FabSwingers.com forum: C4 undercover sexual harassment

By *ttmcdguy OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

Omg did anyone watch it last night?

I really feel for female’s having to deal with that !

But was it just me or were most of the guys who were offending not of British nationality?

That comment is not of anything racial or hatred! It’s an observation

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Taped it to watch later. 'British' men do it too.

Most men don't realise.

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By *bi HaiveMan
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over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"Omg did anyone watch it last night?

I really feel for female’s having to deal with that !

But was it just me or were most of the guys who were offending not of British nationality?

That comment is not of anything racial or hatred! It’s an observation "

Haven't watched it yet as was busy....but did they give out the nationalities of the people involved, or is it an assumption based on something else?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bad people don't have a specific race, gender or nationality. They do what they do because they are bad people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Omg did anyone watch it last night?

I really feel for female’s having to deal with that !

But was it just me or were most of the guys who were offending not of British nationality?

That comment is not of anything racial or hatred! It’s an observation "

The men didn't have traditional "English" accents, no, but could be British.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bad people don't have a specific race, gender or nationality. They do what they do because they are bad people."

This .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bad people don't have a specific race, gender or nationality. They do what they do because they are bad people."

They do if it helps push an existing narrative

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bad people don't have a specific race, gender or nationality. They do what they do because they are bad people.

They do if it helps push an existing narrative

Exactly that or to win an election

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By *aunchy RaccoonsCouple
over a year ago

Exeter

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By *aunchy RaccoonsCouple
over a year ago

Exeter

I'm sure a lot of guys on here would feel a bit guilty if they watched it, not the bit we're she was followed but the section about messages.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's part of being a women unfortunately. It shouldn't be. But it is.

Every women will experience some form of sexual harrasment in they're life.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I caught part of it near the end. So I will watch it again ....... before I make my mind up.

I have a few questions which is why I want to watch it again....

I'm not sure about why they set things up the way they did.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's part of being a women unfortunately. It shouldn't be. But it is.

Every women will experience some form of sexual harrasment in they're life. "

Hopefully the new laws that will be bought in will help eliminate that on the street harassment. Just need some of that good will be adhere in DM messages by everyone.

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

"Bad people don't have a specific race, gender or nationality. They do what they do because they are bad people."

I somewhat disagree with this.

Yes bad people are bad regardless.

But certain cultures are brought up to treat women very differently and with no respect for them.

Yes it's bad and wrong.

It seems odd to make a show about harassment in this country and show mainly foreign nationals.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

3rd time lucky:

Just watched it on my lunch break, it was pretty shocking.

Unbelievable the way in which some men behave.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Bad people don't have a specific race, gender or nationality. They do what they do because they are bad people.

I somewhat disagree with this.

Yes bad people are bad regardless.

But certain cultures are brought up to treat women very differently and with no respect for them.

Yes it's bad and wrong.

It seems odd to make a show about harassment in this country and show mainly foreign nationals.

They are not brought up to disrespect women. Just to believe that women are chattel , in need of protection, domestic servants, sexual sl-aves , brainless , irresponsible, never an adult and highly dispensable .....

Just like the deluded West really.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've only seen one clip but I'm if all the voices are altered like the clip I've seen it's hard to tell what nationality anyone is.

Also it matters not one tiny bit.

Talk about deflection.

I think we all need to analyse how we have acted in the past and present.

I've definitely unintentionally belong close or across the line of what is appropriate in my last.

Its cringe inducing to thunk about now but most was down to ignorance.

Open discussion and education needs to start early on for this.

And that's across the board too I've been grabbed and slapped by hen parties

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By *issmeltingpotWoman
over a year ago

Darlington

"I've only seen one clip but I'm if all the voices are altered like the clip I've seen it's hard to tell what nationality anyone is.

Also it matters not one tiny bit.

Talk about deflection.

I think we all need to analyse how we have acted in the past and present.

I've definitely unintentionally belong close or across the line of what is appropriate in my last.

Its cringe inducing to thunk about now but most was down to ignorance.

