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"I use the word 'fat' to describe my body. I don't see it as negative, derogatory or even self-deprecating. It's what I am. I don't think using 'curvy' makes a difference to the people who fat shame. They just roll their eyes at a euphemism aand call us fat anyway. I defend using fat as an accurate term. Is there a defence that makes it sexy too? " You don’t need to defend anything nor for that matter qualify you being. | |||
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"I’m the same. I think using the word “fat” doesn’t always mean it’s derogatory. If someone was purposely trying to hurt my feelings and insult me then yeah, fat is a derogatory word. If I’m describing myself to someone then no. It’s just a factual statement. I can’t actually call myself curvy because, for a big girl, my bum and my boobs aren’t all that big. So it’s hard to know what words to use lol " Do you only not mind calling yourself fat, just not someone else doing it? Purely curious. I got a message the other day saying 'I like chunky' girls, it pissed me off, just because I don't want to be seen as chunky..I didn't think he was trying to be rude. | |||
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"I use the word 'fat' to describe my body. I don't see it as negative, derogatory or even self-deprecating. It's what I am. I don't think using 'curvy' makes a difference to the people who fat shame. They just roll their eyes at a euphemism aand call us fat anyway. I defend using fat as an accurate term. Is there a defence that makes it sexy too? " I think it’s all in the context. If it’s said in a negative way anything can be hurtful. | |||
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"I’m the same. I think using the word “fat” doesn’t always mean it’s derogatory. If someone was purposely trying to hurt my feelings and insult me then yeah, fat is a derogatory word. If I’m describing myself to someone then no. It’s just a factual statement. I can’t actually call myself curvy because, for a big girl, my bum and my boobs aren’t all that big. So it’s hard to know what words to use lol Do you only not mind calling yourself fat, just not someone else doing it? Purely curious. I got a message the other day saying 'I like chunky' girls, it pissed me off, just because I don't want to be seen as chunky..I didn't think he was trying to be rude." I think from strangers I wouldn’t like it. If I described myself as fat and then they replied with “I like fat girls” if be fine with it. I don’t mind words like chunky but I once got called “juicy” and instantly got pissed off for some reason hahah I just think strangers shouldn’t be commenting on someone’s weight. At least wait until you’ve built a sort of connection/relationship. Just my opinion anyway | |||
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"Mum bod." That would get you a kick in the balls if she’s not actually a mum | |||
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"Fat tits are sexy. Fat cock would be a compliment so why not?" | |||
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"Mum bod. That would get you a kick in the balls if she’s not actually a mum " | |||
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"When I over indulge I treat people to a quick truffle shuffle " I used to do that, but had to stop after sending too many glasses / tables / people flying across the room. | |||
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"Fat is a turn on to a lot of guys x they may marry a skinny girl but they play with girls with serious curves " Eh? | |||
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"I use it of myself, but wouldn't describe someone else that way. Personally, I think 'curvy' and 'fat' are not synonymous. A woman can be thin and curvy, imo." For sure I used to be very slim but curvy. | |||
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"I’m the same. I think using the word “fat” doesn’t always mean it’s derogatory. If someone was purposely trying to hurt my feelings and insult me then yeah, fat is a derogatory word. If I’m describing myself to someone then no. It’s just a factual statement. I can’t actually call myself curvy because, for a big girl, my bum and my boobs aren’t all that big. So it’s hard to know what words to use lol " Just had a look, curvy seems quite good...thems some fine curves and all in excellent proportion | |||
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"I'm fat. I call myself fat. It's almost as if the more we say it the more normal and less offence it causes. If I committed a crime I would be the fat brunette with cracking tits. However on insta alot of people dm me if I call myself fat and they are offended on my behalf which is really odd " I agree that the more we use it without offence we are more like to remove the stigma. I also get the messages to tell me that I shouldn't put myself down. | |||
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"I'm fat. I call myself fat. It's almost as if the more we say it the more normal and less offence it causes. If I committed a crime I would be the fat brunette with cracking tits. However on insta alot of people dm me if I call myself fat and they are offended on my behalf which is really odd I agree that the more we use it without offence we are more like to remove the stigma. I also get the messages to tell me that I shouldn't put myself down." Oh I love that ...oh you're not fat....yes babes I am lol! | |||
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"Love fat birds,get no waste,which is good for environment as well " Well, don't you flip-flop! | |||
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"People should call themselves what ever they wish and those engaging with them to follow their lead. Words can be used positively or negatively so all in the context really. Apologies if this has been said...too idle to read every post. " Lazy lady! | |||
