FabSwingers.com forum: The Class System

By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Are you upper, lower or middle class and does it matter to you?

If you were a middle class couple would you meet a lower class couple. ?

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
over a year ago

Carlisle usually

I mean, I prefer working class as a term rather than lower.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I act upper class

I dress middle class

And I like to get down and dirty in the low class

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Middle will meet anyone.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

Lowest of the low here! X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lower class

Common as Muck

And proud of it

We are who we are x

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"Are you upper, lower or middle class and does it matter to you?

If you were a middle class couple would you meet a lower class couple. ?"

I think classes do still exist but they are much more nuanced than upper middle and lower. They seem to be more behavioural and value classes or groupings than defined by wealth and family history. We seem to be increasingly quite happy to be divided by many attributes.

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
over a year ago

Reading

Middle but absolutely not classist.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

It's interesting that in these fora lower class (whatever that means to people) seems to be aspirational.

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By *stbury DavenportMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

I'd suggest I'm class-confused. For various tedious and complicated reasons, I've switched more than once. Unfortunately, this means I no longer fit in anywhere – all classes now see me as an interloper. Can't win.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

But do the different classes mix in reality ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im actually a Prince.

I like to mingle though, in all subsets of society. (In disguise.)

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"But do the different classes mix in reality ?"

Only when they have to.

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By *rettyflamingoWoman
over a year ago

Where the flamboyance of flamingos live

I went out with a guy from Newcastle who would continually tell me I was upper class, the rows we had over it. My parents were working class and worked hard for the little money they had. I would say I was working class.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lower class that became middle-ish class.

I speak well and don't live badly but and not living it up in the city drinking champagne on worknights

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i think classes do mix

lady chatterly and her gardener for example..

i think its a bit judgemental to follow and confine yourself to a class... the most interesting people are usually at the far extremeties of it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Below lower class

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m upper class and I talk to you lot on here so, that’s my charity for the year

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m not really sure what the distinction between the classes is these days

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I thought this was about John Cleece, Ronnie Barker & Ronnie Corbert.

'I know my place'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’m not really sure what the distinction between the classes is these days"

Private school? Upper class

Got new consoles/expensive new toys within a year of them coming out? Middle class

Neither of the above? Working class

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’m not really sure what the distinction between the classes is these days

Private school? Upper class

Got new consoles/expensive new toys within a year of them coming out? Middle class

Neither of the above? Working class "

If you don't know the distinction?

Upper class..

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By *rAitchMan
over a year ago

Diagonally Parked in a Parallel Universe

People think I'm upper-middle due to where I live - I rent part of a country manor house - but in reality I'm lower than a slug's testicles

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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago

Not all that North of North London

I'm working class. I'm proud to be working class and recognise I'm at the upper end of working class.

I don't judge people by their class though, really not a factor

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’m not really sure what the distinction between the classes is these days

Private school? Upper class

Got new consoles/expensive new toys within a year of them coming out? Middle class

Neither of the above? Working class

If you don't know the distinction?

Upper class.."

I think I’m middle then, although I drive a shit car because I hate the whole Keeping up with the Jones’s mentality and buying cars that people can’t afford seems to be the hallmark of that these days

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By *htcMan
over a year ago

I act low class, I dress low class, I would be very low poor class to people but I would do come under towards high class.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I haven't got a Danny La Rue

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

No idea and no it doesn’t matter to me. Surely the class thing is sooooo outdated now. Never even crosses my mind and I honestly couldn’t care a jot.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is it okay to post YouTube links here ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think people have a terrible habit of conflating money with class.

Are classes in this sense not just about who owns the means of production? Eg you own the factory - upper, run the factory - middle, work in the factory - lower.

It's all a bit redundant now with so many people having university educations and many jobs you wear a suit to paying way less than tradesmen or manual workers are getting!

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By *ovingSussexLifeMan
over a year ago

West Sussex

No idea what defines class any more.

I always thought of myself as working class as that's where my roots are. Brought up on a council estate in South London. Mum worked in a pub, step dad a builder.

I got a good education, have a well paid white collar 9-5 job, own my own home, and have travelled and enjoy a lifestyle my forebears would never have enjoyed.

If I'd been born in to my current circumstances, I would probably be classed as middle class.

All I now is I was brought up to treat everyone with respect and treat everyone the same, so class becomes irrelevant

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

First class

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People who are real upper class don't keep up with the Joneses.