Open discussion and education needs to start early on for this.

And that's across the board too I've been grabbed and slapped by hen parties "

I concur with your last sentence.

My brother runs a pub in Newcastle.

Some of the cctv footage he’s shown me in the past of inside the bar during just one night is eye opening to say the least.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've only seen one clip but I'm if all the voices are altered like the clip I've seen it's hard to tell what nationality anyone is.

Also it matters not one tiny bit.

Talk about deflection.

I think we all need to analyse how we have acted in the past and present.

I've definitely unintentionally belong close or across the line of what is appropriate in my last.

Its cringe inducing to thunk about now but most was down to ignorance.

Open discussion and education needs to start early on for this.

And that's across the board too I've been grabbed and slapped by hen parties

I concur with your last sentence.

My brother runs a pub in Newcastle.

Some of the cctv footage he’s shown me in the past of inside the bar during just one night is eye opening to say the least.

To be honest I'm I was reluctant to put it in because it can come across as what aboutery.

But I think it's all part of the same issue and not an us vs them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've only seen one clip but I'm if all the voices are altered like the clip I've seen it's hard to tell what nationality anyone is.

Also it matters not one tiny bit.

Talk about deflection.

I think we all need to analyse how we have acted in the past and present.

I've definitely unintentionally belong close or across the line of what is appropriate in my last.

Its cringe inducing to thunk about now but most was down to ignorance.

Open discussion and education needs to start early on for this.

And that's across the board too I've been grabbed and slapped by hen parties

I concur with your last sentence.

My brother runs a pub in Newcastle.

Some of the cctv footage he’s shown me in the past of inside the bar during just one night is eye opening to say the least.

To be honest I'm I was reluctant to put it in because it can come across as what aboutery.

But I think it's all part of the same issue and not an us vs them"

I agree it's not a one sided issue. It seems socially acceptable for women to objectify men and harmless when making comments or touching them. It's a conversation for harassment in general, no matter what the gender people need to be educated on whats not acceptable.

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By *ellinever70Woman
over a year ago

Ayrshire

"I've only seen one clip but I'm if all the voices are altered like the clip I've seen it's hard to tell what nationality anyone is.

Also it matters not one tiny bit.

Talk about deflection.

I think we all need to analyse how we have acted in the past and present.

I've definitely unintentionally belong close or across the line of what is appropriate in my last.

Its cringe inducing to thunk about now but most was down to ignorance.

Open discussion and education needs to start early on for this.

And that's across the board too I've been grabbed and slapped by hen parties

I concur with your last sentence.

My brother runs a pub in Newcastle.

Some of the cctv footage he’s shown me in the past of inside the bar during just one night is eye opening to say the least.

To be honest I'm I was reluctant to put it in because it can come across as what aboutery.

But I think it's all part of the same issue and not an us vs them

But it's still okay to have the spotlight on the bigger issue

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've only seen one clip but I'm if all the voices are altered like the clip I've seen it's hard to tell what nationality anyone is.

Also it matters not one tiny bit.

Talk about deflection.

I think we all need to analyse how we have acted in the past and present.

I've definitely unintentionally belong close or across the line of what is appropriate in my last.

Its cringe inducing to thunk about now but most was down to ignorance.

Open discussion and education needs to start early on for this.

And that's across the board too I've been grabbed and slapped by hen parties

I concur with your last sentence.

My brother runs a pub in Newcastle.

Some of the cctv footage he’s shown me in the past of inside the bar during just one night is eye opening to say the least.

To be honest I'm I was reluctant to put it in because it can come across as what aboutery.

But I think it's all part of the same issue and not an us vs them

But it's still okay to have the spotlight on the bigger issue "

Absolutely and to understand there are differences in the level of threat and danger associated with both.

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By *inkyInkedBiWoman
over a year ago

I watched it and wasn’t surprised or shocked at all.

I’m glad it was highlighted. It’s not just when you’re out and d*unk of a night though, it can be any time any day.

