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"He's mentioned before he's bi polar and has had episodes in the past. Yeah I think he's in the middle of a break down but unfortunately plenty of people are quick to point and laugh. I think part of the problem with Kanye West is that he's been surrounded with people for years who would never tell him no." Listening to him just now he denies that he has any mental illness whatsoever and I actually had to stop listening as it was just so uncomfortable after a while. | |||
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"I completely agree! I loathe the way so much reporting around this ignores his obvious symptoms. Shame on the British press, as per." It's a difficult one though having thought about it. I find it difficult listening to him being interviewed as it feels like he is being used as entertainment whoever it also feels wrong to simply silence people because they are unwell. | |||
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"Just. Turn. Off. When his fame dries up he may actually seek help." Plenty of non famous people who are mentally ill refuse to get help or can't see they have a problem. Like my mother. | |||
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"Just. Turn. Off. When his fame dries up he may actually seek help." I don't agree he should have to lose his fame to be able to get help as plenty of famous people seek help and support for a variety of issues. It doesn't matter whether you are famous or not you have to be able to admit you have an issue in the 1st place. Problem is people that are extremely mentally unwell aren't awear there is a problem. | |||
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"He is a piece of shit. He is mentally unwell. Both things can coexist, both can be true at once. In his case, this is what it appears to be." Why is he a piece of shit? | |||
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"He is a piece of shit. He is mentally unwell. Both things can coexist, both can be true at once. In his case, this is what it appears to be. Why is he a piece of shit? " Repeated anti-semitic and anti-black comments. None of which is new. His behavior dates as far back as 2011. Except back then, he still made enough chart topping music to distract folks, and was a powerhouse producer to the point where artists were willing to look the other way. | |||
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"When someone is unwell, and they admit they aren't on their meds, the media should not be giving them a platform, so yes I agree with you. Piers Morgan is just using this to drum up some controversy (as he always does), and knows Kanye is always good for some controversial quotes, especially when his mental health is on the downturn." Totally get that but the problem is he is teling everyone he doesn't need any medication because he isn't ill so that's where the problem comes in. | |||
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"He is a piece of shit. He is mentally unwell. Both things can coexist, both can be true at once. In his case, this is what it appears to be. Why is he a piece of shit? Repeated anti-semitic and anti-black comments. None of which is new. His behavior dates as far back as 2011. Except back then, he still made enough chart topping music to distract folks, and was a powerhouse producer to the point where artists were willing to look the other way." What he has been saying is abhorrent however it doesn't make him a piece of shit! This has been going back 10 years but so probably has his mental health issues and I'm not saying that's an excuse however it's potentially a reason. | |||
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"He is mentally stable just says thing to stir up people and create polarity. " If you had listened to the interview I just did there is no way you could describe this man as mentally stable. | |||
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"When someone is unwell, and they admit they aren't on their meds, the media should not be giving them a platform, so yes I agree with you. Piers Morgan is just using this to drum up some controversy (as he always does), and knows Kanye is always good for some controversial quotes, especially when his mental health is on the downturn. Totally get that but the problem is he is teling everyone he doesn't need any medication because he isn't ill so that's where the problem comes in. " Ok, but do people really believe that? His behaviour seems to have gotten crazier lately... surely he's just self medicating and making excuses? I'm no expert, just trying to understand his recent craziness | |||
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"He is a piece of shit. He is mentally unwell. Both things can coexist, both can be true at once. In his case, this is what it appears to be. Why is he a piece of shit? Repeated anti-semitic and anti-black comments. None of which is new. His behavior dates as far back as 2011. Except back then, he still made enough chart topping music to distract folks, and was a powerhouse producer to the point where artists were willing to look the other way. What he has been saying is abhorrent however it doesn't make him a piece of shit! This has been going back 10 years but so probably has his mental health issues and I'm not saying that's an excuse however it's potentially a reason. " Not sure how you can rationalize someone saying anti-semitic things with them not being a piece of shit, but more power to you i guess. | |||
