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Police Driving Ambulances

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Reports that the police union is expressing 'grave' concerns about being sent to drive ambulances during the strike. Not sure if the use of the word grave is appropriate but if the Chiefs men are driving ambulances are then who is chasing the burgalers. Just send in the army. It's all over the news this one. What's going on here ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The police drove ambulances during the last Paramedics strike.

And im not sure if people are aware of this, but some Firefighters have been driving ambulances for a few years in London.

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By *istyPeaksCouple
over a year ago

braintree

Butchers & farm hands drove ambulances in ww2.

Shit happens

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Police would be doing it on their rest days and, ironically, earning shitloads of money in doing so. I would expect they will use van drivers and advanced drivers. London Ambulance Service already has volunteer drivers. I volunteered to drive an ambulance in my county, for free, but they don't have such a scheme. Any military driving them will just get their regular pay, which is less than the paramedics get. This is only considering actual driving though, not doing paramedic stuff.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Police would be doing it on their rest days and, ironically, earning shitloads of money in doing so. I would expect they will use van drivers and advanced drivers. London Ambulance Service already has volunteer drivers. I volunteered to drive an ambulance in my county, for free, but they don't have such a scheme. Any military driving them will just get their regular pay, which is less than the paramedics get. This is only considering actual driving though, not doing paramedic stuff."

Firefighters have also been approached to use their rest days.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Butchers & farm hands drove ambulances in ww2.

Shit happens"

But that's slightly different and they need to be specialist drivers it can't just be anybody.

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By *batMan
over a year ago

Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales)


"Reports that the police union is expressing 'grave' concerns about being sent to drive ambulances during the strike. Not sure if the use of the word grave is appropriate but if the Chiefs men are driving ambulances are then who is chasing the burgalers. Just send in the army. It's all over the news this one. What's going on here ?"

Hey Tom,

There is no police union. Police Officers are prohibited by law from being union members.

Some of the Chief's best men are women.

Police Officers don't chase "burgalers" as there is no such word.

Police Officers who would drive ambulances would not be diverted from their day to day duty. They would be doing so as overtime on their scheduled rest days. It would be financed from outside the police budget.

What's going on here?

Gbat

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Butchers & farm hands drove ambulances in ww2.

Shit happens

But that's slightly different and they need to be specialist drivers it can't just be anybody. "

There would probably be a hierarchy. Anyone could drive a non-response vehicle, appropriate licence notwithstanding. Any response should really be advanced drivers but let's face it, you'd take someone on L plates if your life is on the line.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Butchers & farm hands drove ambulances in ww2.

Shit happens

But that's slightly different and they need to be specialist drivers it can't just be anybody.

There would probably be a hierarchy. Anyone could drive a non-response vehicle, appropriate licence notwithstanding. Any response should really be advanced drivers but let's face it, you'd take someone on L plates if your life is on the line.

"

That's true.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"The police drove ambulances during the last Paramedics strike.

And im not sure if people are aware of this, but some Firefighters have been driving ambulances for a few years in London. "

That ended last year, it was on a voluntary basis to help out during the height of the pandemic.

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By *sleWightCoupleCouple
over a year ago

Ryde

They'll be able to personally take those in custody to hospital when they accidentally fall down the stairs.

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By *batMan
over a year ago

Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales)


"They'll be able to personally take those in custody to hospital when they accidentally fall down the stairs."

Yeah, like those bastards wading into the frozen lake trying to save children this week!

Gbat

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Butchers & farm hands drove ambulances in ww2.

Shit happens

But that's slightly different and they need to be specialist drivers it can't just be anybody. "

Why do you need a specialist driver to park up at A and E with a patient that you can't unload for 8 hours.. ?

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By *hors fantasyCouple
over a year ago

Blackpool

Funny old world we clapped for our heroes during the great scam of 2020-20?? But now they want an inflation matching pay rise the government can’t disown them fast enough

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Funny old world we clapped for our heroes during the great scam of 2020-20?? But now they want an inflation matching pay rise the government can’t disown them fast enough "

Did the politicians get a pay rise ?

