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By *lackshadow7 OP   Man
over a year ago

Toronto

Tolkien heads gather around. Currently doing my annual rewatch of the Trilogy, and re-read of both The Silmarillion & Unfinished Tales.

Tell me your favourite scene from the Trilogy.

For me, there are so many standout moments, but The Lighting of the Beacons (from Minas Tirith) gives me goosebumps EVERY TIME! Howard Shore definitely decided to flex on the score here, cos it is accompanying musical perfection.

Link for anyone wanting an eargasm:

https://youtu.be/w_hnJNnKZz0

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By *xposedInTheSunCouple
over a year ago

Cambridgeshire

Personally I like the bit where Turin finds his sister naked, and ends up getting her pregnant.

But maybe you were looking for something a little more uplifting?

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By *lackshadow7 OP   Man
over a year ago

Toronto


"Personally I like the bit where Turin finds his sister naked, and ends up getting her pregnant.

But maybe you were looking for something a little more uplifting?"

Turin’s entire existence was one great big tragedy. I do like that he’ll return to finally end Morgoth, so some measure of redemption.

I was more asking about the film trilogy

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By *ingerbeardman-Man
over a year ago

Sutton-in-Ashfield

I've always liked Sam's poem for Gandalf while the Elves sing their lament. Always makes me tear up!

Either that or "my friends, you bow to no one!"

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By *partharmonyCouple
over a year ago

Ruislip

We are also rewatching it at the moment.

I don't really have a favourite scene. I'm still trying to understand what's going on.

I like the ongoing competition between Legolas and Gimley. My favourite line is when Legolas brings down one of those elephant things in a battle and Gimley shouts at him "That still only counts as one!" Luke

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I get the creeps when bilbo sees the ring with frodo and for a second he turns into a monster

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Ride of the Rohirrm

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By *lackshadow7 OP   Man
over a year ago

Toronto


"The Ride of the Rohirrm "

A man of exquisite taste i see

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By *vd1987Man
over a year ago

Manchester

The battle of pelennor fields music always gets me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Borimir's death, when he recovers his honour.

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By *hePerkyPumpkinTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol

Boromir protecting Merry and Pippin

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By *ocusMan
over a year ago

Cambridge

“Look to my coming on the first light of the fifth day, at dawn look to the east”

In case the defenders (or indeed the readers/viewers) are in any doubt Helm’s Deep isn’t about winning. It’s just survival against overwhelming odds. No matter what it takes, no matter the cost, no matter the sacrifice they have to survive this otherwise the enemy wins and Middle Earth is lost.

And if the defenders do prevail, the war is only just beginning…

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By *lackshadow7 OP   Man
over a year ago

Toronto


"I get the creeps when bilbo sees the ring with frodo and for a second he turns into a monster "

Love this scene cos it shows the power the Ring could have, even on someone as resilient as Bilbo.

It also gave us a glimpse into the Ring stsrting to gain power over Frodo, showing us HIS perception of Bilbo as a monster (in that moment)

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By *ickshawedCouple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

I really love the scene at the start of the first film when Gandalf shows up. It's a pleasant community with no real worries. The music is so cheerful. It just makes me happy to hear it.

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By *ocusMan
over a year ago

Cambridge

The most heartbreaking scene is Gandalf’s reaction when Frodo says he will take the Ring to Mordor at the Council of Elrond.

Not only does he know the terrible price Frodo will pay but I think he knows that even if they are victorious against Sauron, Middle Earth as they know it will be gone forever. The Hobbits as a race represent innocence and Frodo’s ordeal marks the end of this. The repercussions will echo through the world and change it forever.

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By *lackshadow7 OP   Man
over a year ago

Toronto


"The most heartbreaking scene is Gandalf’s reaction when Frodo says he will take the Ring to Mordor at the Council of Elrond.

Not only does he know the terrible price Frodo will pay but I think he knows that even if they are victorious against Sauron, Middle Earth as they know it will be gone forever. The Hobbits as a race represent innocence and Frodo’s ordeal marks the end of this. The repercussions will echo through the world and change it forever."

Especially when you consider how long lived and battle weary so many of the folks gathered there are. The most unlikely of individuals there, would be the salvation of the Third Age. So poignant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Battle of Helm's Deep!

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

So many good moments already.

