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"The question was .......... SHOULD she be on an all female shortlist. We know she isn't but should she be. " No. | |||
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"The question was .......... SHOULD she be on an all female shortlist. We know she isn't but should she be. No." I'm saying yes - 'list dependent' | |||
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"The question was .......... SHOULD she be on an all female shortlist. We know she isn't but should she be. No. I'm saying yes - 'list dependent' " I agree | |||
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"The question was .......... SHOULD she be on an all female shortlist. We know she isn't but should she be. No. I'm saying yes - 'list dependent' " He's gender fluid so would he be on the list one day and off it the next? | |||
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"The question was .......... SHOULD she be on an all female shortlist. We know she isn't but should she be. No. I'm saying yes - 'list dependent' He's gender fluid so would he be on the list one day and off it the next?" It's such an interesting thought. If we deny her a place on a womans list... should she be denied a place on a mans list..... have we got to have a trans list a gender fluid list..... etc etc .... I'm still trying to think of reasons to deny her a place on a woman's list... other than some would argue she's not a woman and i'm having trouble coming up with decent reasons........ anyone can come up with spurious laughable reasons. | |||
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"The question was .......... SHOULD she be on an all female shortlist. We know she isn't but should she be. No. I'm saying yes - 'list dependent' He's gender fluid so would he be on the list one day and off it the next? It's such an interesting thought. If we deny her a place on a womans list... should she be denied a place on a mans list..... have we got to have a trans list a gender fluid list..... etc etc .... I'm still trying to think of reasons to deny her a place on a woman's list... other than some would argue she's not a woman and i'm having trouble coming up with decent reasons........ anyone can come up with spurious laughable reasons. " A woman's list is for women. Eddie Izzard is not a woman. That's a compelling enough a reason for me. | |||
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"The question was .......... SHOULD she be on an all female shortlist. We know she isn't but should she be. No. I'm saying yes - 'list dependent' He's gender fluid so would he be on the list one day and off it the next?" I like the idea of being able to pick and choose which days youre a man or a woman. There could be advantages to that. When he's identifying as a she... Does he dress as a she or is it only... I feel like a woman (as Shania would say) and everyone else has to guess? I'm intrigued how the practicalities of that might work. | |||
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"The question was .......... SHOULD she be on an all female shortlist. We know she isn't but should she be. No. I'm saying yes - 'list dependent' He's gender fluid so would he be on the list one day and off it the next? It's such an interesting thought. If we deny her a place on a womans list... should she be denied a place on a mans list..... have we got to have a trans list a gender fluid list..... etc etc .... I'm still trying to think of reasons to deny her a place on a woman's list... other than some would argue she's not a woman and i'm having trouble coming up with decent reasons........ anyone can come up with spurious laughable reasons. A woman's list is for women. Eddie Izzard is not a woman. That's a compelling enough a reason for me. " That's the only reason I can think people would give. Which is why I said 'list dependent' ....... I look forward to a time when we've moved on enough to have 'lists' and not segregations. It's not like it's a best vagina list. People running the country should be selected on suitability..... I recognise the need for positive discrimination in the past but surely not for ever. | |||
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"The question was .......... SHOULD she be on an all female shortlist. We know she isn't but should she be. No. I'm saying yes - 'list dependent' He's gender fluid so would he be on the list one day and off it the next? I like the idea of being able to pick and choose which days youre a man or a woman. There could be advantages to that. When he's identifying as a she... Does he dress as a she or is it only... I feel like a woman (as Shania would say) and everyone else has to guess? I'm intrigued how the practicalities of that might work. " I don’t know that this is what gender fluidity means? | |||
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"This is a debate about something that's not even happened. It's manufactured outrage and does no one who raises it any credit. " In my head it's not about Eddie Izzard. It's about wider issues that affect us all. I know he's not on a womans list. That doesn't close the stable door on the discussion and nor should it. | |||
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"The question was .......... SHOULD she be on an all female shortlist. We know she isn't but should she be. No. I'm saying yes - 'list dependent' He's gender fluid so would he be on the list one day and off it the next? I like the idea of being able to pick and choose which days youre a man or a woman. There could be advantages to that. When he's identifying as a she... Does he dress as a she or is it only... I feel like a woman (as Shania would say) and everyone else has to guess? I'm intrigued how the practicalities of that might work. " She identifies in female mode 24/7 , so ive read. | |||
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"The question was .......... SHOULD she be on an all female shortlist. We know she isn't but should she be. No. I'm saying yes - 'list dependent' He's gender fluid so would he be on the list one day and off it the next? I like the idea of being able to pick and choose which days youre a man or a woman. There could be advantages to that. When he's identifying as a she... Does he dress as a she or is it only... I feel like a woman (as Shania would say) and everyone else has to guess? I'm intrigued how the practicalities of that might work. " It's not as trivial a decision of 'what shall I be today' ....... | |||
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"The question was .......... SHOULD she be on an all female shortlist. We know she isn't but should she be. No. I'm saying yes - 'list dependent' He's gender fluid so would he be on the list one day and off it the next? I like the idea of being able to pick and choose which days youre a man or a woman. There could be advantages to that. When he's identifying as a she... Does he dress as a she or is it only... I feel like a woman (as Shania would say) and everyone else has to guess? I'm intrigued how the practicalities of that might work. " How does a woman dress I wonder?! | |||
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"No, it shouldn't be allowed but I'm pretty sure that Izzard has confirmed that this won't be happening anyway?" He has however it would be within labours rules for him to stand in a all female shortlist. | |||
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"The question was .......... SHOULD she be on an all female shortlist. We know she isn't but should she be. No. I'm saying yes - 'list dependent' He's gender fluid so would he be on the list one day and off it the next?" Surely they would be on a list for a specific reason so perhaps it should be based on their identity at the time of that specific act. | |||
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"He's not on an all women's list thats a media slur. She's responded to that and called it out. She's isn't and has never asked to be on an all women's list " She? The guys gender fluid, he's not a she, he has a boy mode and a girl mode. Obviously when he's acting and making money he's happy to play a male. | |||
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"He's not on an all women's list thats a media slur. She's responded to that and called it out. She's isn't and has never asked to be on an all women's list She? The guys gender fluid, he's not a she, he has a boy mode and a girl mode. Obviously when he's acting and making money he's happy to play a male." Post 2019 he said he is in female mode. | |||
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"An argument over nothing. The entire right wing 'culture war' in a nutshell..." Agree.. Another clickbait from one of the sites regulars and a chance for others to exhibit their prejudices.. | |||
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"An argument over nothing. The entire right wing 'culture war' in a nutshell... Agree.. Another clickbait from one of the sites regulars and a chance for others to exhibit their prejudices.." Definitely click bait but im less interested in eddie's specific case than I am in the whole, highly interesting idea. | |||
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"The question was .......... SHOULD she be on an all female shortlist. We know she isn't but should she be. No. I'm saying yes - 'list dependent' He's gender fluid so would he be on the list one day and off it the next? I like the idea of being able to pick and choose which days youre a man or a woman. There could be advantages to that. When he's identifying as a she... Does he dress as a she or is it only... I feel like a woman (as Shania would say) and everyone else has to guess? I'm intrigued how the practicalities of that might work. It's not as trivial a decision of 'what shall I be today' ....... " It is for Eddie, who admits that some days are girl days and some are boy days | |||
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"The question was .......... SHOULD she be on an all female shortlist. We know she isn't but should she be. No. I'm saying yes - 'list dependent' He's gender fluid so would he be on the list one day and off it the next? I like the idea of being able to pick and choose which days youre a man or a woman. There could be advantages to that. When he's identifying as a she... Does he dress as a she or is it only... I feel like a woman (as Shania would say) and everyone else has to guess? I'm intrigued how the practicalities of that might work. It's not as trivial a decision of 'what shall I be today' ....... It is for Eddie, who admits that some days are girl days and some are boy days" That doesn't mean it's trivial to them. | |||
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"He's not on an all women's list thats a media slur. She's responded to that and called it out. She's isn't and has never asked to be on an all women's list She? The guys gender fluid, he's not a she, he has a boy mode and a girl mode. Obviously when he's acting and making money he's happy to play a male." Some straight actors are happy being gay on screen, similarly some gay actors are happy playing straight parts. What's your point? | |||