Every woman you know will have experienced some sort of sexual harassment

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By *issmorganWoman
over a year ago

Calderdale innit

I'm just watching this ok catch up

Sadly I'm not surprised by some of it ie the bombarding with dick pics on the app she's joined ,I've had that on fb messenger in the past,as have lots of my friends .

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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago

Near Wells

The lady was on Jeremy Vine's radio show today.

I'll catch the programme tonight, it doesn't sound good though.

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By *iltsTSgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

chichester

"Omg did anyone watch it last night?

I really feel for female’s having to deal with that !

But was it just me or were most of the guys who were offending not of British nationality?

That comment is not of anything racial or hatred! It’s an observation "

Yeah this is pretty common though tbh in London on a night out getting hassled , every time I go out on a night in London with friends, we all get harrassed / groped/ touched up. ... especially by some the Turkish guys kicking about bars/venues in our experiences, though there is pricks off all nationalities but I have always had a larger number of Turkish guys flock around us like flies round shit .

I people watch alot when am out as I dont drink alcohol and its pretty grim seeing how sly/underhand many men are at trying to sexually touch women... on a good few occasions I have intervened and dragged a woman off claiming we have been waiting for her to get her away from some bellend ..

IF you want to see another bad metric on this , some of you should see the behaviour of men towards trans women as well at certain trans centric establishments (and I dont mean sex clubs at all just social trans places(

Got to have your eyes peeled always these days .

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By *hePerkyPumpkinTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol

It was sad to watch, but what's saddest is that none of it was surprising, aside maybe the premediated way some guys will stalk a woman through the streets, that really was unsettling.

Regarding the nationality thing, the voices were definitely masked to protect peoples identities, but one of the guys choice of words did suggest English might not be his first language. Doesn't really mean much though, we know guys from all walks of life at every level of society that have sexually assaulted women.

I like to see the problem getting talked about and highlighted more and more in society.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would you say your experience as a TV/TS is worse then the female experience or about the same on a night out ?

"Omg did anyone watch it last night?

I really feel for female’s having to deal with that !

But was it just me or were most of the guys who were offending not of British nationality?

That comment is not of anything racial or hatred! It’s an observation

Got to have your eyes peeled always these days .

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By *ensual-dominant-passionMan
over a year ago

sheffield

"Bad people don't have a specific race, gender or nationality. They do what they do because they are bad people.

I somewhat disagree with this.

Yes bad people are bad regardless.

But certain cultures are brought up to treat women very differently and with no respect for them.

Yes it's bad and wrong.

It seems odd to make a show about harassment in this country and show mainly foreign nationals.

How can anyone brought up to be disrespectful towards women… that’s like being brought up to disrespect your own mother! Propaganda is what it is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bad people don't have a specific race, gender or nationality. They do what they do because they are bad people.

I somewhat disagree with this.

Yes bad people are bad regardless.

But certain cultures are brought up to treat women very differently and with no respect for them.

Yes it's bad and wrong.

It seems odd to make a show about harassment in this country and show mainly foreign nationals.

How can anyone brought up to be disrespectful towards women… that’s like being brought up to disrespect your own mother! Propaganda is what it is.

Can you elaborate your thoughts on propaganda. I’m intrigued.

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By *erces LetiferMan
over a year ago

Somewhere off the edge of the map... 'ere there be monsters

Yeah I watched it last night. All I can say is, with some relief, whilst not surprised by what was highlighted, I also found all the behaviours and attitudes on display utterly alien to me and how I was raised.

I think one of the main take-aways from watching all the footage is that, whilst women will still face unsolicited attention and harrassment from blokes on a night out when in a group, the stakes increase and line towards actual predatory targeting gets crossed when a woman is d*unk and on her own - stick together ladies, always and no matter what.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Watching it now. It’s brought back a lot of bad memories

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bad people don't have a specific race, gender or nationality. They do what they do because they are bad people."

Not really. There's always an underlying problem or reason. Cultures clashing with uk laws is one of them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yeah I watched it last night. All I can say is, with some relief, whilst not surprised by what was highlighted, I also found all the behaviours and attitudes on display utterly alien to me and how I was raised.