I also like the Ents getting shit done after deciding enough is enough.

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By *lackshadow7 OP   Man
over a year ago

Toronto


"Battle of Helm's Deep!"

An actual masterpiece!

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By *ily WhiteWoman
over a year ago

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I can't possibly pick just one scene

The Nazgul in Bree scene still makes me jump despite having seen it at least twenty times though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When Frodo tells Sam he’s getting on the ship and going with the elves. Gets me every time.

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By *lackshadow7 OP   Man
over a year ago

Toronto


"I can't possibly pick just one scene

The Nazgul in Bree scene still makes me jump despite having seen it at least twenty times though."

I still get a shiver down my spine any time the Nazgul appear on screen.


"So many good moments already.

I also like the Ents getting shit done after deciding enough is enough.

"

The Ents fucking up Isengard and sticking it to Saruman is truly amazing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So many moments really. I loved it when Arwen is trying to get Frodo to safety and is confronted by the Nazgul 'If you want him, come and take him'..ballsy woman.

I like the films very much and was quite looking forward to taking my daughter to see the first one, convinced she'd love it. She hated it, which really surprised me. She thought Frodo was a wet blanket and why didn't they just fly the ring to the mountain with the Eagles in the first place?....Kids, eh?

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

Chesterfield

Second breakfast!

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By *lackshadow7 OP   Man
over a year ago

Toronto


"why didn't they just fly the ring to the mountain with the Eagles in the first place?....Kids, eh?"

LOL the classic question

Long story short, the success of the Fellowship relied on discretion and a degree of stealth. Everything they did was designed to keep Sauron’s gaze fixed on their “military might”. He had no idea where the Ring was, and would never have suspected a tiny Hobbit would be able to endure carrying it, let alone make it all the way to Mount Doom.

So putting the Ring, and it’s bearer, on a giant Eagle, and flying straight to Mordor, would have been the worst idea. Basically a giant signal to the patrolling Nazgul to come obliterate them.

Also the Eagles were a proud, old, and noble race. They didn’t do requests

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By *eroLondonMan
over a year ago

Covent Garden

For me it's the flight of Melkor and Ungoliant into Arda. It symbolises the start of the epic troubles from FA to the culmination towards the TA.

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By *lackshadow7 OP   Man
over a year ago

Toronto


"For me it's the flight of Melkor and Ungoliant into Arda. It symbolises the start of the epic troubles from FA to the culmination towards the TA."

I don’t understand why the Valar forgave Melkor the first time (i get it but still)

Could have avoided so much carnage and destruction.

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By *ensuallover1000Man
over a year ago

Somewhere In The Ether…

I love the LOTR trilogy

The battle scenes were fucking EPIC!

Aragon’s rousing speech in, Return Of The King was one of my personal favourite moments:

‘My brothers,

I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me.

A day may come when the courage of Men fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is not this day.

An hour of wolves and shattered shields when the Age of Men comes crashing down, but it is not this day!

…..This day we fight!’

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You shall not pass!" with Gandalf in The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring, as he battles with Balrog in the Mines of Moria. Awesome.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love the quieter scenes. The fellowship is my favourite. Favourite scene? Probably when Frodo and the hobbits hide in the roots of a tree while the Nazgûl is right above them

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By *lephantisMan
over a year ago

Oxford

So many great moments already picked. But of the others...

Aragorn, before the Gates of Mordor, at the climax of the Third Age, saying quietly, simply, with a determined, sweet smile: 'For Frodo'.

Sam, toppling his third Orc into eternity in the tower of Mina Morgul: 'And that's for my old gaffer!'

Gandalf's description of Heaven/Valinor to a terrified Pippin,just before the Battle of Pelennor Fields.

Théoden's lament, based on Tolkien's own translation of the OE poem The Exile.

So many.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

As others say, so many great moments but, as with the books, ways enjoyed all the scenes with Gollum and also the Shelob, oh and the Witch King’s army leaving Minus Morgul, oh and... so many great scenes!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My favourite scene is when Frodo trips in the snow early after leaving Rivendell before Moria, and Boromir picks it up. The tension between everyone is incredible. I think it was the first clip they released, I can see why.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHHaKtVdfa0

Also, a) Gotta be the extended editions, and b) the Hobbit trilogy was gash, and should have been a tv series not films.