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"I use it of myself, but wouldn't describe someone else that way. Personally, I think 'curvy' and 'fat' are not synonymous. A woman can be thin and curvy, imo." From my experience, most thin girls are not curvy and therefore resort to...um...enhancements. Boob jobs and BBLS...unfortunately... My personal trainer is very thin. She has no chest or ass. But she's fit. She ran the London Marathon and did Tough mudder. I'd say I'm fat and curvy. If I wasn't fat, my boobs would be gone. But genetically I've got a big black ass, no matter what size I am. It's rare to see someone who naturally has the bottle shape. Small waist with big boobs and a big ass/wide hips. It's an idealized version of womanhood. When I think about 100 women that I went to school with only about a handful (5 or so) had that bottle shape. | |||
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"I use the word 'fat' to describe my body. I don't see it as negative, derogatory or even self-deprecating. It's what I am. I don't think using 'curvy' makes a difference to the people who fat shame. They just roll their eyes at a euphemism aand call us fat anyway. I defend using fat as an accurate term. Is there a defence that makes it sexy too? " No excuse needed from a fellow fatty xxx | |||
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"I (male) am fat, however I think its also a behavioral trait. For example, some people are "fat" but eat sensibly walk, take the stairs. Others who are "fat" sit on the sofa eating family bags of sweets and crisps every night and claim they dislike fruit and veg." I'm a fat girl who can walk and swim and eat alot of fruit and veg and I weirdly adore salads lol! We are all so different x | |||
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"It's good to hear so many women and some of the guys are so comfortable with their bodies and their own self esteem on here about their body shape or size. But personally I think both on here and in the real world I will use the word curvy. Just afraid if I used the word fat to the wrong person I might end up with a broken jaw. " I hope it wouldn't get physically violent, but you're right. | |||
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"It's good to hear so many women and some of the guys are so comfortable with their bodies and their own self esteem on here about their body shape or size. But personally I think both on here and in the real world I will use the word curvy. Just afraid if I used the word fat to the wrong person I might end up with a broken jaw. " I am both of those people. I don't think I have enough skin to get fat enough to be two people. | |||
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"Fat and old are two honest words that have been stigmatised equally. Young and skinny haven't. Academics have written loads on this sort of thing." Skinny has. I don't think anyone would like to be called skinny, slim, yes, skinny, no. | |||
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"People have their preferences regardless of what it is, people shouldn’t shame, people shouldn’t mock, yet I can argue some people may try to persuade, help or simply inform, the term “fat” is also the same as the term “unhealthy”. Personally I would never attack someone for their appearance, but wish to motivate someone to take a step in the right direction. To become a better and healthier version of them selves " In no way do I mean any disrespect | |||
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"Fat and old are two honest words that have been stigmatised equally. Young and skinny haven't. Academics have written loads on this sort of thing." Oh, I think skinny gets a bashing too. The 'real women have curves (big tits/ass), comes into play as well... Bottom line is as a woman you'll probably get flack from either side. I'm not saying blokes don't either before anyone jumps on it. But women and their bodies have always been far more at the forefront of scrutiny and criticism whatever the current 'fashion' | |||
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"Fat and old are two honest words that have been stigmatised equally. Young and skinny haven't. Academics have written loads on this sort of thing. Skinny has. I don't think anyone would like to be called skinny, slim, yes, skinny, no. " Have you not heard of the Kate Moss quote "Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels."? There are some skinny-minny bashing in a few fab profiles. | |||
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"Fat and old are two honest words that have been stigmatised equally. Young and skinny haven't. Academics have written loads on this sort of thing. Oh, I think skinny gets a bashing too. The 'real women have curves (big tits/ass), comes into play as well... Bottom line is as a woman you'll probably get flack from either side. I'm not saying blokes don't either before anyone jumps on it. But women and their bodies have always been far more at the forefront of scrutiny and criticism whatever the current 'fashion' " "Don't read beauty magazines, they'll only make you feel ugly" Baz Lehrman. | |||
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"I use the word 'fat' to describe my body. I don't see it as negative, derogatory or even self-deprecating. It's what I am. I don't think using 'curvy' makes a difference to the people who fat shame. They just roll their eyes at a euphemism aand call us fat anyway. I defend using fat as an accurate term. Is there a defence that makes it sexy too? " I myself have an ample frame. I'm also capable of stamina and strength. I am what I am. I'm not gonna go on some diet to look better when I happy ad I am. Guys who go gym couldn't lift half what I can. I do physical work 5 or 6 days a week. I don't eat alot so fuck it. Take me or leave me | |||
