.

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By *onest8Man
over a year ago

Leeds

xmas is based of a pagan Roman celebration called saturnalia where they gave each other presents and shagged each others wives.

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
over a year ago

Reading

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By *iscean_dreamMan
over a year ago

Llanelli

Yes, it's to celebrate a made up story

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By *LIVEANDKICKING100Man
over a year ago

DUBLIN

Christmas was invented to create light in the darkest part of the year. We all get down in ourselves when there is little light so Christmas brightens things during the darkest part of the year.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings


"Christmas (or the Feast of Christ) is supposedly to celebrate the birth of Jesus in Bethlehem (see "Bible - Gospels, New Testament"). However, we celebrate it in December because the pagan winter Yule festival (see "Yuletide") was at about the same time, ditto the Roman festival of Saturnalia and one of the Popes in the 300sAD decided to stick Christmas at about the same time (presumably to continue historical traditions of feasting and a holiday period at that time of year).

Jesus would not have been born in winter time. The Bible states that Mary & Joseph had to travel to complete a Census and it's likely a Census would have taken place in spring time. A guess is that Jesus might have been born between April and June (assuming that the Jesus of Nazareth who is recorded as having been crucified during the reign of the governorship of Pontius Pilate (AD26-36) was indeed the same dude the Bible claims is/was the son of god).

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/14/what-is-the-historical-evidence-that-jesus-christ-lived-and-died"

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

It's supposed to be a period to bring folk together put everything else behind but still leads to arguments guess some just haven't grasped it

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple
over a year ago

Leeds

I’ve never heard something so outrageous in all my life. Our lord saviour Jesus Christ was born on the 25th of December THATS NOT MADE UP!! 100% happened!!!!

The mr

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By *uriousscouserWoman
over a year ago

Wirral

When we first crawled out of the primordial ooze we found santa throwing tinsel at a tree and thus Christmas is 100% not a made up festival.

It was only a couple of months later the first bunny laid its eggs for Easter, also 100% not made up.

Nature truly is breathtakingly beautiful in its majesty.

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By *stbury DavenportMan
over a year ago

Nottingham


"Christmas was invented to create light in the darkest part of the year. We all get down in ourselves when there is little light so Christmas brightens things during the darkest part of the year. "

Midwinter festivals existed for precisely this purpose for many thousands of years before Christmas was invented.

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By *ily Con CarneTV/TS
over a year ago

Cornwall

Christmas was invented as a means to cull the overpopulation of turkeys

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By *ife NinjaMan
over a year ago

Dunfermline

Who cares. It brings joy to millions in this, sometimes, frightening and depressive world

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By *idnight RamblerMan
over a year ago

Pershore

It's a re-branding by Christians of the Solstice feast of Yule. In fact, that's still what it's called across much of Northern Europe.

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By *issYeuxBleusWoman
over a year ago

My boudoir - S Wales


"xmas is based of a pagan Roman celebration called saturnalia where they gave each other presents and shagged each others wives."

Sounds perfect

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"While shopping for Christmas I came across some who said it's made up! I did not search it up yet!! But is true?! "

The Origins of Christnas are well documented, and started in about 336 in Rome. The word is derived from Christe Maesse (Lattin for a Mass for Christ).

Historical research has previously suggested that the Person thought to be Christ was actually born in the June (Based on star maps).

The late December festivals coincide with Pagan Celebration of Winter Solstice, so this is the likely reason that the Christian Faiths chose to celebrate at this time. The 25th of December was unilaterally adopted for Christmas by Christian Churches in the 4th century. Whilst trying to convert Pagans to Christians, it would have been much easier, if their celebrations aligned.

It's also worth noting that the name "Santa Clause" seems to be a bastardization of Saint Nicolas and bears a lot of similarities with the Paga god Oden who rode through the heavens deciding who had deserved to prosper or perish.

There are similar alignments for other religious festivals too... the most notable being Easter which coincides with Celebrations for the start of spring and festivals for the Pagan/Anglo Saxon Goddess of Spring and Fertility "Oestre" (Pronounces Easter?)

Cal

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By *egasus NobMan
over a year ago

Merton

Duh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It was taken from Paganism, the reason we have fairy lights, Christmas trees etc.

Christians believe Jesus is the light of the world so Yule was perfect to become Christmas.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Where is everyone citing their information from ?

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"It was taken from Paganism, the reason we have fairy lights, Christmas trees etc.

Christians believe Jesus is the light of the world so Yule was perfect to become Christmas. "

I always thought the Christmas tree was a tradition introduced by Prince Albert and fairy lights were a safer alienative to candles on trees

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod

over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"It was taken from Paganism, the reason we have fairy lights, Christmas trees etc.

Christians believe Jesus is the light of the world so Yule was perfect to become Christmas.

I always thought the Christmas tree was a tradition introduced by Prince Albert and fairy lights were a safer alienative to candles on trees"

Noooooo. Prince Albert introduced the tradition of having a ring put through your bell end so you could hang baubles from it at Xmas.

A

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"It was taken from Paganism, the reason we have fairy lights, Christmas trees etc.