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By *P994Man
over a year ago

Travelling

In Mines of Moria when they’re trapped and the orcs and cave trolls are coming to get them and they hear the loud steps and scurrying down the walls. Frodo is saved by the mithril and the quest continues.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

I like the bit towards the end when the eagles arrive and lift them to safety then Bilbo and same and all the others realise that gandalf could have used them from the start to get to Mordor.

So they all get together and take turns beating the crap out of gandalf before feeding him to the balrog.

The end

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By *lackshadow7 OP   Man
over a year ago

Toronto


"My favourite scene is when Frodo trips in the snow early after leaving Rivendell before Moria, and Boromir picks it up. The tension between everyone is incredible. I think it was the first clip they released, I can see why.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHHaKtVdfa0

Also, a) Gotta be the extended editions, and b) the Hobbit trilogy was gash, and should have been a tv series not films."

The foreshadowing in that scene was *chef’s kiss*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Boromir protecting Merry and Pippin"

That whole sequence that leads to that and after is great. The sweeping camera shots as they run down the hill. The fights at the top of the hill, Boromir protecting the Hobbits and then Aragorn comes charging in

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"I like the bit towards the end when the eagles arrive and lift them to safety then Bilbo and same and all the others realise that gandalf could have used them from the start to get to Mordor.

So they all get together and take turns beating the crap out of gandalf before feeding him to the balrog.

The end "

Spoil sport! Sure Tolkien must have thought of that. I reckon he would say something about the Eagle’s having free will and agency of their own to help in a manner they see fit. But yeah. in both The Hobbit and LOTR the Eagles could have saved a lot of time and bother!

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By *lackshadow7 OP   Man
over a year ago

Toronto


"I like the bit towards the end when the eagles arrive and lift them to safety then Bilbo and same and all the others realise that gandalf could have used them from the start to get to Mordor.

So they all get together and take turns beating the crap out of gandalf before feeding him to the balrog.

The end

Spoil sport! Sure Tolkien must have thought of that. I reckon he would say something about the Eagle’s having free will and agency of their own to help in a manner they see fit. But yeah. in both The Hobbit and LOTR the Eagles could have saved a lot of time and bother!"

If he’d bothered to scroll up in the thread, i explained the whole Eagle thing in some depth

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When the ring wraiths are chasing Liv Tyler through the woodson horses, fuuuuuuuck

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Moria is a great concept.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.


"I like the bit towards the end when the eagles arrive and lift them to safety then Bilbo and same and all the others realise that gandalf could have used them from the start to get to Mordor.

So they all get together and take turns beating the crap out of gandalf before feeding him to the balrog.

The end

Spoil sport! Sure Tolkien must have thought of that. I reckon he would say something about the Eagle’s having free will and agency of their own to help in a manner they see fit. But yeah. in both The Hobbit and LOTR the Eagles could have saved a lot of time and bother!

If he’d bothered to scroll up in the thread, i explained the whole Eagle thing in some depth "

Yeah but that would have involved effort on my behalf.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

Ok I'll admit I'm a fan of much darker source material.

I'm a Brian Lumley fan

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By *lackshadow7 OP   Man
over a year ago

Toronto


"Moria is a great concept. "

“Speak, friend, and enter.”

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

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It's not quite got the grandiose cinematography but when Pippin sings All Shall Fade. That juxtaposition between the simplicity of the folk song and the certain death Faramir faced always made me cry a bit. I think it's also because his voice cracks and you hear the futility and hopelessness in such a raw way. I'm a bit of a soppy so and so.

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville

A clean handkerchief.

Second breakfast.

Merry and Pippin with the Ents.

All comedy gold moments!

Frodo telling Sam that he's getting on the boat..dust in my eyes, every time...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sooooo many favs. another one of mine is the battle of light and shadow when the Necromancer defeats Gandalf, destroys his staff & then reveals himself as the Dark Lord Sauron. Awesome scenes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Apologies OP, digression to The Hobbit - The Desolation of Smaug

enjoy all of J. R. R. Tolkien

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By *eralt80Man
over a year ago

cork

When Gandalf and Eomer lead the charge of Rohirrim against Sarumans army at Helms Deep.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Scene from PT 3 when the crowd parts and Aragon sees Arwen. Forgets he is a king and kisses her like a man. Then everyone kneeling to Hobbits. Tear jerking very time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Since you were r*bbed of Borimir, I will do what I can in his stead..."