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"People have their preferences regardless of what it is, people shouldn’t shame, people shouldn’t mock, yet I can argue some people may try to persuade, help or simply inform, the term “fat” is also the same as the term “unhealthy”. Personally I would never attack someone for their appearance, but wish to motivate someone to take a step in the right direction. To become a better and healthier version of them selves " No offence... But everyone is well aware of their size/fitness level. I doubt anyone past the age of probably early teens need advice/direction on it | |||
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"After half a lifetime of battling eating disorders, I've been working to see 'fat' as a neutral word. Actually recently changed 'curvy'to 'fat' in one of the opening paragraphs of my profile. Its not something I am, it doesn't define my identity, it's not something I feel, its just something I have. Something all bodies have in varying amounts. I have had fat on my body and ... - been loved - made friends - been attractive to others - travelled the world - been a scuba instructor To name just a few things! It can be difficult when we live in such a fatphobic society with all kinds of toxic ideas. But Ive come to accept that the only opinion I can truly control is my own. Absolutely love the fat on my bottom. Just got to work on accepting my wobbly belly fat lol." Having just had a look at your bio pics. I can say in my opinion you are a stunner. | |||
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"It's good to hear so many women and some of the guys are so comfortable with their bodies and their own self esteem on here about their body shape or size. But personally I think both on here and in the real world I will use the word curvy. Just afraid if I used the word fat to the wrong person I might end up with a broken jaw. I am both of those people. I don't think I have enough skin to get fat enough to be two people. " Doesn't matter what you call yourself, if you are comfortable in your skin you are pretty much always sexy as body confidence is definitely a sexy trait. For me personally I love big/fat/bbw/curvy/whatever descriptor used... women. Bigger is definitely better. Never met a bigger lady who didnt enjoy sex as much or usually more than a slim one. If they are unfortunate enough to have 'body issues' then once you get past them and they are comfortable with you then the sex has always been amazing. If they dont have those issues then same thing once comfortable sex is amazing. In fairness I will say maybe its me because I find bigger women sexy then the sex is better but on the odd occasion I've had sex with a slimmer woman its just never been as good. As I said maybe thats because of my preferences. But, I personally believe that bigger women generally enjoy sex more and because of that they are absolutely sexier. | |||
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"People have their preferences regardless of what it is, people shouldn’t shame, people shouldn’t mock, yet I can argue some people may try to persuade, help or simply inform, the term “fat” is also the same as the term “unhealthy”. Personally I would never attack someone for their appearance, but wish to motivate someone to take a step in the right direction. To become a better and healthier version of them selves " No, fat is not always the same as unhealthy. I'm happy to take my doctor's view on that, not yours. | |||
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" the term “fat” is also the same as the term “unhealthy”. Personally I would never attack someone for their appearance, but wish to motivate someone to take a step in the right direction. To become a better and healthier version of them selves " Best motivation I found was to be fucking someone and for them to comment about how unfit you are | |||
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"they are offended on my behalf which is really odd " I do find it funny when people do that I think many folks automatically equate fat to a bad thing. Like this conversation with a friend the other week. Me - Should have worn something else. So fat and bloated this eve. Her - Oh don't say that! Me - Say what? Im fat and bloated? Her - You're not fat! Me - Mate ... I literally have a fat belly. Look *wobbles belly* Her - Yes but it's not that bad I think she was trying to say I looked good despite the fat but didn't know how lol. | |||
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"they are offended on my behalf which is really odd I do find it funny when people do that I think many folks automatically equate fat to a bad thing. Like this conversation with a friend the other week. Me - Should have worn something else. So fat and bloated this eve. Her - Oh don't say that! Me - Say what? Im fat and bloated? Her - You're not fat! Me - Mate ... I literally have a fat belly. Look *wobbles belly* Her - Yes but it's not that bad I think she was trying to say I looked good despite the fat but didn't know how lol." I'm happy the way I am. It's not an accurate gauge I know, but I do 20 - 25 k steps on a normal day. Sometimes upto 35 k. I do about 40 flights of stairs on a normal day with a harness and heavy tool belt. I done 78 flights of stairs the other day. I'm not unfit, anyone who doesn't wanna look past a bit of jelly then jog on. | |||
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"I (male) am fat, however I think its also a behavioral trait. For example, some people are "fat" but eat sensibly walk, take the stairs. Others who are "fat" sit on the sofa eating family bags of sweets and crisps every night and claim they dislike fruit and veg. I'm a fat girl who can walk and swim and eat alot of fruit and veg and I weirdly adore salads lol! We are all so different x" That's my point exactly. Personally, I am attracted to bigger women, but I'm not attracted to people who are lazy and/or sit on the sofa stuffing their face with cake, sweets and junk food every night. I want someone who eats well, appreciates a cake is a luxury and isn't going to proclaim they dislike all fruit and veg. My point was that the word "fat" isn't just about physical appearance | |||