Christians believe Jesus is the light of the world so Yule was perfect to become Christmas.

I always thought the Christmas tree was a tradition introduced by Prince Albert and fairy lights were a safer alienative to candles on trees

Noooooo. Prince Albert introduced the tradition of having a ring put through your bell end so you could hang baubles from it at Xmas.

A"

My mistake

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"It was taken from Paganism, the reason we have fairy lights, Christmas trees etc.

Christians believe Jesus is the light of the world so Yule was perfect to become Christmas.

I always thought the Christmas tree was a tradition introduced by Prince Albert and fairy lights were a safer alienative to candles on trees

Noooooo. Prince Albert introduced the tradition of having a ring put through your bell end so you could hang baubles from it at Xmas.

A

My mistake "

My ability to type alternative was also my mistake

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"It was taken from Paganism, the reason we have fairy lights, Christmas trees etc.

Christians believe Jesus is the light of the world so Yule was perfect to become Christmas.

I always thought the Christmas tree was a tradition introduced by Prince Albert and fairy lights were a safer alienative to candles on trees

Noooooo. Prince Albert introduced the tradition of having a ring put through your bell end so you could hang baubles from it at Xmas.

A

My mistake

My ability to type alternative was also my mistake "

But not originally your mistake. Many people cite Albert .... but further research will tell you it was the German princess...... doooo deeee dahhh deee..... I'll look up her name in minute.....

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Queen Charlotte 1800

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"It was taken from Paganism, the reason we have fairy lights, Christmas trees etc.

Christians believe Jesus is the light of the world so Yule was perfect to become Christmas.

I always thought the Christmas tree was a tradition introduced by Prince Albert and fairy lights were a safer alienative to candles on trees

Noooooo. Prince Albert introduced the tradition of having a ring put through your bell end so you could hang baubles from it at Xmas.

A

My mistake

My ability to type alternative was also my mistake

But not originally your mistake. Many people cite Albert .... but further research will tell you it was the German princess...... doooo deeee dahhh deee..... I'll look up her name in minute..... "

Or my mistake of course to suggest it was Albert who brought the tradition to this country .. so many mistakes .. must try harder in 2023

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By *ryan...Man
over a year ago

1950's Original

Didn't coca- cola have something to do with something somehow sometime..

Having Santa Claus wear red or something something somehow..and nothing really to do with Prince Albert Tatlock..who never actually made Prince....

I cannot be more clear..

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"Didn't coca- cola have something to do with something somehow sometime..

Having Santa Claus wear red or something something somehow..and nothing really to do with Prince Albert Tatlock..who never actually made Prince....

I cannot be more clear.. "

Are you writing from that well in Australia?! Your signal is scrambled

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Didn't coca- cola have something to do with something somehow sometime..

Having Santa Claus wear red or something something somehow..and nothing really to do with Prince Albert Tatlock..who never actually made Prince....

I cannot be more clear.. "

Albert Tatlock invented the reindeer pie - the one baked in a flat cap with brown ale gravy

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley


"...

Jesus would not have been born in winter time. The Bible states that Mary & Joseph had to travel to complete a Census and it's likely a Census would have taken place in spring time. A guess is that Jesus might have been born between April and June (assuming that the Jesus of Nazareth who is recorded as having been crucified during the reign of the governorship of Pontius Pilate (AD26-36) was indeed the same dude the Bible claims is/was the son of god).

"

The term "dude" always puts me in mind of baseball caps worn the wrong way round.

I will never, now, be able to visualise Jesus in the same way as before.

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley


"Christmas was invented to create light in the darkest part of the year. We all get down in ourselves when there is little light so Christmas brightens things during the darkest part of the year. "

In the Northern Hemisphere.

They hadn't discovered the Southern Semisphere in those days.

Now they have artificial snow in Australia and New Zealand at Christmas.

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

Sorry about the Semishere, I've been drinking for Boxing Day.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes, because of all the reasons above. I think there should be more bonfires and sex built into it, I feel we have lost some of the best bits of its different origins

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"...

Jesus would not have been born in winter time. The Bible states that Mary & Joseph had to travel to complete a Census and it's likely a Census would have taken place in spring time. A guess is that Jesus might have been born between April and June (assuming that the Jesus of Nazareth who is recorded as having been crucified during the reign of the governorship of Pontius Pilate (AD26-36) was indeed the same dude the Bible claims is/was the son of god).

The term "dude" always puts me in mind of baseball caps worn the wrong way round.

I will never, now, be able to visualise Jesus in the same way as before."

I am sure Jesus would have sported culturally, climatologically and fashionably suitable headgear, even back in ye olde days

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38


"It was taken from Paganism, the reason we have fairy lights, Christmas trees etc.

Christians believe Jesus is the light of the world so Yule was perfect to become Christmas.

I always thought the Christmas tree was a tradition introduced by Prince Albert and fairy lights were a safer alienative to candles on trees

Noooooo. Prince Albert introduced the tradition of having a ring put through your bell end so you could hang baubles from it at Xmas.

A

My mistake

My ability to type alternative was also my mistake "

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