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"The question was .......... SHOULD she be on an all female shortlist. We know she isn't but should she be. No. I'm saying yes - 'list dependent' He's gender fluid so would he be on the list one day and off it the next? I like the idea of being able to pick and choose which days youre a man or a woman. There could be advantages to that. When he's identifying as a she... Does he dress as a she or is it only... I feel like a woman (as Shania would say) and everyone else has to guess? I'm intrigued how the practicalities of that might work. She identifies in female mode 24/7 , so ive read." I don't know.. But if that is the case... Is that gender fluid? I have to be honest I struggle with the whole notion of choosing to identify as something but it seems to be very divisive. | |||
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"The question was .......... SHOULD she be on an all female shortlist. We know she isn't but should she be. No. I'm saying yes - 'list dependent' He's gender fluid so would he be on the list one day and off it the next? I like the idea of being able to pick and choose which days youre a man or a woman. There could be advantages to that. When he's identifying as a she... Does he dress as a she or is it only... I feel like a woman (as Shania would say) and everyone else has to guess? I'm intrigued how the practicalities of that might work. It's not as trivial a decision of 'what shall I be today' ....... It is for Eddie, who admits that some days are girl days and some are boy days That doesn't mean it's trivial to them. " Who said it was trivial.? Presumably they make a choice? | |||
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"An argument over nothing. The entire right wing 'culture war' in a nutshell... Agree.. Another clickbait from one of the sites regulars and a chance for others to exhibit their prejudices.." And yet you posted here  | |||
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"The question was .......... SHOULD she be on an all female shortlist. We know she isn't but should she be. No. I'm saying yes - 'list dependent' He's gender fluid so would he be on the list one day and off it the next? I like the idea of being able to pick and choose which days youre a man or a woman. There could be advantages to that. When he's identifying as a she... Does he dress as a she or is it only... I feel like a woman (as Shania would say) and everyone else has to guess? I'm intrigued how the practicalities of that might work. It's not as trivial a decision of 'what shall I be today' ....... It is for Eddie, who admits that some days are girl days and some are boy days That doesn't mean it's trivial to them. Who said it was trivial.? Presumably they make a choice? " The person that I quoted. | |||
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"He/she chooses to be male one day and female the next and sometime changes halfway through the day which is his/her right. But how are you supposed to know who they are on a particular day ? Just causes confusion just pick one "Why do you need to know if they are make or female at any one time? There are pronouns you can use that aren't gendered | |||
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"The question was .......... SHOULD she be on an all female shortlist. We know she isn't but should she be. No. I'm saying yes - 'list dependent' He's gender fluid so would he be on the list one day and off it the next? I like the idea of being able to pick and choose which days youre a man or a woman. There could be advantages to that. When he's identifying as a she... Does he dress as a she or is it only... I feel like a woman (as Shania would say) and everyone else has to guess? I'm intrigued how the practicalities of that might work. It's not as trivial a decision of 'what shall I be today' ....... It is for Eddie, who admits that some days are girl days and some are boy days That doesn't mean it's trivial to them. Who said it was trivial.? Presumably they make a choice? The person that I quoted. " Your words. Not theirs. | |||
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"Not another go at trannys is it.... " "They're not women's clothes: they're mine: I bought them." | |||
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"The question was .......... SHOULD she be on an all female shortlist. We know she isn't but should she be. No. I'm saying yes - 'list dependent' He's gender fluid so would he be on the list one day and off it the next? I like the idea of being able to pick and choose which days youre a man or a woman. There could be advantages to that. When he's identifying as a she... Does he dress as a she or is it only... I feel like a woman (as Shania would say) and everyone else has to guess? I'm intrigued how the practicalities of that might work. It's not as trivial a decision of 'what shall I be today' ....... It is for Eddie, who admits that some days are girl days and some are boy days That doesn't mean it's trivial to them. Who said it was trivial.? Presumably they make a choice? The person that I quoted. Your words. Not theirs." I'm not entirely sure what your objection is to my post lol Someone stated that the decision to identify as male or female on any given day was not a trivial one. The person that I quoted said it was....ergo the believe it is a trivial decision for Eddie izzard. Their words....not mine lol | |||
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"The question was .......... SHOULD she be on an all female shortlist. We know she isn't but should she be. No. I'm saying yes - 'list dependent' He's gender fluid so would he be on the list one day and off it the next? I like the idea of being able to pick and choose which days youre a man or a woman. There could be advantages to that. When he's identifying as a she... Does he dress as a she or is it only... I feel like a woman (as Shania would say) and everyone else has to guess? I'm intrigued how the practicalities of that might work. It's not as trivial a decision of 'what shall I be today' ....... It is for Eddie, who admits that some days are girl days and some are boy days" He doesn't hold with that any longer. He is always in female mode. Hasn't done boy days girl days for approx 2 years. | |||
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"The question was .......... SHOULD she be on an all female shortlist. We know she isn't but should she be. No. I'm saying yes - 'list dependent' He's gender fluid so would he be on the list one day and off it the next? I like the idea of being able to pick and choose which days youre a man or a woman. There could be advantages to that. When he's identifying as a she... Does he dress as a she or is it only... I feel like a woman (as Shania would say) and everyone else has to guess? I'm intrigued how the practicalities of that might work. It's not as trivial a decision of 'what shall I be today' ....... It is for Eddie, who admits that some days are girl days and some are boy days That doesn't mean it's trivial to them. Who said it was trivial.? Presumably they make a choice? The person that I quoted. Your words. Not theirs." My words. | |||
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"The question was .......... SHOULD she be on an all female shortlist. We know she isn't but should she be. No. I'm saying yes - 'list dependent' He's gender fluid so would he be on the list one day and off it the next? I like the idea of being able to pick and choose which days youre a man or a woman. There could be advantages to that. When he's identifying as a she... Does he dress as a she or is it only... I feel like a woman (as Shania would say) and everyone else has to guess? I'm intrigued how the practicalities of that might work. It's not as trivial a decision of 'what shall I be today' ....... It is for Eddie, who admits that some days are girl days and some are boy days That doesn't mean it's trivial to them. Who said it was trivial.? Presumably they make a choice? The person that I quoted. Your words. Not theirs. I'm not entirely sure what your objection is to my post lol Someone stated that the decision to identify as male or female on any given day was not a trivial one. The person that I quoted said it was....ergo the believe it is a trivial decision for Eddie izzard. Their words....not mine lol " You're right. My apologies. | |||
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"The op just posed a question nothing wrong with that. Maybe a bit controversial and a red glad to some. I doubt he wanted it to descend to the level of someone wanting Eddie death which is a disgusting thing to say" Nope, OP loves to stir the pot when it comes to news about trans people. He knows exactly how people will react and still posts threads like this. Never encourages kindness, just drops the thread and runs under the guise of "I was only asking a question" | |||
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"The op just posed a question nothing wrong with that. Maybe a bit controversial and a red glad to some. I doubt he wanted it to descend to the level of someone wanting Eddie death which is a disgusting thing to say Nope, OP loves to stir the pot when it comes to news about trans people. He knows exactly how people will react and still posts threads like this. Never encourages kindness, just drops the thread and runs under the guise of "I was only asking a question" " Tbh don't take that much notice. Some of the comments people make are more controversial I tend to stay out of these kind of discussions as they tend to degrade into abusive comments | |||
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"He/she chooses to be male one day and female the next and sometime changes halfway through the day which is his/her right. But how are you supposed to know who they are on a particular day ? Just causes confusion just pick one
Why do you need to know if they are make or female at any one time? There are pronouns you can use that aren't gendered "Sorry but I don’t do the whole pronoun thing, male and female is fine with me
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"He/she chooses to be male one day and female the next and sometime changes halfway through the day which is his/her right. But how are you supposed to know who they are on a particular day ? Just causes confusion just pick one
Why do you need to know if they are make or female at any one time? There are pronouns you can use that aren't gendered
Sorry but I don’t do the whole pronoun thing, male and female is fine with me
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"The op just posed a question nothing wrong with that. Maybe a bit controversial and a red glad to some. I doubt he wanted it to descend to the level of someone wanting Eddie death which is a disgusting thing to say Nope, OP loves to stir the pot when it comes to news about trans people. He knows exactly how people will react and still posts threads like this. Never encourages kindness, just drops the thread and runs under the guise of "I was only asking a question" " To be fair he does it about a lot of topics. There's nothing wrong in what he does. He just let's people get on with it lol | |||
