FabSwingers.com forum: DNA Heritage test

By *ovingSussexLife OP Man
over a year ago

West Sussex

Reading the Famous Arab posts got me thinking about my own heritage.

I know my mum had Irish parents, my dad's father was Welsh, his mum English, but we suspect Jewish lineage as well. Would be quite interesting to find out exact genetic make up.

Anyone had one of these DNA tests. Seems to be a few on the market like Ancestry. Were the results as you thought? Any weird results come out?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s whatever a random guy on Fab tells you it is.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Yes we've both had one. The results for one of us were as expected and the other was quite disappointed that their DNA was from a tiny area and not exotic at all

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By *ovingSussexLife OP Man
over a year ago

West Sussex

"Yes we've both had one. The results for one of us were as expected and the other was quite disappointed that their DNA was from a tiny area and not exotic at all

Haha. I suppose that's the risk of these sort of things.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Yes we've both had one. The results for one of us were as expected and the other was quite disappointed that their DNA was from a tiny area and not exotic at all

Haha. I suppose that's the risk of these sort of things."

It has lead to some very interesting discoveries via our family trees and matches with others who've taken a DNA test. Including some family members we didn't know about...

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Yes we've both had one. The results for one of us were as expected and the other was quite disappointed that their DNA was from a tiny area and not exotic at all

Keep meaning to do ours. However "British peasant" probably makes up 100% of Mr KC and the only thing I'm sure about is that I'll have a reasonable bit of Ashkenazi Jewishness (from my Great Grandfather). The rest? I might be Native American

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Yes we've both had one. The results for one of us were as expected and the other was quite disappointed that their DNA was from a tiny area and not exotic at all

You might be surprised.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Yes we've both had one. The results for one of us were as expected and the other was quite disappointed that their DNA was from a tiny area and not exotic at all

You might be surprised.

Buffalo Bill did visit round here with a group of Native Americans, so it's actually not completely out of the realms of fantasy

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over a year ago

Used Ancestry in the past and after a lot of digging found I’m not only Scottish (knew that already) my clan name also battled alongside William Wallace, battled against the English in the Jacobean days and even had a family member exiled from Scotland not long after who then went and married into the royal family of Holland… and that’s before I get to the Norse side of my family

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Yes we've both had one. The results for one of us were as expected and the other was quite disappointed that their DNA was from a tiny area and not exotic at all

You might be surprised.

Buffalo Bill did visit round here with a group of Native Americans, so it's actually not completely out of the realms of fantasy

Do you find yourself making moccasins I your spare time?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hello, I hope this helps. I did a DNA test through My Heritage aboit 8 year's ago,and received my results in around 5-6 weeks.

Furthermore I also receive emails from My Heritage with suggestions for relatives already on their database.

And it is possible to contact these people.

More recently I have also done a second DNA test with CRI Genetics, again a similar wait time for results. I found my results from CRI very much more interesting, CRI include a history of human migration of peoples from each identified country or area that is shown in your DNA makeup.

I always believed is was predominantly English/British, in fact I am mostly of Germanic origins with plenty of Easter European countries thrown in,Including Italian.

The interesting thing in the Italian thread is the information given to me suggesting thus is highly likely as a result of the Roman invasion of Britain.

I hope this info helps, all the best.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hello, I hope this helps. I did a DNA test through My Heritage aboit 8 year's ago,and received my results in around 5-6 weeks.

Furthermore I also receive emails from My Heritage with suggestions for relatives already on their database.

And it is possible to contact these people.

I have also done a second DNA test with CRI Genetics, again a similar wait time for results. I found my results from CRI very much more interesting, CRI include a history of human migration of peoples from each identified country or area that is shown in your DNA makeup.

I always believed is was predominantly English/British, in fact I am mostly of Germanic origins with plenty of Easter European countries thrown in. Including Italian.The interesting thing in the Italian thread is the information given to me suggesting thus is highly likely as a result of the Roman invasion of Britain.

I hope this info helps, all the best.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hello, I hope this helps. I did a DNA test through My Heritage aboit 8 yeard ago,and received my results in around 5-6 weeks.

Furthermore I also receive emails from My Heritage with suggestions for relatives already on their database.

And it is possible to contact these people.

I hope this info helps, all the best.

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By *ovingSussexLife OP Man
over a year ago

West Sussex

"Hello, I hope this helps. I did a DNA test through My Heritage aboit 8 year's ago,and received my results in around 5-6 weeks.

Furthermore I also receive emails from My Heritage with suggestions for relatives already on their database.

And it is possible to contact these people.

I hope this info helps, all the best."

Thats really interesting

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By *ovingSussexLife OP Man
over a year ago

West Sussex

"Used Ancestry in the past and after a lot of digging found I’m not only Scottish (knew that already) my clan name also battled alongside William Wallace, battled against the English in the Jacobean days and even had a family member exiled from Scotland not long after who then went and married into the royal family of Holland… and that’s before I get to the Norse side of my family

Thats pretty cool!

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By *ovingSussexLife OP Man
over a year ago

West Sussex

"Yes we've both had one. The results for one of us were as expected and the other was quite disappointed that their DNA was from a tiny area and not exotic at all

You might be surprised.

Buffalo Bill did visit round here with a group of Native Americans, so it's actually not completely out of the realms of fantasy

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Hello, I hope this helps. I did a DNA test through My Heritage aboit 8 yeard ago,and received my results in around 5-6 weeks.

Furthermore I also receive emails from My Heritage with suggestions for relatives already on their database.

And it is possible to contact these people.

I hope this info helps, all the best."

That's very interesting.

I read part of an article on the Horsham Archaeology Facebook group written by someone bank has tested the dna of the remains of a family group from the area from the 8th and 9th centuries. The results show DNA from Nigeria as well as Europe

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By *viatrixWoman
over a year ago

Redhill

My middle child had one as a Christmas present. He came up as 64% European, 30% Native American- and they even pinpointed the exact tribe where my mother’s family is from! That was pretty cool and impressive.