Or stop harassing/abusing women boys always and no matter what!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Woman face harassment everyday. Not just on a night out. We are probably unaware how our behaviour makes women uncomfortable, because we have male privilege.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Or stop harassing/abusing women boys always and no matter what!!"

I’m guessing most of us male think that overt street harassment is the only type of harassment woman face.

Can you share some of your experiences where men are subtly making you feel uncomfortable.

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By *amantha_JadeWoman
over a year ago

Newcastle

Or stop harassing/abusing women boys always and no matter what!!

I’m guessing most of us male think that overt street harassment is the only type of harassment woman face.

Can you share some of your experiences where men are subtly making you feel uncomfortable.

Staring when on public transport, sitting near someone on public transport despite there being plenty of alternative seats available, putting their hands on you/ your lower back when passing by, staring at boobs when having conversations, following a close distance nearby when walking behind you at night, continuously trying to make conversation when you’ve gave no engagement or encouragement, taking photos without permission when on a night out, pushing against you from behind when stood at a bar… to name a few

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

"Bad people don't have a specific race, gender or nationality. They do what they do because they are bad people.

I somewhat disagree with this.

Yes bad people are bad regardless.

But certain cultures are brought up to treat women very differently and with no respect for them.

Yes it's bad and wrong.

It seems odd to make a show about harassment in this country and show mainly foreign nationals.

Just like the deluded West really."

Inconspicuous !

They probably wouldn’t get away with in their own country. I’ve worked in a lot of Arab countries & never seen women mistreated, objectified, hassled like the UK.

UK sets the bar very low on respect & responsible behaviour in lots of areas not just treatment of women

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Or stop harassing/abusing women boys always and no matter what!!

I’m guessing most of us male think that overt street harassment is the only type of harassment woman face.

Can you share some of your experiences where men are subtly making you feel uncomfortable.

This.

On 4 separate occasions I've had men "accidentally" Touch my bam when I've been going through ticket barriers. I have called each of them out and each time they said it was an accident. My response is " You shouldn't have been so close that that could have happened" And "How many times does your bum get touched accidentally going through ticket barriers" I asked my husband this and he said he can't recall it ever happening to him so why does it happen to women regularly?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Or stop harassing/abusing women boys always and no matter what!!

I’m guessing most of us male think that overt street harassment is the only type of harassment woman face.

Can you share some of your experiences where men are subtly making you feel uncomfortable.

The documentary wasn't just about overt street harassment it was also about women getting there drinks spiked and ra*ed. She visited a school where teenage girls said they had been sexually harassed when they were 10/11 years old.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Or stop harassing/abusing women boys always and no matter what!!

I’m guessing most of us male think that overt street harassment is the only type of harassment woman face.

Can you share some of your experiences where men are subtly making you feel uncomfortable.

Unfortunately there is also an issue with children assaulting children.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Or stop harassing/abusing women boys always and no matter what!!

I’m guessing most of us male think that overt street harassment is the only type of harassment woman face.

Can you share some of your experiences where men are subtly making you feel uncomfortable.

Unfortunately there is also an issue with children assaulting children. "

That’s a clear sign of poor parenting, domestic issue, depression, poverty, pornography.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Omg did anyone watch it last night?

I really feel for female’s having to deal with that !

But was it just me or were most of the guys who were offending not of British nationality?

That comment is not of anything racial or hatred! It’s an observation "

Think the real issue is its a man regardless of race,I couldn't tell what race the men were

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Omg did anyone watch it last night?

I really feel for female’s having to deal with that !

But was it just me or were most of the guys who were offending not of British nationality?

That comment is not of anything racial or hatred! It’s an observation

Think the real issue is its a man regardless of race,I couldn't tell what race the men were"

We all need to look at ourselves and check our own behaviour and those of our male friends and family members. If we allow misogyny to be said and not pull up our friends, colleagues or family members, then this behaviour will continue.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Or stop harassing/abusing women boys always and no matter what!!

I’m guessing most of us male think that overt street harassment is the only type of harassment woman face.