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"People have their preferences regardless of what it is, people shouldn’t shame, people shouldn’t mock, yet I can argue some people may try to persuade, help or simply inform, the term “fat” is also the same as the term “unhealthy”. Personally I would never attack someone for their appearance, but wish to motivate someone to take a step in the right direction. To become a better and healthier version of them selves " Don't assume fat is unhealthy would be a good place to start | |||
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"People have their preferences regardless of what it is, people shouldn’t shame, people shouldn’t mock, yet I can argue some people may try to persuade, help or simply inform, the term “fat” is also the same as the term “unhealthy”. Personally I would never attack someone for their appearance, but wish to motivate someone to take a step in the right direction. To become a better and healthier version of them selves Don't assume fat is unhealthy would be a good place to start " Understand, it could be a predecessor to a health condition therefore could put you at a greater risk. I retract my statement, it does not necessarily mean you’re unhealthy, but In the long run it’s could amount to that | |||
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"I use the word 'fat' to describe my body. I don't see it as negative, derogatory or even self-deprecating. It's what I am. I don't think using 'curvy' makes a difference to the people who fat shame. They just roll their eyes at a euphemism aand call us fat anyway. I defend using fat as an accurate term. Is there a defence that makes it sexy too? " What about obese? | |||
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"I've met you at socials and you may call yourself fat, but I think you're sexy whatever you call it " I've met Lickety loads, and agree. Some words just don't do a person justice. Fat or skinny are subjective, and whether you are attracted to a certain body shape will always be personal choice. | |||
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"I defend using fat as an accurate term. Is there a defence that makes it sexy too? What about obese?" That's a medical term. | |||
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"People have their preferences regardless of what it is, people shouldn’t shame, people shouldn’t mock, yet I can argue some people may try to persuade, help or simply inform, the term “fat” is also the same as the term “unhealthy”. Personally I would never attack someone for their appearance, but wish to motivate someone to take a step in the right direction. To become a better and healthier version of them selves Don't assume fat is unhealthy would be a good place to start Understand, it could be a predecessor to a health condition therefore could put you at a greater risk. I retract my statement, it does not necessarily mean you’re unhealthy, but In the long run it’s could amount to that " Being fat is unhealthy. But not all fat people lead a classic unhealthy lifestyle. You can be fat and livr a very healthy life style. However that isn't going to make your not fat. | |||
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"I defend using fat as an accurate term. Is there a defence that makes it sexy too? What about obese? That's a medical term." And a medical term that gets attributed to people based on their BMI which is a totally bullshit metric as it was created by a mathematician (not medic) and based on a study of average white men. It's literally height vs weight and ignores so many other attributes. I'm fat peace-lover but if someone called me obese I'd be tempted to deck them | |||
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"Being fat is unhealthy " See sweeping statements like this are part of the issue. A human without fat would die. It literally protects our vital organs. Where is the line between being human and being fat? When does it become "unhealthy"? | |||
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"People have their preferences regardless of what it is, people shouldn’t shame, people shouldn’t mock, yet I can argue some people may try to persuade, help or simply inform, the term “fat” is also the same as the term “unhealthy”. Personally I would never attack someone for their appearance, but wish to motivate someone to take a step in the right direction. To become a better and healthier version of them selves Don't assume fat is unhealthy would be a good place to start Understand, it could be a predecessor to a health condition therefore could put you at a greater risk. I retract my statement, it does not necessarily mean you’re unhealthy, but In the long run it’s could amount to that " You're 22 chatting to an audience who is on balance 40+ on here. I get where you're coming from. But I think you've possibly not looked at your audience? Most folk aren't incredibly stupid. We know our bodies, and we don't necessarily need someone probably younger than our kids to inform us we need to hit the gym. Or are you looking to up the knowledge level of the 18-22 range incase they missed the memo too? | |||
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"Fat and old are two honest words that have been stigmatised equally. Young and skinny haven't. Academics have written loads on this sort of thing. Skinny has. I don't think anyone would like to be called skinny, slim, yes, skinny, no. Have you not heard of the Kate Moss quote "Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels."? There are some skinny-minny bashing in a few fab profiles." Lies. I was skinny for a long time and Cherry Lucozade definitely tastes better. | |||