Rest were little bits- even Senegalese!

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Yes we've both had one. The results for one of us were as expected and the other was quite disappointed that their DNA was from a tiny area and not exotic at all

You might be surprised.

Buffalo Bill did visit round here with a group of Native Americans, so it's actually not completely out of the realms of fantasy

Do you find yourself making moccasins I your spare time?

Frequently

And I'm not kidding about Buffalo Bill! Although actually, none of my family (at least not for several generations) are actually from around these parts. We're immigrants here too

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"My middle child had one as a Christmas present. He came up as 64% European, 30% Native American- and they even pinpointed the exact tribe where my mother’s family is from! That was pretty cool and impressive.

Rest were little bits- even Senegalese!

VERY Central American though

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By *viatrixWoman
over a year ago

Redhill

Also- as a side note- native americans are from Alaska/Canada all the way down to the Patagonia, so not just in the United States of America.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Yes we've both had one. The results for one of us were as expected and the other was quite disappointed that their DNA was from a tiny area and not exotic at all

You might be surprised.

Buffalo Bill did visit round here with a group of Native Americans, so it's actually not completely out of the realms of fantasy

Do you find yourself making moccasins I your spare time?

Frequently

And I'm not kidding about Buffalo Bill! Although actually, none of my family (at least not for several generations) are actually from around these parts. We're immigrants here too

One of us is European anyway, the other has 98% DNA from about a 60 mile radius. I suppose none of the ancestors owned a horse

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By *ovingSussexLife OP Man
over a year ago

West Sussex

"Yes we've both had one. The results for one of us were as expected and the other was quite disappointed that their DNA was from a tiny area and not exotic at all

You might be surprised.

Buffalo Bill did visit round here with a group of Native Americans, so it's actually not completely out of the realms of fantasy

Do you find yourself making moccasins I your spare time?

Frequently

And I'm not kidding about Buffalo Bill! Although actually, none of my family (at least not for several generations) are actually from around these parts. We're immigrants here too

One of us is European anyway, the other has 98% DNA from about a 60 mile radius. I suppose none of the ancestors owned a horse

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Yes we've both had one. The results for one of us were as expected and the other was quite disappointed that their DNA was from a tiny area and not exotic at all

You might be surprised.

Buffalo Bill did visit round here with a group of Native Americans, so it's actually not completely out of the realms of fantasy

Do you find yourself making moccasins I your spare time?

Frequently

And I'm not kidding about Buffalo Bill! Although actually, none of my family (at least not for several generations) are actually from around these parts. We're immigrants here too

One of us is European anyway, the other has 98% DNA from about a 60 mile radius. I suppose none of the ancestors owned a horse

There's definitely Sioux blood in Manchester!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/northwest/series9/week_three.shtml#:~:text=He%20created%20what%20became%20known,sell%20out%20crowds%20in%201888.

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By *viatrixWoman
over a year ago

Redhill

Rest were little bits- even Senegalese!

VERY Central American though

Funnily no! My mother is from a state where Navajo indians inhabited and mixed with the Seris, the local tribe. There were also the Mayo, who lived in Arizona and New Mexico… this is all North America. Central starts with Guatemala/Belize- and even that is disputed! Some people say it’s south of the Panama Canal…

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

Rest were little bits- even Senegalese!

VERY Central American though

Do you remember which company this was through?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Yes we've both had one. The results for one of us were as expected and the other was quite disappointed that their DNA was from a tiny area and not exotic at all

You might be surprised.

Buffalo Bill did visit round here with a group of Native Americans, so it's actually not completely out of the realms of fantasy

Do you find yourself making moccasins I your spare time?

Frequently

And I'm not kidding about Buffalo Bill! Although actually, none of my family (at least not for several generations) are actually from around these parts. We're immigrants here too

One of us is European anyway, the other has 98% DNA from about a 60 mile radius. I suppose none of the ancestors owned a horse

There's definitely Sioux blood in Manchester!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/northwest/series9/week_three.shtml#:~:text=He%20created%20what%20became%20known,sell%20out%20crowds%20in%201888."

That's really interesting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm tempted to get my mum one for xmas - her mum was S Irish and her father was Welsh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My sister did one so assumed I was pretty much the same and it pretty much said around 99% of our heritage was from north-west in in the Punjab region which is a little boring tbh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

One of Ellen's family did one. Apparently they're '100% Irish' despite having been born in England and one side of their family having no known Irish heritage.

I don't know how that works. I'm a bit sceptical about it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’d love to have one done. Following with interest.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think a lot of them are rubbish, almost a scam, although I'm sure there are credible ones.

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By *idnight RamblerMan
over a year ago

Pershore

Once you've had a DNA test, you are on searchable records forever, as are your genetic descendants. Maybe you don't care, but bear it in mind.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I did one, and I am 90% british, 7% swedish and denmark (I imagine vikings as most british people will have this) 2% jewish and 1% eastern european and russia.

I took from that that my ancesters were all a bit boring lol I was hoping for something exotic but alas, nothing I am just British.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I'd not do them due to the loss of privacy and giving my data to corporations to monetizem

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"Yes we've both had one. The results for one of us were as expected and the other was quite disappointed that their DNA was from a tiny area and not exotic at all

Oy vey

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

My 30 year old daughter did one! She found it interesting! She was convinced she was switched at birth and was going to find I wernt her mum and have rich parents somewhere! Lmfao!!

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Mine was as expected. Hang on i will fish it out on my phone ........

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Mine was as expected. Hang on i will fish it out on my phone ........

Are you 100% Scouse? Made of tough old meat and spuds?! *Scarpers*

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

local, but not too local

"Once you've had a DNA test, you are on searchable records forever, as are your genetic descendants. Maybe you don't care, but bear it in mind."

I find this fascinating, but the above is the reason I haven’t done it yet.