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"Apologies, maybe I was a little harsh on wot I've said, and should of kept it to myself. But we all have some hate in us one way or another none of us are perfect, but I do apologise "Accepted. But not the bit about 'we all hate' .... you have to own your own shit.. we don't all hate. xx | |||
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"Apologies, maybe I was a little harsh on wot I've said, and should of kept it to myself. But we all have some hate in us one way or another none of us are perfect, but I do apologise "Nah, there are people I dislike but I've managed to go through every single day of my life without wishing someone dead. Worth reflecting on why you apparently can't. | |||
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"The op just posed a question nothing wrong with that. Maybe a bit controversial and a red glad to some. I doubt he wanted it to descend to the level of someone wanting Eddie death which is a disgusting thing to say Nope, OP loves to stir the pot when it comes to news about trans people. He knows exactly how people will react and still posts threads like this. Never encourages kindness, just drops the thread and runs under the guise of "I was only asking a question" " Not just trans....ive seen posts about other countries and he doesn't like them.....disguised as a joke | |||
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"Should it be allowed?" Izzard has stated she will not stand on any all-women shortlist as currently she does not identify as a full time woman. Under the circumstance of some other hypothetical trans person taking part in politics or any other sector of life, then if they live full time as a woman there is no reason why they should not stand on an all-women shortlist. If they should subsequently alter their gender identification and/or gender performivity, then it would be legitimate for the party and/or other persons on that shortlist to inquire whether the placement is still appropriate (but not in my view to automatically replace the person). However any situation of a cis-woman standing on such a shortlist, then subsequently transitioning to become trans-male, should be treated in exactly the same way. Ideally though, in a fair society, there ought to be no necessity for pre-selecting candidates for any type of position according to any minority characteristic. Having selection processes where the selectors have no knowledge of, and no need to have knowledge of, the candidates gender, race etc merely their ability to perform the role as necessary, would be much better. | |||
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"Apologies, maybe I was a little harsh on wot I've said, and should of kept it to myself. But we all have some hate in us one way or another none of us are perfect, but I do apologise
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"Is says Eddie Izzard identifies as a gender fluid trans woman. Is that not an oxymoron" How so? | |||
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"To all of the people referring to Eddie Izzard as "she"....how do you know Eddie isn't in boy mode today?" To be fair he has said he's fine with 'he' as a pronoun. | |||
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"To all of the people referring to Eddie Izzard as "she"....how do you know Eddie isn't in boy mode today?" How do you know she's not in girl mode? She refers to herself as she, and says that she prefers to be referred to as she by other people. She says she doesn't mind if someone gets them wrong, but overall wants to use she/her. | |||
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"To all of the people referring to Eddie Izzard as "she"....how do you know Eddie isn't in boy mode today? To be fair he has said he's fine with 'he' as a pronoun." True. She prefers she/her but is fairly relaxed about it and doesn't mind he/him. | |||
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"Apologies, maybe I was a little harsh on wot I've said, and should of kept it to myself. But we all have some hate in us one way or another none of us are perfect, but I do apologise
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"Now I feel like a right bellend lol, ill take back every word that I said as I got the wrong person mixed up lol thats wot I get for commenting on a thread before I've woken up, massive humble pie for me. Person I was thinking about was Ricky garvias, duhhhhh, next time ill wake up before I comment lmao, god I feel so stupid now "Gervais maybe | |||
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"To all of the people referring to Eddie Izzard as "she"....how do you know Eddie isn't in boy mode today? How do you know she's not in girl mode? She refers to herself as she, and says that she prefers to be referred to as she by other people. She says she doesn't mind if someone gets them wrong, but overall wants to use she/her. " The old gender flexibility sure comes in handy when "she" has to play a "he". | |||
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"To all of the people referring to Eddie Izzard as "she"....how do you know Eddie isn't in boy mode today? How do you know she's not in girl mode? She refers to herself as she, and says that she prefers to be referred to as she by other people. She says she doesn't mind if someone gets them wrong, but overall wants to use she/her. The old gender flexibility sure comes in handy when "she" has to play a "he"." How is that any different to people playing different sexualities or able bodied actors playing disabled characters?! Bit of a reach I reckon lol | |||
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"To all of the people referring to Eddie Izzard as "she"....how do you know Eddie isn't in boy mode today? How do you know she's not in girl mode? She refers to herself as she, and says that she prefers to be referred to as she by other people. She says she doesn't mind if someone gets them wrong, but overall wants to use she/her. The old gender flexibility sure comes in handy when "she" has to play a "he"." You don't need to put pronouns in quotation marks. So no cis person has ever been cast as someone of the opposite gender by your logic? No cis person has ever been cast as a trans person? | |||
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"Should it be allowed? Izzard has stated she will not stand on any all-women shortlist as currently she does not identify as a full time woman. Under the circumstance of some other hypothetical trans person taking part in politics or any other sector of life, then if they live full time as a woman there is no reason why they should not stand on an all-women shortlist. If they should subsequently alter their gender identification and/or gender performivity, then it would be legitimate for the party and/or other persons on that shortlist to inquire whether the placement is still appropriate (but not in my view to automatically replace the person). However any situation of a cis-woman standing on such a shortlist, then subsequently transitioning to become trans-male, should be treated in exactly the same way. Ideally though, in a fair society, there ought to be no necessity for pre-selecting candidates for any type of position according to any minority characteristic. Having selection processes where the selectors have no knowledge of, and no need to have knowledge of, the candidates gender, race etc merely their ability to perform the role as necessary, would be much better." I think we shouldn't have quite so little faith in the British public. Trans MPs and councillors are getting voted in without hiding their birth gender, which is good to see that people aren't always being blinded by hatred towards trans people and concentrating on what they can do for the community. | |||
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"Izzard has presented as female and used the she/her pronouns for well over two years, she is a trans woman. But unlike some doesn't get hung up if some say he by mistake or are not sure what to say as it can be confusing if you dont know, he openly has stated this in interviews
Tg x"Yes because intent changes the situation. Most trans people I know, including myself, don't care if someone misgenders them if it's a genuine mistake. If it is intentional then there is a big difference. People that do know her pronouns and refuse to use them is where the issue lies. | |||
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"To all of the people referring to Eddie Izzard as "she"....how do you know Eddie isn't in boy mode today? How do you know she's not in girl mode? She refers to herself as she, and says that she prefers to be referred to as she by other people. She says she doesn't mind if someone gets them wrong, but overall wants to use she/her. The old gender flexibility sure comes in handy when "she" has to play a "he". How is that any different to people playing different sexualities or able bodied actors playing disabled characters?! Bit of a reach I reckon lol " Because they're not pretending to be something that they're not in real life too. | |||
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"This is a debate about something that's not even happened. It's manufactured outrage and does no one who raises it any credit. In my head it's not about Eddie Izzard. It's about wider issues that affect us all. I know he's not on a womans list. That doesn't close the stable door on the discussion and nor should it." Could it gave something to do with trans rights, overshadowing womens rights? | |||
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"This is a debate about something that's not even happened. It's manufactured outrage and does no one who raises it any credit. In my head it's not about Eddie Izzard. It's about wider issues that affect us all. I know he's not on a womans list. That doesn't close the stable door on the discussion and nor should it. Could it gave something to do with trans rights, overshadowing womens rights?" Can you expand on this and say what you actually mean? Because my rights as a transgender man have absolutely no effect on women's rights, so are you just taking a shot at trans women? | |||
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"Not another go at trannys is it.... " Why not, he's not a woman & just because a load of men in dresses want to pretend why should the rest of us. | |||
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"Not another go at trannys is it.... Why not, he's not a woman & just because a load of men in dresses want to pretend why should the rest of us. " Plenty of women dress like men, Annie Lennox looks so unsual dressed as a woman, in her old videos. | |||
