FabSwingers.com forum: World Cup Domestic Violence

By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

A domestic violence charity is wanting of the increased risk of incidents during the World Cup. What's going on here guys?

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

Why would a charity want the increase of violent incidents ?

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By *ackFromTheDead2Man
over a year ago

London/Surrey

Guys get d*unk England disappoint & men take it out on their wives. Story as old as time

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By *ackFromTheDead2Man
over a year ago

London/Surrey

"Why would a charity want the increase of violent incidents ?"

Think he meant warn but was still a lil bit amusing mistake

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek

Alcohol and watching sport tend to go hand in hand.

Man boys getting angry d*unk when their team lose and putting women in their place with a right hander coz she said "it's just a game"

She just doesn't understand.

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By *yron69Man
over a year ago

Fareham

Teach more women to give a penalty kick where it hurts.

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By *ackFromTheDead2Man
over a year ago

London/Surrey

Women winning their tournament had to hurt as well cos the men couldn't do their part

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek

"Teach more women to give a penalty kick where it hurts.

Many have tried.

Now all they get is flowers laid once a year.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Typo alert...

Warning not wanting

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By *ris GrayMan
over a year ago

Dorchester

"A domestic violence charity is wanting of the increased risk of incidents during the World Cup. What's going on here guys?"
warning

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By *yron69Man
over a year ago

Fareham

"Teach more women to give a penalty kick where it hurts.

Many have tried.

Now all they get is flowers laid once a year."

Hyperbole. What's your answer then?

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek

"Teach more women to give a penalty kick where it hurts.

Many have tried.

Now all they get is flowers laid once a year.

Hyperbole. What's your answer then?"

As a survivor of domestic violence (by seconds), my answer would be to teach whoever is on the receiving end of the violence to call the police.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Teach more women to give a penalty kick where it hurts.

Many have tried.

Now all they get is flowers laid once a year.

Hyperbole. What's your answer then?"

Hyperbole? What do you mean?

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

Flagrante

"Teach more women to give a penalty kick where it hurts.

Many have tried.

Now all they get is flowers laid once a year.

Hyperbole. What's your answer then?

As a survivor of domestic violence (by seconds), my answer would be to teach whoever is on the receiving end of the violence to call the police. "

...plus teach the perpetrators that it's not ok...at as an early an age as possible.

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek

"Teach more women to give a penalty kick where it hurts.

Many have tried.

Now all they get is flowers laid once a year.

Hyperbole. What's your answer then?

Hyperbole? What do you mean?"

I think he means there is no increased risk of escalation of the violence or situation when women fight back and that my statement was an exaggeration.

That the safest thing to do is a nut kick and put said man in his place, despite him being physically stronger and his decision making impaired by the alcohol consumption.

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek

"Teach more women to give a penalty kick where it hurts.

Many have tried.

Now all they get is flowers laid once a year.

Hyperbole. What's your answer then?

As a survivor of domestic violence (by seconds), my answer would be to teach whoever is on the receiving end of the violence to call the police.

...plus teach the perpetrators that it's not ok...at as an early an age as possible. "

Absolutely.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Guys get d*unk England disappoint & men take it out on their wives. Story as old as time"

I’m afraid so

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Teach more women to give a penalty kick where it hurts.

Many have tried.

Now all they get is flowers laid once a year.

Hyperbole. What's your answer then?"

In my town the council are running the white ribbon initiative and encouraging everyone especially men to make the pledge; 'to never excuse, use or remain silent about Mens Violence towards Women'

I'm not saying it's the answer but it's a good start.

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By *hromosexualsCouple
over a year ago

Near Abercynon

I wonder if there are the same warnings around the Rugby World Cup and, if not, is that because more men watch football... or football fans are pricks, but Rugby fans are fine upstanding gentlemen

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By *ryandseeMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire

"Why would a charity want the increase of violent incidents ?"

It's quantity over quality with these threads. Mistakes can happen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Teach more women to give a penalty kick where it hurts.