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"He is a piece of shit. He is mentally unwell. Both things can coexist, both can be true at once. In his case, this is what it appears to be. Why is he a piece of shit? Repeated anti-semitic and anti-black comments. None of which is new. His behavior dates as far back as 2011. Except back then, he still made enough chart topping music to distract folks, and was a powerhouse producer to the point where artists were willing to look the other way. What he has been saying is abhorrent however it doesn't make him a piece of shit! This has been going back 10 years but so probably has his mental health issues and I'm not saying that's an excuse however it's potentially a reason. Not sure how you can rationalize someone saying anti-semitic things with them not being a piece of shit, but more power to you i guess." Because I would not describe another human being as a piece of shit simply because I don't like what they say. | |||
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"He is a piece of shit. He is mentally unwell. Both things can coexist, both can be true at once. In his case, this is what it appears to be. Why is he a piece of shit? Repeated anti-semitic and anti-black comments. None of which is new. His behavior dates as far back as 2011. Except back then, he still made enough chart topping music to distract folks, and was a powerhouse producer to the point where artists were willing to look the other way." He was always controversial in the Jay-Z camp way before 2011, I'm talking 2000-ish before he had an album. As he was not the big dog then. George Bush Kanye was in 2005 and he was already very controversial then in the hip-hop scene. However, social media back then is very different from now. Kanye being Kanye nothin new. | |||
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"When someone is unwell, and they admit they aren't on their meds, the media should not be giving them a platform, so yes I agree with you. Piers Morgan is just using this to drum up some controversy (as he always does), and knows Kanye is always good for some controversial quotes, especially when his mental health is on the downturn. Totally get that but the problem is he is teling everyone he doesn't need any medication because he isn't ill so that's where the problem comes in. Ok, but do people really believe that? His behaviour seems to have gotten crazier lately... surely he's just self medicating and making excuses? I'm no expert, just trying to understand his recent craziness" No I don't think very many people believe that but my point is it kind of doesn't matter what we believe it very much does feel like laughing at the people in the asylum which is what I said the beginning. I just think it's a slippery slide to say people shouldn't go on television or social media accounts because they are mentally unwell as that's just a way of shutting people up. That made perfect sense in my head but I'm not sure it's come across well on here. | |||
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"He's mentioned before he's bi polar and has had episodes in the past. Yeah I think he's in the middle of a break down but unfortunately plenty of people are quick to point and laugh. I think part of the problem with Kanye West is that he's been surrounded with people for years who would never tell him no. Listening to him just now he denies that he has any mental illness whatsoever and I actually had to stop listening as it was just so uncomfortable after a while. " It's a car crash. The man is talented but he need help. Makes me very sad and frustrated because I and others are working hard to remain stable. | |||
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" Not sure how you can rationalize someone saying anti-semitic things with them not being a piece of shit, but more power to you i guess. Because I would not describe another human being as a piece of shit simply because I don't like what they say. " You know what anti semitism is right? You know the history of that form of racism correct? Like there was a whole World War literally fought against one of the most infamous people to have walked the earth who held such views. Do you think the people who rallied against that guy simply “didn’t like what he said” too? General concensus is that racists are pieces of shit. Same applies here. | |||
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" Not sure how you can rationalize someone saying anti-semitic things with them not being a piece of shit, but more power to you i guess. Because I would not describe another human being as a piece of shit simply because I don't like what they say. You know what anti semitism is right? You know the history of that form of racism correct? Like there was a whole World War literally fought against one of the most infamous people to have walked the earth who held such views. Do you think the people who rallied against that guy simply “didn’t like what he said” too? General concensus is that racists are pieces of shit. Same applies here." Of course I know what these things are I'm simply saying describing someone who is clearly very unwell as a piece of shit doesn't help anybody. | |||
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"He's mentioned before he's bi polar and has had episodes in the past. Yeah I think he's in the middle of a break down but unfortunately plenty of people are quick to point and laugh. I think part of the problem with Kanye West is that he's been surrounded with people for years who would never tell him no. Listening to him just now he denies that he has any mental illness whatsoever and I actually had to stop listening as it was just so uncomfortable after a while. It's a car crash. The man is talented but he need help. Makes me very sad and frustrated because I and others are working hard to remain stable." I totally understand where you are coming from but as you know sometimes it is not clear to the person that they are unwell. | |||