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"To all of the people referring to Eddie Izzard as "she"....how do you know Eddie isn't in boy mode today? How do you know she's not in girl mode? She refers to herself as she, and says that she prefers to be referred to as she by other people. She says she doesn't mind if someone gets them wrong, but overall wants to use she/her. The old gender flexibility sure comes in handy when "she" has to play a "he". How is that any different to people playing different sexualities or able bodied actors playing disabled characters?! Bit of a reach I reckon lol Because they're not pretending to be something that they're not in real life too." But your statement was around their work and how it benefited them to be able to 'choose' their identity based on what's paying at the time. My question still stands. | |||
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"Here come the poorly informed pronoun hating pitchfork brigade. If only they got this annoyed at real word problems instead of being dragged into a right wing culture war as useful idiots." What's right wing? Don't get why that gets thrown in? Pretty sure jk Rowling isn't right wing. | |||
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"This shouldn’t even be a topic of conversation, science and biology dictates all you need to know about this " Science doesn't dictate. It hypothesises. | |||
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"The op just posed a question nothing wrong with that. Maybe a bit controversial and a red glad to some. I doubt he wanted it to descend to the level of someone wanting Eddie death which is a disgusting thing to say Nope, OP loves to stir the pot when it comes to news about trans people. He knows exactly how people will react and still posts threads like this. Never encourages kindness, just drops the thread and runs under the guise of "I was only asking a question" " Red card . So debate is censored? This story is all over the news... | |||
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"This shouldn’t even be a topic of conversation, science and biology dictates all you need to know about this Science doesn't dictate. It hypothesises. " No it’s pretty clear. What you are is not an optional thing. You are born as you are, biology dictates you are either a man or woman ( obviously there are exceptions ) | |||
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"This shouldn’t even be a topic of conversation, science and biology dictates all you need to know about this Science doesn't dictate. It hypothesises. No it’s pretty clear. What you are is not an optional thing. You are born as you are, biology dictates you are either a man or woman ( obviously there are exceptions ) " Repeat as much as you like... but science doesn't dictate. That's not how it works. | |||
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"This shouldn’t even be a topic of conversation, science and biology dictates all you need to know about this Science doesn't dictate. It hypothesises. No it’s pretty clear. What you are is not an optional thing. You are born as you are, biology dictates you are either a man or woman ( obviously there are exceptions ) Repeat as much as you like... but science doesn't dictate. That's not how it works." Word it how you like. It’s not an optional thing you are as you are. | |||
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"This shouldn’t even be a topic of conversation, science and biology dictates all you need to know about this Science doesn't dictate. It hypothesises. No it’s pretty clear. What you are is not an optional thing. You are born as you are, biology dictates you are either a man or woman ( obviously there are exceptions ) Repeat as much as you like... but science doesn't dictate. That's not how it works." And I’ll apologise you are right. Biology dictates | |||
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"Word it how you like. It’s not an optional thing you are as you are. " Thanks for clearing that up
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"Word it how you like. It’s not an optional thing you are as you are. Thanks for clearing that up
Out of interest why would it bother you how somebody else wishes to be seen?"Because what people wish is not relevant. I can wish to live on the moon. Ain’t going to happen is it. | |||
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"Word it how you like. It’s not an optional thing you are as you are. Thanks for clearing that up
Out of interest why would it bother you how somebody else wishes to be seen?
Because what people wish is not relevant. I can wish to live on the moon. Ain’t going to happen is it. "Yeah but I don't feel bothered by your desire either. I'm sure most wouldn't. Just seems weird that people get upset by this. I'm curious as to what it is about it that bothers you? | |||
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"Word it how you like. It’s not an optional thing you are as you are. Thanks for clearing that up
Out of interest why would it bother you how somebody else wishes to be seen?
Because what people wish is not relevant. I can wish to live on the moon. Ain’t going to happen is it.
Yeah but I don't feel bothered by your desire either. I'm sure most wouldn't.
Just seems weird that people get upset by this. I'm curious as to what it is about it that bothers you?"To reply to that would take a long message deviating on and off topic to fully understand it, it goes bigger than thinking you can choose your sex. As much as I would like to have a mature debate. I’m sure my comments would be seen are “far right” and I do not have time to reply to everyone who would say I’m discriminating or narrow minded. It’s not a topic I’m passionate about but it’s my view and opinion, the irony is if we did discuss this further on here I would be slated and my view and opinion would be wrong, but yet I would have to accept the other people’s views and opinions. | |||
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"This shouldn’t even be a topic of conversation, science and biology dictates all you need to know about this " Do you refer to the science behind gender dysphoria?! | |||
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"Word it how you like. It’s not an optional thing you are as you are. Thanks for clearing that up
Out of interest why would it bother you how somebody else wishes to be seen?
Because what people wish is not relevant. I can wish to live on the moon. Ain’t going to happen is it.
Yeah but I don't feel bothered by your desire either. I'm sure most wouldn't.
Just seems weird that people get upset by this. I'm curious as to what it is about it that bothers you?
To reply to that would take a long message deviating on and off topic to fully understand it, it goes bigger than thinking you can choose your sex. As much as I would like to have a mature debate. I’m sure my comments would be seen are “far right” and I do not have time to reply to everyone who would say I’m discriminating or narrow minded. It’s not a topic I’m passionate about but it’s my view and opinion, the irony is if we did discuss this further on here I would be slated and my view and opinion would be wrong, but yet I would have to accept the other people’s views and opinions. "Wouldn't it be easier just to say it? I'm not calling you anything. I'm just interested in why it bothers people. | |||
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Out of interest why would it bother you how somebody else wishes to be seen?
Because what people wish is not relevant. I can wish to live on the moon. Ain’t going to happen is it. "How are the 2 remotely comparable? | |||
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"This shouldn’t even be a topic of conversation, science and biology dictates all you need to know about this Do you refer to the science behind gender dysphoria?! " Mental illness | |||
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"This shouldn’t even be a topic of conversation, science and biology dictates all you need to know about this Do you refer to the science behind gender dysphoria?! Mental illness " Scientifically proven and diagnosable condition supported by the medical professionals. You seem to be all for science. | |||
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"Word it how you like. It’s not an optional thing you are as you are. Thanks for clearing that up
Out of interest why would it bother you how somebody else wishes to be seen?
Because what people wish is not relevant. I can wish to live on the moon. Ain’t going to happen is it.
Yeah but I don't feel bothered by your desire either. I'm sure most wouldn't.
Just seems weird that people get upset by this. I'm curious as to what it is about it that bothers you?
To reply to that would take a long message deviating on and off topic to fully understand it, it goes bigger than thinking you can choose your sex. As much as I would like to have a mature debate. I’m sure my comments would be seen are “far right” and I do not have time to reply to everyone who would say I’m discriminating or narrow minded. It’s not a topic I’m passionate about but it’s my view and opinion, the irony is if we did discuss this further on here I would be slated and my view and opinion would be wrong, but yet I would have to accept the other people’s views and opinions.
Wouldn't it be easier just to say it? I'm not calling you anything. I'm just interested in why it bothers people.
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Because what people wish is not relevant. I can wish to live on the moon. Ain’t going to happen is it.
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"Is he/she allowed in ladies toilets?" What is he/she ? It’s only he or she and they have separate toilets | |||
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"Is he/she allowed in ladies toilets? You'd hope not surely. But theres another complexity. " I find this weird too. Why do we even need separate toilets? In France I'm free to piss in full view of anyone. Seems to work fine. What is it that necessitates separate spaces? | |||
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"Is he/she allowed in ladies toilets? What is he/she ? It’s only he or she and they have separate toilets " Well sometimes he is he and sometimes he chooses to be a she...! So when he decides he wants to be a she, should he be allowed in ladies toilet? | |||
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"What is "girl mode"?" I guess u could say it’s when a guy dolls himself up to look like a gurl - which seems to get other guys dicks hard and make them want to fuck the guy in disguise...! Prime example, can look passable and yes plenty guys incl. straight, married, etc. have enjoyed ducking their big dicks inside my holes & enjoyed themselves very much to make them want to cum back for more (& many of them do). Is why some women don’t like us guys in gurl mode very much, esp. those who’s man enjoys fucking gurls like me more than they do their female partners. | |||
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"Word it how you like. It’s not an optional thing you are as you are. Thanks for clearing that up
Out of interest why would it bother you how somebody else wishes to be seen?
