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"What mileage do all the other MOT's say?" 20 September 2022 - 77k 4 January 2022 - 63.5k 4 January 2021 - 53.5k | |||
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"What car service says 72 or 77 mistakes can happen if genuinely go with the mot milage but if you go on dvla you can check it against previous miles." The dash on the car says 72k. They sent me a photo showing it today. | |||
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"You say it's a main dealer your buying it from if so I'd say honest mistake.if clocks and service have same milage it's probably mot mis read " Clock - 72k Service - 77k MOT - 77k | |||
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"What mileage do all the other MOT's say? 20 September 2022 - 77k 4 January 2022 - 63.5k 4 January 2021 - 53.5k" looks like a genuine error & won't matter in the long term, if you are going to wind back the clock you wind it back a lot more than 5000 miles ! | |||
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"What mileage do all the other MOT's say? 20 September 2022 - 77k 4 January 2022 - 63.5k 4 January 2021 - 53.5k looks like a genuine error & won't matter in the long term, if you are going to wind back the clock you wind it back a lot more than 5000 miles !" Yeah, I don’t think there’s anything suspicious or wrong. Surely they can sort it as it’s their problem and not mine? Ok, it’s hassle for them to sort but surely they need to sort it rather than sell it to me and fob me off with that excuse? | |||
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"What mileage do all the other MOT's say? 20 September 2022 - 77k 4 January 2022 - 63.5k 4 January 2021 - 53.5k looks like a genuine error & won't matter in the long term, if you are going to wind back the clock you wind it back a lot more than 5000 miles ! Yeah, I don’t think there’s anything suspicious or wrong. Surely they can sort it as it’s their problem and not mine? Ok, it’s hassle for them to sort but surely they need to sort it rather than sell it to me and fob me off with that excuse?" Not sure there's much they can do to "sort" it other than cross out the 2 and write a 7 in the book... 
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"What mileage do all the other MOT's say? 20 September 2022 - 77k 4 January 2022 - 63.5k 4 January 2021 - 53.5k looks like a genuine error & won't matter in the long term, if you are going to wind back the clock you wind it back a lot more than 5000 miles ! Yeah, I don’t think there’s anything suspicious or wrong. Surely they can sort it as it’s their problem and not mine? Ok, it’s hassle for them to sort but surely they need to sort it rather than sell it to me and fob me off with that excuse? Not sure there's much they can do to "sort" it other than cross out the 2 and write a 7 in the book...
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"What mileage do all the other MOT's say? 20 September 2022 - 77k 4 January 2022 - 63.5k 4 January 2021 - 53.5k looks like a genuine error & won't matter in the long term, if you are going to wind back the clock you wind it back a lot more than 5000 miles ! Yeah, I don’t think there’s anything suspicious or wrong. Surely they can sort it as it’s their problem and not mine? Ok, it’s hassle for them to sort but surely they need to sort it rather than sell it to me and fob me off with that excuse? Not sure there's much they can do to "sort" it other than cross out the 2 and write a 7 in the book...
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"Ask them to do another MOT to rectify it?" Hmmm…. Good idea but that’ll make a bigger mess of it though I guess? | |||
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"Should be able to get the mileage from the ECU on newer vehicles so ask the dealer to plug their diagnostic machine in to retrieve the correct milage and if it tallys with the display reading alls good but if dash reading is lower than ECU mileage then its been clocked which in itself is an offence so walk away and find another car." Surely they need to sort the milage with the DVSA so it’s sorted before I take ownership of the car? | |||
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"Disclaimer I know nada about cars but I do know bikes. If this was a bike I would zero in on whether it is approaching an expensive service around the 80k mark (eg valve clearances). Frankly I would in any case require my deposit back an walk away. At best it’s speaks to carelessness (sorry but if ya can’t enter a fucking number correctly I don’t want you near the brakes) at worst the car is clocked or even a cut n shut. " Yeap, the Cam belt and Aux belt need doing 90k so it is a bit fishy. I doubt they will have clocked it but all the paperwork and issue will be in my lap and not theirs. I feel like digging my heals in and saying “your mistake, you need to sort it, not me”. | |||
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"What mileage do all the other MOT's say? 20 September 2022 - 77k 4 January 2022 - 63.5k 4 January 2021 - 53.5k" I’m not an expert on these matters and no doubt someone will correct me if I am wrong but……. If it had an mot on 4 January 22 then the soonest it can have another one is 4 December 22. Why has it had one in September. I’m sure my mot certificate say ‘the soonest this vehicle can be tested is 1 month before it’s expiry. | |||
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"What mileage do all the other MOT's say? 20 September 2022 - 77k 4 January 2022 - 63.5k 4 January 2021 - 53.5k I’m not an expert on these matters and no doubt someone will correct me if I am wrong but……. If it had an mot on 4 January 22 then the soonest it can have another one is 4 December 22. Why has it had one in September. I’m sure my mot certificate say ‘the soonest this vehicle can be tested is 1 month before it’s expiry. " MOT’s can be done whenever it’s just you waste your money getting them done too soon because you say, they can’t date the expiry further than 30 days in the future. In this case, the dealership (and many other dealerships) have a policy that says… “if the MOT is less expiry is than 9 months away, we’ll put a fresh one on for you so there’s peace of mind and assurance in your purchase” | |||