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" Not sure how you can rationalize someone saying anti-semitic things with them not being a piece of shit, but more power to you i guess. Because I would not describe another human being as a piece of shit simply because I don't like what they say. You know what anti semitism is right? You know the history of that form of racism correct? Like there was a whole World War literally fought against one of the most infamous people to have walked the earth who held such views. Do you think the people who rallied against that guy simply “didn’t like what he said” too? General concensus is that racists are pieces of shit. Same applies here." Agreed, mental health issues or not he needs to be held accountable for what he said, there is always a consequence | |||
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" Not sure how you can rationalize someone saying anti-semitic things with them not being a piece of shit, but more power to you i guess. Because I would not describe another human being as a piece of shit simply because I don't like what they say. You know what anti semitism is right? You know the history of that form of racism correct? Like there was a whole World War literally fought against one of the most infamous people to have walked the earth who held such views. Do you think the people who rallied against that guy simply “didn’t like what he said” too? General concensus is that racists are pieces of shit. Same applies here. Agreed, mental health issues or not he needs to be held accountable for what he said, there is always a consequence " You can hold someone accountable without calling them names. | |||
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" Not sure how you can rationalize someone saying anti-semitic things with them not being a piece of shit, but more power to you i guess. Because I would not describe another human being as a piece of shit simply because I don't like what they say. You know what anti semitism is right? You know the history of that form of racism correct? Like there was a whole World War literally fought against one of the most infamous people to have walked the earth who held such views. Do you think the people who rallied against that guy simply “didn’t like what he said” too? General concensus is that racists are pieces of shit. Same applies here. Agreed, mental health issues or not he needs to be held accountable for what he said, there is always a consequence You can hold someone accountable without calling them names. " Who called him names? | |||
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" Not sure how you can rationalize someone saying anti-semitic things with them not being a piece of shit, but more power to you i guess. Because I would not describe another human being as a piece of shit simply because I don't like what they say. You know what anti semitism is right? You know the history of that form of racism correct? Like there was a whole World War literally fought against one of the most infamous people to have walked the earth who held such views. Do you think the people who rallied against that guy simply “didn’t like what he said” too? General concensus is that racists are pieces of shit. Same applies here. Agreed, mental health issues or not he needs to be held accountable for what he said, there is always a consequence You can hold someone accountable without calling them names. Who called him names? " The man you were replying to called him a piece of shit. | |||
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" Not sure how you can rationalize someone saying anti-semitic things with them not being a piece of shit, but more power to you i guess. Because I would not describe another human being as a piece of shit simply because I don't like what they say. You know what anti semitism is right? You know the history of that form of racism correct? Like there was a whole World War literally fought against one of the most infamous people to have walked the earth who held such views. Do you think the people who rallied against that guy simply “didn’t like what he said” too? General concensus is that racists are pieces of shit. Same applies here. Agreed, mental health issues or not he needs to be held accountable for what he said, there is always a consequence You can hold someone accountable without calling them names. Who called him names? The man you were replying to called him a piece of shit. " Right and you addressed it with him so it has nothing whatsoever to do with my comment | |||
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" Not sure how you can rationalize someone saying anti-semitic things with them not being a piece of shit, but more power to you i guess. Because I would not describe another human being as a piece of shit simply because I don't like what they say. You know what anti semitism is right? You know the history of that form of racism correct? Like there was a whole World War literally fought against one of the most infamous people to have walked the earth who held such views. Do you think the people who rallied against that guy simply “didn’t like what he said” too? General concensus is that racists are pieces of shit. Same applies here. Agreed, mental health issues or not he needs to be held accountable for what he said, there is always a consequence You can hold someone accountable without calling them names. Who called him names? The man you were replying to called him a piece of shit. Right and you addressed it with him so it has nothing whatsoever to do with my comment" Pardon? You said you agreed with him and I said you shouldn't call people names. Has everything to do with what you had written. | |||