They drive an old Volvo, Saab or Land Rover. Wear clothes like jeans and a shirt / tie combo that doesn't look right.

People who try too hard are more likely middle class.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Many people will base this on money, property and material things.. but I think it can also come down to the class of an individual.

Regardless of where they're from or what they have achieved in life.

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By *mbatman2021Man
over a year ago

Southampton

I don’t even know what the class system is.

Who decides who’s in what class? What is it based on?

I was in most of the lower classes in school if that helps. Come to think of it that probably explains why i don’t know what the class system is

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By *rauntonbananaMan
over a year ago

Braunton

So, if someone from a working class background who went to a comprehensive and went to work the day they left school, but now lives in a million pound house, drives a 70k car and six figures in the bank, still be regarded as working class…

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A hilarious and informative book about class is ' watching the english' l think the author is kate fox ,it covers all aspects of the class system in a funny and extensive way ,the pub section is brill.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So, if someone from a working class background who went to a comprehensive and went to work the day they left school, but now lives in a million pound house, drives a 70k car and six figures in the bank, still be regarded as working class…"

yes

in the same way if they made money farting in jam jars and selling on adult sites wont make you a lord or a lady regard less of how much money you made...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yes

in the same way if they made money farting in jam jars and selling on adult sites wont make you a lord or a lady regard less of how much money you made...

So you mean you have to be born a lord or lady ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yes

in the same way if they made money farting in jam jars and selling on adult sites wont make you a lord or a lady regard less of how much money you made...

So you mean you have to be born a lord or lady ?"

or get a peerage... my poimt is its not just money is it?

its normally old money..

or the right friends

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No idea and no it doesn’t matter to me. Surely the class thing is sooooo outdated now. Never even crosses my mind and I honestly couldn’t care a jot. "

If only

I actually think class differences (financial and cultural) are still very distinct in terms of employment, relationships and life chances. Working class boys for example by far worst education outcomes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yes

in the same way if they made money farting in jam jars and selling on adult sites wont make you a lord or a lady regard less of how much money you made...

So you mean you have to be born a lord or lady ?

or get a peerage... my poimt is its not just money is it?

its normally old money..

or the right friends"

I get it but I don't get it

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By *ilverjagMan
over a year ago

swansea

I've always maintained that swinging is the grand leveler of all human greatness. If you are the chairman of an international corporation and can't get it up you are as poor as a church mouse, but if you happen to empty the bins for a living but also happen to be well blessed, a heavy cummer, and a fast repeater, then you are king of the castle!

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By *mber and FireCouple
over a year ago

Carmarthenshire

I think these are the sorts of questions that perpetuate divides. Class is something I refuse to acknowledge. Respect should be something rooted in equality, and classist systems are most definitely not equal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't give a shit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Upper. Yes.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"I’m not really sure what the distinction between the classes is these days

Private school? Upper class

Got new consoles/expensive new toys within a year of them coming out? Middle class

Neither of the above? Working class "

Funny enough... Lots of new money putting their kids through private school system, doing the best for their kids any way they can.

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By *errynjuneCouple
over a year ago

Barnsley

Working class and proud to be so.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are you upper, lower or middle class and does it matter to you?

If you were a middle class couple would you meet a lower class couple. ?"

If it's right ..it's right...class doesn't come into it .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Classes is to do with the lifestyle YOU had growing up.

So if your parents were wealthy, you went to holidays around the world as a child, went to private school etc - you are upper class.

People get so prudish about what makes it what it is but that is ultimately it. If you grew up in a council house eating beans on toast regularly, you are working class.

You can change that in your own careers but ultimately it's to do with your ORIGIN STORY

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By *humper.Man
over a year ago

northumberland/scotland

Common as shite and wouldn't have it any other way. Not that I give "class" a second thought.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Classes is to do with the lifestyle YOU had growing up.

So if your parents were wealthy, you went to holidays around the world as a child, went to private school etc - you are upper class.

People get so prudish about what makes it what it is but that is ultimately it. If you grew up in a council house eating beans on toast regularly, you are working class.

You can change that in your own careers but ultimately it's to do with your ORIGIN STORY "

So how do you define lower class ?

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By *lofeldMan
over a year ago

Redhill

Not that I care about these things, but in these isles it's always been a thing, so...

Grew up working class, job is middle class, mates largely working class.