Many have tried.

Now all they get is flowers laid once a year.

Hyperbole. What's your answer then?

Hyperbole? What do you mean?

I think he means there is no increased risk of escalation of the violence or situation when women fight back and that my statement was an exaggeration.

That the safest thing to do is a nut kick and put said man in his place, despite him being physically stronger and his decision making impaired by the alcohol consumption.

What a day to be alive. The domestic violence issue has been resolved. Kick to the nuts and the abusive man will apologise and be a loving caring partner.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I wonder if there are the same warnings around the Rugby World Cup and, if not, is that because more men watch football... or football fans are pricks, but Rugby fans are fine upstanding gentlemen

Well......

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire

"Teach more women to give a penalty kick where it hurts.

Many have tried.

Now all they get is flowers laid once a year.

Hyperbole. What's your answer then?

Hyperbole? What do you mean?

I think he means there is no increased risk of escalation of the violence or situation when women fight back and that my statement was an exaggeration.

That the safest thing to do is a nut kick and put said man in his place, despite him being physically stronger and his decision making impaired by the alcohol consumption.

What a day to be alive. The domestic violence issue has been resolved. Kick to the nuts and the abusive man will apologise and be a loving caring partner.

He’ll immediately see her in a new way, respect her and they both lived happily ever after.

(Yes it’s a fairytale)

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By *iscean_dreamMan
over a year ago

Llanelli

"I wonder if there are the same warnings around the Rugby World Cup and, if not, is that because more men watch football... or football fans are pricks, but Rugby fans are fine upstanding gentlemen

I'm pretty sure there's pricks that follow rugby as well and can't control themselves.

Goes without saying that some people should definitely not touch alcohol at all

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple
over a year ago

Leeds

As a child of a domestic abuse family I can say it was both rugby and football drinking that caused many many black eyes and a heck of a lot of violence.

I don't understand it in the slightest, if you can't control yourself just stop watching, honestly domestic violence around a sport is one of the most pathetic reasons to beat someone.

Mrs

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By *he FAB Social - MCRCouple (FF)
over a year ago

manchester

"I wonder if there are the same warnings around the Rugby World Cup and, if not, is that because more men watch football... or football fans are pricks, but Rugby fans are fine upstanding gentlemen

I'm pretty sure there's pricks that follow rugby as well and can't control themselves.

Goes without saying that some people should definitely not touch alcohol at all"

But they don’t see it as an issue… it’s the Boys Club mentality.

Although many find it outdated, I’m trying to raise my son to have manners, respect women and to think before he acts. He’s 11 and it’s tough because he sees men disrespecting women on a daily basis… even between kids in his classroom not to mention his female teachers getting abuse from the other kids

Pixie

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well with a bit of luck, maybe some of these abusive arseholes will be on remand over Christmas and New Year and avoid the traditional annual family beatings.

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By *iscean_dreamMan
over a year ago

Llanelli

"I wonder if there are the same warnings around the Rugby World Cup and, if not, is that because more men watch football... or football fans are pricks, but Rugby fans are fine upstanding gentlemen

I'm pretty sure there's pricks that follow rugby as well and can't control themselves.

Goes without saying that some people should definitely not touch alcohol at all

But they don’t see it as an issue… it’s the Boys Club mentality.

Pixie "

Yes that's the thing, boys can't handle a drink and lose control and I don't believe they don't understand that unless they're really stupid.

It's important to teach him how to act properly and never too early

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I wonder if there are the same warnings around the Rugby World Cup and, if not, is that because more men watch football... or football fans are pricks, but Rugby fans are fine upstanding gentlemen

I'm pretty sure there's pricks that follow rugby as well and can't control themselves.

Goes without saying that some people should definitely not touch alcohol at all

But they don’t see it as an issue… it’s the Boys Club mentality.

Pixie

Yes that's the thing, boys can't handle a drink and lose control and I don't believe they don't understand that unless they're really stupid.