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" Not sure how you can rationalize someone saying anti-semitic things with them not being a piece of shit, but more power to you i guess. Because I would not describe another human being as a piece of shit simply because I don't like what they say. You know what anti semitism is right? You know the history of that form of racism correct? Like there was a whole World War literally fought against one of the most infamous people to have walked the earth who held such views. Do you think the people who rallied against that guy simply “didn’t like what he said” too? General concensus is that racists are pieces of shit. Same applies here. Agreed, mental health issues or not he needs to be held accountable for what he said, there is always a consequence You can hold someone accountable without calling them names. Who called him names? The man you were replying to called him a piece of shit. Right and you addressed it with him so it has nothing whatsoever to do with my comment Pardon? You said you agreed with him and I said you shouldn't call people names. Has everything to do with what you had written. " I was agreeing with his antisemitism comment.....Excuse me for not isolating it. | |||
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" Not sure how you can rationalize someone saying anti-semitic things with them not being a piece of shit, but more power to you i guess. Because I would not describe another human being as a piece of shit simply because I don't like what they say. You know what anti semitism is right? You know the history of that form of racism correct? Like there was a whole World War literally fought against one of the most infamous people to have walked the earth who held such views. Do you think the people who rallied against that guy simply “didn’t like what he said” too? General concensus is that racists are pieces of shit. Same applies here. Agreed, mental health issues or not he needs to be held accountable for what he said, there is always a consequence You can hold someone accountable without calling them names. Who called him names? The man you were replying to called him a piece of shit. Right and you addressed it with him so it has nothing whatsoever to do with my comment Pardon? You said you agreed with him and I said you shouldn't call people names. Has everything to do with what you had written. I was agreeing with his antisemitism comment.....Excuse me for not isolating it. " | |||
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"He's mentioned before he's bi polar and has had episodes in the past. Yeah I think he's in the middle of a break down but unfortunately plenty of people are quick to point and laugh. I think part of the problem with Kanye West is that he's been surrounded with people for years who would never tell him no." | |||
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"So I've just been listening to the interview he did with Piers Morgan. It very much seems to me he is quite seriously unwell mentally, What struck me is he will probably face more ridicule after this interview and I just wondered as it feels a bit like the bad old days when people would go to asylums to laugh at the crazy people. " One of the benefits of modern technology. Don’t have to go out on a cold wet ,and windy winters day to trek down the asylum to laugh at the crazy people. You can just log on to here instead | |||
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"His interview with Lex Fridman was an eye opener. He needs serious help and to not be famous , both of which won't happen. " I would normally say someone with mental health issues needs help… but when you see him bragging about adidas not being able to do anything because he is so big, he knows exactly what he is doing! Sometimes you need to hit rock bottom before you can accept help… he is not there yet so let him face all the ramifications…. Then maybe he will see where he is | |||
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"Throwback to when Kanye said slxvery was a choice. " So many people have him an off ramp to clarify what he meant then… till the bloke at TMZ absolutely blew his argument to bits in his face…. This is the same… so many people have given him the off ramp to back off or clarify… the problem is no one in his inner circle has the front to basically check him! | |||
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"His interview with Lex Fridman was an eye opener. He needs serious help and to not be famous , both of which won't happen. I would normally say someone with mental health issues needs help… but when you see him bragging about adidas not being able to do anything because he is so big, he knows exactly what he is doing! Sometimes you need to hit rock bottom before you can accept help… he is not there yet so let him face all the ramifications…. Then maybe he will see where he is " But in the meantime he's stirring up all the racist fuckwits. He needs to be silenced. | |||
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"His interview with Lex Fridman was an eye opener. He needs serious help and to not be famous , both of which won't happen. I would normally say someone with mental health issues needs help… but when you see him bragging about adidas not being able to do anything because he is so big, he knows exactly what he is doing! Sometimes you need to hit rock bottom before you can accept help… he is not there yet so let him face all the ramifications…. Then maybe he will see where he is But in the meantime he's stirring up all the racist fuckwits. He needs to be silenced." Silencing him feeds his argument about the Jewish influence of the media. Far better to let him spout his shite and let others destroy his arguments logically. He might even learn how wrong he is. | |||