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By *inballs99Man
over a year ago

Blackheath

How about if you merge the two?

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By *aturefun63Man
over a year ago

Belper

Working class but would meet any class

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

Lower class?

We prefer "plebs," but we're just thankful for the mention, good sir.

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field

Just to clarify, is Tom not a fan of any of these classes?

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By *ichard574Man
over a year ago

West of Dfs

The rich arrived in pairs

And also in Rolls Royces

They talked of their affairs

In loud and strident voices.

The poor arrived in Fords

Whose features they resembled

And laughed to see so many lords

And ladies all assembled.

The people in between

Looked underdone and harassed

And out of place and mean

And horribly embarrassed.

Hilaire Belloc "The Garden Party"

Doesn't strictly answer the question, but is still extremely perceptive. And you don't have to edit (delete rich, insert fab) it much before it's true of many swingers' clubs.

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

"I think these are the sorts of questions that perpetuate divides. Class is something I refuse to acknowledge. Respect should be something rooted in equality, and classist systems are most definitely not equal."

You're right, they're not equal. That's why we should expose and resist them every chance we get.

My theory is that it is only the middle class who deny the class system still exists. The upper class refuse to let it go. And the working class sure as shit know it's atill around.

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By *alking HeadMan
over a year ago

Bolton

I refuse to put myself into the class system. Can we have a "none of the above" option?

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By *dam1971Man
over a year ago

Bedford

Judging by my bank balance I’m a commoner, but that’s far from the most important thing.

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By *ames-77Man
over a year ago

milton keynes

"Are you upper, lower or middle class and does it matter to you?

If you were a middle class couple would you meet a lower class couple. ?"

And in your opinion how would you describe each of these classes ?

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By *mbatman2021Man
over a year ago

Southampton

What are the classes. How many are there?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm in a class of my own

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By *ames-77Man
over a year ago

milton keynes

"I'm in a class of my own

That's the attitude I like to hear

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

I don’t like uk obsession with class. It fuels a belief of pre destination and socialism as the answer , that what you are born into limits you for life and you are trapped. That might be true in parts of India, Asia but not the UK. That’s why so many immigrants come to the UK & here in Dubai with nothing and 2-3 generations later are multi-millionaires, because there is no class barriers to success.

But people believe it, mostly working class people.

I think the classes don’t mix because of culture not class. I love people and will get on with anyone regardless of background; wealth etc but if they have been brought up regularly going to opera and ballet instead of gigs and festivals we want have much in common.

Also if they play lottery, fruit machines or online gambling ,,watch a lot of porn , drink alcohol every night or go to the chippy often, we won’t have much in common.

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By *heGateKeeperMan
over a year ago

Stratford

Working class

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By *ellinever70Woman
over a year ago

Ayrshire

I have middle class aspirations and I won't apologise for that

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By *asual777Man
over a year ago

i travel all over

One of the main reasons I left the U.K. borderline caste system rather then class system . Massive glass ceilings everywhere . Jobs for the jolly good chaps. Prime minister after prime minister who went to Eton then Oxford. Behaving poorly but getting voted in . A royal family with a terrible record of protecting awful behaviour but would get 80 per cent approval tomorrow if there was a referendum . A National Stockholm syndrome of sorts …

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By *uddy laneMan
over a year ago

dudley

If you have to work for your money supply by definition you are working class.

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By *im75Her77Couple
over a year ago

937 S.W.

Class?

Didn't we all graduate high school.

Boot camp?

College?

Trade school?

I do not hear any bells ringing anymore.

Nobody telling me I hafta study for a pop quiz t'morrow.

The way I see shit, if this website ever went public and global, we'd ALL be ZERO class. That'd be my guess.

Perhaps that is why WE are ALL here?

I dunno.

T.G.I.F. you sexy FABbers!

-M

Ohio

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If their class is very different to mine then I won't meet them. We're not compatible.

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By *stbury DavenportMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

Interesting to see so many people denying class is still a thing.

I wonder if they feel the same way about racism, sexism, and all the other ingrained structural inequalities.

Refusing to accept something is an issue, or pretending it magically doesn't affect you, doesn't make it go away.

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By *it4uMan
over a year ago

Brighton / Eastbourne / SW France

I’m in a class of my own

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By *2000ManMan
over a year ago

Worthing

As long as I have class, then not concerned about which one.

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