It's important to teach him how to act properly and never too early "
we definitely need to more education and awareness.

And imo, we need to acknowledge what a shitty drug alcohol is and take it seriously. I kinda squirm at the phrase handle your drink. In my mind, the subtext here is men can drink big. (That may not be how it was meant here). We need to get to a place where it is stigmatised to be not know your limits and to drink past them. A "real man" stops at 3 if it's affecting him. If you drink 20 and your limit is 18, you should be classed as a loser.

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By *iscean_dreamMan
over a year ago

Llanelli

"I wonder if there are the same warnings around the Rugby World Cup and, if not, is that because more men watch football... or football fans are pricks, but Rugby fans are fine upstanding gentlemen

I'm pretty sure there's pricks that follow rugby as well and can't control themselves.

Goes without saying that some people should definitely not touch alcohol at all

But they don’t see it as an issue… it’s the Boys Club mentality.

Pixie

Yes that's the thing, boys can't handle a drink and lose control and I don't believe they don't understand that unless they're really stupid.

It's important to teach him how to act properly and never too early we definitely need to more education and awareness.

I'm not saying a real man drinks big, just that he can drink without being violent towards people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I wonder if there are the same warnings around the Rugby World Cup and, if not, is that because more men watch football... or football fans are pricks, but Rugby fans are fine upstanding gentlemen

I'm pretty sure there's pricks that follow rugby as well and can't control themselves.

Goes without saying that some people should definitely not touch alcohol at all

But they don’t see it as an issue… it’s the Boys Club mentality.

Pixie

Yes that's the thing, boys can't handle a drink and lose control and I don't believe they don't understand that unless they're really stupid.

It's important to teach him how to act properly and never too early we definitely need to more education and awareness.

Agreed. Alcohol is one of the most dangerous substances out there because of it's social acceptance...And being d*unk is never a cool look from anyone. I just hope that being in a country which forbids alcohol then people might have to control themselves...Or the lack of alcohol could exacerbate the behaviours whichever way it will highlight how pathetic these people can be

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By *inCity BluesMan
over a year ago

London

"Hyperbole. What's your answer then?"

Below is a list of the 81 women that were killed by men in the seven months following the murder of Sarah Everard on March 3 2021.