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"Being fat is unhealthy See sweeping statements like this are part of the issue. A human without fat would die. It literally protects our vital organs. Where is the line between being human and being fat? When does it become "unhealthy"?" When there’s too much of it. | |||
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"Being fat is unhealthy See sweeping statements like this are part of the issue. A human without fat would die. It literally protects our vital organs. Where is the line between being human and being fat? When does it become "unhealthy"? When there’s too much of it." For me personally I love big boobs and you don't find that with skinny birds. I have had slim girlfriends before and not my thing | |||
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"Being fat is unhealthy See sweeping statements like this are part of the issue. A human without fat would die. It literally protects our vital organs. Where is the line between being human and being fat? When does it become "unhealthy"? When there’s too much of it. For me personally I love big boobs and you don't find that with skinny birds. I have had slim girlfriends before and not my thing" I wouldn't necessarily say that. But I do think once you hit an 'age' you genuinely have to pick between a face or an arse sometimes? | |||
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"Being fat is unhealthy" Being fat - in and of itself - is not unhealthy. | |||
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"Being fat is unhealthy Being fat - in and of itself - is not unhealthy. " Of course its not. It's about the individual. Skinny fat ain't no shakes either. Someone can be low body fat, with a really shit diet, no exercise, and their organs feel the pressure too. It's as always about balance in life | |||
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"Being fat is unhealthy See sweeping statements like this are part of the issue. A human without fat would die. It literally protects our vital organs. Where is the line between being human and being fat? When does it become "unhealthy"?" Most likely, when the weight or mass of fat is compromising health, such as reducing movement, or adding stress to joints and vital organs. | |||
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"Being fat is unhealthy Being fat - in and of itself - is not unhealthy. " How is being fat healthy? | |||
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"Being fat is unhealthy Being fat - in and of itself - is not unhealthy. Of course its not. It's about the individual. Skinny fat ain't no shakes either. Someone can be low body fat, with a really shit diet, no exercise, and their organs feel the pressure too. It's as always about balance in life " Not all fat is visible though. My dad is very slim, but had a heart attack recently. He had high cholesterol, blocked arteries and fatty organs due to his diet | |||
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"Being fat is unhealthy Being fat - in and of itself - is not unhealthy. How is being fat healthy?" Did I say that? Please read more carefully. Additionally, there is all sorts of new evidence arguing that being fat is not - in and of itself - unhealthy. I won't patronize you by telling you how to find it. | |||
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"Being fat is unhealthy Being fat - in and of itself - is not unhealthy. How is being fat healthy? Did I say that? Please read more carefully. Additionally, there is all sorts of new evidence arguing that being fat is not - in and of itself - unhealthy. I won't patronize you by telling you how to find it." You said, being fat in and of itself is not unhealthy. If it is not unhealthy, how would it be healthy? Or is there something between being unhealthy and being healthy? | |||
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"You said, being fat in and of itself is not unhealthy. If it is not unhealthy, how would it be healthy? Or is there something between being unhealthy and being healthy?" Okay... what that means is if you are "fat" (whatever that means), you are not *necessarily* unhealthy. You *might* be unhealthy. Yet, you are not automatically so just by virtue of being "fat." In the same way... well, I hope you get the logic. | |||
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"I'm on the big side myself but I call myself cuddly, built for comfort not for speed " I'm the same. I'm the pit-stop! ?? | |||
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"I'm on the big side myself but I call myself cuddly, built for comfort not for speed I'm the same. I'm the pit-stop! ??" | |||
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"I use the word 'fat' to describe my body. I don't see it as negative, derogatory or even self-deprecating. It's what I am. I don't think using 'curvy' makes a difference to the people who fat shame. They just roll their eyes at a euphemism aand call us fat anyway. I defend using fat as an accurate term. Is there a defence that makes it sexy too? " I think it's more about the word 'curvy' though? - most happily apply it to mean big breasts/bum (no tummy in between) think plus size models (5'9 UK18, rounded hips, bum, boobs, no belly) | |||
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"I use the word 'fat' to describe my body. I don't see it as negative, derogatory or even self-deprecating. It's what I am. I don't think using 'curvy' makes a difference to the people who fat shame. They just roll their eyes at a euphemism aand call us fat anyway. I defend using fat as an accurate term. Is there a defence that makes it sexy too? I think it's more about the word 'curvy' though? - most happily apply it to mean big breasts/bum (no tummy in between) think plus size models (5'9 UK18, rounded hips, bum, boobs, no belly) " For example LoveHoney just size up lingerie with models. Yet to see a 'plus size' with overhang. They're all girls with very flat stomachs even if plus sized. Which ironically is the body part most women gain weight in | |||