Because what people wish is not relevant. I can wish to live on the moon. Ain’t going to happen is it.
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It’s not an optional thing. It’s not something you choose "Beg to differ, it’s not that simple or is it...!? A TV/TG who could easily pass as a female would probably be more welcum in a ladies toilet than she would in a gents!? I can’t picture being all dolled up standing in high heels next to a guy in gents at the urinals. Would be easier to use ladies toilets and no one would suspect anything...!? Yes complex subject matter...! I on the other hand couldn’t care less, be it TV, TG, CD, lesbian, gay, straight, etc. It’s only labels & it’s all good. Simple solution is unisex toilets...! | |||
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"Is he/she allowed in ladies toilets? You'd hope not surely. But theres another complexity. I find this weird too. Why do we even need separate toilets? In France I'm free to piss in full view of anyone. Seems to work fine. What is it that necessitates separate spaces?" I know this is a special site but why would you want to piss in full view of anyone? | |||
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"Is he/she allowed in ladies toilets? What is he/she ? It’s only he or she and they have separate toilets Well sometimes he is he and sometimes he chooses to be a she...! So when he decides he wants to be a she, should he be allowed in ladies toilet?
It’s not an optional thing. It’s not something you choose
Beg to differ, it’s not that simple or is it...!?
A TV/TG who could easily pass as a female would probably be more welcum in a ladies toilet than she would in a gents!?
I can’t picture being all dolled up standing in high heels next to a guy in gents at the urinals.
Would be easier to use ladies toilets and no one would suspect anything...!?
Yes complex subject matter...!
I on the other hand couldn’t care less, be it TV, TG, CD, lesbian, gay, straight, etc. It’s only labels & it’s all good.
Simple solution is unisex toilets...!"How can you beg to differ. It is simple. You are born either male or female and take away the tiny percentage cases you will argue. So if you are a male you use the gents if you are female you use the ladies. | |||
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"This shouldn’t even be a topic of conversation, science and biology dictates all you need to know about this Do you refer to the science behind gender dysphoria?! Mental illness " I'd say that irrational hatred of people you've never met, because of the clothes they wear, and your speculation about what their genitals might look like (no, we aren't ever going to show them to you) is a mental illness. | |||
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"Is he/she allowed in ladies toilets? What is he/she ? It’s only he or she and they have separate toilets Well sometimes he is he and sometimes he chooses to be a she...! So when he decides he wants to be a she, should he be allowed in ladies toilet?
It’s not an optional thing. It’s not something you choose
Beg to differ, it’s not that simple or is it...!?
A TV/TG who could easily pass as a female would probably be more welcum in a ladies toilet than she would in a gents!?
I can’t picture being all dolled up standing in high heels next to a guy in gents at the urinals.
Would be easier to use ladies toilets and no one would suspect anything...!?
Yes complex subject matter...!
I on the other hand couldn’t care less, be it TV, TG, CD, lesbian, gay, straight, etc. It’s only labels & it’s all good.
Simple solution is unisex toilets...!
How can you beg to differ. It is simple. You are born either male or female and take away the tiny percentage cases you will argue. So if you are a male you use the gents if you are female you use the ladies. "It's not that simple, gender dysphoria has been around for many many years it's only because we have a more open view in society that people don't need to hide away in shame through fear of the bigots and the actions that would be taken against them | |||
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"Is he/she allowed in ladies toilets? You'd hope not surely. But theres another complexity. I find this weird too. Why do we even need separate toilets? In France I'm free to piss in full view of anyone. Seems to work fine. What is it that necessitates separate spaces? I know this is a special site but why would you want to piss in full view of anyone? " I didn't.
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"This shouldn’t even be a topic of conversation, science and biology dictates all you need to know about this Do you refer to the science behind gender dysphoria?! Mental illness I'd say that irrational hatred of people you've never met, because of the clothes they wear, and your speculation about what their genitals might look like (no, we aren't ever going to show them to you) is a mental illness." Yep great one, and this is the standard. Who said I hated any people? Don’t recall saying that. I do recall saying it’s my view and opinion and I’m not that passionate about the topic. I don’t run around with a pitch fork or set up protests. I treat people based on how they treat me. I have no hatred to anyone but it’s my opinion. Also not saying my opinion is right but for me with the information, I have researched, my feelings on the topic it is. I’m not so obsessed or naive to think mine must be right, everyone has an opinion on it some the same some different. Your speculation of me apparently judging people on their genitals, I guess could be a mental illness for you then. | |||
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"Is he/she allowed in ladies toilets? What is he/she ? It’s only he or she and they have separate toilets Well sometimes he is he and sometimes he chooses to be a she...! So when he decides he wants to be a she, should he be allowed in ladies toilet?
It’s not an optional thing. It’s not something you choose
Beg to differ, it’s not that simple or is it...!?
A TV/TG who could easily pass as a female would probably be more welcum in a ladies toilet than she would in a gents!?
I can’t picture being all dolled up standing in high heels next to a guy in gents at the urinals.
Would be easier to use ladies toilets and no one would suspect anything...!?
Yes complex subject matter...!
I on the other hand couldn’t care less, be it TV, TG, CD, lesbian, gay, straight, etc. It’s only labels & it’s all good.
Simple solution is unisex toilets...!
How can you beg to differ. It is simple. You are born either male or female and take away the tiny percentage cases you will argue. So if you are a male you use the gents if you are female you use the ladies. "In an ideal World without bigots, etc. Yes I agree, it is simple. However, we do not live in an ideal World. Do some research to see the legal discourse and you will see it’s far from simple. | |||
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"What is "girl mode"? I guess u could say it’s when a guy dolls himself up to look like a gurl - which seems to get other guys dicks hard and make them want to fuck the guy in disguise...! Prime example, can look passable and yes plenty guys incl. straight, married, etc. have enjoyed ducking their big dicks inside my holes & enjoyed themselves very much to make them want to cum back for more (& many of them do). Is why some women don’t like us guys in gurl mode very much, esp. those who’s man enjoys fucking gurls like me more than they do their female partners." So "girl mode" is when a man wears stereotypically feminine clothes to emulate a sexualised woman's persona? And women don't like this because the only thing we care about in life is how fuckable we are? What a very ignorant male perspective. | |||
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"Is he/she allowed in ladies toilets? You'd hope not surely. But theres another complexity. I find this weird too. Why do we even need separate toilets? In France I'm free to piss in full view of anyone. Seems to work fine. What is it that necessitates separate spaces? I know this is a special site but why would you want to piss in full view of anyone? I didn't.
