FabSwingers.com forum: Remembrance day / Veterans day.

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I am a American to me it's sad how some of you forget the fallen and have to lash out. I and my husband served with your troops. They deserve the utmost respect. Keyboard warriors forming a opinion that the have no clue what that means. Pisses me off. I have camaraderie with sisters and brothers from other nations. All family in my eyes. To this day they have my 6.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

All countries, your included have people who are anti the military and speaking as an ex serviceman too that's totally fine..

As is their right to express that albeit there are days like today perhaps that a bit of delaying such views whilst not enforced would be welcome..

We both have memorials in our areas that are testimony to those who paid the ultimate sacrifice so that people can express such views ..

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By *yron69Man
over a year ago

Fareham

My grandmother gave tea to yanks as they queued in Southampton before D-Day. Many of us don’t forget.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"All countries, your included have people who are anti the military and speaking as an ex serviceman too that's totally fine..

As is their right to express that albeit there are days like today perhaps that a bit of delaying such views whilst not enforced would be welcome..

We both have memorials in our areas that are testimony to those who paid the ultimate sacrifice so that people can express such views .."
1 Day out of 365 and people so visceral. It's sad.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

I think posts complaining about how people deal with Remembrance Day miss the point.

No one should be expected to celebrate and commemorate something in a morally approved manner.

That's what the other side were in favour of.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I literally have got handwritten cards in my mailbox today from our neighborhood children. I cried... So for some to forget your fallen that protected your values is sick.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"I literally have got handwritten cards in my mailbox today from our neighborhood children. I cried... So for some to forget your fallen that protected your values is sick. "

That is something to treasure and to focus upon rather than the negative thoughts of some..

We live in democratic countries which allows for free speech, much preferable even if others views grate than some of the alternatives where people get locked up for their views..

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I literally have got handwritten cards in my mailbox today from our neighborhood children. I cried... So for some to forget your fallen that protected your values is sick. "
So in my opinion respect those who served. We do it all year round some of you can't even do it for one fucking day. I love all my sisters and brothers that serve. Is 1 day such a determent in your assumed chaotic life ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"All countries, your included have people who are anti the military and speaking as an ex serviceman too that's totally fine..

As is their right to express that albeit there are days like today perhaps that a bit of delaying such views whilst not enforced would be welcome..

We both have memorials in our areas that are testimony to those who paid the ultimate sacrifice so that people can express such views .."

Most people who have an opinion on the act of remembrance are not anti military they are anti war. Of course it’s entirely right and proper that we respect and remember those who gave their lives, bodies and in some cases minds to protect the freedoms we enjoy today.

Those who have differing opinions have a right to them and those who have taken the shilling and donned the uniform should take pride in knowing they facilitated that right.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Couldn't agree more with your comments x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"All countries, your included have people who are anti the military and speaking as an ex serviceman too that's totally fine..

As is their right to express that albeit there are days like today perhaps that a bit of delaying such views whilst not enforced would be welcome..

We both have memorials in our areas that are testimony to those who paid the ultimate sacrifice so that people can express such views ..

Those who have differing opinions have a right to them and those who have taken the shilling and donned the uniform should take pride in knowing they facilitated that right."
The military is there for one purpose to serve and protect. Yes politicians are ignorant with their decisions. Yes it's not about them it's about the " Military family". To me it crosses more boundaries that culture politics and international boundaries. So what is wrong being a warrior? Both male and female or whatever your sexuality is? 1day and some asshats have to complain.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I literally have got handwritten cards in my mailbox today from our neighborhood children. I cried... So for some to forget your fallen that protected your values is sick. So in my opinion respect those who served. We do it all year round some of you can't even do it for one fucking day. I love all my sisters and brothers that serve. Is 1 day such a determent in your assumed chaotic life ?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"All countries, your included have people who are anti the military and speaking as an ex serviceman too that's totally fine..

As is their right to express that albeit there are days like today perhaps that a bit of delaying such views whilst not enforced would be welcome..

We both have memorials in our areas that are testimony to those who paid the ultimate sacrifice so that people can express such views ..

Those who have differing opinions have a right to them and those who have taken the shilling and donned the uniform should take pride in knowing they facilitated that right. The military is there for one purpose to serve and protect. Yes politicians are ignorant with their decisions. Yes it's not about them it's about the " Military family". To me it crosses more boundaries that culture politics and international boundaries. So what is wrong being a warrior? Both male and female or whatever your sexuality is? 1day and some asshats have to complain."

I am sorry but I don’t understand your point in your last post.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I thought free speech was sacrosanct

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im a celeb seems to be proving to me how weak willed and gullable the british really are those who died for this country must be turning in there graves when she hugged matt hancock grrrrr

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

'Yes politicians are ignorant with their decisions'

Genuinely interested here, I promise I'm not being facetious - you're not conscripted but have to kill off the back of those decisions (many of which you won't know when volantarily signing up). Doesn't that bother you? I do struggle to get on board with blanket hero worship of the military when I don't see a clear cause for what we're doing. I still mourn every life lost though, and hope we'll do better in future.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I think you will find here in the UK the act of remembrance is observed by the vast majority. I focus my thoughts on my fathers service to this country in the last world war and two friends who were damaged beyond repair after serving in NI. There are other countless other armed conflicts in recent history that are deserving of remembrance to. Here in the UK Sunday is as I say a very special day for the vast majority in the UK and most will show due deference."
Here it's 24/7 you can't go anywhere without being reminded. Shall we stop American flags flying and putting portraits of the local fallen on display? The huge disconnect is sad. I have more respect for the ones in my experience being a flight medic for your countrymen than some of you. No offense how fucked up is that.

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By *avexxMan
over a year ago

cheshire

never forget the fallen,, never

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I think you will find here in the UK the act of remembrance is observed by the vast majority. I focus my thoughts on my fathers service to this country in the last world war and two friends who were damaged beyond repair after serving in NI. There are other countless other armed conflicts in recent history that are deserving of remembrance to. Here in the UK Sunday is as I say a very special day for the vast majority in the UK and most will show due deference. Here it's 24/7 you can't go anywhere without being reminded. Shall we stop American flags flying and putting portraits of the local fallen on display? The huge disconnect is sad. I have more respect for the ones in my experience being a flight medic for your countrymen than some of you. No offense how fucked up is that."
Yes my PTSD is kicking in your remberance is totally different . I remember a Geordie kids last breath being mum. Nothing else...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think you will find here in the UK the act of remembrance is observed by the vast majority. I focus my thoughts on my fathers service to this country in the last world war and two friends who were damaged beyond repair after serving in NI. There are other countless other armed conflicts in recent history that are deserving of remembrance to. Here in the UK Sunday is as I say a very special day for the vast majority in the UK and most will show due deference. Here it's 24/7 you can't go anywhere without being reminded. Shall we stop American flags flying and putting portraits of the local fallen on display? The huge disconnect is sad. I have more respect for the ones in my experience being a flight medic for your countrymen than some of you. No offense how fucked up is that."