Can you share some of your experiences where men are subtly making you feel uncomfortable.

Unfortunately there is also an issue with children assaulting children.

That’s a clear sign of poor parenting, domestic issue, depression, poverty, pornography. "

I agree except the poverty part. Statistically economic status Has very little to do with whether somebody is likely to commit a violent or sexual crime.

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By *ttmcdguy OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

"Omg did anyone watch it last night?

I really feel for female’s having to deal with that !

But was it just me or were most of the guys who were offending not of British nationality?

That comment is not of anything racial or hatred! It’s an observation

Think the real issue is its a man regardless of race,I couldn't tell what race the men were"

I managed to pick up on the broken English subtitles even though the voices were distorted it was still not fluent English spoken sentences

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just watched it and to be honest, it's just sickening. The idea that they would pray on vulnerability is deplorable and like she mentioned, she had a crew around her, who knows how many women they've done this to.

Education starts at home and they clearly haven't been raised to not even respect women, but to just treat them as human beings. The worst thing is I wish on these nights out, other men would call out that behaviour when they see it, but the no one likes the idea of overstepping their bounds. I wouldn't do it, purely because I wouldn't know if they actually knew each other but wish there would be an easy way to tell.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I just watched it and to be honest, it's just sickening. The idea that they would pray on vulnerability is deplorable and like she mentioned, she had a crew around her, who knows how many women they've done this to.

You’re clearly racist . "

Erm...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everything said is racist. I’m just calling it as I see it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everything said is racist. I’m just calling it as I see it. "

Are you high right now?

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

sexual harassment starts very young for women. I remember first wearing a bra at school and the boys would come behind you and undo it. I'm no different to any other woman. In fact it was quite popular when I used to go to night clubs to be goosed ( a guy would come up to you from behind and put his hand between your legs) I remember one guy grabbing my boobs in a nightclub and I took my stilletos of and smashed him round the ears with them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everything said is racist. I’m just calling it as I see it.

Are you high right now?"

Glad you asked before I did

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin

Everything said is racist. I’m just calling it as I see it. "

What are you on about? Racist against who exactly? The guy didnt mention any race

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've not seen it but I do think people's ideas have changed an awful lot over the years. When I was a teenager in my first job, the boss would come past me in his wheelchair as I was bent over filing something away in the bottom drawer of the cabinet. He would lightly slap my arse. To me that's just how he was, but I imagine if someone saw that happening today they would call it something very different. People's perceptions are very different.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everything said is racist. I’m just calling it as I see it.

Are you high right now?

Glad you asked before I did

Clearly I’m high on common sense and those who continue to use race as a way to bait clearly indicates ones view on race. Convicted sex offenders is filled with one particular race in our jails And It’s not foreign born.

So that's a big yes then

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin

Everything said is racist. I’m just calling it as I see it.

Are you high right now?

Glad you asked before I did

Youre making zero sense

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Oh and all these guys that harassed me where white british

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Attitudes to women and legal protection of women do vary hugely across cultures, countries and religions. I'm pretty sure Aldershot is safer than Afghanistan.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everything said is racist. I’m just calling it as I see it.

Are you high right now?

Glad you asked before I did

Youre making zero sense "

Whom are the they ? Just the guys in the documentary ? Or guys like us that stand by?

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin

Everything said is racist. I’m just calling it as I see it.

Are you high right now?

Glad you asked before I did

Youre making zero sense

Whom are the they ? Just the guys in the documentary ? Or guys like us that stand by?"

Jesus man what are you on about? Can you please proof read your messages before sending?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everything said is racist. I’m just calling it as I see it.

Are you high right now?

Glad you asked before I did

Youre making zero sense

Whom are the they ? Just the guys in the documentary ? Or guys like us that stand by?

Jesus man what are you on about? Can you please proof read your messages before sending? "

I was wrong. And apologies to the person i misunderstood .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everything said is racist. I’m just calling it as I see it.

Are you high right now?

Glad you asked before I did

Youre making zero sense

Whom are the they ? Just the guys in the documentary ? Or guys like us that stand by?"