1. Geetika Goyal,

29, died 4 March

2. Imogen Bohajczuk,

29, died 4 March

3. Wenjing Xu,

16, died 5 March

4. Karen McClean,

50, died 19 March

5. Stacey Knell,

30, died 19 March

6. Smita Mistry,

32, died 23 March

7. Sammy Mills,

31, died 23 March

8. Patricia Audsley,

66, died 25 March

9. Phyllis Nelson,

76, died 26 March

10. Klaudia Soltys,

30, died 27 March

11. Simone Ambler,

49, died 29 March

12. Emma McArthur,

49, died 1 April

13. Sherrie Milnes,

51, died 1 April

14. Constanta Bunea,

50, died 4 April

15. Jacqueline Grant,

54, died 6 April

16. Loretta Herman,

85, died 9 April

17. Egle Vengaliene,

34, died 9 April

18. Sally Metcalf,

68, died 10 April

19. Sarah Keith,

26, died 13 April

20. Peggy Wright,

83, died 18 April

21. Charmaine O’Donnell,

25, died 23 April

22. Michelle Cooper,

40, died 23 April

23. Kerry Bradford,

57, died 25 April

24. Julia James,

53, died 27 April

25. Beth Aspey,

34, died 30 April

26. Susan Booth,

62, died 2 May

27. Mayra Zulfiqar,

26, died 3 May

28. Maria Rawlings,

45, died 4 May

29. Chenise Gregory,

29, died 4 May

30. Agnes Akom,

20, went missing 9 May

31. Wendy Cole,

70, died 10 May

32. Caroline Crouch,

20, died 11 May

33. Svetlana Mihalachi,

53, died 12 May

34. Nicola Kirk,

45, died 12 May

35. Unnamed woman,

32, died 13 May

36. Agita Geslere,

61, died 25 May

37. Lauren Wilson,

34, died 26 May

38. Peninah Kabeba,

42, died 27 May

39. Jill Hickery,

80s, died 29 May

40. Bethany Vincent,

26, died 31 May

41. Esther Brown,

67, died 1 June

42. Michaela Hall,

49, died 1 June

43. Mildred Whitmore,

84, died 1 June

44. Stacey Clay,

39, died 2 June

45. Linda Hood,

68, died 11 June

46. Marlene Coleman,

53, died 16 June

47. Sophie Cartlidge,

39, died 18 June

48. Gracie Spinks,

23, died 18 June

49. Michelle Hibbert,

29, died 19 June

50. Kim Dearden,

63, died 20 June

51. Sally Poynton,

44, died 22 June

52. Catherine Wardleworth,

70s, died 23 June

53. Sukhjit Badial,

73, died 29 June

54. Elsie Pinder,

66, died 3 July

55. Catherine Stewart,

54, died 4 July

56. Ishrat Ahmed,

52, died 4 July

57. Tamara Padi,

43, died 7 July

58. Katie Brankin,

37, died 12 July

59. Sandra Hughes,

63, died 13 July

60. Beatrice Stoica,

36, died 23 July

61. Pat Holland,

83, died 24 July

62. Yordanos Brhane,

19, died 31 July

63. Amanda Selby,

15, died 31 July

64. Louise Kam,

71, found dead 1 August

65. Malgorzata Lechanska,

37, died 1 August

66. Megan Newborough,

23, found dead 8 August

67. Diana Nichols,

57, died 9 August

68. Maxine Davison,

51, died 12 August

69. Kate Shepherd,

66, died 12 August

70. Bella Nicandro,

76, died 14 August

71. Eileen Barrott,

50, died 15 August

72. Sharon Pickles,

45, died 19 August

73. Helen Anderson,

41, died 23 August

74. Jade Ward,

27, died 26 August

75. Maddie Durdant-Hollamby,

22, died 27 August

76. Fawziyah Javed,

31, died 2 September

77. Ingrid Matthew,

54, died 11 September

78. Sabina Nessa,

28, 17 September

79. Unnamed woman,

died 17 September

80. Terri Harris,

35, died 19 September

81. Sukhjeet Uppal,

40, died 19 September

Hyperbole, apparently.

What is the answer?

The answer is for inadequate wankers to stop beating women.

The answer is to teach boys in school that beating women is wrong, always.

The answer is to get rid of the men who beat women, either by jailing them for life or putting them to sleep. Because sooner or later, the arsehole who argues that it was just "one little slap" will inevitably go on to seriously hurt, maim or kill a woman.

Case in point, Jordan McSweeney, who sexually assaulted and then kicked and stamped to death 5ft 1inch Zara Aleena as she walked home from a night out.

McSweeney had 28 convictions for 69 offences, and had been out of prison for nine days before murdering Zara. The judge described him as a "substantial risk to the public, especially lone women".

Why was this piece of shit even allowed out to walk our streets? What the fuck did the authorities think he was going to do? Volunteer in a home for blind orphans?

It's OK though. They've got him now. And all it took to stop him was the life of a tiny young woman happily walking home from a night out with friends.

I'm sure that such a thing won't ever happen again.

Lessons will have been learned.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Alcohol mixed with cowardly men, for the most part equals abuse. It’s a problem that has, is and sadly will continue.

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By *uv2kissMan
over a year ago

fenland

My father beat me routinely although I don't think he beat my mum.

Because of that I abhor violence I know excess alcohol is a cause but I don't drink either..

I support my football team and my wife ( yes I'm married as my profile makes very clear ) has no idea from my behaviour whether we have won or lost.