Kind of missed my point and didn't answer the question though. What's the need for separate loos? Loads of places don't have then nowadays."Ceiling to floor compartments would solve it yes I totally agree. But realistically gents bathrooms also tend to contain urinals? I'm not sure how effective that would be in unisex toilets? My local swimming baths has unisex changing areas/unisex showers. I've zero issues with either. In fact the only time I've seen anything expressed was in my other local baths where they have seperate sex changing rooms, and they put up a sign in the ladies showers asking folk to leave their swimming costumes on | |||
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"What is "girl mode"? I guess u could say it’s when a guy dolls himself up to look like a gurl - which seems to get other guys dicks hard and make them want to fuck the guy in disguise...! Prime example, can look passable and yes plenty guys incl. straight, married, etc. have enjoyed ducking their big dicks inside my holes & enjoyed themselves very much to make them want to cum back for more (& many of them do). Is why some women don’t like us guys in gurl mode very much, esp. those who’s man enjoys fucking gurls like me more than they do their female partners." Do you think this attitude is why many women are concerned for their safety in public toilets? | |||
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"What is "girl mode"? I guess u could say it’s when a guy dolls himself up to look like a gurl - which seems to get other guys dicks hard and make them want to fuck the guy in disguise...! Prime example, can look passable and yes plenty guys incl. straight, married, etc. have enjoyed ducking their big dicks inside my holes & enjoyed themselves very much to make them want to cum back for more (& many of them do). Is why some women don’t like us guys in gurl mode very much, esp. those who’s man enjoys fucking gurls like me more than they do their female partners. Do you think this attitude is why many women are concerned for their safety in public toilets?" Tbf, in public toilets I'm more concerned whether there's any soap so I can wash my hands, rather than whether or not there's two people fucking | |||
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"What is "girl mode"? I guess u could say it’s when a guy dolls himself up to look like a gurl - which seems to get other guys dicks hard and make them want to fuck the guy in disguise...! Prime example, can look passable and yes plenty guys incl. straight, married, etc. have enjoyed ducking their big dicks inside my holes & enjoyed themselves very much to make them want to cum back for more (& many of them do). Is why some women don’t like us guys in gurl mode very much, esp. those who’s man enjoys fucking gurls like me more than they do their female partners. Do you think this attitude is why many women are concerned for their safety in public toilets? Tbf, in public toilets I'm more concerned whether there's any soap so I can wash my hands, rather than whether or not there's two people fucking"  | |||
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"What is "girl mode"? I guess u could say it’s when a guy dolls himself up to look like a gurl - which seems to get other guys dicks hard and make them want to fuck the guy in disguise...! Prime example, can look passable and yes plenty guys incl. straight, married, etc. have enjoyed ducking their big dicks inside my holes & enjoyed themselves very much to make them want to cum back for more (& many of them do). Is why some women don’t like us guys in gurl mode very much, esp. those who’s man enjoys fucking gurls like me more than they do their female partners. Do you think this attitude is why many women are concerned for their safety in public toilets? Tbf, in public toilets I'm more concerned whether there's any soap so I can wash my hands, rather than whether or not there's two people fucking" It's more the threat of being sexually assaulted that makes me not want to share enclosed, isolated spaces with unknown penises. Maybe when men stop using them as weapons against us I'll be a bit more relaxed. | |||
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"What is "girl mode"? I guess u could say it’s when a guy dolls himself up to look like a gurl - which seems to get other guys dicks hard and make them want to fuck the guy in disguise...! Prime example, can look passable and yes plenty guys incl. straight, married, etc. have enjoyed ducking their big dicks inside my holes & enjoyed themselves very much to make them want to cum back for more (& many of them do). Is why some women don’t like us guys in gurl mode very much, esp. those who’s man enjoys fucking gurls like me more than they do their female partners. Do you think this attitude is why many women are concerned for their safety in public toilets? Tbf, in public toilets I'm more concerned whether there's any soap so I can wash my hands, rather than whether or not there's two people fucking It's more the threat of being sexually assaulted that makes me not want to share enclosed, isolated spaces with unknown penises. Maybe when men stop using them as weapons against us I'll be a bit more relaxed." Cis men don't transition to still attack women with their penises. Trans women don't transition to attack people in toilets. Your problem is with men, not trans women | |||
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"What is "girl mode"? I guess u could say it’s when a guy dolls himself up to look like a gurl - which seems to get other guys dicks hard and make them want to fuck the guy in disguise...! Prime example, can look passable and yes plenty guys incl. straight, married, etc. have enjoyed ducking their big dicks inside my holes & enjoyed themselves very much to make them want to cum back for more (& many of them do). Is why some women don’t like us guys in gurl mode very much, esp. those who’s man enjoys fucking gurls like me more than they do their female partners. Do you think this attitude is why many women are concerned for their safety in public toilets? Tbf, in public toilets I'm more concerned whether there's any soap so I can wash my hands, rather than whether or not there's two people fucking It's more the threat of being sexually assaulted that makes me not want to share enclosed, isolated spaces with unknown penises. Maybe when men stop using them as weapons against us I'll be a bit more relaxed. Cis men don't transition to still attack women with their penises. Trans women don't transition to attack people in toilets. Your problem is with men, not trans women" Throughout history, predatory men have abused any opportunity to get access to women and children. They've became priests, sports coaches, teachers etc. Putting on a pair of fucking kitten heels and some eyeliner shouldn't be too much of a stretch. | |||
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"What is "girl mode"? I guess u could say it’s when a guy dolls himself up to look like a gurl - which seems to get other guys dicks hard and make them want to fuck the guy in disguise...! Prime example, can look passable and yes plenty guys incl. straight, married, etc. have enjoyed ducking their big dicks inside my holes & enjoyed themselves very much to make them want to cum back for more (& many of them do). Is why some women don’t like us guys in gurl mode very much, esp. those who’s man enjoys fucking gurls like me more than they do their female partners. Do you think this attitude is why many women are concerned for their safety in public toilets? Tbf, in public toilets I'm more concerned whether there's any soap so I can wash my hands, rather than whether or not there's two people fucking It's more the threat of being sexually assaulted that makes me not want to share enclosed, isolated spaces with unknown penises. Maybe when men stop using them as weapons against us I'll be a bit more relaxed. Cis men don't transition to still attack women with their penises. Trans women don't transition to attack people in toilets. Your problem is with men, not trans women Throughout history, predatory men have abused any opportunity to get access to women and children. They've became priests, sports coaches, teachers etc. Putting on a pair of fucking kitten heels and some eyeliner shouldn't be too much of a stretch." And putting on a pair of fucking kitten heels and some eyeliner doesn't make them a trans woman. There's a big difference that you're missing there! | |||
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" Ceiling to floor compartments would solve it yes I totally agree. But realistically gents bathrooms also tend to contain urinals? I'm not sure how effective that would be in unisex toilets? My local swimming baths has unisex changing areas/unisex showers. I've zero issues with either. In fact the only time I've seen anything expressed was in my other local baths where they have seperate sex changing rooms, and they put up a sign in the ladies showers asking folk to leave their swimming costumes on " I used several unisex toilets in the summer in which there were urinals and also cubicles. Women just walked past the urinals. Didn't appear to bother anyone. Possibly the culture is different and people don't consider penises as weapons/dirty/perverted etc. etc. | |||
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"What is "girl mode"? I guess u could say it’s when a guy dolls himself up to look like a gurl - which seems to get other guys dicks hard and make them want to fuck the guy in disguise...! Prime example, can look passable and yes plenty guys incl. straight, married, etc. have enjoyed ducking their big dicks inside my holes & enjoyed themselves very much to make them want to cum back for more (& many of them do). Is why some women don’t like us guys in gurl mode very much, esp. those who’s man enjoys fucking gurls like me more than they do their female partners. Do you think this attitude is why many women are concerned for their safety in public toilets? Tbf, in public toilets I'm more concerned whether there's any soap so I can wash my hands, rather than whether or not there's two people fucking It's more the threat of being sexually assaulted that makes me not want to share enclosed, isolated spaces with unknown penises. Maybe when men stop using them as weapons against us I'll be a bit more relaxed. Cis men don't transition to still attack women with their penises. Trans women don't transition to attack people in toilets. Your problem is with men, not trans women Throughout history, predatory men have abused any opportunity to get access to women and children. They've became priests, sports coaches, teachers etc. Putting on a pair of fucking kitten heels and some eyeliner shouldn't be too much of a stretch." Do we stop men from being priests, sports coaches, teachers etc based on the number of confirmed predatory men that have been identified in these professions? | |||
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"What is "girl mode"? I guess u could say it’s when a guy dolls himself up to look like a gurl - which seems to get other guys dicks hard and make them want to fuck the guy in disguise...! Prime example, can look passable and yes plenty guys incl. straight, married, etc. have enjoyed ducking their big dicks inside my holes & enjoyed themselves very much to make them want to cum back for more (& many of them do). Is why some women don’t like us guys in gurl mode very much, esp. those who’s man enjoys fucking gurls like me more than they do their female partners. Do you think this attitude is why many women are concerned for their safety in public toilets? Tbf, in public toilets I'm more concerned whether there's any soap so I can wash my hands, rather than whether or not there's two people fucking It's more the threat of being sexually assaulted that makes me not want to share enclosed, isolated spaces with unknown penises. Maybe when men stop using them as weapons against us I'll be a bit more relaxed. Cis men don't transition to still attack women with their penises. Trans women don't transition to attack people in toilets. Your problem is with men, not trans women" Nobody said "cis men transition to attack women". But lots of men who transition for other reasons do attack women. This isn't me making up crap to support my argument, it's real and it's very easy to find stories and statistics if you actually look. | |||
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" Nobody said "cis men transition to attack women". But lots of men who transition for other reasons do attack women. This isn't me making up crap to support my argument, it's real and it's very easy to find stories and statistics if you actually look." Can you point me in the direction of where to find those stats? I looked but what I found concluded offending rates were no different to the general male population. Obviously that in itself is too high but interested to know more. | |||
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"What is "girl mode"? I guess u could say it’s when a guy dolls himself up to look like a gurl - which seems to get other guys dicks hard and make them want to fuck the guy in disguise...! Prime example, can look passable and yes plenty guys incl. straight, married, etc. have enjoyed ducking their big dicks inside my holes & enjoyed themselves very much to make them want to cum back for more (& many of them do). Is why some women don’t like us guys in gurl mode very much, esp. those who’s man enjoys fucking gurls like me more than they do their female partners. So "girl mode" is when a man wears stereotypically feminine clothes to emulate a sexualised woman's persona? And women don't like this because the only thing we care about in life is how fuckable we are? What a very ignorant male perspective."