Maybe one day I’ll do one on impulse.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Mine was as expected. Hang on i will fish it out on my phone ........

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Here I go .....

Northwestern European 99.0%

British and Irish 78.5%

Scandanavian 9.0%

French and German 7.3%

Broadly N.W.Eu... 4.2%

Southern European 1.0%

Spanish and Portuguese 1.0%

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Mine was as expected. Hang on i will fish it out on my phone ........

Are you 100% Scouse? Made of tough old meat and spuds?! *Scarpers*

I'm a Brummy ....... Brummy born of Brummy parents.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Mine was as expected. Hang on i will fish it out on my phone ........

Are you 100% Scouse? Made of tough old meat and spuds?! *Scarpers*

I'm a Brummy ....... Brummy born of Brummy parents."

I know, but I couldn't make a tough meat comment without the Scouse

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

local, but not too local

“British and Irish” is a bit bloody vague.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Once you've had a DNA test, you are on searchable records forever, as are your genetic descendants. Maybe you don't care, but bear it in mind.

I find this fascinating, but the above is the reason I haven’t done it yet.

Maybe one day I’ll do one on impulse. "

I discovered nothing

They keep finding my living relatives and telling me that I have a cousin 0.00000000004 times removed in outer mongolia ..... okay it's america but pfffffft

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"“British and Irish” is a bit bloody vague. "

If you pay more, they could probably dig deeper but there's been so much intermingled and migration within the UK and Ireland that actually, we're pretty similar.......

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Mine was as expected. Hang on i will fish it out on my phone ........

Are you 100% Scouse? Made of tough old meat and spuds?! *Scarpers*

I'm a Brummy ....... Brummy born of Brummy parents.

I know, but I couldn't make a tough meat comment without the Scouse

I left Brum when I was 2. I just say I'm a brummy when the scouse comment comes up

True though. That's where I visit. That's where my rellies are.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Mine was as expected. Hang on i will fish it out on my phone ........

Are you 100% Scouse? Made of tough old meat and spuds?! *Scarpers*

I'm a Brummy ....... Brummy born of Brummy parents.

I know, but I couldn't make a tough meat comment without the Scouse

I left Brum when I was 2. I just say I'm a brummy when the scouse comment comes up

True though. That's where I visit. That's where my rellies are."

You've probably absorbed some Scouseness through your skin

I don't have a place to visit. Hardly any relatives and the ones I have are scattered hither and thither. I'm from nowhere

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Mine was as expected. Hang on i will fish it out on my phone ........

Are you 100% Scouse? Made of tough old meat and spuds?! *Scarpers*

Oi I resemble that remark..

Half Welsh and half Irish but pure Scouse, now a woolie I suppose..

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"“British and Irish” is a bit bloody vague. "

It's not vague. I didn't expect them to say oh ..... Jamie Killklarny of ballybollcks had Rosie Jones over the barrels in the apple market in Chester in 1954.

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By *aptain Caveman41Man
over a year ago

Home

"One of Ellen's family did one. Apparently they're '100% Irish' despite having been born in England and one side of their family having no known Irish heritage.

I don't know how that works. I'm a bit sceptical about it."
ya right even the Irish aren't 100% Irish unless you were born to a celtic family from the first settlers of ireland

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Mine was as expected. Hang on i will fish it out on my phone ........

Are you 100% Scouse? Made of tough old meat and spuds?! *Scarpers*

Oi I resemble that remark..

Half Welsh and half Irish but pure Scouse, now a woolie I suppose.."

Total Wooly ...... prob got clogs on as we speak

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

local, but not too local

"“British and Irish” is a bit bloody vague.

If you pay more, they could probably dig deeper but there's been so much intermingled and migration within the UK and Ireland that actually, we're pretty similar......."

Dunno about that, given the waves of invasion we’ve had you’ve got Celts, Picts, Saxons, Vikings, Normans…

I suspect I’ve got Welsh or Irish ancestry and would love to know more. Can’t seem to get much further back than the early 1800s through genealogy.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"“British and Irish” is a bit bloody vague. "

Is British even a thing? Aren't we all heinz 57 varieties?

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

local, but not too local

"It's not vague. "

It is though, we have some genes which can easily be traced to tribes/races going back into antiquity.

I’m not totally convinced by the science.

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

local, but not too local

"Is British even a thing? Aren't we all heinz 57 varieties? "

Exactly!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Mine was as expected. Hang on i will fish it out on my phone ........

Are you 100% Scouse? Made of tough old meat and spuds?! *Scarpers*

Oi I resemble that remark..

Half Welsh and half Irish but pure Scouse, now a woolie I suppose..

Total Wooly ...... prob got clogs on as we speak"

Sandals no socks..

Clogs is the posh one eyed city types I think, very middle class..

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By *elaninMaverickWoman
over a year ago

near Putney Heath

"My 30 year old daughter did one! She found it interesting! She was convinced she was switched at birth and was going to find I wernt her mum and have rich parents somewhere! Lmfao!!

Lol! Brutal. I'd rather keep my parents...I don't need any more traumatic shocks..like discovering I'm adopted or baby snatched/baby switched!

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"“British and Irish” is a bit bloody vague.

If you pay more, they could probably dig deeper but there's been so much intermingled and migration within the UK and Ireland that actually, we're pretty similar.......

Dunno about that, given the waves of invasion we’ve had you’ve got Celts, Picts, Saxons, Vikings, Normans…

I suspect I’ve got Welsh or Irish ancestry and would love to know more. Can’t seem to get much further back than the early 1800s through genealogy. "

If you don't mind trudging to parish churches, you might be able to get back into the 18th or even 17th century. I've got back to the mid 1700s in some cases. There's no coherent record of births, aside baptism records, prior to the 1820s in England. My Dutch ancestry was a piece of the proverbial to trace because the Dutch have very efficient records, as do the Jewish community. Adolf kept records too, unfortunately

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

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If you don't mind trudging to parish churches,"

My parents hit a dead end where a churchyard was consumed by the local river (!) and weren’t able to get back any further. Sadly there were a lot of spelling variations and other confusions.