All whom "they" applies to. Not selecting any particular race because let's be honest, that would be pretty fucking ironic coming from me

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By *batMan
over a year ago

Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales)

"The men didn't have traditional "English" accents, no, but could be British."

That includes a lot of Scots, Welsh and Irish too!

Gbat

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By *ananaman41Man
over a year ago

Dublin

"The men didn't have traditional "English" accents, no, but could be British.

That includes a lot of Scots, Welsh and Irish too!

Gbat "

You mean northern irish i presume?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've not seen it but I do think people's ideas have changed an awful lot over the years. When I was a teenager in my first job, the boss would come past me in his wheelchair as I was bent over filing something away in the bottom drawer of the cabinet. He would lightly slap my arse. To me that's just how he was, but I imagine if someone saw that happening today they would call it something very different. People's perceptions are very different."

It was something very different, it was common practice in the workplace back then and accepted. Thankfully men can't get away with it that easily now. Attitudes have changed but not nearly enough.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everything said is racist. I’m just calling it as I see it.

Are you high right now?"

My thinking exactly.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I remember the first job I had I worked in the office of a builders merchants. one of the guys used to come upstairs and loiter inches kitchen when I made coffee he always stood in the Goodmayes as I tried to leave and I had to brush past him. I felt very intimidated and only beingb17 I was to scared to say anything

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nothing to do with perception it has always been unacceptable but people didn't feel they could talk out and felt they had to put up with it otherwise they would lose their job.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everything said is racist. I’m just calling it as I see it.

Are you high right now?

Glad you asked before I did

Youre making zero sense

Whom are the they ? Just the guys in the documentary ? Or guys like us that stand by?"

I'm not following!

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By *batMan
over a year ago

Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales)

"You mean northern irish i presume? "

Yes indeed. Happy to set the record straight! Cheers.

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By *ig1gaz1Man
over a year ago

bradford

"Yeah this is pretty common though tbh in London on a night out getting hassled , every time I go out on a night in London with friends, we all get harrassed / groped/ touched up. ... especially by some the Turkish guys kicking about bars/venues in our experiences, though there is pricks off all nationalities but I have always had a larger number of Turkish guys flock around us like flies round shit .

In bradford town center at the night clubs it got really bad with the asians there.

They was gangs of them in cars sat outside the night clubs.

Baying and jearing at the ladies from there cars for them to go with them.

Some got out of there cars tried coaxing arms around the ladies near on escourting them to there cars.

The door staff couldnt do a thing they kept quiet.

The men tried to stick up for there ladies.

They just got out of there cars and battered the men if they stuck up for there ladies.

It also happened often in front of the police and all they did was sat in there patrol car doing nothing.

Unless it was between the whites and the doormen.

I stopped drinking there and went elsewhere for a good night out instead to find a nice lady or take your girlfriend out for a dance and a drink.

Weve lost 10-15 night clubs as you could pub crawl between them.

Only ones still left is near the college area.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It was something very different, it was common practice in the workplace back then and accepted. Thankfully men can't get away with it that easily now. Attitudes have changed but not nearly enough."

It honestly didn't bother me though, no harm was ever done.

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over a year ago

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By *urls and DressesWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere near here

I watched it and it was hard to watch in parts as there were bits I could relate. I was only talking the other day how on nights out some men can feel predatory. One night, in a cocktail bar that’s usually busy on Fridays and Saturdays, I was sober with friends drinking. I stood by the bar watching. My female friends were dancing together on the dance floor and men surrounded them, trying to dance and touch them. My friends moving each other to protect and get away from the most pervy one at the time. They’d push them off, block them etc but persistent. I’ve been followed, I’ve had photos taken without my consent, unwanted touching.

It was frightening and a wake up call to see how far some men would take it watching that program. Thankfully I have groups of friends who don’t ever leave anyone alone, we usually know some men when out who’ll save us where necessary. But it shouldn’t be for men to rescue us, people need to understand the word no.