This is a very sensitive subject. As I say here in the UK we remember those who have served the nation in times of need and I think the act of remembrance is carried out with dignity and respect.

I would say however that those who do take the shilling should, when their service comes to an end, be entitled to be served by the nation by of care.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I think you will find here in the UK the act of remembrance is observed by the vast majority. I focus my thoughts on my fathers service to this country in the last world war and two friends who were damaged beyond repair after serving in NI. There are other countless other armed conflicts in recent history that are deserving of remembrance to. Here in the UK Sunday is as I say a very special day for the vast majority in the UK and most will show due deference. Here it's 24/7 you can't go anywhere without being reminded. Shall we stop American flags flying and putting portraits of the local fallen on display? The huge disconnect is sad. I have more respect for the ones in my experience being a flight medic for your countrymen than some of you. No offense how fucked up is that. Yes my PTSD is kicking in your remberance is totally different . I remember a Geordie kids last breath being mum. Nothing else..."
So tell me being a female listening to "mum" that haunts me to this day. Is it right to disparage your citizens? For 1 fucking day . That's all we ask... Remember.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think you will find here in the UK the act of remembrance is observed by the vast majority. I focus my thoughts on my fathers service to this country in the last world war and two friends who were damaged beyond repair after serving in NI. There are other countless other armed conflicts in recent history that are deserving of remembrance to. Here in the UK Sunday is as I say a very special day for the vast majority in the UK and most will show due deference. Here it's 24/7 you can't go anywhere without being reminded. Shall we stop American flags flying and putting portraits of the local fallen on display? The huge disconnect is sad. I have more respect for the ones in my experience being a flight medic for your countrymen than some of you. No offense how fucked up is that. Yes my PTSD is kicking in your remberance is totally different . I remember a Geordie kids last breath being mum. Nothing else..."

Then you have witnessed things I would never want to and no doubt the Geordie lad went to his heaven surrounded by love and unyielding compassion.

The act of remembrance is just that. The heads of states, the politicians have a small part to play in the act it’s not about politics it’s about remembering the Geordie lad, the Tommy and the GIs. Those lions were for the most part lead by donkeys. But that is war.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Sorry everyone I was just livid. The culture differences is hard to fathom. It's a hard day for me ...

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By *teveo99Man
over a year ago

gravesend

We are all brothers and sisters serving and vets , I shall be at the Cenotaph Sunday representing one of the ships I served on we also a few us marines who fly over especially to spend the weekend and March with us . Thankyou for your service blue1986

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport

This season reminds me of the sacrifices made by many which have allowed us the freedoms that we now have. I have the utmost respect for those who serve in the armed forces. At the same time I hold contempt for those among our politicians who are perfectly happy to stir conflict to further their own careers, not giving a crap about those who may end up fighting and giving their lives in wars that never needed to have happened. And I downright despise governments that having sent soldiers to fight, then treat them like shit when they return from war (eg. most of the British governments over the last couple of hundred years).

Those who wear red, white, black or purple poppies remember the sacrifices of those who died in wars - perhaps remembering different groups in different ways, but nonetheless showing respect. Also many who choose to wear no poppy will still dwell upon the conflicts past and present, wearing their respect inwardly, feeling no need to make it a public proclamation.

Unfortunately there are also some who will wear the red poppy as no more than an obligatory decoration at this time of year, without a single thought about what it stands for, or even actually tarnishing its meaning by wearing it (many politicians and others who make money and achieve power through casual disregard for those who have to do the fighting).

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"We are all brothers and sisters serving and vets , I shall be at the Cenotaph Sunday representing one of the ships I served on we also a few us marines who fly over especially to spend the weekend and March with us . Thankyou for your service blue1986"
love you brother

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By *teveo99Man
over a year ago

gravesend

Likewise Blu .

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

It's so easy for some of you to sit back and express your opinions. This is what We believed in... 1 day for remembering... Nope some dickheads have to make it all about them. Sorry forum mods . This is our day. The ones that paid with the ultimate sacrifice. Fuck off if you think otherwise. I'll choose my international sister and brotherhood over you fuckwits any day.Yes I am harsh but I love my peeps. We just love one another in dire situations .. no matter your color , sexual preference , politics, or momentary standing.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It's so easy for some of you to sit back and express your opinions. This is what We believed in... 1 day for remembering... Nope some dickheads have to make it all about them. Sorry forum mods . This is our day. The ones that paid with the ultimate sacrifice. Fuck off if you think otherwise. I'll choose my international sister and brotherhood over you fuckwits any day.Yes I am harsh but I love my peeps. We just love one another in dire situations .. no matter your color , sexual preference , politics, or momentary standing.

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I fly my middle finger to protect them... * Gives you the bird *

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The reality is for veterans, and for the families of those killed in action/died of wounds....everyday is Remembrance Day.

And lets not forget the amount of service personnel who take their own lives. Sometimes years after having left their respective branch of the Armed Forces.

I think ive lost more mates from suicide, than in actual combat.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I fly my middle finger to protect them... * Gives you the bird * "

I think you have made your point and perhaps a little tired and emotional?

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By *rtyIanMan
over a year ago

Gateway to the Beacons

everyday is remembrance day to me x

I served and lost close friends

I have fought my inner demons and do each day x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I fly my middle finger to protect them... * Gives you the bird *

I think you have made your point and perhaps a little tired and emotional?"

You've earned the right to make your point as many times as you want, OP. Its your thread.

Who cares if you are tired or emotional. Its an emotional time for a lot of us.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I fly my middle finger to protect them... * Gives you the bird *

I think you have made your point and perhaps a little tired and emotional?

You've earned the right to make your point as many times as you want, OP. Its your thread.

Who cares if you are tired or emotional. Its an emotional time for a lot of us.

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I am not going to sit back and relax because some choose to disparage the ones that sacrificed thier life to let that shit they say like it's a inconvenience.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I fly my middle finger to protect them... * Gives you the bird *

I think you have made your point and perhaps a little tired and emotional?

You've earned the right to make your point as many times as you want, OP. Its your thread.