My Dad is having another crack at it, bless ‘I’m, so I’m going to see if I can help any.

Thankfully we haven’t hit any horror stories beyond a midwife being struck off.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

If you don't mind trudging to parish churches,

My parents hit a dead end where a churchyard was consumed by the local river (!) and weren’t able to get back any further. Sadly there were a lot of spelling variations and other confusions.

My Dad is having another crack at it, bless ‘I’m, so I’m going to see if I can help any.

Thankfully we haven’t hit any horror stories beyond a midwife being struck off. "

In my non British history, we have Holocaust stuff unfortunately. We've got a lot of info about that side of the family and found relatives who survived after being hidden as children etc.

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By *aptain Caveman41Man
over a year ago

Home

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I've not done one, I'm not comfortable giving my DNA away. The one I know people have done, it shows degrees of connection to people who have also done theirs.

I'd really like to know the point at which all my emigrating ancestors entered Australia, and where they came from before that. British colonial records are excellent, British ones pretty good, mostly Irish and other that fall over.

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By *aptain Caveman41Man
over a year ago

Home

Its extremely hard to trace the family tree in ireland because most of our records have been lost in the war of independence

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"One of Ellen's family did one. Apparently they're '100% Irish' despite having been born in England and one side of their family having no known Irish heritage.

I don't know how that works. I'm a bit sceptical about it.ya right even the Irish aren't 100% Irish unless you were born to a celtic family from the first settlers of ireland "

Thing is he travels on an Irish passport now

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Its extremely hard to trace the family tree in ireland because most of our records have been lost in the war of independence "

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By *aptain Caveman41Man
over a year ago

Home

"One of Ellen's family did one. Apparently they're '100% Irish' despite having been born in England and one side of their family having no known Irish heritage.

I don't know how that works. I'm a bit sceptical about it.ya right even the Irish aren't 100% Irish unless you were born to a celtic family from the first settlers of ireland

Thing is he travels on an Irish passport now

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that doesn't make you Irish

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"One of Ellen's family did one. Apparently they're '100% Irish' despite having been born in England and one side of their family having no known Irish heritage.

I don't know how that works. I'm a bit sceptical about it.ya right even the Irish aren't 100% Irish unless you were born to a celtic family from the first settlers of ireland

Thing is he travels on an Irish passport now

that doesn't make you Irish "

Does it not?

Irish passport, Irish citizenship - Irish. Surely.

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over a year ago

"One of Ellen's family did one. Apparently they're '100% Irish' despite having been born in England and one side of their family having no known Irish heritage.

I don't know how that works. I'm a bit sceptical about it.ya right even the Irish aren't 100% Irish unless you were born to a celtic family from the first settlers of ireland

Thing is he travels on an Irish passport now

that doesn't make you Irish "

Thanks Captain Obvious

Was kinda my whole point.

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over a year ago

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I had one done as research being done to a medical condition I have. Dupuytren’s .

My Father English , Mother Welsh. From part research of family surname. From fathers side. Irish descent. My result came back showing that somewhere back I have Scandinavian descent. I has as a child very blond hair ( now grey ) plus blue eyes.

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By *aptain Caveman41Man
over a year ago

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"One of Ellen's family did one. Apparently they're '100% Irish' despite having been born in England and one side of their family having no known Irish heritage.

I don't know how that works. I'm a bit sceptical about it.ya right even the Irish aren't 100% Irish unless you were born to a celtic family from the first settlers of ireland

Thing is he travels on an Irish passport now

that doesn't make you Irish

Does it not?

Irish passport, Irish citizenship - Irish. Surely."
no unless you are born in Ireland you can't call yourself Irish that's how nationality works. Your nationality is the place where you were born.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

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"One of Ellen's family did one. Apparently they're '100% Irish' despite having been born in England and one side of their family having no known Irish heritage.

I don't know how that works. I'm a bit sceptical about it.ya right even the Irish aren't 100% Irish unless you were born to a celtic family from the first settlers of ireland

Thing is he travels on an Irish passport now

that doesn't make you Irish

Does it not?

Irish passport, Irish citizenship - Irish. Surely.no unless you are born in Ireland you can't call yourself Irish that's how nationality works. Your nationality is the place where you were born. "

Nationality and genetic heritage are not the same thing. If I have enough money, I can acquire the passport of a number of countries but I will always remain ethnically British/Jewish. Just look at all the "former Ethiopians" running for Qatar and other countries. They have acquired passports but remain ethnically African.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

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"One of Ellen's family did one. Apparently they're '100% Irish' despite having been born in England and one side of their family having no known Irish heritage.

I don't know how that works. I'm a bit sceptical about it.ya right even the Irish aren't 100% Irish unless you were born to a celtic family from the first settlers of ireland

Thing is he travels on an Irish passport now

that doesn't make you Irish

Does it not?

Irish passport, Irish citizenship - Irish. Surely.no unless you are born in Ireland you can't call yourself Irish that's how nationality works. Your nationality is the place where you were born. "

Hmm. I don't think it's that simple.

(And I get told I'm British all the time. I was born in western Sydney. Meanwhile Sunak was born in Southampton and I saw someone recently claim he's not British)

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

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"One of Ellen's family did one. Apparently they're '100% Irish' despite having been born in England and one side of their family having no known Irish heritage.

I don't know how that works. I'm a bit sceptical about it.ya right even the Irish aren't 100% Irish unless you were born to a celtic family from the first settlers of ireland

Thing is he travels on an Irish passport now

that doesn't make you Irish

Does it not?

Irish passport, Irish citizenship - Irish. Surely.no unless you are born in Ireland you can't call yourself Irish that's how nationality works. Your nationality is the place where you were born.

Hmm. I don't think it's that simple.