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"His interview with Lex Fridman was an eye opener. He needs serious help and to not be famous , both of which won't happen. I would normally say someone with mental health issues needs help… but when you see him bragging about adidas not being able to do anything because he is so big, he knows exactly what he is doing! Sometimes you need to hit rock bottom before you can accept help… he is not there yet so let him face all the ramifications…. Then maybe he will see where he is But in the meantime he's stirring up all the racist fuckwits. He needs to be silenced. Silencing him feeds his argument about the Jewish influence of the media. Far better to let him spout his shite and let others destroy his arguments logically. He might even learn how wrong he is." What i don't understand is why such comments are never published so we can decide for ourselves if they are in any way what they're claimed to be. Same with the furore in the Labour party a while ago. Why leave it to global corporations to decide for us, who's prime concern is not upsetting a particular demographic for fear of the possible loss of revenue that might entail. | |||
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"He's said some horrendous shite lately but as someone who's ostensibly in the grips of a serious psychotic episode, the media should not be giving him such a visible platform right now. It's exploitation. They're encouraging hundreds of thousands of people to laugh at a seriously ill man just for revenue. Surely we should be a little wiser about this in 2022. Plus ca change." This is my thinking too. | |||
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"His interview with Lex Fridman was an eye opener. He needs serious help and to not be famous , both of which won't happen. I would normally say someone with mental health issues needs help… but when you see him bragging about adidas not being able to do anything because he is so big, he knows exactly what he is doing! Sometimes you need to hit rock bottom before you can accept help… he is not there yet so let him face all the ramifications…. Then maybe he will see where he is But in the meantime he's stirring up all the racist fuckwits. He needs to be silenced. Silencing him feeds his argument about the Jewish influence of the media. Far better to let him spout his shite and let others destroy his arguments logically. He might even learn how wrong he is. What i don't understand is why such comments are never published so we can decide for ourselves if they are in any way what they're claimed to be. Same with the furore in the Labour party a while ago. Why leave it to global corporations to decide for us, who's prime concern is not upsetting a particular demographic for fear of the possible loss of revenue that might entail. " 'particular demographic' | |||
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"Kanye getting kicked out of the Skechers building by security after turning up unannounced and uninvited trying to find a new home for his Yeezys shoes might be my new favourite detail of the story!!! " Just read that. Didnt know Sketchers was a Jewish owned company...facepalm doh lol | |||
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"Kanye getting kicked out of the Skechers building by security after turning up unannounced and uninvited trying to find a new home for his Yeezys shoes might be my new favourite detail of the story!!! Just read that. Didnt know Sketchers was a Jewish owned company...facepalm doh lol" In the Piers Morgan interview he actually described himself as a Jewish man. | |||
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"His interview with Lex Fridman was an eye opener. He needs serious help and to not be famous , both of which won't happen. I would normally say someone with mental health issues needs help… but when you see him bragging about adidas not being able to do anything because he is so big, he knows exactly what he is doing! Sometimes you need to hit rock bottom before you can accept help… he is not there yet so let him face all the ramifications…. Then maybe he will see where he is But in the meantime he's stirring up all the racist fuckwits. He needs to be silenced. Silencing him feeds his argument about the Jewish influence of the media. Far better to let him spout his shite and let others destroy his arguments logically. He might even learn how wrong he is." It is not better to allow someone with that kind of platform and reach to be antisemitic. That is an absolutely insane thing to suggest. Platforming racists in the hope that it highlights how stupid they are is not protecting communities at all. It is in a way just encouraging violence against them. | |||
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"His interview with Lex Fridman was an eye opener. He needs serious help and to not be famous , both of which won't happen. I would normally say someone with mental health issues needs help… but when you see him bragging about adidas not being able to do anything because he is so big, he knows exactly what he is doing! Sometimes you need to hit rock bottom before you can accept help… he is not there yet so let him face all the ramifications…. Then maybe he will see where he is But in the meantime he's stirring up all the racist fuckwits. He needs to be silenced. Silencing him feeds his argument about the Jewish influence of the media. Far better to let him spout his shite and let others destroy his arguments logically. He might even learn how wrong he is. It is not better to allow someone with that kind of platform and reach to be antisemitic. That is an absolutely insane thing to suggest. Platforming racists in the hope that it highlights how stupid they are is not protecting communities at all. It is in a way just encouraging violence against them. " It just normalises these type of views IMO. The media shouldn't be giving him airtime right now - both for the protection of whichever marginalised group he's going off against but also for the protection of the seriously mentally ill man making the comments. It's maddening how the press seem to have so little awareness of their role in destroying people. But actually they're not stupid, they're completely aware of what they're doing. | |||