Who cares if you are tired or emotional. Its an emotional time for a lot of us.

I am not going to sit back and relax because some choose to disparage the ones that sacrificed thier life to let that shit they say like it's a inconvenience. "

You have clearly not read my posts on this thread and frankly you’re not making any sense.

I hope you’re day of remembrance is what you wish it to be and bid you goodnight.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Absolutely massively an emotive day for some folk/and their families. Respect should always of course be a given. However, I think for the younger generation it feels probably very removed from their lives, and that is understandable too perhaps

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I fly my middle finger to protect them... * Gives you the bird *

I think you have made your point and perhaps a little tired and emotional?

You've earned the right to make your point as many times as you want, OP. Its your thread.

Who cares if you are tired or emotional. Its an emotional time for a lot of us.

I am not going to sit back and relax because some choose to disparage the ones that sacrificed thier life to let that shit they say like it's a inconvenience.

You have clearly not read my posts on this thread and frankly you’re not making any sense.

I hope you’re day of remembrance is what you wish it to be and bid you goodnight."
Colonel I am tired .. I cry trying to make people understand. My tears are for the fallen. Days like these are harsh. Yet some want to make it alm about them. If you can't understand. Well duck off.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I fly my middle finger to protect them... * Gives you the bird *

I think you have made your point and perhaps a little tired and emotional?

You've earned the right to make your point as many times as you want, OP. Its your thread.

Who cares if you are tired or emotional. Its an emotional time for a lot of us.

I am not going to sit back and relax because some choose to disparage the ones that sacrificed thier life to let that shit they say like it's a inconvenience.

You have clearly not read my posts on this thread and frankly you’re not making any sense.

I hope you’re day of remembrance is what you wish it to be and bid you goodnight. Colonel I am tired .. I cry trying to make people understand. My tears are for the fallen. Days like these are harsh. Yet some want to make it alm about them. If you can't understand. Well duck off."

Understood.

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By *lder funCouple
over a year ago

tottenham

A typical jodrell

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A typical jodrell"

Pardon?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A typical jodrell

Pardon?"

Google is probably your friend here

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By *lder funCouple
over a year ago

tottenham

jodrell bank = yank

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"jodrell bank = yank"

Ah, noted.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

We don't kettle tea we throw.it in the harbor.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We don't kettle tea we throw.it in the harbor.

Harbour

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"jodrell bank = yank

Ah, noted."

- wank, not yank

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"We don't kettle tea we throw.it in the harbor.

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if you can't understand my statement we'll...

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By *lder funCouple
over a year ago

tottenham

"jodrell bank = yank

Ah, noted.

- wank, not yank

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I

I was being polite

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By *he FAB Social - MCRCouple (FF)
over a year ago

manchester

I’m from a military family (Army brat)... I always observe Remembrance Day and any other military observation days.

I ensured my son wore his poppy to school and on Sunday we’ll sit and watch the service on TV.

The problem is that not many people understand what our vets went through, what they still go through whether serving or veterans, you’ll never change their minds unfortunately, so make peace with it.

Pixie

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By *lder funCouple
over a year ago

tottenham

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"We don't kettle tea we throw.it in the harbor.

Harbour "
Thank you for my spelling oversight

Spelling has been a more British proper influence than mine. You know since you can't understand cultural difference. Have you heard Georgie's on coms in the heat of battle? You can't call me out for a spelling mistake. No offense Geordies you confusing AF and yet I make a spelling mistake,??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"jodrell bank = yank

Ah, noted.

- wank, not yank

I was being polite"

Why? Nobody else is here

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I’m from a military family (Army brat)... I always observe Remembrance Day and any other military observation days.

I ensured my son wore his poppy to school and on Sunday we’ll sit and watch the service on TV.

Pixie

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Thank you!! Greatly appreciated. No Matter our nationality differences.

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By *lder funCouple
over a year ago

tottenham

I would normally take the piss,but I don't think the yank would understand it

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I would normally take the piss,but I don't think the yank would understand it"
pisz away. Let's hear your standpoint. You know the ones that sacrificed your right to say so. This will be epic.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I would normally take the piss,but I don't think the yank would understand it pisz away. Let's hear your standpoint. You know the ones that sacrificed your right to say so. This will be epic.

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Yank me away

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By *lder funCouple
over a year ago

tottenham

I was in the forces,45 R.M.C Zulu company,fought in the falklands,we lost 13 men in our regt,what's your fucking point ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I would normally take the piss,but I don't think the yank would understand it"
looks like you failed.. Your voice and condemnations is as direct result of the be very same people both men and women in protecting the values you deny?

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By *lder funCouple
over a year ago

tottenham

Read what I wrote

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I would normally take the piss,but I don't think the yank would understand it looks like you failed.. Your voice and condemnations is as direct result of the be very same people both men and women in protecting the values you deny? "
piss away motherfucker I protect my Uk sisters and brothers like my own. Who the fu cc k gave you that voice of freedom or did you forget by in your ignorance.

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By *lder funCouple
over a year ago

tottenham

You couldn't protect fuck all,just like Vietnam and afghanistan,you failed big time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’m from a military family (Army brat)... I always observe Remembrance Day and any other military observation days.

I ensured my son wore his poppy to school and on Sunday we’ll sit and watch the service on TV.

Pixie

Thank you!! Greatly appreciated. No Matter our nationality differences. "

To be honest it's each to their own. I think for the majority of the UK public the day/2min silence is observed. Everyone is well aware what has happened historically (and recent events). If folk don't 'get it', well then that's on them, no? My grandad signed up early as he could see subscription on the horizon. As a result he served as part of a Lancaster bombing crew from start to finish. He was beyond bloody lucky to get to go home, infact very one of few considering life expectancy with that. He got his medals, he never talked about it after. He did what he felt he would have to do regardless because folk above him make their own shitty choices. My brother served in the army in Ireland during the back end of the troubles. He was on body recovery duty a few times and said it was pretty shit (unsurprisingly). My cousin was out doing mass grave recovery during her time served. .. I think there's very little 'woohoo!', vs a lot of 'wtf' from every generation that serve, no? Yes absolutely you make friends for life. But ethically you're often paid very little to do a lot of questionable shit IMHO

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By *lder funCouple
over a year ago

tottenham

"I’m from a military family (Army brat)... I always observe Remembrance Day and any other military observation days.

I ensured my son wore his poppy to school and on Sunday we’ll sit and watch the service on TV.