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By *ull English with teaMan
over a year ago

London

"Attitudes to women and legal protection of women do vary hugely across cultures, countries and religions. I'm pretty sure Aldershot is safer than Afghanistan."

You’ve obviously never been for a night out in Aldershit!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Attitudes to women and legal protection of women do vary hugely across cultures, countries and religions. I'm pretty sure Aldershot is safer than Afghanistan.

You’ve obviously never been for a night out in Aldershit! "

Fair point well made

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By *ornycougaWoman
over a year ago

NORWAY Wherever I lay my hat

It was something very different, it was common practice in the workplace back then and accepted. Thankfully men can't get away with it that easily now. Attitudes have changed but not nearly enough."

But men ARE still getting away with it. It happened to me from when I was in primary school. My daughters were regularly pestered by blokes in the street when they were in their school uniforms. A generation apart and no change. The overt cat calling from geezers hanging off scaffolding may have been stopped but the leering, groping on the Underground, upskirting, pestering etc. of women (and girls) by men every time they leave the house - and in the comfort of their own homes through the bombardment of dick pics to their phones - is as prevalent as ever. And we are still blamed for it.

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By *ornyone30Man
over a year ago

ABERDEEN

I found it disturbing, and as the father of a young girl it's a worry. I have no idea what the answer is but boys and men of all ages should be involved in tackling the issue.

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By *etcplCouple
over a year ago

Gapping Fanny

"I found it disturbing, and as the father of a young girl it's a worry. I have no idea what the answer is but boys and men of all ages should be involved in tackling the issue. "

Bromide in peoples tea!

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over a year ago

"I found it disturbing, and as the father of a young girl it's a worry. I have no idea what the answer is but boys and men of all ages should be involved in tackling the issue.

Bromide in peoples tea!

Women are dosed up on libido killing hormonal contraception. Get the men on it too!

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By *arkandlovelyWoman
over a year ago

South Derbyshire

It was something very different, it was common practice in the workplace back then and accepted. Thankfully men can't get away with it that easily now. Attitudes have changed but not nearly enough.

Worryingly, statistics indicate it's actually getting worse. Sexual harassment and violence is RIFE in schools. It's heartbreaking that another generation of women are going to go through this.

Misogyny and sexual violence has always been a problem, but young boys having instant access to hardcore porn cannot be in any way healthy and must be contributing to the increase.

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over a year ago

It was something very different, it was common practice in the workplace back then and accepted. Thankfully men can't get away with it that easily now. Attitudes have changed but not nearly enough.

Worryingly, statistics indicate it's actually getting worse. Sexual harassment and violence is RIFE in schools. It's heartbreaking that another generation of women are going to go through this.

Misogyny and sexual violence has always been a problem, but young boys having instant access to hardcore porn cannot be in any way healthy and must be contributing to the increase."

I definitely think porn plays a huge part in how young men think about sex and women.

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By *lackshadow7Man
over a year ago

Toronto

"Omg did anyone watch it last night?

I really feel for female’s having to deal with that !

But was it just me or were most of the guys who were offending not of British nationality?

That comment is not of anything racial or hatred! It’s an observation

Think the real issue is its a man regardless of race,I couldn't tell what race the men were

I managed to pick up on the broken English subtitles even though the voices were distorted it was still not fluent English spoken sentences "

Lots of English born people can barely put a coherent sentence together anyway, so i wouldn’t use mastery of the language as any sort of reliable gauge. Hell just read the forums for all of 5 mins.

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By *ornycougaWoman
over a year ago

NORWAY Wherever I lay my hat

It was something very different, it was common practice in the workplace back then and accepted. Thankfully men can't get away with it that easily now. Attitudes have changed but not nearly enough.

Worryingly, statistics indicate it's actually getting worse. Sexual harassment and violence is RIFE in schools. It's heartbreaking that another generation of women are going to go through this.

Misogyny and sexual violence has always been a problem, but young boys having instant access to hardcore porn cannot be in any way healthy and must be contributing to the increase.