David Wenham's portrayal of Farimir's grief at being emotionally rejected by his father makes me tear up and my chest hurt. Every time.

BTW, why can't I say "r o b b e d"?

Nell

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By *host63Man
over a year ago

Bedfont Feltham

Seeing the cavalry appear on the ridge and attack the besieging army

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

my favourite bit of the book is when they arte lost in the mines of moria.frodo says "i wish the ring had never come to me" gandolf replies" that is not for you to decide,you can decide what to do with the time you are given"

for me its all the small details in the book..my only disapointment with the film is the ending

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By *lackshadow7 OP   Man
over a year ago

Toronto


"It's not quite got the grandiose cinematography but when Pippin sings All Shall Fade. That juxtaposition between the simplicity of the folk song and the certain death Faramir faced always made me cry a bit. I think it's also because his voice cracks and you hear the futility and hopelessness in such a raw way. I'm a bit of a soppy so and so."

Honestly, it gets me every damn time, so i totally understand

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

I liked the bit in the mines when the bucket got accidentally knocked into the well.

The panic, then relief then panic and foreboding with the rumbling of the oncoming menace.

Also you can't not mention the balrog.

Awesome

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By *ello HarveyMan
over a year ago

Lots of places

One does not simply walk into Mordor

It’s a timeless classic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love all the 'darker' scenes with Gandalf. The battle between him and Saruman was epic, and the scene in part 3 with Saruman and Gandalf trading words was a different kind of epic.

Also, from the book and film when they all have the meeting regarding the one ring, the movie depicts it very well I thought, but it's different to reading for me anyways.

Might have to give them all a watch soon

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never watched one , is it worth the time ?

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

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""Since you were r*bbed of Borimir, I will do what I can in his stead..."

David Wenham's portrayal of Farimir's grief at being emotionally rejected by his father makes me tear up and my chest hurt. Every time.

BTW, why can't I say "r o b b e d"?

Nell"

I do not know Nell. Weird isn't it?

But yes, this moment is so beautiful. Don't get me wrong, I love the more majestic fighting scenes. But those displays of emotions are so perfectly captured, the nuanced complexities of being alive. I'm probably going to have to do a LotR marathon over Christmas.

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By *lackshadow7 OP   Man
over a year ago

Toronto


"

Also you can't not mention the balrog.

Awesome "

Gandalf vs the Balrog will forever be etched in my memory. Two powerful Maiar going at it, in a battle that would prove more important to the fate of Middle Earth than they probably knew at the time. EPIC!


"Never watched one , is it worth the time ? "

I genuinely believe so. Are you a fan of the fantasy genre? Cos that will probably determine if you’ll like this or not, to begin with.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In front of the gates. When Aragorn leads the final charge against the insurmountable odds and Merry and Pippin charge with him just to possibly give Sam and Frodo a chance. Brave little hobbits.

And of course when Frodo turns to Sam and Sam realises he is leaving forever.

For the comedy Gimli and Legolas and Merry and Pippin. 2 double acts and some great one liners.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm watching the fellowship now!

Haven't seen them in ages.

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By *eroLondonMan
over a year ago

Covent Garden

She's Bored Øf The Rings. ^

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think I’m the only person in my family that actually likes it…fortunately I have box set, extended editions…

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By *luebellRacerCouple
over a year ago

Shropshire

When Aragorn unsheaths Andúril in the Valley of the Dead and tells the King of the Dead

"You will suffer me!"

*shivers*

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By *lackshadow7 OP   Man
over a year ago

Toronto


"When Aragorn unsheaths Andúril in the Valley of the Dead and tells the King of the Dead

"You will suffer me!"

*shivers* "

On the subject of Andúril, when he uses the Palantir against Sauron, brandishes the sword, and Sauron trolls him right back by showing him Arwen dying.

I laughed harder than i should have

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By *luebellRacerCouple
over a year ago

Shropshire


"When Aragorn unsheaths Andúril in the Valley of the Dead and tells the King of the Dead

"You will suffer me!"

*shivers*

On the subject of Andúril, when he uses the Palantir against Sauron, brandishes the sword, and Sauron trolls him right back by showing him Arwen dying.

I laughed harder than i should have "

Heartless!