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"What mileage do all the other MOT's say? 20 September 2022 - 77k 4 January 2022 - 63.5k 4 January 2021 - 53.5k I’m not an expert on these matters and no doubt someone will correct me if I am wrong but……. If it had an mot on 4 January 22 then the soonest it can have another one is 4 December 22. Why has it had one in September. I’m sure my mot certificate say ‘the soonest this vehicle can be tested is 1 month before it’s expiry. " 28 days I think before the renewal date the whole thing sounds fishy I'd walk away | |||
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"What mileage do all the other MOT's say? 20 September 2022 - 77k 4 January 2022 - 63.5k 4 January 2021 - 53.5k I’m not an expert on these matters and no doubt someone will correct me if I am wrong but……. If it had an mot on 4 January 22 then the soonest it can have another one is 4 December 22. Why has it had one in September. I’m sure my mot certificate say ‘the soonest this vehicle can be tested is 1 month before it’s expiry. MOT’s can be done whenever it’s just you waste your money getting them done too soon because you say, they can’t date the expiry further than 30 days in the future. In this case, the dealership (and many other dealerships) have a policy that says… “if the MOT is less expiry is than 9 months away, we’ll put a fresh one on for you so there’s peace of mind and assurance in your purchase”" That sorted that. 
If you think things don’t add up why not give your local trading standards a phone call and ask for their opinion. | |||
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"What mileage do all the other MOT's say? 20 September 2022 - 77k 4 January 2022 - 63.5k 4 January 2021 - 53.5k I’m not an expert on these matters and no doubt someone will correct me if I am wrong but……. If it had an mot on 4 January 22 then the soonest it can have another one is 4 December 22. Why has it had one in September. I’m sure my mot certificate say ‘the soonest this vehicle can be tested is 1 month before it’s expiry. MOT’s can be done whenever it’s just you waste your money getting them done too soon because you say, they can’t date the expiry further than 30 days in the future. In this case, the dealership (and many other dealerships) have a policy that says… “if the MOT is less expiry is than 9 months away, we’ll put a fresh one on for you so there’s peace of mind and assurance in your purchase” That sorted that.
If you think things don’t add up why not give your local trading standards a phone call and ask for their opinion. "Yeah, could do but I think best thing might be to get them to sort their own mess out. If they want to sell me the car then I think they need to get the paperwork sorted. If it’s all genuine then they’ll successfully do it. If it’s not genuine then they’ll struggle I guess. | |||
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"It’s a mis-entry and the whilst the MOT is a legally binding document mistakes do happen, there’s nothing you can do, they won’t re Mot it because there is no legal obligation to do so by the garage and plus you as the owner have no obligation to rectify someone else’s mistake, enjoy the car " I’ve only paid the deposit and not the balance or collected it. By the looks of it, as you say, mistakes happen. It also looks like they should and could be able to sort the mistake with the DVSA. I think they should have the headache sorting it and not me that’s all. | |||
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"What mileage do all the other MOT's say? 20 September 2022 - 77k 4 January 2022 - 63.5k 4 January 2021 - 53.5k I’m not an expert on these matters and no doubt someone will correct me if I am wrong but……. If it had an mot on 4 January 22 then the soonest it can have another one is 4 December 22. Why has it had one in September. I’m sure my mot certificate say ‘the soonest this vehicle can be tested is 1 month before it’s expiry. 28 days I think before the renewal date the whole thing sounds fishy I'd walk away " That's only if you want to preserve the anniversary of the test. You can present a car for MOT whenever you like, but if you present it more than 28 days before the anniversary, you will "lose" that month. For example, an MOT certificate expires on 1st September. If you present for MOT between 1-28 days before 1st September, then the renewal date for the next year will be 1st September, even if the test was carried out on, say, 28th August. However, if you choose to present the car more than 28 days before 1st September, for example, on 30th July, then the test can be done but the renewal date will be on 30th July the next year. The notice you get on the certificate says "the earliest you can present the vehicle for MOT is 28 days before the date on this certificate, to preserve the anniversary of the certificate" (or words to that effect). If you don't mind "wasting" a month or more of MOT time, then you could choose to have an MOT three times a year if you really wanted to. | |||