(And I get told I'm British all the time. I was born in western Sydney. Meanwhile Sunak was born in Southampton and I saw someone recently claim he's not British)"

He failed the cricket team test

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By *aptain Caveman41Man
over a year ago

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"One of Ellen's family did one. Apparently they're '100% Irish' despite having been born in England and one side of their family having no known Irish heritage.

I don't know how that works. I'm a bit sceptical about it.ya right even the Irish aren't 100% Irish unless you were born to a celtic family from the first settlers of ireland

Thing is he travels on an Irish passport now

that doesn't make you Irish

Does it not?

Irish passport, Irish citizenship - Irish. Surely.no unless you are born in Ireland you can't call yourself Irish that's how nationality works. Your nationality is the place where you were born.

Hmm. I don't think it's that simple.

(And I get told I'm British all the time. I was born in western Sydney. Meanwhile Sunak was born in Southampton and I saw someone recently claim he's not British)"
well you are Australian by birth. I don't understand why people are embarrassed by their nationality that they have to say that they are from another country.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

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"One of Ellen's family did one. Apparently they're '100% Irish' despite having been born in England and one side of their family having no known Irish heritage.

I don't know how that works. I'm a bit sceptical about it.ya right even the Irish aren't 100% Irish unless you were born to a celtic family from the first settlers of ireland

Thing is he travels on an Irish passport now

that doesn't make you Irish

Does it not?

Irish passport, Irish citizenship - Irish. Surely.no unless you are born in Ireland you can't call yourself Irish that's how nationality works. Your nationality is the place where you were born.

Hmm. I don't think it's that simple.

(And I get told I'm British all the time. I was born in western Sydney. Meanwhile Sunak was born in Southampton and I saw someone recently claim he's not British)

He failed the cricket team test"

My living in the UK test, the first question was about the Ashes. I nearly pissed myself laughing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"He failed the cricket team test"

More likely the green card test.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

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"One of Ellen's family did one. Apparently they're '100% Irish' despite having been born in England and one side of their family having no known Irish heritage.

I don't know how that works. I'm a bit sceptical about it.ya right even the Irish aren't 100% Irish unless you were born to a celtic family from the first settlers of ireland

Thing is he travels on an Irish passport now

that doesn't make you Irish

Does it not?

Irish passport, Irish citizenship - Irish. Surely.no unless you are born in Ireland you can't call yourself Irish that's how nationality works. Your nationality is the place where you were born.

Hmm. I don't think it's that simple.

(And I get told I'm British all the time. I was born in western Sydney. Meanwhile Sunak was born in Southampton and I saw someone recently claim he's not British)well you are Australian by birth. I don't understand why people are embarrassed by their nationality that they have to say that they are from another country. "

I know I'm Australian. If I sought British citizenship I could become British, to my mind. As well as Australian.

Some people renounce their citizenship. That American media tycoon from South Australia, for example.

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over a year ago

Brb

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By *aptain Caveman41Man
over a year ago

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"One of Ellen's family did one. Apparently they're '100% Irish' despite having been born in England and one side of their family having no known Irish heritage.

I don't know how that works. I'm a bit sceptical about it.ya right even the Irish aren't 100% Irish unless you were born to a celtic family from the first settlers of ireland

Thing is he travels on an Irish passport now

that doesn't make you Irish

Does it not?

Irish passport, Irish citizenship - Irish. Surely.no unless you are born in Ireland you can't call yourself Irish that's how nationality works. Your nationality is the place where you were born.

Hmm. I don't think it's that simple.

I know I'm Australian. If I sought British citizenship I could become British, to my mind. As well as Australian.

Some people renounce their citizenship. That American media tycoon from South Australia, for example."
citizenship and nationality are not the same. I can become an American citizen but my nationality is still Irish.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

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"Brb"

Have you gone to seek a new passport?

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over a year ago

The best but about getting a DNA test is all the weird things you have, apparently there’s a ‘love coriander or hate coriander’ gene and a ‘love white wine’ gene.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

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"One of Ellen's family did one. Apparently they're '100% Irish' despite having been born in England and one side of their family having no known Irish heritage.

I don't know how that works. I'm a bit sceptical about it.ya right even the Irish aren't 100% Irish unless you were born to a celtic family from the first settlers of ireland

Thing is he travels on an Irish passport now

that doesn't make you Irish

Does it not?

Irish passport, Irish citizenship - Irish. Surely.no unless you are born in Ireland you can't call yourself Irish that's how nationality works. Your nationality is the place where you were born.

Hmm. I don't think it's that simple.

I know I'm Australian. If I sought British citizenship I could become British, to my mind. As well as Australian.

Some people renounce their citizenship. That American media tycoon from South Australia, for example.citizenship and nationality are not the same. I can become an American citizen but my nationality is still Irish. "

I don't agree, and I'm not going to agree.

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

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"The best but about getting a DNA test is all the weird things you have, apparently there’s a ‘love coriander or hate coriander’ gene and a ‘love white wine’ gene.

Earlobes!

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By *aptain Caveman41Man
over a year ago

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"One of Ellen's family did one. Apparently they're '100% Irish' despite having been born in England and one side of their family having no known Irish heritage.

I don't know how that works. I'm a bit sceptical about it.ya right even the Irish aren't 100% Irish unless you were born to a celtic family from the first settlers of ireland

Thing is he travels on an Irish passport now

that doesn't make you Irish

Does it not?

Irish passport, Irish citizenship - Irish. Surely.no unless you are born in Ireland you can't call yourself Irish that's how nationality works. Your nationality is the place where you were born.

Hmm. I don't think it's that simple.

I know I'm Australian. If I sought British citizenship I could become British, to my mind. As well as Australian.

I don't agree, and I'm not going to agree."
thats up to you but you're wrong bye now

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over a year ago

What about when your country of birth changes name or governance. What's your nationality then?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

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"What about when your country of birth changes name or governance. What's your nationality then?"

I think you just become a citizen of the Earth and get a nice flat passport to match

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

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"What about when your country of birth changes name or governance. What's your nationality then?"