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"There's a reason why it was reclaimed as 'phat' And at the end of the day, we're all someone's idea of hot & someone's idea of not. Haters will hate no matter who you are or what you look like. It's a them thing " spot on 110%. | |||
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"I use the word 'fat' to describe my body. I don't see it as negative, derogatory or even self-deprecating. It's what I am. I don't think using 'curvy' makes a difference to the people who fat shame. They just roll their eyes at a euphemism aand call us fat anyway. I defend using fat as an accurate term. Is there a defence that makes it sexy too? I think it's more about the word 'curvy' though? - most happily apply it to mean big breasts/bum (no tummy in between) think plus size models (5'9 UK18, rounded hips, bum, boobs, no belly) For example LoveHoney just size up lingerie with models. Yet to see a 'plus size' with overhang. They're all girls with very flat stomachs even if plus sized. Which ironically is the body part most women gain weight in " Overhang is my wheel house. I have it. I drink beer what do you expect. The women on here can be very judgemental too. Big belly big willy that's my motto | |||
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"I hate skinny women love nice big ass" Don't hate, mate. They're no threat to you. | |||
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"WTF has happened to this thread? "I'm a better shag than you." Are we all teenagers now? " My dads harder than your dad | |||
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"I use the word 'fat' to describe my body. I don't see it as negative, derogatory or even self-deprecating. It's what I am. I don't think using 'curvy' makes a difference to the people who fat shame. They just roll their eyes at a euphemism aand call us fat anyway. I defend using fat as an accurate term. Is there a defence that makes it sexy too? I think it's more about the word 'curvy' though? - most happily apply it to mean big breasts/bum (no tummy in between) think plus size models (5'9 UK18, rounded hips, bum, boobs, no belly) For example LoveHoney just size up lingerie with models. Yet to see a 'plus size' with overhang. They're all girls with very flat stomachs even if plus sized. Which ironically is the body part most women gain weight in " !! | |||
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"After half a lifetime of battling eating disorders, I've been working to see 'fat' as a neutral word. Actually recently changed 'curvy'to 'fat' in one of the opening paragraphs of my profile. Its not something I am, it doesn't define my identity, it's not something I feel, its just something I have. Something all bodies have in varying amounts. I have had fat on my body and ... - been loved - made friends - been attractive to others - travelled the world - been a scuba instructor To name just a few things! It can be difficult when we live in such a fatphobic society with all kinds of toxic ideas. But Ive come to accept that the only opinion I can truly control is my own. Absolutely love the fat on my bottom. Just got to work on accepting my wobbly belly fat lol." | |||
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"I defend using fat as an accurate term. Is there a defence that makes it sexy too? What about obese? That's a medical term. And a medical term that gets attributed to people based on their BMI which is a totally bullshit metric as it was created by a mathematician (not medic) and based on a study of average white men. It's literally height vs weight and ignores so many other attributes. I'm fat peace-lover but if someone called me obese I'd be tempted to deck them " Well said! | |||
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"WTF has happened to this thread? "I'm a better shag than you." Are we all teenagers now? " Some girls are bigger than others and some girls mothers are bigger than other girls mothers. Moz | |||
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"I use the word 'fat' to describe my body. I don't see it as negative, derogatory or even self-deprecating. It's what I am. I don't think using 'curvy' makes a difference to the people who fat shame. They just roll their eyes at a euphemism aand call us fat anyway. I defend using fat as an accurate term. Is there a defence that makes it sexy too? I think it's more about the word 'curvy' though? - most happily apply it to mean big breasts/bum (no tummy in between) think plus size models (5'9 UK18, rounded hips, bum, boobs, no belly) For example LoveHoney just size up lingerie with models. Yet to see a 'plus size' with overhang. They're all girls with very flat stomachs even if plus sized. Which ironically is the body part most women gain weight in " I hate this so much! I'd be so happy if they actually made their cups for "curvy" boobs too | |||
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"It's good to hear so many women and some of the guys are so comfortable with their bodies and their own self esteem on here about their body shape or size. But personally I think both on here and in the real world I will use the word curvy. Just afraid if I used the word fat to the wrong person I might end up with a broken jaw. I hope it wouldn't get physically violent, but you're right. " doesnt need to get violent but one swing of a handbag would do the job. I've seen how much stuff can be squeezed into a handbag | |||