Pixie

Thank you!! Greatly appreciated. No Matter our nationality differences.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I fly my middle finger to protect them... * Gives you the bird * "

Oh. We'll that'll be my question answered I guess

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"You couldn't protect fuck all,just like Vietnam and afghanistan,you failed big time"
we let's go there with your ignorance.. I picked up one of your brethren in my UH-60 should I ask as 68w mos. Aka flight medic just let him die for you to make a political standpoint? ... No I didn't he was my focus my understanding of righteousness . Yet yo in complain..as usual

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By *im75Her77Couple
over a year ago

937 S.W.

Yo Blu!

Happy Veterans Day!

We're tossin' one back for you and all of us at Legion Post 360 t'night!

Take care and have fun for those who cannot join us tonight but we wish they could.

Now it is time I go put some Iron Maiden on the juke box just to piss people off!

That is all.

-M

U.S.N. HT-1 C.P.O.

1992-2013(Ret.)

??????

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"You couldn't protect fuck all,just like Vietnam and afghanistan,you failed big time we let's go there with your ignorance.. I picked up one of your brethren in my UH-60 should I ask as 68w mos. Aka flight medic just let him die for you to make a political standpoint? ... No I didn't he was my focus my understanding of righteousness . Yet yo in complain..as usual

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Your typical standpoint is weak... Vietnam really I can call out Dunkirk and a plethora of UK failure.. umm remember 1776 dumbass and yet your history fails your remberance. You know the day..

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By *lder funCouple
over a year ago

tottenham

fuck me,John Wayne's back,the mother fucker

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"fuck me,John Wayne's back,the mother fucker"
We always have been here maybe you need to remember Churchill and Montgomery. I do... You know true British patriots... No you can't it goes against your perceptions.

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Remembrance day remembers all British forces and seems to forget about all the atrocities they did all over the world. There is a reason The Irish don't wear the poppy yet the British have a problem with it every year.

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over a year ago

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"fuck me,John Wayne's back,the mother fucker We always have been here maybe you need to remember Churchill and Montgomery. I do... You know true British patriots... No you can't it goes against your perceptions.

I told you I was in the forces,don't you fucking read ?

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"Remembrance day remembers all British forces and seems to forget about all the atrocities they did all over the world. There is a reason The Irish don't wear the poppy yet the British have a problem with it every year. "
They fought for their independence the Irish did.. just like you all created us. You know the superpower you despise funny how that works.

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over a year ago

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Super power my fucking arse

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"Remembrance day remembers all British forces and seems to forget about all the atrocities they did all over the world. There is a reason The Irish don't wear the poppy yet the British have a problem with it every year. They fought for their independence the Irish did.. just like you all created us. You know the superpower you despise funny how that works.

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bloody sunday look it up.

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Ireland should have always been left to be it's own country. Unfortunately as it was not it's caused so many deaths. It ain't right, and it's certainly not pretty. But some of the folk who kicked back have done it in a 'look at me', horrific statement fashion in bygone years

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"Super power my fucking arse"
.name another? IL will debunk your assessment. Clearly bi proved my point . The UK had once been the elite you degraded yourselves. Tell me I am wrong ? A once proud and dominant nation regulated to the annuals history.Wake up be more decisive.

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over a year ago

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China

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over a year ago

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I'm waiting

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I served for 20 years, I’m proud of what I did and wouldn’t change a thing.

Remembrance Day to me is special, I lost friends and colleague’s during my service and on operations, it’s my chance to remember them in my own way. If people don’t agree with what the military has done over the years, then that is fine and their own opinion.

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over a year ago

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Regardless of what nation you are from, remembrance is for all of the fallen in any conflict.

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Absolutely both sides. Should have been a free country decades ago. But you can't seem to agree on that yet?

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over a year ago

"Regardless of what nation you are from, remembrance is for all of the fallen in any conflict.

My youngest son started his basic training last week, 4th generation to join our armed forces, the first generation took 6 brothers out of the family and the only survivor was my grandfather and then his youngest brother who was too young to join up. For me it is remembering what they gave along with so many others."
Exactly it's sacrifice for the values of others. Much respect for your family

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"Regardless of what nation you are from, remembrance is for all of the fallen in any conflict.

My youngest son started his basic training last week, 4th generation to join our armed forces, the first generation took 6 brothers out of the family and the only survivor was my grandfather and then his youngest brother who was too young to join up. For me it is remembering what they gave along with so many others."
not for Ireland its not. Too many atrocities over 800 Years don't by the British army against us. You can celebrate it all you want yourself but don't push it on us.

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"Regardless of what nation you are from, remembrance is for all of the fallen in any conflict.

Fair play and good luck to your son in his new career !

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"I'm waiting"
aww let's divulge into the china the dominance theory. Explain your analysis is the western world going to accept Xi's totalitarianism ? If you think otherwise you are the problem.

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By *lder funCouple
over a year ago

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Is that the best you can come up with,you mother fucker

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over a year ago

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"Is that the best you can come up with,you mother fucker"
mind your language

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"Is that the best you can come up with,you mother fucker"
angry much ? I am a female . I can do better.

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over a year ago

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"Is that the best you can come up with,you mother fuckermind your language "
you can go and fuck yourself

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over a year ago

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I already been called one earlier

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over a year ago

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"Is that the best you can come up with,you mother fuckermind your language you can go and fuck yourself"
sad you are living in London and you think you know what the British army is like you have no idea. If you want to know what it is like go to the bog side in Derry and ask about the British army other than that shut up.

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over a year ago

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I done 2 tours of Ireland .one in 81 and one in 83, .Now you shut up

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over a year ago

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"I done 2 tours of Ireland .one in 81 and one in 83, .Now you shut up"
you are a i won't say what in my eyes. We hate you.

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"Is that the best you can come up with,you mother fuckermind your language you can go and fuck yourself"
Relax why the hostilities. Just because my certain values for your right to call me a "motherfucker" . Yet you can't understand your direct statement on those that sacrificed . Well you need history lessons on what is right.. I was a E-6 in the US army being a female and fought for every inch of my my progression. Do you think your insults matter to me when I had to endure much worse! You are comical

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over a year ago

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"I done 2 tours of Ireland .one in 81 and one in 83, .Now you shut upyou are a i won't say what in my eyes. We hate you. "
to a certain extent I can understand that,if the boot was on the other foot I would probably feel the same

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over a year ago

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"Is that the best you can come up with,you mother fuckermind your language you can go and fuck yourself Relax why the hostilities. Just because my certain values for your right to call me a "motherfucker" . Yet you can't understand your direct statement on those that sacrificed . Well you need history lessons on what is right.. I was a E-6 in the US army being a female and fought for every inch of my my progression. Do you think your insults matter to me when I had to endure much worse! You are comical

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you started with the name calling

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"I done 2 tours of Ireland .one in 81 and one in 83, .Now you shut upyou are a i won't say what in my eyes. We hate you. to a certain extent I can understand that,if the boot was on the other foot I would probably feel the same"
no we hate you. You are an arsehole by your comments you have left here. But I bet you wouldn't have the balls to go into a pub in the bog side in Derry and say what you are saying here.