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"It’s a mis-entry and the whilst the MOT is a legally binding document mistakes do happen, there’s nothing you can do, they won’t re Mot it because there is no legal obligation to do so by the garage and plus you as the owner have no obligation to rectify someone else’s mistake, enjoy the car I’ve only paid the deposit and not the balance or collected it. By the looks of it, as you say, mistakes happen. It also looks like they should and could be able to sort the mistake with the DVSA. I think they should have the headache sorting it and not me that’s all." Do NOT buy the car before getting paperwork with accurate mileage on. I made the mistake of Arnold Clark selling me a car that had the wrong trim described on its V5 document. Sounds minor?! No. It's not! Every time I need new parts, you enter the reg into the online parts market and it shows you parts for a completely different trim to mine. Quite a lot of the parts are different. That's one minor issue. My car should have slightly higher value as one of the highest level of trim, but I can only insure it as a low-mid range trim. Despite the VIN being associated with the CORRECT trim, I still, 6yrs after purchase, have not managed to persuade either Renault or Arnold Clark to update things with the DVSA. The car will soon be so old that it won't matter so much, but it's been a bit of a ball ache and the dealers could NOT give one shit if they inconvenience you. If you come to sell the car and it looks like it's clocked, you will be the one losing significant value. Don't buy it. | |||
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"What mileage do all the other MOT's say? 20 September 2022 - 77k 4 January 2022 - 63.5k 4 January 2021 - 53.5k I’m not an expert on these matters and no doubt someone will correct me if I am wrong but……. If it had an mot on 4 January 22 then the soonest it can have another one is 4 December 22. Why has it had one in September. I’m sure my mot certificate say ‘the soonest this vehicle can be tested is 1 month before it’s expiry. 28 days I think before the renewal date the whole thing sounds fishy I'd walk away That's only if you want to preserve the anniversary of the test. You can present a car for MOT whenever you like, but if you present it more than 28 days before the anniversary, you will "lose" that month. For example, an MOT certificate expires on 1st September. If you present for MOT between 1-28 days before 1st September, then the renewal date for the next year will be 1st September, even if the test was carried out on, say, 28th August. However, if you choose to present the car more than 28 days before 1st September, for example, on 30th July, then the test can be done but the renewal date will be on 30th July the next year. The notice you get on the certificate says "the earliest you can present the vehicle for MOT is 28 days before the date on this certificate, to preserve the anniversary of the certificate" (or words to that effect). If you don't mind "wasting" a month or more of MOT time, then you could choose to have an MOT three times a year if you really wanted to." OP just put me straight.
A garage selling a car with different mileage on mot to what’s on the car still sounds dodgy to me.
Surely if the wrong information is put into mot system there must be a procedure to rectify this, if they have not followed that procedure then why not. | |||
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"It’s a mis-entry and the whilst the MOT is a legally binding document mistakes do happen, there’s nothing you can do, they won’t re Mot it because there is no legal obligation to do so by the garage and plus you as the owner have no obligation to rectify someone else’s mistake, enjoy the car I’ve only paid the deposit and not the balance or collected it. By the looks of it, as you say, mistakes happen. It also looks like they should and could be able to sort the mistake with the DVSA. I think they should have the headache sorting it and not me that’s all. Do NOT buy the car before getting paperwork with accurate mileage on. I made the mistake of Arnold Clark selling me a car that had the wrong trim described on its V5 document. Sounds minor?! No. It's not! Every time I need new parts, you enter the reg into the online parts market and it shows you parts for a completely different trim to mine. Quite a lot of the parts are different. That's one minor issue. My car should have slightly higher value as one of the highest level of trim, but I can only insure it as a low-mid range trim. Despite the VIN being associated with the CORRECT trim, I still, 6yrs after purchase, have not managed to persuade either Renault or Arnold Clark to update things with the DVSA. The car will soon be so old that it won't matter so much, but it's been a bit of a ball ache and the dealers could NOT give one shit if they inconvenience you. If you come to sell the car and it looks like it's clocked, you will be the one losing significant value. Don't buy it." I agree. Unless the main dealer is prepared to give you a written indemnity against future losses and (in writing) agrees to buy it back at the price they sell it to you for if there are future problems, then find another sad… shame, but not worth the aggro! …. Now, back to swinging lol | |||
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"I'd say it's deliberate. 5000 may not be much but it's still value to them, not you, and if it is clocked then what else may be dodgy ? Insist they get the MOT changed or avoid." You can only change an MOT by a pretty complex appeals process because it's a well regulated legal procedure and document. I doubt very much that an MOT provider has misread the mileage. It's clocked. I bet it's cheaper than average for the age and type of car too? | |||
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"I'd say it's deliberate. 5000 may not be much but it's still value to them, not you, and if it is clocked then what else may be dodgy ? Insist they get the MOT changed or avoid. You can only change an MOT by a pretty complex appeals process because it's a well regulated legal procedure and document. I doubt very much that an MOT provider has misread the mileage. It's clocked. I bet it's cheaper than average for the age and type of car too?" Thanks KC and I agree. | |||