I'm inclined to accept people where they've taken concrete steps to live. Where someone is born says nothing about who they are.

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By *aptain Caveman41Man
over a year ago

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"What about when your country of birth changes name or governance. What's your nationality then?"
country names don't change. If you are born in a country your nationality is that country I was born on the island of Ireland that makes me Irish

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

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"What about when your country of birth changes name or governance. What's your nationality then?country names don't change. If you are born in a country your nationality is that country I was born on the island of Ireland that makes me Irish "

East Timor.

Burma

Rhodesia

Ceylon

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

uh?!

You never got out from that cave?

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By *aptain Caveman41Man
over a year ago

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uh?!

You never got out from that cave?"
what the f is that meant to mean

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By *aptain Caveman41Man
over a year ago

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East Timor.

Burma

Rhodesia

Ceylon"
we are not going to agree with eachother so don't bother

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

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uh?!

You never got out from that cave?"

If country names never change... Ireland wasn't always a country, right?

And I suppose I was born on the mythical terra Australis with the dinosaurs on the early maps of explorers?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

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East Timor.

Burma

Rhodesia

Ceylonwe are not going to agree with eachother so don't bother "

These are countries that have changed their names. Hope this helps

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

uh?!

You never got out from that cave?what the f is that meant to mean "

It means you live on an island where people claim multiple nationalities but according to you there can be only one.

It means countries change names and boundaries constantly.

It means there are loads of people who are born in one place only for that place to change.

It means you should get out from the cave ever so now and again. Or are you captain of some other cave?

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By *aptain Caveman41Man
over a year ago

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East Timor.

Burma

Rhodesia

Ceylonwe are not going to agree with eachother so don't bother

These are countries that have changed their names. Hope this helps "
so has Ireland

Hibernia

Eire

Ireland

Its still ireland though isn't it. You can change the name of a country all you want it didn't move did it. Its still the same country just a different name.

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over a year ago

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East Timor.

Burma

Rhodesia

Ceylonwe are not going to agree with eachother so don't bother

These are countries that have changed their names. Hope this helps so has Ireland

Hibernia

Eire

Ireland

Its still ireland though isn't it. You can change the name of a country all you want it didn't move did it. Its still the same country just a different name. "

Some countries have been recently invented, like South Sudan.

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

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"Its still ireland though isn't it. You can change the name of a country all you want it didn't move did it. Its still the same country just a different name. "

And a nearby country partitioned it into two.

Similar to what it did to India.

Nationalities changed but ancestry/heritage did not.

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"Its still ireland though isn't it. You can change the name of a country all you want it didn't move did it. Its still the same country just a different name. "

To be fair I was wondering similar. As in how far back do you go for it to be your true heritage.

The people on Ireland came from somewhere else if you go back far enough.

Do your ancestors need to have stayed in a place for a certain amount of time for it to be your heritage? etc. etc.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

East Timor.

Burma

Rhodesia

Ceylonwe are not going to agree with eachother so don't bother

These are countries that have changed their names. Hope this helps so has Ireland

Hibernia

Eire

Ireland

Its still ireland though isn't it. You can change the name of a country all you want it didn't move did it. Its still the same country just a different name. "

You said yourself country names don't change.

And no, I don't think they are. The US isn't a British colony, Australia is no longer a land continuing the indigenous Dreaming, India is no longer a colony of a British business.

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By *aptain Caveman41Man
over a year ago

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uh?!

You never got out from that cave?what the f is that meant to mean

It means you live on an island where people claim multiple nationalities but according to you there can be only one.

It means countries change names and boundaries constantly.

It means there are loads of people who are born in one place only for that place to change.

It means you should get out from the cave ever so now and again. Or are you captain of some other cave?"
there's piles of difference nationalities living in Ireland I'm friends with loads of them many of them are Irish citizens. But they are from different countries so their nationalities aren't Irish. If you are not born in Ireland your not Irish its not rocket science.

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

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You’d be able to go to Statesville, point at people and shout ‘Get arffff moi laaaaand!’ In a weird West Country/American accent

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By *aptain Caveman41Man
over a year ago

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East Timor.

Burma

Rhodesia

Ceylonwe are not going to agree with eachother so don't bother

These are countries that have changed their names. Hope this helps so has Ireland

Hibernia

Eire

Ireland

Its still ireland though isn't it. You can change the name of a country all you want it didn't move did it. Its still the same country just a different name.

You said yourself country names don't change.

And no, I don't think they are. The US isn't a British colony, Australia is no longer a land continuing the indigenous Dreaming, India is no longer a colony of a British business."
its still America, Australia and India correct me if I'm wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

uh?!

You never got out from that cave?what the f is that meant to mean

It means you live on an island where people claim multiple nationalities but according to you there can be only one.

It means countries change names and boundaries constantly.

It means there are loads of people who are born in one place only for that place to change.

It means you should get out from the cave ever so now and again. Or are you captain of some other cave?there's piles of difference nationalities living in Ireland I'm friends with loads of them many of them are Irish citizens. But they are from different countries so their nationalities aren't Irish. If you are not born in Ireland your not Irish its not rocket science. "

So if a child is born in Germany to Irish parents who just happened to be on holiday in Germany... the child is German?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

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East Timor.

Burma

Rhodesia

Ceylonwe are not going to agree with eachother so don't bother

These are countries that have changed their names. Hope this helps so has Ireland

Hibernia

Eire

Ireland

Its still ireland though isn't it. You can change the name of a country all you want it didn't move did it. Its still the same country just a different name.

You said yourself country names don't change.

And no, I don't think they are. The US isn't a British colony, Australia is no longer a land continuing the indigenous Dreaming, India is no longer a colony of a British business.its still America, Australia and India correct me if I'm wrong. "

If you define a country as only a land mass. I think that's an impoverished view of the world.

Also, *you* said names don't change.