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"His interview with Lex Fridman was an eye opener. He needs serious help and to not be famous , both of which won't happen. I would normally say someone with mental health issues needs help… but when you see him bragging about adidas not being able to do anything because he is so big, he knows exactly what he is doing! Sometimes you need to hit rock bottom before you can accept help… he is not there yet so let him face all the ramifications…. Then maybe he will see where he is But in the meantime he's stirring up all the racist fuckwits. He needs to be silenced. Silencing him feeds his argument about the Jewish influence of the media. Far better to let him spout his shite and let others destroy his arguments logically. He might even learn how wrong he is. It is not better to allow someone with that kind of platform and reach to be antisemitic. That is an absolutely insane thing to suggest. Platforming racists in the hope that it highlights how stupid they are is not protecting communities at all. It is in a way just encouraging violence against them. It just normalises these type of views IMO. The media shouldn't be giving him airtime right now - both for the protection of whichever marginalised group he's going off against but also for the protection of the seriously mentally ill man making the comments. It's maddening how the press seem to have so little awareness of their role in destroying people. But actually they're not stupid, they're completely aware of what they're doing." It’s all about clicks. That’s why Kanye has been allowed to get away with his racism for so long. It gets attention. | |||
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"Throwback to when Kanye said slxvery was a choice. So many people have him an off ramp to clarify what he meant then… till the bloke at TMZ absolutely blew his argument to bits in his face…. This is the same… so many people have given him the off ramp to back off or clarify… the problem is no one in his inner circle has the front to basically check him! " Nobody cared though. Because apparently it was just the left getting upset that Kanye was conservative like Candace Owens or whatever. | |||
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"When are people going to stop using mental health as an excuse for someone being a piece of shit? And yes, I've read the thread. I don't particularly like Kanye, and after learning about his anti-semitic statements the first thought in my mind was not "Poor Kanye, he needs help." It's harmful enough any Tom, Dick and Harry saying shite like that... nevermind a grown man with influence over millions of people. I doubt Hitler was mentally stable. I'd say he had severe mental health issues to be able to do what he did. Sure, it's nowhere near on the same level as words, but where is the sympathy for that piece of shit? People can be mentally unstable and huge pieces of shit too." | |||
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"His interview with Lex Fridman was an eye opener. He needs serious help and to not be famous , both of which won't happen. I would normally say someone with mental health issues needs help… but when you see him bragging about adidas not being able to do anything because he is so big, he knows exactly what he is doing! Sometimes you need to hit rock bottom before you can accept help… he is not there yet so let him face all the ramifications…. Then maybe he will see where he is But in the meantime he's stirring up all the racist fuckwits. He needs to be silenced. Silencing him feeds his argument about the Jewish influence of the media. Far better to let him spout his shite and let others destroy his arguments logically. He might even learn how wrong he is. It is not better to allow someone with that kind of platform and reach to be antisemitic. That is an absolutely insane thing to suggest. Platforming racists in the hope that it highlights how stupid they are is not protecting communities at all. It is in a way just encouraging violence against them. " Has the MSM actually said they agree with him? No. They just report the fact that he is issuing statements of this type. The MSM have said he is antisemitic and not firing on all cylinders mentally. How many of his fans actually mimic his views? They know him for what he is, a seriously ill informed racist with paranoid tendencies. He is being laughed at by the world, and he is doubling down on his beliefs. Even the more mainstream right wingers see him for what he is and don't want to touch him with a bargepole. | |||