They’re your words not mine. My opinion was more associated with ladies having an issue with their life long partners who seem to stray & enjoy fucking CD’s etc. More to do with jealousy than you making it out to be males seeing women simply as fuckdoll fucktoys.
In truth, I’ve more respect for ladies than men but you’ll not believe me so needn’t waste my time trying to convince u or anybody else for that matter.
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"Do we need separate lists for women and men anymore? Why does it matter what genitals you have? The only thing that matters is will that person be competent at being an MP. " I don’t think it matters what genitals you have. But yes I’m my opinion there should be separate lists for men and woman. We are different entities with different attributes. | |||
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"What is "girl mode"? I guess u could say it’s when a guy dolls himself up to look like a gurl - which seems to get other guys dicks hard and make them want to fuck the guy in disguise...! Prime example, can look passable and yes plenty guys incl. straight, married, etc. have enjoyed ducking their big dicks inside my holes & enjoyed themselves very much to make them want to cum back for more (& many of them do). Is why some women don’t like us guys in gurl mode very much, esp. those who’s man enjoys fucking gurls like me more than they do their female partners. So "girl mode" is when a man wears stereotypically feminine clothes to emulate a sexualised woman's persona? And women don't like this because the only thing we care about in life is how fuckable we are? What a very ignorant male perspective. I totally agree with your view on this statement though. Very ignorant and doesn't help anyone saying shit like this. This person doesn't speak for trans women and the trans women I know definitely don't hold this opinion." You’re both making this out to be something it’s not by distorting what has been said, it’s nothing to do with change in persona etc. but the opinion is more related to do with why women are jealous of their male counterpart enjoying sex with CD’s etc. more than their partners. Is fact, because I’ve been with a good few couples and had great times but have also been invited by couples to only find the male there who has enjoyed fucking me very much and left me lovely verifications which I then had to later remove on request because their female partner got jealous - even had the male apologise to me with them saying “women”. Please don’t make this out to be something it’s not and maybe try andwering question why most women don’t like us CD’s, TV/TG, or whatever the fuck label you want to give it. I’ve no time for labels and have respect for as I see a human being not male, female, trans. etc. It’s all good. | |||
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" Nobody said "cis men transition to attack women". But lots of men who transition for other reasons do attack women. This isn't me making up crap to support my argument, it's real and it's very easy to find stories and statistics if you actually look. Can you point me in the direction of where to find those stats? I looked but what I found concluded offending rates were no different to the general male population. Obviously that in itself is too high but interested to know more."
it’s all crap, a bit like the accusations made by that bat shit crazy bitch in Johnny Depp case...! | |||
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" Nobody said "cis men transition to attack women". But lots of men who transition for other reasons do attack women. This isn't me making up crap to support my argument, it's real and it's very easy to find stories and statistics if you actually look. Can you point me in the direction of where to find those stats? I looked but what I found concluded offending rates were no different to the general male population. Obviously that in itself is too high but interested to know more." This is pretty informative: https://fairplayforwomen.com/transgender-male-criminality-sex-offences/ https://www.tumblr.com/theysaythisneverhappens Offending at the same rate as "cis" men is precisely the problem. We have segregated spaces from men because so many women are ra ped or assaulted by men. Yet if they claim to be women we're meant to happily give up those protections in case someone's feelings are hurt? Fuck that. I know how it feels to have my body violated and if I have to speak the unpalatable truth and put up with being called a bigot or a terf to stop another woman knowing that pain then I'm going to do it. | |||
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" Nobody said "cis men transition to attack women". But lots of men who transition for other reasons do attack women. This isn't me making up crap to support my argument, it's real and it's very easy to find stories and statistics if you actually look. Can you point me in the direction of where to find those stats? I looked but what I found concluded offending rates were no different to the general male population. Obviously that in itself is too high but interested to know more.
it’s all crap, a bit like the accusations made by that bat shit crazy bitch in Johnny Depp case...!"You're just showing yourself up for the misogynist you are. It is vanishingly rare for women to lie about being abused. Do you have any idea how we're treated when we speak out? It isn't flowers and hugs and sympathy. Far from it. Nobody puts themselves through that hell just for clout. | |||
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" Nobody said "cis men transition to attack women". But lots of men who transition for other reasons do attack women. This isn't me making up crap to support my argument, it's real and it's very easy to find stories and statistics if you actually look. Can you point me in the direction of where to find those stats? I looked but what I found concluded offending rates were no different to the general male population. Obviously that in itself is too high but interested to know more. This is pretty informative: https://fairplayforwomen.com/transgender-male-criminality-sex-offences/ https://www.tumblr.com/theysaythisneverhappens Offending at the same rate as "cis" men is precisely the problem. We have segregated spaces from men because so many women are ra ped or assaulted by men. Yet if they claim to be women we're meant to happily give up those protections in case someone's feelings are hurt? Fuck that. I know how it feels to have my body violated and if I have to speak the unpalatable truth and put up with being called a bigot or a terf to stop another woman knowing that pain then I'm going to do it." I’m sorry to hear you know what it’s like, no one should put up with that and the penalty should be severe. No means no. I’ve been fortunate to have never cum across anyone so displeasing & admit all the CD, TG/TV, etc. I know & have met are the loveliest peeps I’ve met and would never harm anyone. Most of us on here are simply here to have NSA discreet fun. We are not here to cause a rift & certainly not here to be a distraction to married couples. In truth, we prefer not to meet married men if they are going behind their partners back. | |||
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" Nobody said "cis men transition to attack women". But lots of men who transition for other reasons do attack women. This isn't me making up crap to support my argument, it's real and it's very easy to find stories and statistics if you actually look. Can you point me in the direction of where to find those stats? I looked but what I found concluded offending rates were no different to the general male population. Obviously that in itself is too high but interested to know more.
it’s all crap, a bit like the accusations made by that bat shit crazy bitch in Johnny Depp case...!
You're just showing yourself up for the misogynist you are. It is vanishingly rare for women to lie about being abused. Do you have any idea how we're treated when we speak out? It isn't flowers and hugs and sympathy. Far from it. Nobody puts themselves through that hell just for clout."We can but agree to disagree. However, a misogynist I am not. I luv and have utmost respect for women. Thank you. | |||
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"A shortlist for what Tom ? It matters before anyone can answer. A shortlist for what ?" Shortlist for causing outrage in the Daily Mail comments section. | |||
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it’s all crap, a bit like the accusations made by that bat shit crazy bitch in Johnny Depp case...!