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"I'm fat, it's pretty obvious from looking at me. Mr KC hates me describing myself as fat because of the negative way in which society treats fatness. I'd prefer not to be fat, but I've been on the larger side ever since I was a child. I was brought up eating healthy food, I was on pretty much every sports team at school and competed for my county at athletics (throwing). I still am very sporty, just from my wheelchair now. I still don't eat anything different to my (very slim) husband or (very slim) daughter or (very slim) son. I've now got bigger fish to fry. My blood pressure is very healthy. My cholesterol is on the low side of normal. Every time a doc insists on doing diabetes tests, I'm nowhere near diabetic. My heart is just fine (empirically decided because I have periodic heart scans due to my heart murmur that I was born with)." Yeah I'm that kind of fat. The only obesity markers are my weight.....everything else is in the normal range. I work a manual job 2 days a week. I cycle 2 days a week. I have a personal trainer 1 day a week and I go to the gym about 2 days a week. I'm also adding back in my women's football because it was cancelled a lot due to the pandemic. | |||
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"beauty is in the eye of the beholder... " Indeed, but it's very hard to accept love if you do not have some love for yourself (in a non narcissistic way).... | |||
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"I defend using fat as an accurate term. Is there a defence that makes it sexy too? What about obese? That's a medical term. And a medical term that gets attributed to people based on their BMI which is a totally bullshit metric as it was created by a mathematician (not medic) and based on a study of average white men. It's literally height vs weight and ignores so many other attributes. I'm fat peace-lover but if someone called me obese I'd be tempted to deck them " Absolutely. When, Sly Stallone, Arnie,Patrick Swayze, Dwayne Johnson, Vin Diesel and the majority of all the worlds top male gymnasts(to name just a few) can be qualified as clinically obese under the bmi metric then you know there is something seriously wrong with that metric or rather in the way that metric is being used as an individual measure rather than what it was designed for. | |||
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"I don't like the word fat. I'm happy to describe myself as that, but I could never describe someone else in that way. I am a point where I have accepted it isn't always a harmful word and it wouldn't offend me unless used in a way to try and belittle me. But, I know that others can be triggered by it... and I couldn't ever throw it around easily because I'd hate to hurt someone like I've been hurt in the past. I do think using the word more in a respectful way would bring a more neutral meaning to the word, but I genuinely find it so hard to describe someone else that way. It's so ingrained that fat is an awful word even though it's just a descriptive term and is the exact same as plus size, curvy etc. I've never in my life (in person) heard that word used in a respectful manner and that's why I find it so uncomfortable." You may be happy to describe yourself as that, but it's not true. I'm not just saying that to curry favour either, I have no skin in the game. | |||
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"I've learnt to just call myself what I want regardless of what others feel because you can't win. I use curvy and it never ceases to amaze me how much controversy one word can cause. Some, as you say tell me that I should just say fat, others tell me I'm not big enough to be curvy. I'm sure if I changed it to average, people would have a problem with that too. Or any of the options really. At the end of the day, I have pictures people can use to decide if they like my body or not, regardless of what body type label I use. " Just go with 'hot' Lacey | |||
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"I'm fat. I use that word to describe my self. I then get berated by the guy telling me I'm not fat, I'm curvy. I'm 19 stone, it's not made of flowers, it's lard. I'm not offended by the word as long as its not used in a derogatory way, which it usually is when I say "no". " Wasn't berating, I just don't see it. I'm glad you are happy with yourself, because you will make someone else very happy too. | |||
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"I've learnt to just call myself what I want regardless of what others feel because you can't win. I use curvy and it never ceases to amaze me how much controversy one word can cause. Some, as you say tell me that I should just say fat, others tell me I'm not big enough to be curvy. I'm sure if I changed it to average, people would have a problem with that too. Or any of the options really. At the end of the day, I have pictures people can use to decide if they like my body or not, regardless of what body type label I use. Just go with 'hot' Lacey " I do run rather warm! | |||
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"This entire thread has made for some uncomfortable reading. I've held off posting and deleted many a reply for fear of it appearing to pander or worse, antagonise. Weight and body image has always been a terrible triggering topic for most, and language plays an important part of how we feel both positively and negatively. Casual comments without malice or thought can wound just as deeply as those with clear intent. It's really difficult to hold ones confidence and value in light of everything we see today all around us. I don't know, there's no pearl of wisdom here, nothing providing insight or profound depth. I just find it maddening that people I viewed as strident, confident and utterly unflappable are victim to frankly ridiculous labels. But that's the human condition, it gets to us all eventually. " | |||
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"I'm fat. I use that word to describe my self. I then get berated by the guy telling me I'm not fat, I'm curvy. I'm 19 stone, it's not made of flowers, it's lard. I'm not offended by the word as long as its not used in a derogatory way, which it usually is when I say "no". " You're the same size as me then... I'm fat simples... But my hubby likes to say that XL means extra lovely lol... I say I'm harder to kid nap | |||