I don't bury my head in the sand and I'm very aware it goes on, all we can do is teach our children and grandchildren mutual respect.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Beer

Testosterone

Stupidity

Football

Twats

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Beer

Testosterone

Stupidity

Football

Twats "

Not all, some of us like a beer and will happily share one with opposing fans and I have often done so.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I wonder if there are the same warnings around the Rugby World Cup and, if not, is that because more men watch football... or football fans are pricks, but Rugby fans are fine upstanding gentlemen

I'm pretty sure there's pricks that follow rugby as well and can't control themselves.

Goes without saying that some people should definitely not touch alcohol at all

But they don’t see it as an issue… it’s the Boys Club mentality.

Pixie

Yes that's the thing, boys can't handle a drink and lose control and I don't believe they don't understand that unless they're really stupid.

It's important to teach him how to act properly and never too early we definitely need to more education and awareness.

I'm not saying a real man drinks big, just that he can drink without being violent towards people "
agreed. I totally accept it's my reading of the phrase, from my conditioning, and not your intention. It's part of the reason I've grown to dislike the phrase. It's not got the clarity to embarrass thsoe who do drink past their limits.

to all those who have experienced DV either directly or indirectly. And I love you all for sharing. The bravery is amazing.

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple
over a year ago

Leeds

Sad little bullies, who haven’t got the bollocks to pick an actual fight, fuse that with crack water ( alcohol) and it’s a recipe for disaster.

The mr

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By *arkandlovelyWoman
over a year ago

South Derbyshire

"Teach more women to give a penalty kick where it hurts.

Many have tried.

Now all they get is flowers laid once a year.

Hyperbole. What's your answer then?

As a survivor of domestic violence (by seconds), my answer would be to teach whoever is on the receiving end of the violence to call the police. "

As soon as I started reading your comments on this thread, I knew you were speaking from experience. Sad that this is still seen as a joke by so many.

I'm glad you got out sis x

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Was there any correlation in the Woman's football when they won the euros ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Teach more women to give a penalty kick where it hurts.

Many have tried.

Now all they get is flowers laid once a year.

Hyperbole. What's your answer then?

Hyperbole? What do you mean?

I think he means there is no increased risk of escalation of the violence or situation when women fight back and that my statement was an exaggeration.

That the safest thing to do is a nut kick and put said man in his place, despite him being physically stronger and his decision making impaired by the alcohol consumption.

What a day to be alive. The domestic violence issue has been resolved. Kick to the nuts and the abusive man will apologise and be a loving caring partner.

He’ll immediately see her in a new way, respect her and they both lived happily ever after.

(Yes it’s a fairytale) "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I wonder if there are the same warnings around the Rugby World Cup and, if not, is that because more men watch football... or football fans are pricks, but Rugby fans are fine upstanding gentlemen

I'm pretty sure there's pricks that follow rugby as well and can't control themselves.

Goes without saying that some people should definitely not touch alcohol at all

But they don’t see it as an issue… it’s the Boys Club mentality.

Pixie

Yes that's the thing, boys can't handle a drink and lose control and I don't believe they don't understand that unless they're really stupid.

It's important to teach him how to act properly and never too early we definitely need to more education and awareness.

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By *ent in BlackMan
over a year ago

Silsden

"I wonder if there are the same warnings around the Rugby World Cup and, if not, is that because more men watch football... or football fans are pricks, but Rugby fans are fine upstanding gentlemen

I follow motorcycle racing, and sometimes drink when its on. I've never committed domestic violence either. Is it the sport or the person? Or is it that more people like football so theres a higher percentage?

I really do feel for people who suffer from domestic violence.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"I wonder if there are the same warnings around the Rugby World Cup and, if not, is that because more men watch football... or football fans are pricks, but Rugby fans are fine upstanding gentlemen

I really do feel for people who suffer from domestic violence. "

Of course motorcycle types are exempt from committing any crimes including domestic violence.. Dream on...

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By *he terrierMan
over a year ago

gateshead

Funny that I have drank and watched football but never felt the need to bash a woman about

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When Wales lose rugby domestic violence incidents go up. Its not new.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Teach more women to give a penalty kick where it hurts.

Many have tried.

Now all they get is flowers laid once a year.