I definitely think porn plays a huge part in how young men think about sex and women. "

It certainly does. I watch porn regularly and it helps get me off, particularly when flying solo but I am not a 13 year old boy and I can clearly differentiate between wanking material and real life. Too many men clearly can't - in part as a result from the porn they consume from a young age.

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over a year ago

I haven’t watched the programme but a very high percentage of women will have been sexually assaulted at some point. It’s happened to me first hand in school , the majority of places I’ve worked and on nights out. Some people are too quick to laugh things off and say things like “that’s just what he’s like”. My very first job leaving school I worked with a man who was about 30 years older than me. He would sit in front of me when it was just us and try to throw sweets down my top then try and grab them back out with his hand. When I brought it up to my boss it was laughed off as “just a joke”.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That was supposed to say harassed

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By *iman2100Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

The question is not "Is it happening?", because it is, and it is absolutely wrong at this time because it causes distress. The question is "Why is it happening at all?"

It is very easy to blame and shame men in general and demand they stop doing it. Misandry is more commonplace now than ever before. However, what leads them to do something that is generally identified as socially unacceptable?

The forums are full of women and couples saying they are totally fed up with dick pics, yet many men still have them as their avatar? Why? It is inhibiting their ability to get a meet yet they still want to wave their soggy 5 inches in front of the Fab members.

I would suggest as a start two reasons.

1. The attitude of their fathers to their mothers when they grew up led them to think less of women. Their mothers did not seek to correct that perception.

2. The men that exist today are the latest batch of men after thousands of years of development who pushed the envelope to breed. Like animals in the wild they feel the need to push themselves onto females. Those that did not do it in the past died out because their genes were lost from the gene pool. It is at the core of their being.

We are now trying as a society to say it is wrong. So what other reasons are there? What can be done to help stop it?

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By *ornycougaWoman
over a year ago

NORWAY Wherever I lay my hat

"The question is not "Is it happening?", because it is, and it is absolutely wrong at this time because it causes distress. The question is "Why is it happening at all?"

I would suggest as a start two reasons.

1. The attitude of their fathers to their mothers when they grew up led them to think less of women. Their mothers did not seek to correct that perception.

We are now trying as a society to say it is wrong. So what other reasons are there? What can be done to help stop it? "

This is still making excuses to explain wholly inappropriate behaviour by men towards women

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over a year ago

"The question is not "Is it happening?", because it is, and it is absolutely wrong at this time because it causes distress. The question is "Why is it happening at all?"

I would suggest as a start two reasons.

1. The attitude of their fathers to their mothers when they grew up led them to think less of women. Their mothers did not seek to correct that perception.

We are now trying as a society to say it is wrong. So what other reasons are there? What can be done to help stop it? "

I don't send unsolicited dick pics, I've learned better in the last 15 years how to respect other people's boundaries. And my dad was a dick.

Am I just more evolved or what is the explanation for my lack of sexual harassment?

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By *iman2100Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

"The question is not "Is it happening?", because it is, and it is absolutely wrong at this time because it causes distress. The question is "Why is it happening at all?"

I would suggest as a start two reasons.

1. The attitude of their fathers to their mothers when they grew up led them to think less of women. Their mothers did not seek to correct that perception.

We are now trying as a society to say it is wrong. So what other reasons are there? What can be done to help stop it?

This is still making excuses to explain wholly inappropriate behaviour by men towards women

No it is not. It is asking the relevant questions of why? and How do we stop it?

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By *iman2100Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

"The question is not "Is it happening?", because it is, and it is absolutely wrong at this time because it causes distress. The question is "Why is it happening at all?"

I would suggest as a start two reasons.

1. The attitude of their fathers to their mothers when they grew up led them to think less of women. Their mothers did not seek to correct that perception.

We are now trying as a society to say it is wrong. So what other reasons are there? What can be done to help stop it?

I don't send unsolicited dick pics, I've learned better in the last 15 years how to respect other people's boundaries. And my dad was a dick.

Am I just more evolved or what is the explanation for my lack of sexual harassment?"

I am glad to hear that. Why are you not a "dick" like your father?

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