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"I defend using fat as an accurate term. Is there a defence that makes it sexy too? What about obese? That's a medical term. And a medical term that gets attributed to people based on their BMI which is a totally bullshit metric as it was created by a mathematician (not medic) and based on a study of average white men. It's literally height vs weight and ignores so many other attributes. I'm fat peace-lover but if someone called me obese I'd be tempted to deck them Absolutely. When, Sly Stallone, Arnie,Patrick Swayze, Dwayne Johnson, Vin Diesel and the majority of all the worlds top male gymnasts(to name just a few) can be qualified as clinically obese under the bmi metric then you know there is something seriously wrong with that metric or rather in the way that metric is being used as an individual measure rather than what it was designed for." Your profile pic is bloody fantastic! | |||
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"I'm fat. Sure you can sugarcoat it and embellish it with some lovely terms but I'm fat. Chubby when I've lost a bit of weight. I don't mind it. I had a forumite call me a heffalump once (yep, ad hominem arguments. Truly beautiful). It made me laugh more than anything else. As far as body positivity goes... ach. It tends to be touted more by non-plus size folk on here. Almost like the whole I don't see colour spiel. And it's kind of problematic but that's a whole other thread. I don't feel the need to defend it as sexy. I'm more than my body but I'm also my body at the same time. Convoluted at 6am. Sexy because I am me. Not in spite of the fact I'm fat. Not because I'm fat. Because I'm me. " Aren't heffalumps those gloriously cute and bouncy happy Disney baby elephants? | |||
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" Your profile pic is bloody fantastic! " Awww, thanks Boobs, yours are pretty special,can see why your username. Loving the little nipple peek, very sexy x | |||
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" Your profile pic is bloody fantastic! Awww, thanks Boobs, yours are pretty special,can see why your username. Loving the little nipple peek, very sexy x " Thanks | |||
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"I think it’s becoming a term which is being reclaimed. More accurately you might say “I have fat” not “I am fat”. You wouldn’t say “I am abs”, after all. " I have noticed that 'with overweight' is being used more. | |||
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"I use the word 'fat' to describe my body. I don't see it as negative, derogatory or even self-deprecating. It's what I am. I don't think using 'curvy' makes a difference to the people who fat shame. They just roll their eyes at a euphemism aand call us fat anyway. I defend using fat as an accurate term. Is there a defence that makes it sexy too? " I totally agree. When you can embrace your fat, life gets better Remember girls, those boys don't look at our bodies like we do I've always had a penchant for a fat bald man, even when I was slim Missy x | |||
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"I think it’s becoming a term which is being reclaimed. More accurately you might say “I have fat” not “I am fat”. You wouldn’t say “I am abs”, after all. " Or in my case "I have lots of fat" | |||
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"Sexy because I am me. Not in spite of the fact I'm fat. Not because I'm fat. Because I'm me. " Absolutely this; in my mind you can be sexy no matter what your body shape. The same goes for not sexy too. OP, there are definitely some people who think fat is sexy no matter what, just like some who only go for blondes, black guys or whatever else. I guess being called fat is ok as long as it’s not used as a pejorative term, however it’s been an insult for a looong time so it can still sting for plenty of us. Just be aware that some people out there think we’re sexy as fuck for who we are. | |||
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" I'm happy the way I am. It's not an accurate gauge I know, but I do 20 - 25 k steps on a normal day. Sometimes upto 35 k. I do about 40 flights of stairs on a normal day with a harness and heavy tool belt. I done 78 flights of stairs the other day. I'm not unfit, anyone who doesn't wanna look past a bit of jelly then jog on. " I like squidgey bits on men. Maybe it's a comfort thing. Maybe it's a kink. I mean I've been with guys with very low body fat and that was ok too. Let's face it, I like all types of naked men. Lol! there aren't many body types that I've said no to. Now the personality...could be the man with the most amazing body in the world but if they have a personality that sets off my trauma triggers: no thanks!! | |||
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"A few months ago someone on fab messaged me totally uninvited to tell me how Fat I was and that they wouldn't even meet some as fat if they were getting paid to. I said how observant they were and that was ok because even if I was paying to meet someone I wouldn't waste my money on them. " Omg how rude and entitled they were. Clearly they were dragged up instead of raised and brought up. Some people online are incredibly sadistic and not in a good way. In a narcissistic/sociopathic/psychopathic/abusive way. For me a straight delete and block! I would never dream of doing that to someone...online or in person. | |||
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"People have their preferences regardless of what it is, people shouldn’t shame, people shouldn’t mock, yet I can argue some people may try to persuade, help or simply inform, the term “fat” is also the same as the term “unhealthy”. Personally I would never attack someone for their appearance, but wish to motivate someone to take a step in the right direction. To become a better and healthier version of them selves Don't assume fat is unhealthy would be a good place to start " Yes! | |||
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