Terra Australis, colony of New South Wales, Australia. Three name changes, for a place that was the place of myth and magical dragons until at least the 1500s

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By *aptain Caveman41Man
over a year ago

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uh?!

You never got out from that cave?what the f is that meant to mean

It means you live on an island where people claim multiple nationalities but according to you there can be only one.

It means countries change names and boundaries constantly.

It means there are loads of people who are born in one place only for that place to change.

So if a child is born in Germany to Irish parents who just happened to be on holiday in Germany... the child is German?"
technically ya because that childs birth certificate will say place of birth Germany.

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uh?!

You never got out from that cave?what the f is that meant to mean

It means you live on an island where people claim multiple nationalities but according to you there can be only one.

It means countries change names and boundaries constantly.

It means there are loads of people who are born in one place only for that place to change.

So if a child is born in Germany to Irish parents who just happened to be on holiday in Germany... the child is German?technically ya because that childs birth certificate will say place of birth Germany. "

What if it said West Germany but then David Hasselhoff knocked down a wall?

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

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"So if a child is born in Germany to Irish parents who just happened to be on holiday in Germany... the child is German?"

That’s how it works. And if born in international waters you get to choose.

In reality you’d get the child repatriated or face a lifetime of grief and bureaucracy.

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over a year ago

uh?!

You never got out from that cave?what the f is that meant to mean

It means you live on an island where people claim multiple nationalities but according to you there can be only one.

It means countries change names and boundaries constantly.

It means there are loads of people who are born in one place only for that place to change.

So if a child is born in Germany to Irish parents who just happened to be on holiday in Germany... the child is German?"

I wonder if this is why its not recommended to fly after a certain point in a pregnancy lol

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By *aptain Caveman41Man
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East Timor.

Burma

Rhodesia

Ceylonwe are not going to agree with eachother so don't bother

These are countries that have changed their names. Hope this helps so has Ireland

Hibernia

Eire

Ireland

Its still ireland though isn't it. You can change the name of a country all you want it didn't move did it. Its still the same country just a different name.

You said yourself country names don't change.

If you define a country as only a land mass. I think that's an impoverished view of the world.

Also, *you* said names don't change.

Terra Australis, colony of New South Wales, Australia. Three name changes, for a place that was the place of myth and magical dragons until at least the 1500s

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we are done

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"I wonder if this is why its not recommended to fly after a certain point in a pregnancy lol"

To save the risk of having the nationality 'Easyjet'

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

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"Its still ireland though isn't it. You can change the name of a country all you want it didn't move did it. Its still the same country just a different name.

To be fair I was wondering similar. As in how far back do you go for it to be your true heritage.

The people on Ireland came from somewhere else if you go back far enough.

Do your ancestors need to have stayed in a place for a certain amount of time for it to be your heritage? etc. etc."

What is true heritage? Like it or not, we are all genetically mixed, especially if we are British, Irish, Australian, American etc. This is due to the extensive invasion, colonisation, migration and other intermingling of ethnic groups over the years. No-one in the UK will be 100% ethnically Celtic, for example, because there's simply been too much mixing since the Roman invasion and beyond.

White Australians and Americans have European DNA heritage but of vastly different origins, e.g. Germanic, British, Irish, Jewish.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

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"So if a child is born in Germany to Irish parents who just happened to be on holiday in Germany... the child is German?

That’s how it works. And if born in international waters you get to choose.

In reality you’d get the child repatriated or face a lifetime of grief and bureaucracy. "

If my parents had had me in London (where they lived when Mum fell pregnant), I would not have been British, because I was born after 1982.

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

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" India correct me if I'm wrong. "

India became India, Pakistan, and ultimately Bangladesh within living memory.

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By *JB1954Man
over a year ago

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There are sports people who say born in England. But choose country to represent. As one parent say English, other parent from another country.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Its still ireland though isn't it. You can change the name of a country all you want it didn't move did it. Its still the same country just a different name.

To be fair I was wondering similar. As in how far back do you go for it to be your true heritage.

The people on Ireland came from somewhere else if you go back far enough.

Do your ancestors need to have stayed in a place for a certain amount of time for it to be your heritage? etc. etc.

White Australians and Americans have European DNA heritage but of vastly different origins, e.g. Germanic, British, Irish, Jewish."

Yes.

I'm told I'm European and I have a fucking problem with this.

European heritage? Yes. Am I European? Fuck no.

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

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"I would not have been British, because I was born after 1982."

I knew you’d come along and beat me with lived experience

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"Its still ireland though isn't it. You can change the name of a country all you want it didn't move did it. Its still the same country just a different name.

To be fair I was wondering similar. As in how far back do you go for it to be your true heritage.

The people on Ireland came from somewhere else if you go back far enough.

Do your ancestors need to have stayed in a place for a certain amount of time for it to be your heritage? etc. etc.

White Australians and Americans have European DNA heritage but of vastly different origins, e.g. Germanic, British, Irish, Jewish."

I read somewhere that many of us have a little Neanderthal in us.

Or maybe that was just what Ellen said when I refused to dry the dishes.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

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We need to clearly delineate ethnicity/DNA heritage from which passport a person holds. The two are totally separate.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

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"I would not have been British, because I was born after 1982.

I knew you’d come along and beat me with lived experience

I actually found that out when someone argued that Sunak isn't British.

He was born in Southampton before the cutoff date. He's British automatically.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

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"We need to clearly delineate ethnicity/DNA heritage from which passport a person holds. The two are totally separate."

I hope we live in a world where it mostly doesn't matter

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

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"I read somewhere that many of us have a little Neanderthal in us."

If any of us do, then we all do.

You don’t have to go very far back for this to apply. See Genghis Khan.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

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"We need to clearly delineate ethnicity/DNA heritage from which passport a person holds. The two are totally separate.

I hope we live in a world where it mostly doesn't matter

It definitely doesn't matter but saying someone can't be nationality X because they were born in place Y doesn't work, when it's possible to switch nationality.