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"I'd say it's deliberate. 5000 may not be much but it's still value to them, not you, and if it is clocked then what else may be dodgy ? Insist they get the MOT changed or avoid." Yeah, I agree. I’m going to insist they get the MOT and service changed. Strange though as they are the dealership that did the MOT and Service so it doesn’t make sense to me. | |||
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"I'd say it's deliberate. 5000 may not be much but it's still value to them, not you, and if it is clocked then what else may be dodgy ? Insist they get the MOT changed or avoid. You can only change an MOT by a pretty complex appeals process because it's a well regulated legal procedure and document. I doubt very much that an MOT provider has misread the mileage. It's clocked. I bet it's cheaper than average for the age and type of car too?" They did the MOT and service so it’s very odd. | |||
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"I'd say it's deliberate. 5000 may not be much but it's still value to them, not you, and if it is clocked then what else may be dodgy ? Insist they get the MOT changed or avoid. Yeah, I agree. I’m going to insist they get the MOT and service changed. Strange though as they are the dealership that did the MOT and Service so it doesn’t make sense to me." https://www.gov.uk/getting-an-mot/correcting-mot-certificate-mistakes#:~:text=You%20can%20get%20information%20corrected,vehicle%20details)%20if%20it's%20wrong. | |||
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"I'd say it's deliberate. 5000 may not be much but it's still value to them, not you, and if it is clocked then what else may be dodgy ? Insist they get the MOT changed or avoid. You can only change an MOT by a pretty complex appeals process because it's a well regulated legal procedure and document. I doubt very much that an MOT provider has misread the mileage. It's clocked. I bet it's cheaper than average for the age and type of car too? They did the MOT and service so it’s very odd." What brand of main dealership is this, eg. Ford, Renault etc? | |||
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"What mileage do all the other MOT's say? 20 September 2022 - 77k 4 January 2022 - 63.5k 4 January 2021 - 53.5k I’m not an expert on these matters and no doubt someone will correct me if I am wrong but……. If it had an mot on 4 January 22 then the soonest it can have another one is 4 December 22. Why has it had one in September. I’m sure my mot certificate say ‘the soonest this vehicle can be tested is 1 month before it’s expiry. " I bought a car back in March that had it's MoT anniversary in September but the dealer gave it a fresh service and MoT before I took delivery. Some dealers are like that | |||
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"I'd say it's deliberate. 5000 may not be much but it's still value to them, not you, and if it is clocked then what else may be dodgy ? Insist they get the MOT changed or avoid. Yeah, I agree. I’m going to insist they get the MOT and service changed. Strange though as they are the dealership that did the MOT and Service so it doesn’t make sense to me. https://www.gov.uk/getting-an-mot/correcting-mot-certificate-mistakes#:~:text=You%20can%20get%20information%20corrected,vehicle%20details)%20if%20it's%20wrong." Yeah I saw that. I’m going to send them that link and ask them to sort it. My guess is that they’ll just say no and sell it to someone else. If that’s the case then I can only deduce one if two things… 1. There was something dodgy and they can’t get it changed. 2. They can’t be bothered. This will say a lot about their customer service if they can’t be bothered though. | |||
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"The 'know your car' app can give you some more details as well I would pass this one by and ask for deposit back as the dealer is pulling a fast one" I'd be inclined to agree. If it's a genuine data entry mistake they should be able to get it corrected. My thoughts are that whilst they might be able to convince you with an explanation now, but a couple of years down the line, when you come to move it on, a prospective buyer might get suspicious when looking through past test certificates - especially if you only do low mileage. I'd give them the opportunity to either rectify it or refund your deposit | |||
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"The 'know your car' app can give you some more details as well I would pass this one by and ask for deposit back as the dealer is pulling a fast one I'd be inclined to agree. If it's a genuine data entry mistake they should be able to get it corrected. My thoughts are that whilst they might be able to convince you with an explanation now, but a couple of years down the line, when you come to move it on, a prospective buyer might get suspicious when looking through past test certificates - especially if you only do low mileage. I'd give them the opportunity to either rectify it or refund your deposit" Exactly. If I’m spending a lot of money (which I am) then I don’t want any hassle. To me, their suggestion of ignoring it is just to them an easy ride and possibly me a difficult one. | |||
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"it will stick but most likley a mistake. A family member had their car mot'd when it was almost 3 years old. Cam back home had a closer look at the miliage on the paperwork and instead of it reading approx 1060 miles it read 1006 miles. Though it was in their favor it still did not sit right with the FSH etc and though papers corected i think on dvla site it showed the mistake and then corrected the day after. It can put people off from buying a car" So the history got sorted for that family member or the mistake is visible online you mean? | |||
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