You're just showing yourself up for the misogynist you are. It is vanishingly rare for women to lie about being abused. Do you have any idea how we're treated when we speak out? It isn't flowers and hugs and sympathy. Far from it. Nobody puts themselves through that hell just for clout."Amber Heard did...! | |||
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"No he shouldn't. Eddie goes by She, but I suspect you know that." Tom goes by the name Tom.. | |||
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"No he shouldn't. Eddie goes by She, but I suspect you know that. Tom goes by the name Tom.." So you're saying people should be addressed the way they would like people to address them? | |||
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" Nobody said "cis men transition to attack women". But lots of men who transition for other reasons do attack women. This isn't me making up crap to support my argument, it's real and it's very easy to find stories and statistics if you actually look. Can you point me in the direction of where to find those stats? I looked but what I found concluded offending rates were no different to the general male population. Obviously that in itself is too high but interested to know more. This is pretty informative: https://fairplayforwomen.com/transgender-male-criminality-sex-offences/ https://www.tumblr.com/theysaythisneverhappens Offending at the same rate as "cis" men is precisely the problem. We have segregated spaces from men because so many women are ra ped or assaulted by men. Yet if they claim to be women we're meant to happily give up those protections in case someone's feelings are hurt? Fuck that. I know how it feels to have my body violated and if I have to speak the unpalatable truth and put up with being called a bigot or a terf to stop another woman knowing that pain then I'm going to do it." I agree that offending at the same rate is problematic (if that is the case). I'd have assumed it would be much lower. I don't agree it justifies a need for single sex spaces. Neither do I think it's useful to have a culture which insinuates all men are potential predators. | |||
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"No he shouldn't. Eddie goes by She, but I suspect you know that. Tom goes by the name Tom.. So you're saying people should be addressed the way they would like people to address them?" I'd like to be called Dr please. | |||
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"No he shouldn't. Eddie goes by She, but I suspect you know that. Tom goes by the name Tom.. So you're saying people should be addressed the way they would like people to address them? I'd like to be called Dr please. " Like Dr Fox? | |||
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"No he shouldn't. Eddie goes by She, but I suspect you know that. Tom goes by the name Tom.." So that's why I call you Tom. | |||
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"No he shouldn't. Eddie goes by She, but I suspect you know that. Tom goes by the name Tom.. So you're saying people should be addressed the way they would like people to address them? I'd like to be called Dr please. " Sure, just like Dr Dre. | |||
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"I don't know if it's the colder, darker nights, or what, but parts of Fab have been vile the last few days." It always is. I've never seen as much hate anywhere else. But then again, I'm not on any social media. | |||
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"No he shouldn't. Eddie goes by She, but I suspect you know that. Tom goes by the name Tom.. So you're saying people should be addressed the way they would like people to address them? I'd like to be called Dr please. Sure, just like Dr Dre." I wish! If I get called him. Do I get some of his talent!? | |||
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"I don't know if it's the colder, darker nights, or what, but parts of Fab have been vile the last few days. It always is. I've never seen as much hate anywhere else. But then again, I'm not on any social media." Yeah I've noticed there's some quite nasty bullying happening. It's a shame that genuine interesting debates can't be had without resorting to name calling or insulting | |||
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"What is "girl mode"? I guess u could say it’s when a guy dolls himself up to look like a gurl - which seems to get other guys dicks hard and make them want to fuck the guy in disguise...! Prime example, can look passable and yes plenty guys incl. straight, married, etc. have enjoyed ducking their big dicks inside my holes & enjoyed themselves very much to make them want to cum back for more (& many of them do). Is why some women don’t like us guys in gurl mode very much, esp. those who’s man enjoys fucking gurls like me more than they do their female partners. Do you think this attitude is why many women are concerned for their safety in public toilets? Tbf, in public toilets I'm more concerned whether there's any soap so I can wash my hands, rather than whether or not there's two people fucking It's more the threat of being sexually assaulted that makes me not want to share enclosed, isolated spaces with unknown penises. Maybe when men stop using them as weapons against us I'll be a bit more relaxed. Cis men don't transition to still attack women with their penises. Trans women don't transition to attack people in toilets. Your problem is with men, not trans women Throughout history, predatory men have abused any opportunity to get access to women and children. They've became priests, sports coaches, teachers etc. Putting on a pair of fucking kitten heels and some eyeliner shouldn't be too much of a stretch. And putting on a pair of fucking kitten heels and some eyeliner doesn't make them a trans woman. There's a big difference that you're missing there!" Ah yes. I'm forgetting that what makes them a woman is them simply declaring they're a woman. | |||
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"What is "girl mode"? I guess u could say it’s when a guy dolls himself up to look like a gurl - which seems to get other guys dicks hard and make them want to fuck the guy in disguise...! Prime example, can look passable and yes plenty guys incl. straight, married, etc. have enjoyed ducking their big dicks inside my holes & enjoyed themselves very much to make them want to cum back for more (& many of them do). Is why some women don’t like us guys in gurl mode very much, esp. those who’s man enjoys fucking gurls like me more than they do their female partners. Do you think this attitude is why many women are concerned for their safety in public toilets? Tbf, in public toilets I'm more concerned whether there's any soap so I can wash my hands, rather than whether or not there's two people fucking It's more the threat of being sexually assaulted that makes me not want to share enclosed, isolated spaces with unknown penises. Maybe when men stop using them as weapons against us I'll be a bit more relaxed. Cis men don't transition to still attack women with their penises. Trans women don't transition to attack people in toilets. Your problem is with men, not trans women Throughout history, predatory men have abused any opportunity to get access to women and children. They've became priests, sports coaches, teachers etc. Putting on a pair of fucking kitten heels and some eyeliner shouldn't be too much of a stretch. And putting on a pair of fucking kitten heels and some eyeliner doesn't make them a trans woman. There's a big difference that you're missing there! Ah yes. I'm forgetting that what makes them a woman is them simply declaring they're a woman. " Probably sums it up. | |||
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" Nobody said "cis men transition to attack women". But lots of men who transition for other reasons do attack women. This isn't me making up crap to support my argument, it's real and it's very easy to find stories and statistics if you actually look. Can you point me in the direction of where to find those stats? I looked but what I found concluded offending rates were no different to the general male population. Obviously that in itself is too high but interested to know more. This is pretty informative: https://fairplayforwomen.com/transgender-male-criminality-sex-offences/ https://www.tumblr.com/theysaythisneverhappens Offending at the same rate as "cis" men is precisely the problem. We have segregated spaces from men because so many women are ra ped or assaulted by men. Yet if they claim to be women we're meant to happily give up those protections in case someone's feelings are hurt? Fuck that. I know how it feels to have my body violated and if I have to speak the unpalatable truth and put up with being called a bigot or a terf to stop another woman knowing that pain then I'm going to do it. I agree that offending at the same rate is problematic (if that is the case). I'd have assumed it would be much lower. I don't agree it justifies a need for single sex spaces. Neither do I think it's useful to have a culture which insinuates all men are potential predators. " So because not all men are predators we should just let them in to women's safe spaces? The issue isn't trans women, the issue is men pretending to be trans. | |||
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" Nobody said "cis men transition to attack women". But lots of men who transition for other reasons do attack women. This isn't me making up crap to support my argument, it's real and it's very easy to find stories and statistics if you actually look. Can you point me in the direction of where to find those stats? I looked but what I found concluded offending rates were no different to the general male population. Obviously that in itself is too high but interested to know more. This is pretty informative: https://fairplayforwomen.com/transgender-male-criminality-sex-offences/ https://www.tumblr.com/theysaythisneverhappens Offending at the same rate as "cis" men is precisely the problem. We have segregated spaces from men because so many women are ra ped or assaulted by men. Yet if they claim to be women we're meant to happily give up those protections in case someone's feelings are hurt? Fuck that. I know how it feels to have my body violated and if I have to speak the unpalatable truth and put up with being called a bigot or a terf to stop another woman knowing that pain then I'm going to do it. I agree that offending at the same rate is problematic (if that is the case). I'd have assumed it would be much lower. I don't agree it justifies a need for single sex spaces. Neither do I think it's useful to have a culture which insinuates all men are potential predators. So because not all men are predators we should just let them in to women's safe spaces? The issue isn't trans women, the issue is men pretending to be trans. " But we don't do the same for all other areas where men predate others, not just women. We don't stop them bring father's or husband's, it as mentioned previously priests, teachers, sports coaches. In fact we don't stop them going out for the night with friends or go on dates or drive taxis. | |||
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