Hyperbole. What's your answer then?"

I'm sure nobody needs to be 'taught' how to kick someone in the nuts.

Self defence is more effective.

It's absolutely not hyperbole. You think a man who likes controlling the woman will tolerate her fighting back?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Teach more women to give a penalty kick where it hurts.

Many have tried.

Now all they get is flowers laid once a year.

Hyperbole. What's your answer then?

As a survivor of domestic violence (by seconds), my answer would be to teach whoever is on the receiving end of the violence to call the police. "

As another survivor I would also teach everyone that the responsibility of men's violence or ending it does not lie with the woman.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Teach more women to give a penalty kick where it hurts.

Many have tried.

Now all they get is flowers laid once a year.

Hyperbole. What's your answer then?

As a survivor of domestic violence (by seconds), my answer would be to teach whoever is on the receiving end of the violence to call the police.

As another survivor I would also teach everyone that the responsibility of men's violence or ending it does not lie with the woman."

we all need to take a stand. And look to educate ourselves too.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Are these buggers at it tonight ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are these buggers at it tonight ?"

Somewhere, undoubtedly..I have seen victorious football fans celebrate by smashing up the town centre where the match was held. I have seen defeated fans console themselves by smashing up the town centre where the match was held....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I wonder if there are the same warnings around the Rugby World Cup and, if not, is that because more men watch football... or football fans are pricks, but Rugby fans are fine upstanding gentlemen

I'm pretty sure there's pricks that follow rugby as well and can't control themselves.

Goes without saying that some people should definitely not touch alcohol at all"

Alcohol is not the cause of domestic abuse/violence its the excuse for it.

Theres no reason for any one to abuse be violent to their partner be that male or female (males being victims of abuse/violence is reported even less than violence in the home against women). If you can't control yourself d*unk or sober leave. If your a victim leave go anywhere they never change. Go to the police, local hospital, shelter anywhere as long as its safe then report it and tell everyone. You haven't done anything to deserve a slap you are the strong one. You aren't the one who should feel shame. They are scum plain and simple scum.

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By *ent in BlackMan
over a year ago

Silsden

"I wonder if there are the same warnings around the Rugby World Cup and, if not, is that because more men watch football... or football fans are pricks, but Rugby fans are fine upstanding gentlemen

I really do feel for people who suffer from domestic violence.

Of course motorcycle types are exempt from committing any crimes including domestic violence.. Dream on..."

I never have.

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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago

Paisley

It’s a well known fact that there’s an increase in domestic violence when there’s football on. Let’s remember that men can also be victims of domestic abuse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Guys get d*unk England disappoint & men take it out on their wives. Story as old as time"

Statistics go up when they win too. 12 percent increase I believe, if memory serves.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

So their home team win and they still attack their partners..

Despicable

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So their home team win and they still attack their partners..

Despicable "
odd phrasing Tom.

It's dispicable full stop. Win, lose, draw, didn't play, don't support a team. D*unk, tipsy, high, sober.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"So their home team win and they still attack their partners..

Despicable odd phrasing Tom.

It's dispicable full stop. Win, lose, draw, didn't play, don't support a team. D*unk, tipsy, high, sober. "

Well nobody should be attacking their partners

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Pretty commonplace in Scotland that when the old firm play there is an increase in domestic violence..

Sad..

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan
over a year ago

If it's not the football, it's a look, something they said or done etc

Also not all domestic violence is hidden, Close friends, neighbours,' family of both usually know what's happening, they also need to speak up either to the abuser, police or a helpline

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By *unmatt888Man
over a year ago

Duns

"I wonder if there are the same warnings around the Rugby World Cup and, if not, is that because more men watch football... or football fans are pricks, but Rugby fans are fine upstanding gentlemen

I really do feel for people who suffer from domestic violence. "

Of course it’s the person. Sport doesn’t CAUSE domestic violence, it’s just that combination of alcohol and emotion tends to act as a trigger in those who are otherwise disposed to such crimes.

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