However, it did the job. Drew all his attention to the Black Gate, meaning Sam and Frodo had easy(ish) access to Mount Doom.

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville


"One does not simply walk into Mordor

It’s a timeless classic "

Very true!

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling

20 years of Fellowship last year, 20 years of Towers this year,

20 years of Return next year!

The Two Towers overall is by far the best of the 3 movies.

Theoden has the best dialogue in all 3 movies. And Bernard Hill delivers them perfectly.

Ride of the Rohirrim is a masterpiece, very few scenes are able to accomplish what it did from every angle and yet still give chills when rewatching it years later.

Unpopular opinion (though not as unpopular as some think) leaving out Tom Bombadil from the movies was the best decision Jackson could have made - other than the Barrow wights chapter, his whole section would have destroyed the movie. He served little to no purpose to the story.

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By *ecadent_DevonMan
over a year ago

Okehampton

The bit with Tom Bombadil…

Oh wait..

Stupid film

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By *ecadent_DevonMan
over a year ago

Okehampton


"20 years of Fellowship last year, 20 years of Towers this year,

20 years of Return next year!

The Two Towers overall is by far the best of the 3 movies.

Theoden has the best dialogue in all 3 movies. And Bernard Hill delivers them perfectly.

Ride of the Rohirrim is a masterpiece, very few scenes are able to accomplish what it did from every angle and yet still give chills when rewatching it years later.

Unpopular opinion (though not as unpopular as some think) leaving out Tom Bombadil from the movies was the best decision Jackson could have made - other than the Barrow wights chapter, his whole section would have destroyed the movie. He served little to no purpose to the story.

"

Tom Bombadil is the pivotal character in the books, he puts the ring on and nothing happens, and when Gandalf accompanies the hobbits back to the shire he goes off to see Tom, leaving the hobbits to the scouring..

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By *lackshadow7 OP   Man
over a year ago

Toronto

As much as I like Tom Bombadil as a book character, i don’t think his inclusion in the movies would have done much to forward the overall plot. And specifically, he cares little for the world of Middle Earth outside of his domain.

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By *ecadent_DevonMan
over a year ago

Okehampton


"As much as I like Tom Bombadil as a book character, i don’t think his inclusion in the movies would have done much to forward the overall plot. And specifically, he cares little for the world of Middle Earth outside of his domain."

Merry gets given the sword by Tom that eventually disables the witch king, allowing eowyn to finish him off.

The Witch King has awakened evil trees and barrow wights, and Tom must help the hobbits thru his realm. (Old man willow)

Tom want the witch king dead due to his perversion of nature and provided Merry the means to lay low one of the most powerful protagonists on the side of evil.

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By *lecom1Couple
over a year ago

Stornoway

I was always on the side of the orcs, they should have had their wicked way with the fellowship, I'm sure they would have enjoyed their way with the elves

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By *erces LetiferMan
over a year ago

Somewhere off the edge of the map... 'ere there be monsters

My two top moments from an emotional standpoint are both from Sam. First near the end of The Two Towers, his 'Holding On' speech to Frodo (that Gollum and Faramir overhear).

The second moment is near the end of The Return of the King, when he lifts Frodo onto his shoulders to carry him the last little bit up Mt. Doom, and the instrumental version of 'Into the West' swells.

Sam is the GOAT, the MVP of the whole trilogy, in my opinion.

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By *lackshadow7 OP   Man
over a year ago

Toronto


"My two top moments from an emotional standpoint are both from Sam. First near the end of The Two Towers, his 'Holding On' speech to Frodo (that Gollum and Faramir overhear).

The second moment is near the end of The Return of the King, when he lifts Frodo onto his shoulders to carry him the last little bit up Mt. Doom, and the instrumental version of 'Into the West' swells.

Sam is the GOAT, the MVP of the whole trilogy, in my opinion."

Agreed. Every part of their plan falls apart if Sam hadn’t saved Frodo’s ass multiple times. I’m glad he got to sail West to Valinor in the end.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The bit where the hobbits are in the tree tops and watching a massive army of orcs are marching through a valley.

Also the part where a hobbit says something like, let's forget all this and just go home to the shire, and his friend turns to him and says there won't be a shire!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The choral soundtrack playing at the end of the first hobbit film when the eagles are carrying the 13, gandalf, plus bilbo to a safe peak, in slow motion with the new zealand landscapes in the background.