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over a year ago

Mayfair

I loathe these types of threads where, in order to remain inclusive, I feel compelled to declare my 'dunasteia' lineage.

And in doing so it scuppers my chances of getting laid in this place.

I'm from Narnia, tinged with a little Middle-Earth. Now you know.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"We need to clearly delineate ethnicity/DNA heritage from which passport a person holds. The two are totally separate.

I hope we live in a world where it mostly doesn't matter

It definitely doesn't matter but saying someone can't be nationality X because they were born in place Y doesn't work, when it's possible to switch nationality. "

Absolutely.

Although it's an utter nonsense given Murdoch hasn't been an Australian citizen in my lifetime.

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

local, but not too local

I think folk get confused by the American rules about place of birth as eligibility for presidency - Obama’s birth certificate etc.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"I loathe these types of threads where, in order to remain inclusive, I feel compelled to declare my 'dunasteia' lineage.

And in doing so it scuppers my chances of getting laid in this place.

I'm from Narnia, tinged with a little Middle-Earth. Now you know."

I'm from nowhere in particular

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By *eroLondonMan
over a year ago

Mayfair

"I loathe these types of threads where, in order to remain inclusive, I feel compelled to declare my 'dunasteia' lineage.

And in doing so it scuppers my chances of getting laid in this place.

I'm from Narnia, tinged with a little Middle-Earth. Now you know.

I'm from nowhere in particular

You're my Universe KC².

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I think folk get confused by the American rules about place of birth as eligibility for presidency - Obama’s birth certificate etc. "

Indeed.

(Side note, you have to renounce other allegiance when entering Australian parliament - Julia Gillard, born in Wales, did so despite Tony Abbott hounding her that she hadn't. He was born in London, I think, and no one asked him to prove he renounced that I recall)

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By *eroLondonMan
over a year ago

Mayfair

"I think folk get confused by the American rules about place of birth as eligibility for presidency - Obama’s birth certificate etc.

Indeed.

She's from Tasmania... ^

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I think folk get confused by the American rules about place of birth as eligibility for presidency - Obama’s birth certificate etc.

Indeed.

She's from Tasmania... ^

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FFS

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By *thfloorCouple
over a year ago

Hove

"One of Ellen's family did one. Apparently they're '100% Irish' despite having been born in England and one side of their family having no known Irish heritage.

I don't know how that works. I'm a bit sceptical about it.ya right even the Irish aren't 100% Irish unless you were born to a celtic family from the first settlers of ireland

Thing is he travels on an Irish passport now

that doesn't make you Irish

Does it not?

Irish passport, Irish citizenship - Irish. Surely.no unless you are born in Ireland you can't call yourself Irish that's how nationality works. Your nationality is the place where you were born. "

AFAIK in the UK becoming a citizen via naturalisation also grants British nationality. In the US becoming a citizen doesn't grant you nationality. Perhaps Ireland's citizenship for foreigners is the latter also, or it has very strict definition of who is eligible for Irish nationality - eg. Born in the republic of Ireland like you have argued. You can't extrapolate that this is the general rule or law about citizenship vs nationality though. Different countries have different immigration laws and definitions, and even these laws change, sometimes at VERY fast pace (months, not years). And yes country names and even borders chance too

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"One of Ellen's family did one. Apparently they're '100% Irish' despite having been born in England and one side of their family having no known Irish heritage.

I don't know how that works. I'm a bit sceptical about it.ya right even the Irish aren't 100% Irish unless you were born to a celtic family from the first settlers of ireland

Thing is he travels on an Irish passport now

that doesn't make you Irish

Does it not?

Irish passport, Irish citizenship - Irish. Surely.no unless you are born in Ireland you can't call yourself Irish that's how nationality works. Your nationality is the place where you were born.

You can apply for an Irish passport if you have Irish Grandparents.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Its extremely hard to trace the family tree in ireland because most of our records have been lost in the war of independence "

If I remember rightly it was in fact in the Irish Civil War when the Irish Free State forces shelled the IRA in the Four Courts in Dublin?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can claim the nationality of your grandparents even if you have never visited that country.

So surely nationality is down to genetics aswell as where you were born.

My husband can claim a Belguim passport if he wished, even though he was born in England and so were both his parents

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"You can claim the nationality of your grandparents even if you have never visited that country.

So surely nationality is down to genetics aswell as where you were born.

My husband can claim a Belguim passport if he wished, even though he was born in England and so were both his parents "

My Dad could claim an Israeli passport, simply because his Grandad was Jewish. His Grandad never set foot in Israel....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So if a child is born in Germany to Irish parents who just happened to be on holiday in Germany... the child is German?

That’s how it works. And if born in international waters you get to choose.

In reality you’d get the child repatriated or face a lifetime of grief and bureaucracy. "

My brother was born in Germany while his father and my mother lived there as his father served in the army. His birth certificate says German, but he has always been a British national. The only time it became an issue was after Brexit, where at a job interview he was asked place of birth and told he would have to prove his entitlement to stay and work in the UK!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You can claim the nationality of your grandparents even if you have never visited that country.

So surely nationality is down to genetics aswell as where you were born.

My husband can claim a Belguim passport if he wished, even though he was born in England and so were both his parents

My Dad could claim an Israeli passport, simply because his Grandad was Jewish. His Grandad never set foot in Israel...."

Shamima Begum is a good example. She was born a British citizen but has (rightly or wrongly) been stripped of her citizenship and told to become a citizen of Bangladesh, even though she has never stepped foot in the country

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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago

South Wales

Nope, I’d like to though, just never gotten around to it.

I never knew until this year that there is Scottish in the bloodline here.

My gramp was a Yorkshireman but his mum (who passed away when he was a kid) was Scottish. I never knew that until recently!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The only time it became an issue was after Brexit, where at a job interview he was asked place of birth and told he would have to prove his entitlement to stay and work in the UK! "

That's crazy!

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

Is he an Arab though.?

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