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"Is that the best you can come up with,you mother fuckermind your language you can go and fuck yourselfsad you are living in London and you think you know what the British army is like you have no idea. If you want to know what it is like go to the bog side in Derry and ask about the British army other than that shut up. "

My brother served in Cooks Town going back a few decades. He was on body recovery duty fishing someone out of acid, back to back patrol. Couldn't leave the barracks... Nobody wanted to be there. Nobody. Folk create their own misery sometimes perhaps? He didn't want to be there at all. The locals didn't want him there either. Blame the government/issues, not the individual

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"I done 2 tours of Ireland .one in 81 and one in 83, .Now you shut upyou are a i won't say what in my eyes. We hate you. to a certain extent I can understand that,if the boot was on the other foot I would probably feel the same"
Ireland ? No offense it's nothing compared to my tours in Afghanistan and Iraq. Reevaluate t be e difference.

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over a year ago

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"I done 2 tours of Ireland .one in 81 and one in 83, .Now you shut upyou are a i won't say what in my eyes. We hate you. to a certain extent I can understand that,if the boot was on the other foot I would probably feel the sameno we hate you. You are an arsehole by your comments you have left here. But I bet you wouldn't have the balls to go into a pub in the bog side in Derry and say what you are saying here. "
go in an orange lodge and say that lol

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"I done 2 tours of Ireland .one in 81 and one in 83, .Now you shut upyou are a i won't say what in my eyes. We hate you. to a certain extent I can understand that,if the boot was on the other foot I would probably feel the sameno we hate you. You are an arsehole by your comments you have left here. But I bet you wouldn't have the balls to go into a pub in the bog side in Derry and say what you are saying here. go in an orange lodge and say that lol"
come down to the Republic and say it. We hate you down here too.

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over a year ago

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I don't give a fuck who you hate,up the paras

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No offense but how do you really know?

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did he run around with multiple national people in Ireland ? No it was a policing action.

No offense but how do you really know? "

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"I am a American to me it's sad how some of you forget the fallen and have to lash out. I and my husband served with your troops. They deserve the utmost respect. Keyboard warriors forming a opinion that the have no clue what that means. Pisses me off. I have camaraderie with sisters and brothers from other nations. All family in my eyes. To this day they have my 6. "

Did I say I've forgotten? No! Just said we should forget all the bad human kind has done in the past. The UK and America are not innocent countries! The atrocities they've done in the past are worse than what other countries do that we need 'defending' from.

Is it wrong to want peace in the world? That's what I was saying! I hate the armed forces, I hate weapons, I hate wars and I hate the fact people justify it by saying they're serving their country. Army isn't freedom, it's doing what your told or else! The army is now a career not serving your country. Th as just something they say to make you patriotic. The history of the world is just fighting, wars and death! What for? Land and religion? Greed and stupidity! Religion is to blame for everything bad this world has ever done!

Those of you who attacked my last post are all hypocrites! Oh I remember the fallen and believe in what they were fighting for but please keep your opinions to yourself if they're not like mine! LMAO! Remembrance day doenst make me sad it makes me angry! Angry that every year the number of fallen rise! We are a nation of tolerance and pit up with it and one day a year we will remember them by putting a banner on Facebook and a few posts. You say we can't stop wars? Why not? We just need to end religion! Oh yeah I see your point now. Too many fools and sheep in the world for that to happen. People moan about governments but love the army. But if the government say jump the army jumps. The army is just the people in powers power. With armies the people in power have nothing! The army is made up of regular people so why don't they just not fight? Not the ones defending. Like WW2, we're the Nazis really bad people or just serving their country? They were just as bad as the guy giving the orders.

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By *lder funCouple
over a year ago

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I was in the Falkland conflict for fuck sake,

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over a year ago

No offense but how do you really know? "
was the Ireland debacle a full blown military action? Or a policing one ?

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No offense but how do you really know? was the Ireland debacle a full blown military action? Or a policing one ?"
troubles read the history

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did he run around with multiple national people in Ireland ? No it was a policing action.

No offense but how do you really know? "

Ireland troubles were a 'policing action'? Erm...

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It was a policing action,it was a terrible waste of lives for everyone involved,and most squaddies didn't really understand what we were doing there to be honest

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"It was a policing action,it was a terrible waste of lives for everyone involved,and most squaddies didn't really understand what we were doing there to be honest"
no it was the British army opening fire on a peaceful protest. That is the truth and not the shite the British army put out

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Ok I have a question for anyone who has served or is serving. If by some reason the UK wanted to invade France for no reason and the orders were to invade. What would you do? Follow orders as that's what your 'country' wants or disobey orders? If you disobey then you're not in the army to serve your country. "
Yet you disrespected the sacrifices of the voices that can't speak for your entertainment. Some of us are here to answer your ignorance no matter the nationality. Your freedom of expression is reliant others that paid the ultimate sacrifice. Yet you fail and condemned them for the decisions you currently enjoy. Fuck ofc they deserve better.

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"It was a policing action,it was a terrible waste of lives for everyone involved,and most squaddies didn't really understand what we were doing there to be honest"

LMAO! There you go! Following orders regardless. What we fighting for? Fuck knows but I was told to do thistle the country. Oh well, that's ok then carry on.

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over a year ago

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Yeah ok,there are many conflicting reports about that day,I'm not saying who is right either,I don't think anyone will really know,only the perpetrators

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Ok I have a question for anyone who has served or is serving. If by some reason the UK wanted to invade France for no reason and the orders were to invade. What would you do? Follow orders as that's what your 'country' wants or disobey orders? If you disobey then you're not in the army to serve your country. Yet you disrespected the sacrifices of the voices that can't speak for your entertainment. Some of us are here to answer your ignorance no matter the nationality. Your freedom of expression is reliant others that paid the ultimate sacrifice. Yet you fail and condemned them for the decisions you currently enjoy. Fuck ofc they deserve better."

War, huh, what is it good for?