Also, at the end of the battle of 5 armies, when thorin has a heart to heart with bilbo in his dying moments, gets me in the feels..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just realized..you're not watching the hobbit films, just the LOTR trilogy..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

-The gathering of the ents & giving sarauman what for..

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"My two top moments from an emotional standpoint are both from Sam. First near the end of The Two Towers, his 'Holding On' speech to Frodo (that Gollum and Faramir overhear).

The second moment is near the end of The Return of the King, when he lifts Frodo onto his shoulders to carry him the last little bit up Mt. Doom, and the instrumental version of 'Into the West' swells.

Sam is the GOAT, the MVP of the whole trilogy, in my opinion.

Agreed. Every part of their plan falls apart if Sam hadn’t saved Frodo’s ass multiple times. I’m glad he got to sail West to Valinor in the end."

Whether it was intentional by Tolkien or not, Sam faithfully serving and saving Frodo was a commentary on the upper class depending on the working class.

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By *lephantisMan
over a year ago

Oxford


"My two top moments from an emotional standpoint are both from Sam. First near the end of The Two Towers, his 'Holding On' speech to Frodo (that Gollum and Faramir overhear).

The second moment is near the end of The Return of the King, when he lifts Frodo onto his shoulders to carry him the last little bit up Mt. Doom, and the instrumental version of 'Into the West' swells.

Sam is the GOAT, the MVP of the whole trilogy, in my opinion.

Agreed. Every part of their plan falls apart if Sam hadn’t saved Frodo’s ass multiple times. I’m glad he got to sail West to Valinor in the end.

Whether it was intentional by Tolkien or not, Sam faithfully serving and saving Frodo was a commentary on the upper class depending on the working class."

I'm sure it was intentional. He was understandably marked for life by his time in the trenches, and began writing LOTR in 1917.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My two top moments from an emotional standpoint are both from Sam. First near the end of The Two Towers, his 'Holding On' speech to Frodo (that Gollum and Faramir overhear).

The second moment is near the end of The Return of the King, when he lifts Frodo onto his shoulders to carry him the last little bit up Mt. Doom, and the instrumental version of 'Into the West' swells.

Sam is the GOAT, the MVP of the whole trilogy, in my opinion.

Agreed. Every part of their plan falls apart if Sam hadn’t saved Frodo’s ass multiple times. I’m glad he got to sail West to Valinor in the end.

Whether it was intentional by Tolkien or not, Sam faithfully serving and saving Frodo was a commentary on the upper class depending on the working class."

I think the balance of doing it for friendship and love far outweighed any aspects of servitude or class struggle. They drank together in the pub, they were best friends, if anything it showed that class was no boundary amongst hobbits, ergo should have none.

Sam was the real hero though, can't deny.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"My two top moments from an emotional standpoint are both from Sam. First near the end of The Two Towers, his 'Holding On' speech to Frodo (that Gollum and Faramir overhear).

The second moment is near the end of The Return of the King, when he lifts Frodo onto his shoulders to carry him the last little bit up Mt. Doom, and the instrumental version of 'Into the West' swells.

Sam is the GOAT, the MVP of the whole trilogy, in my opinion.

Agreed. Every part of their plan falls apart if Sam hadn’t saved Frodo’s ass multiple times. I’m glad he got to sail West to Valinor in the end.

Whether it was intentional by Tolkien or not, Sam faithfully serving and saving Frodo was a commentary on the upper class depending on the working class.

I think the balance of doing it for friendship and love far outweighed any aspects of servitude or class struggle. They drank together in the pub, they were best friends, if anything it showed that class was no boundary amongst hobbits, ergo should have none.

Sam was the real hero though, can't deny."

Friends yes but in the same way the Lord of the Manor is friends with his gardener. He is still his employer. Sam addresses him (mostly) as “Mr Frodo” whereas Merry and Pippin (Frodo’s relatives) do not.

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By *lackshadow7 OP   Man
over a year ago

Toronto


"-The gathering of the ents & giving sarauman what for.. "

Saruman really got the business from all ends. The Ents defeated him. Gandalf humiliated him. Grima turned on him. And then later on, he tried to take the Shire only to lose to the Hobbits.

Then Manwe blew his spirit away to add the final insult

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