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"His interview with Lex Fridman was an eye opener. He needs serious help and to not be famous , both of which won't happen. I would normally say someone with mental health issues needs help… but when you see him bragging about adidas not being able to do anything because he is so big, he knows exactly what he is doing! Sometimes you need to hit rock bottom before you can accept help… he is not there yet so let him face all the ramifications…. Then maybe he will see where he is But in the meantime he's stirring up all the racist fuckwits. He needs to be silenced. Silencing him feeds his argument about the Jewish influence of the media. Far better to let him spout his shite and let others destroy his arguments logically. He might even learn how wrong he is. It is not better to allow someone with that kind of platform and reach to be antisemitic. That is an absolutely insane thing to suggest. Platforming racists in the hope that it highlights how stupid they are is not protecting communities at all. It is in a way just encouraging violence against them. Has the MSM actually said they agree with him? No. They just report the fact that he is issuing statements of this type. The MSM have said he is antisemitic and not firing on all cylinders mentally. How many of his fans actually mimic his views? They know him for what he is, a seriously ill informed racist with paranoid tendencies. He is being laughed at by the world, and he is doubling down on his beliefs. Even the more mainstream right wingers see him for what he is and don't want to touch him with a bargepole." So it’s fine for Jewish people to have to see various media platforming an antisemite because people are laughing at him? Nah that ain’t it | |||
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"His interview with Lex Fridman was an eye opener. He needs serious help and to not be famous , both of which won't happen. I would normally say someone with mental health issues needs help… but when you see him bragging about adidas not being able to do anything because he is so big, he knows exactly what he is doing! Sometimes you need to hit rock bottom before you can accept help… he is not there yet so let him face all the ramifications…. Then maybe he will see where he is But in the meantime he's stirring up all the racist fuckwits. He needs to be silenced. Silencing him feeds his argument about the Jewish influence of the media. Far better to let him spout his shite and let others destroy his arguments logically. He might even learn how wrong he is. What i don't understand is why such comments are never published so we can decide for ourselves if they are in any way what they're claimed to be. Same with the furore in the Labour party a while ago. Why leave it to global corporations to decide for us, who's prime concern is not upsetting a particular demographic for fear of the possible loss of revenue that might entail. 'particular demographic' " What word would you use to describe them? | |||
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"When are people going to stop using mental health as an excuse for someone being a piece of shit? And yes, I've read the thread. I don't particularly like Kanye, and after learning about his anti-semitic statements the first thought in my mind was not "Poor Kanye, he needs help." It's harmful enough any Tom, Dick and Harry saying shite like that... nevermind a grown man with influence over millions of people. I doubt Hitler was mentally stable. I'd say he had severe mental health issues to be able to do what he did. Sure, it's nowhere near on the same level as words, but where is the sympathy for that piece of shit? People can be mentally unstable and huge pieces of shit too." Not sure whether you were referencing my comments as part of your general statement, but I do agree with much of what you said. I don't particularly feel sympathy for Kanye and I don't think his illness excuses his comments. I'm just disappointed that the media continue to exploit someone who is in the middle of a mental health crisis, massive shithead or not. Someone so ill shouldn't be used as clickbait, whether we judge them to be a good person or not. What's to stop them doing it to someone blameless next time? | |||
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"His interview with Lex Fridman was an eye opener. He needs serious help and to not be famous , both of which won't happen. I would normally say someone with mental health issues needs help… but when you see him bragging about adidas not being able to do anything because he is so big, he knows exactly what he is doing! Sometimes you need to hit rock bottom before you can accept help… he is not there yet so let him face all the ramifications…. Then maybe he will see where he is But in the meantime he's stirring up all the racist fuckwits. He needs to be silenced. Silencing him feeds his argument about the Jewish influence of the media. Far better to let him spout his shite and let others destroy his arguments logically. He might even learn how wrong he is. What i don't understand is why such comments are never published so we can decide for ourselves if they are in any way what they're claimed to be. Same with the furore in the Labour party a while ago. Why leave it to global corporations to decide for us, who's prime concern is not upsetting a particular demographic for fear of the possible loss of revenue that might entail. 'particular demographic' What word would you use to describe them?" Be an antisemite with your chest. | |||
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"When are people going to stop using mental health as an excuse for someone being a piece of shit? And yes, I've read the thread. " This, combined with a splash of "Would this even be news if this person was anyone else given we know this behaviour exists all over the internet every second of every day" If he'd DONE something newsworthy, report that. If he's just SAID something dumb, don't give that air just because he's loaded. | |||