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"Yeah ok,there are many conflicting reports about that day,I'm not saying who is right either,I don't think anyone will really know,only the perpetrators"
im right we learn proper history unlike the British people we know exactly what the British empire was like.

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"It was a policing action,it was a terrible waste of lives for everyone involved,and most squaddies didn't really understand what we were doing there to be honest

LMAO! There you go! Following orders regardless. What we fighting for? Fuck knows but I was told to do thistle the country. Oh well, that's ok then carry on.

Ok, you say we fight for freedom. How free do you feel right now? Is the UK a free country? The UK is a laughing stock with corrupt politicians laughing. Cost of living crisis, nurses going to food banks but politicians can still get there 100k a year plus expenses. It's a joke and people are a joke for putting up with it. "
It's called inflation you know every country is having it. Goof. You acting it's just about you why is that ?it's global what is to our be perception bon that be this ought to be interesting...

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over a year ago

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Can't argue if someone has logic like that

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Ok I have a question for anyone who has served or is serving. If by some reason the UK wanted to invade France for no reason and the orders were to invade. What would you do? Follow orders as that's what your 'country' wants or disobey orders? If you disobey then you're not in the army to serve your country. Yet you disrespected the sacrifices of the voices that can't speak for your entertainment. Some of us are here to answer your ignorance no matter the nationality. Your freedom of expression is reliant others that paid the ultimate sacrifice. Yet you fail and condemned them for the decisions you currently enjoy. Fuck ofc they deserve better.

War, huh, what is it good for? "
says the idiot on a conception that was designed for war . How odd is that go backpack you have no clue.

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"Yeah ok,there are many conflicting reports about that day,I'm not saying who is right either,I don't think anyone will really know,only the perpetratorsim right we learn proper history unlike the British people we know exactly what the British empire was like. "

The British empire has long since passed IMHO. Times change, shit moves on. None of us are innocent in history here. We've all ancestors who've made poor judgements

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"It was a policing action,it was a terrible waste of lives for everyone involved,and most squaddies didn't really understand what we were doing there to be honest

LMAO! There you go! Following orders regardless. What we fighting for? Fuck knows but I was told to do thistle the country. Oh well, that's ok then carry on.

Ok, you say we fight for freedom. How free do you feel right now? Is the UK a free country? The UK is a laughing stock with corrupt politicians laughing. Cost of living crisis, nurses going to food banks but politicians can still get there 100k a year plus expenses. It's a joke and people are a joke for putting up with it. It's called inflation you know every country is having it. Goof. You acting it's just about you why is that ?it's global what is to our be perception bon that be this ought to be interesting..."

Nope youre going to have to repeat that. Calm down and type slowly.

But the 1st part I understood. Did I say it wasn't inflation? I said... there is a cost of living crisis but we are letting the politicians get away with giving themselves pay rises to 100k a year when nurses are having to go to food banks. Listen I live in a tent and pay no rent. I don't have bills and don't pay taxes. I don't claim benefits... I'm as free as anyone can get this day and age. I don't need to care what's going on with inflation etc. Ok I'll pay a bit more for some food. So why should I care? I care because no one sees what's really going on in the world. Some do but people like yourself who is military minded will always defend the government no matter what. Americans kill more Americans than any other country has. Why are you not fighting for that? You want to save the lives of Americans?

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The British empire has long since passed IMHO. Times change, shit moves on. None of us are innocent in history here. We've all ancestors who've made poor judgements "
not to us its not. Our population has still not recovered since the genocide the British tried to do to us so it runs very deep our hatred towards the British forces.

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Ok I have a question for anyone who has served or is serving. If by some reason the UK wanted to invade France for no reason and the orders were to invade. What would you do? Follow orders as that's what your 'country' wants or disobey orders? If you disobey then you're not in the army to serve your country. Yet you disrespected the sacrifices of the voices that can't speak for your entertainment. Some of us are here to answer your ignorance no matter the nationality. Your freedom of expression is reliant others that paid the ultimate sacrifice. Yet you fail and condemned them for the decisions you currently enjoy. Fuck ofc they deserve better.

War, huh, what is it good for? says the idiot on a conception that was designed for war . How odd is that go backpack you have no clue. "

I have more of a clue than your narrow mindedness. Go and follow like a good girl

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The British empire has long since passed IMHO. Times change, shit moves on. None of us are innocent in history here. We've all ancestors who've made poor judgements not to us its not. Our population has still not recovered since the genocide the British tried to do to us so it runs very deep our hatred towards the British forces. "

Ain't it funny that the British want to forget and move on when it's something they've done.

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Surely that's the government's issue, not the serving soldiers though? Nobody wanted to be there. It was never exactly like a tour in Canada snowboarding

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I have read this whole thread.

I am concerned. You mentioned your PTSD and it seems you are triggered right now. I understand, 25 years of my own service has left me with cPTSD. I suggest, with much love and respect, that this thread is not helping you. Step away and practice fome self care. This is not a healthy environment for you x

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Ain't it funny that the British want to forget and move on when it's something they've done. "

Well it's not exactly like it all kicked off in 2019 is it? So, yes for all involved it'd presumably be for the best to move the fuck on?

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Surely that's the government's issue, not the serving soldiers though? Nobody wanted to be there. It was never exactly like a tour in Canada snowboarding

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unfortunately you were never though in school the real truth about the British empire and what they were like. We were. I don't want to fall out with any one on here most of you are sound. But don't tell us to get over our history it runs very very deep with us.

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Ain't it funny that the British want to forget and move on when it's something they've done.

Well it's not exactly like it all kicked off in 2019 is it? So, yes for all involved it'd presumably be for the best to move the fuck on? "

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Ain't it funny that the British want to forget and move on when it's something they've done. "
Let's analyze your backpack. It's a direct product of war. It's designed to take the stress off the warfare fighter and carry more loads. Quit being a hypocrite drop the backpack and carry all your gear on a stick like a Hobo.

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By *im75Her77Couple
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J.F.C. SHITSTAIN!

Thankfully time machines do not exist.

I see a slew of people here firing those damned things up just to go back in time to make each other ghosts.

Have fun with that!

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Ain't it funny that the British want to forget and move on when it's something they've done.

Well it's not exactly like it all kicked off in 2019 is it? So, yes for all involved it'd presumably be for the best to move the fuck on? "

Oh... So shouldn't we move on from all the other wars and conflicts then if it happened before 2019?

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It does not take much to thank the ones for one fucking day that sacrificed for you. I understand the UK military sacrifices. Yet some people have a need to make it about anthem. It's disgusting...