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

I heard that it was the army who would be driving

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I heard that it was the army who would be driving "

The army where the majority of those driving the ambulances will be on less money than the ambulance drivers plus all leave has now been cancelled.

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle


"I heard that it was the army who would be driving

The army where the majority of those driving the ambulances will be on less money than the ambulance drivers plus all leave has now been cancelled. "

Back to plan xyz

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By *oah VailMan
over a year ago

Dover


"Funny old world we clapped for our heroes during the great scam of 2020-20?? But now they want an inflation matching pay rise the government can’t disown them fast enough

Did the politicians get a pay rise ?"

MPs got a £2,500 pay increase in 2020 and a £2,200 raise last March.

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple
over a year ago

Leeds

About time they did something useful.

The mr

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By *TG3Man
over a year ago

Dorchester


"Reports that the police union is expressing 'grave' concerns about being sent to drive ambulances during the strike. Not sure if the use of the word grave is appropriate but if the Chiefs men are driving ambulances are then who is chasing the burgalers. Just send in the army. It's all over the news this one. What's going on here ?"
well the police are used to driving at speed with flashing lights and going through red lights trying to catch the criminal element of the UK its drivers (more money in the coffers) let's hope they save lives instead, much better use of them.

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By *TG3Man
over a year ago

Dorchester


"Butchers & farm hands drove ambulances in ww2.

Shit happens

But that's slightly different and they need to be specialist drivers it can't just be anybody.

Why do you need a specialist driver to park up at A and E with a patient that you can't unload for 8 hours.. ?"
lol

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

What choice do we have ? We could ask the train drivers , they have lots of free data at the moment, but it would take them as least 7 years to train them up and they would need 6 of them per vehicle to ensure public safety

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By *TG3Man
over a year ago

Dorchester


"What choice do we have ? We could ask the train drivers , they have lots of free data at the moment, but it would take them as least 7 years to train them up and they would need 6 of them per vehicle to ensure public safety "
data did you mean time?

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By *achel SmythTV/TS
over a year ago

Farnborough


"I heard that it was the army who would be driving

The army where the majority of those driving the ambulances will be on less money than the ambulance drivers plus all leave has now been cancelled. "

Exactly this!! … the Army are increasingly becoming the governments fall back plan and ‘fourth emergency service in an emergency’. The bulk of these tasks will fall to junior ranks who do not earn anything like what professional drivers do, and do not forget many of them were also on the front line through the pandemic. I know thousands have had their Christmas leave already cancelled and on 24hrs notice to move to locations around the country to backfill … and they have no right of complaint / refusal ir strike … so well done here, lives put at (even more) risk, and a good number of service folk who will likely not see much of their families this Christmas - again!

So here is a question …. IF the forces were allowed to strike … would you see paramedics / drivers / postmen etc filling in for them on the frontline in any conflict! … I think not!

R x

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By *wingamajigsCouple
over a year ago

Folkestone


"Police would be doing it on their rest days and, ironically, earning shitloads of money in doing so. I would expect they will use van drivers and advanced drivers. London Ambulance Service already has volunteer drivers. I volunteered to drive an ambulance in my county, for free, but they don't have such a scheme. Any military driving them will just get their regular pay, which is less than the paramedics get. This is only considering actual driving though, not doing paramedic stuff."

Police have had a real term pay cut of 13% since 2009 so why not earn some money from central government, not from local. I have a friend who is a police officer, she is having to work in a care home on her days off to afford to live. So if she chooses to drive an ambulance on overtime in her own time Im happy she gets paid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Putting who drives it to one side, there’s not much point turning up in a fully kitted ambulance, if you can’t use the kit.

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

Chesterfield


"Putting who drives it to one side, there’s not much point turning up in a fully kitted ambulance, if you can’t use the kit."

This. It still needs a paramedic in it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Putting who drives it to one side, there’s not much point turning up in a fully kitted ambulance, if you can’t use the kit.

This. It still needs a paramedic in it. "

I think it's because not all are striking so obviously those trained paramedics and ambulance technicians are better used inside the ambulance and someone else can drive.

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By *lascumMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Fire service were trained to drive ambulances in Scotland during the pandemic as fire appliance drivers are already qualified response drivers.

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