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"His interview with Lex Fridman was an eye opener. He needs serious help and to not be famous , both of which won't happen. I would normally say someone with mental health issues needs help… but when you see him bragging about adidas not being able to do anything because he is so big, he knows exactly what he is doing! Sometimes you need to hit rock bottom before you can accept help… he is not there yet so let him face all the ramifications…. Then maybe he will see where he is But in the meantime he's stirring up all the racist fuckwits. He needs to be silenced. Silencing him feeds his argument about the Jewish influence of the media. Far better to let him spout his shite and let others destroy his arguments logically. He might even learn how wrong he is. What i don't understand is why such comments are never published so we can decide for ourselves if they are in any way what they're claimed to be. Same with the furore in the Labour party a while ago. Why leave it to global corporations to decide for us, who's prime concern is not upsetting a particular demographic for fear of the possible loss of revenue that might entail. 'particular demographic' What word would you use to describe them? Be an antisemite with your chest. " Please explain that, i don't understand. | |||
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"So I've just been listening to the interview he did with Piers Morgan. It very much seems to me he is quite seriously unwell mentally, What struck me is he will probably face more ridicule after this interview and I just wondered as it feels a bit like the bad old days when people would go to asylums to laugh at the crazy people. " He behaves and says the same kind of things as Trump. | |||
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"He's mentioned before he's bi polar and has had episodes in the past. Yeah I think he's in the middle of a break down but unfortunately plenty of people are quick to point and laugh. I think part of the problem with Kanye West is that he's been surrounded with people for years who would never tell him no." Exactly | |||
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"So……… what do we do with Kanye this time? " Lawd. What has he done now? | |||
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"His interview with Lex Fridman was an eye opener. He needs serious help and to not be famous , both of which won't happen. I would normally say someone with mental health issues needs help… but when you see him bragging about adidas not being able to do anything because he is so big, he knows exactly what he is doing! Sometimes you need to hit rock bottom before you can accept help… he is not there yet so let him face all the ramifications…. Then maybe he will see where he is But in the meantime he's stirring up all the racist fuckwits. He needs to be silenced. Silencing him feeds his argument about the Jewish influence of the media. Far better to let him spout his shite and let others destroy his arguments logically. He might even learn how wrong he is. It is not better to allow someone with that kind of platform and reach to be antisemitic. That is an absolutely insane thing to suggest. Platforming racists in the hope that it highlights how stupid they are is not protecting communities at all. It is in a way just encouraging violence against them. It just normalises these type of views IMO. The media shouldn't be giving him airtime right now - both for the protection of whichever marginalised group he's going off against but also for the protection of the seriously mentally ill man making the comments. It's maddening how the press seem to have so little awareness of their role in destroying people. But actually they're not stupid, they're completely aware of what they're doing." | |||
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"So……… what do we do with Kanye this time? " Even Elon thinks he's gone too far....... | |||
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"So……… what do we do with Kanye this time? Lawd. What has he done now? " He said he likes Hitler and people should stop dissing Nazis. It's only 1% further than the stuff Trump comes out with, the have the same circle of friends etc. And people love him and want him back as their president. So it's all a bit of a non story. | |||
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"So……… what do we do with Kanye this time? Even Elon thinks he's gone too far....... " Elon only banned him after he posted his fat pics!… up till then everything was cool.. but how dare you mock the leader! | |||
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"So……… what do we do with Kanye this time? Even Elon thinks he's gone too far....... Elon only banned him after he posted his fat pics!… up till then everything was cool.. but how dare you mock the leader! " Really?! Crap I didn't know that. I thought he'd finally got a clue. I was wrong, sorry. Shit. | |||
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"So……… what do we do with Kanye this time? Even Elon thinks he's gone too far....... Elon only banned him after he posted his fat pics!… up till then everything was cool.. but how dare you mock the leader! " Not so. He was banned for posting a swastika image. The exchange is on Musk's timeline. | |||
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"So……… what do we do with Kanye this time? Even Elon thinks he's gone too far....... Elon only banned him after he posted his fat pics!… up till then everything was cool.. but how dare you mock the leader! Not so. He was banned for posting a swastika image. The exchange is on Musk's timeline." He glorified Hitler and said he did some good things. Kanye West can fuck off and do one, as far as I'm concerned. | |||
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"So……… what do we do with Kanye this time? Even Elon thinks he's gone too far....... Elon only banned him after he posted his fat pics!… up till then everything was cool.. but how dare you mock the leader! Not so. He was banned for posting a swastika image. The exchange is on Musk's timeline. He glorified Hitler and said he did some good things. Kanye West can fuck off and do one, as far as I'm concerned. " | |||
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