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Surely that's the government's issue, not the serving soldiers though? Nobody wanted to be there. It was never exactly like a tour in Canada snowboarding

unfortunately you were never though in school the real truth about the British empire and what they were like. We were. I don't want to fall out with any one on here most of you are sound. But don't tell us to get over our history it runs very very deep with us. "

I have mates based in both the extremes of Ireland. They mostly bitch about their bosses, and their mates being twats. Nobody seems to have an issue with me being English, nor bangs on about my personal repression of them. So maybe you're you're just feeling a little over sensitive? I'm absolutely not saying anyone should do away with their history. But as you said yourself it's not so much the case now, no?

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About them.

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Ain't it funny that the British want to forget and move on when it's something they've done.

Well it's not exactly like it all kicked off in 2019 is it? So, yes for all involved it'd presumably be for the best to move the fuck on?

Oh... So shouldn't we move on from all the other wars and conflicts then if it happened before 2019? "

Absolutely not!... But as if you take my flippant comment into context rather than not. That would be awesome

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Ain't it funny that the British want to forget and move on when it's something they've done. Let's analyze your backpack. It's a direct product of war. It's designed to take the stress off the warfare fighter and carry more loads. Quit being a hypocrite drop the backpack and carry all your gear on a stick like a Hobo. Otherwise you crying for nothing but your self absorbed attention."

Oh shut up! What a fucking thing to say! Wow you're really clutching at straws lol. My backpack is a product of war LMAO! What a thing to say! I'm a hypocrite because I use a backpack? Ok let's analyse the backpack. It was invented in Norway in 1908 by a hunter with sore shoulders. So yeah a backpack would have been invented if wars never existed.

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Meh, its like someone picked apart at your comment when you'd already stated your opinion on it

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It seems the debate has gone of track somewhat.

Let’s not forget sight that most people in the UK observe and respect the act of remembrance. Some people have views that may not with the main stream and it’s their right to do so.

War is often waged by those who have very little respect for human life and in the recent past for no valid reason. The clip below demonstrates that the prosecution of armed conflict is by those who are detached from reality. Lions led by donkeys.

The cenotaph really does deserve respect, gratitude and unremitting thanks from all who value freedom.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/iraq-war-haunts-george-w-bush-in-speech-gaffe/vi-AAXrvxY

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By *arkandlovelyWoman
over a year ago

South Derbyshire

Are we meant to bow down to your thoughts on this because you're 'Murican? Not really sure why that's relevant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are we meant to bow down to your thoughts on this because you're 'Murican? Not really sure why that's relevant."

I think the OP was carried away with emotion of the day.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It does not take much to thank the ones for one fucking day that sacrificed for you. I understand the UK military sacrifices. Yet some people have a need to make it about anthem. It's disgusting..."

OP it’s incoherent like this that really don’t do your point of view any favours.

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By *yron69Man
over a year ago

Fareham

Are we meant to bow down to your thoughts on this because you're 'Murican? Not really sure why that's relevant."

He was just stating where he was from. Wtf is a murican?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unpopular opinion alert. Those who died in the war were not automatically hero’s because they gave the ultimate sacrifice, they were also victims. It didn’t stop war over 100 years ago, it won’t stop it in the future. I’ll be taking my kid to a service tomorrow, she’ll be reading the names of local people who died in service, in remembrance fashion, but people who serve and complain about a lack of respect are often, to my mind, just justifying the self importance of their own service. Case in point with the OP who has chosen today to complain about how others undertake (or don’t) remember since over actually promoting its importance. It is important, I k own the names of the families that lost multiple members of their family on my local memorial, and their regiments, but being told to remember better, irks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is that the best you can come up with,you mother fucker"
is mother fucking not why most people are here tho?

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By *uliette500Woman
over a year ago

Hull

You are from America which is one of the most racist, sexist and valueless countries in the world and you preach to us.... Really?

At least we still have free speech, which is why people can have their own views and voice them if they wish.

No we don't have flags on every street corner and we don't pledge allegiance to it in the classroom. That is more about indoctrination then patriotism.

The recent political disions in America regarding women's rights and abortion are atrocious atrocious and at least our children are safe in schools because our politicians chose to defend the rights of the public and not the right of others to bear arms.

I make a polite request..... Please do not come to a country that is more free than yours and critise unless you are prepared to take a hit back.

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By *ichaelsmyMan
over a year ago

douglas

Look up the royal marine band Mountbatten festival of music 2022 on the video share site.

The uk national anthem is played followed by the Ukraine national anthem.

See the reactions of those of us in the royal Albert hall, serving, veterans or anyone else

To understand

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By *ensual-dominant-passionMan
over a year ago

sheffield

Living in a democracy people have a right to celebrate the way they choose to… even if they were to do nothing that’s their given right and choice…

Do people love the sacrifices our brave soldiers made.. absolutely, But you have to look at the history of wars.. which wars are we commending our troops on? The iraq war? To me that is a war crime by our politicians… I wouldn’t say I’m proud of our troops fighting in that war.. more sympathetic that they had to go there and go through what they went through by the decisions of our politicians.. when you say your “proud” want exactly are we proud of… I know what I’m proud of… my great grandfather who served in World War Two… that’s who I will be wearing my poppy for.. not the Iraq war where near a quarter of a million Iraqi civilians were killed.. and when we left the country in a absolute mess… we all know what happened after..

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Are we meant to bow down to your thoughts on this because you're 'Murican? Not really sure why that's relevant.

I think the OP was carried away with emotion of the day."
I was my fault.

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By *yron69Man
over a year ago

Fareham

To most The Great War had no reasonable cause. Plus many were missing or found with no identification. Thus remembrance was born.

Adolf continued the war with an insane inferiority complex and there was little appetite to oppose him. We must be thankful they did.

Other wars have different causes but most thrown into them would rather not be sent.

Choose to not remember if you want but keep quiet about it.

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By *ensual-dominant-passionMan
over a year ago

sheffield

"To most The Great War had no reasonable cause. Plus many were missing or found with no identification. Thus remembrance was born.

Adolf continued the war with an insane inferiority complex and there was little appetite to oppose him. We must be thankful they did.

Other wars have different causes but most thrown into them would rather not be sent.

Choose to not remember if you want but keep quiet about it."

Same goes for telling people to remember when they choose not to openly express it… like the OP has mentioned.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"To most The Great War had no reasonable cause. Plus many were missing or found with no identification. Thus remembrance was born.

Adolf continued the war with an insane inferiority complex and there was little appetite to oppose him. We must be thankful they did.

Other wars have different causes but most thrown into them would rather not be sent.

Choose to not remember if you want but keep quiet about it."

I respect the values for which our forebears fought. Including freedom of expression, not just bowing to a popular or dominant sentiment.

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By *yron69Man
over a year ago

Fareham

"To most The Great War had no reasonable cause. Plus many were missing or found with no identification. Thus remembrance was born.

Adolf continued the war with an insane inferiority complex and there was little appetite to oppose him. We must be thankful they did.

Other wars have different causes but most thrown into them would rather not be sent.

Choose to not remember if you want but keep quiet about it.

I respect the values for which our forebears fought. Including freedom of expression, not just bowing to a popular or dominant sentiment."

Oh aren't you the rebel..

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"To most The Great War had no reasonable cause. Plus many were missing or found with no identification. Thus remembrance was born.

Adolf continued the war with an insane inferiority complex and there was little appetite to oppose him. We must be thankful they did.

Other wars have different causes but most thrown into them would rather not be sent.

Choose to not remember if you want but keep quiet about it.

I respect the values for which our forebears fought. Including freedom of expression, not just bowing to a popular or dominant sentiment.

Oh aren't you the rebel.."

Err... No

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You are from America which is one of the most racist, sexist and valueless countries in the world and you preach to us.... Really?

At least we still have free speech, which is why people can have their own views and voice them if they wish.

No we don't have flags on every street corner and we don't pledge allegiance to it in the classroom. That is more about indoctrination then patriotism.

I make a polite request..... Please do not come to a country that is more free than yours and critise unless you are prepared to take a hit back. "

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By *idnight RamblerMan
over a year ago

Pershore

True, but sacrifices were made, amongst other things, for our freedom to express contentious opinions. In a way, using that freedom is the greatest tribute.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Some of 'you' ? Some of who ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some of 'you' ? Some of who ?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

No no no backpacker.

I read your O.P. yesterday.

You did not 'disrespect the fallen.' ......

Anyway ..... you are all of you not some of you.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

It's my fault I apologize. Certain days trigger memories. I get overwhelmed emotionally.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"It's my fault I apologize. Certain days trigger memories. I get overwhelmed emotionally."

Respect to you for saying that, on some days and with some subjects this bloody social media is best avoided..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's my fault I apologize. Certain days trigger memories. I get overwhelmed emotionally."

I like said earlier you have witnessed things I would never want to. You did your duty and should be proud of what you did.

However there is absolutely no glory in war quite the opposite only suffering and tears. Tomorrow I will stand at the war memorial and take time to remember all those who have have served and thank them for allowing me the freedoms Bourne from their lost years their ongoing pain. I will take my dads record of service (1939 - 47) his brothers desert rat medals and remember them for what two ordinary working class Manchester lads gave in the fight against one of if not the most vilest doctrines to be prosecuted by the human race.

I am no psychologist but when the trials of life from your service manifest seek out the writings of the war poet Wilfred Owen specifically those poems on the post war issues.

I hope you feel better today.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It's my fault I apologize. Certain days trigger memories. I get overwhelmed emotionally.

I like said earlier you have witnessed things I would never want to. You did your duty and should be proud of what you did.

I am no psychologist but when the trials of life from your service manifest seek out the writings of the war poet Wilfred Owen specifically those poems on the post war issues.

I hope you feel better today."
I do thank you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's my fault I apologize. Certain days trigger memories. I get overwhelmed emotionally."

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By *ich_ChesterMan
over a year ago

Chester

As an ex serviceman who served 24 years in various theatres of war and conflict i remember the fallen all year round having lost friends and family, not just on 11/11/11. However it is a chance to ALL who wish to do so to remember. Some will not that is there choice.

The bond of the military is strong amongst all our brothers and sisters

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

I told you I was in the forces,don't you fucking read ?"
I bet you are nothing more than a keyboard “Walt”

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

'Lest we forget' should be re-written as

'Lest we forget to prevent it ever happening again'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP I wish that you could have tuned in to last nights service of remembrance televised by the BBC and this mornings act of remembrance at the cenotaph.

All done with dignity and genuine feeling of thanks to those who have served. No rants no histrionics just thanks.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

OP I wish that you could have tuned in to last nights service of remembrance televised by the BBC and this mornings act of remembrance at the cenotaph.

All done with dignity and genuine feeling of thanks to those who have served. No rants no histrionics just thanks."
I am just watching this mornings as I went along to my local service of remembrance first.. it is an emotional time. I shall never forget

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

OP I wish that you could have tuned in to last nights service of remembrance televised by the BBC and this mornings act of remembrance at the cenotaph.

All done with dignity and genuine feeling of thanks to those who have served. No rants no histrionics just thanks."
Watched it on YouTube it was beautiful.

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport

I'm sitting out Remembrance this year, no going to church, no watching the cenotaph on tv, no poppy. I'm not forgetting or ignoring the sacrifices of all those before and present, I'm just paralyzed by the major personal losses that I've suffered starting 1st February 2018, then on the 16th of September this year, and on the 2nd of November. Plus other losses not quite so close but still marking me.

What I'm trying to say but failing badly at, is that not everyone who appears to be ignoring Remembrance Day has actually forgotten the fallen, and why they fell. Some of us are kind of crushed by other things and cannot make the emotional space at the moment in case we break completely. So please be kind to those who might not be wearing a poppy, might not be putting on the public show, try to judge people more by their actions.

Conversely, not everyone wearing the poppy really does care. IMHO there are many in politics/media/other public positions for whom remembrance season is just cosplay. A chance for points scoring, a public show but feeling nothing, or worse than nothing. Those who tell others to go to war, then treat them as worthless when they return.

I've rambled on too long. Peace.

Polly xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm sitting out Remembrance this year, no going to church, no watching the cenotaph on tv, no poppy. I'm not forgetting or ignoring the sacrifices of all those before and present, I'm just paralyzed by the major personal losses that I've suffered starting 1st February 2018, then on the 16th of September this year, and on the 2nd of November. Plus other losses not quite so close but still marking me.

I've rambled on too long. Peace.

Polly xxx"

Poll

You have nor rambled at all you’re having to deal with recent personal life events which take precedence. The very fact that you are stating your position shows you care.

Peace to!

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By *ertcamembertMan
over a year ago

Reading area

OP I wish that you could have tuned in to last nights service of remembrance televised by the BBC and this mornings act of remembrance at the cenotaph.

All done with dignity and genuine feeling of thanks to those who have served. No rants no histrionics just thanks."
Yes to me it's about expressing thanks to those who served and the sacrifices they made

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