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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Half wit protestors spray front of Harrods with orange paint. Are they really stupid enough to think this achieves anything. I would make them clean up their mess before charging them with vandalism

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"Half wit protestors spray front of Harrods with orange paint. Are they really stupid enough to think this achieves anything. I would make them clean up their mess before charging them with vandalism "

Well it got you talking about them.....so it's achieved at least one thing.

A

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I hope the ones who protest about the government do a better job than this

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"Half wit protestors spray front of Harrods with orange paint. Are they really stupid enough to think this achieves anything. I would make them clean up their mess before charging them with vandalism

Well it got you talking about them.....so it's achieved at least one thing.

A"
^^^ This

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Problem they have is pissing everyday folks off isnt likely to get people onside more likely to push people away from the things they want people to care about

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"I hope the ones who protest about the government do a better job than this "

You mean the thousands of 50yrs + armchair politicians on Facebook and others forums?

They are part of a huge radical online movement that’s going to revolutionise things in the uk and redistribute wealth, you might have heard of it its called…..Occupy - Your Sofa

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"Problem they have is pissing everyday folks off isnt likely to get people onside more likely to push people away from the things they want people to care about "
I know.

We have had a few discussions on the forums about this. I do empathise with people being inconvenienced and I do not agree with vandalism but then as a few (cannot recall who) mentioned that women would not enjoy equal rights today if it had not been for the likes of Emily Pankhurst etc.

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By *ickeyblueeyes7Man
over a year ago

newport


"Half wit protestors spray front of Harrods with orange paint. Are they really stupid enough to think this achieves anything. I would make them clean up their mess before charging them with vandalism "

They did use oil based paint

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I hope the ones who protest about the government do a better job than this

You mean the thousands of 50yrs + armchair politicians on Facebook and others forums?

They are part of a huge radical online movement that’s going to revolutionise things in the uk and redistribute wealth, you might have heard of it its called…..Occupy - Your Sofa "
vive la revolution

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Problem they have is pissing everyday folks off isnt likely to get people onside more likely to push people away from the things they want people to care about "

Perhaps - if the 'everyday folk' think their minor inconvenience outweighs the impending crises that are being highlighted, they will be pissed off.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"Half wit protestors spray front of Harrods with orange paint. Are they really stupid enough to think this achieves anything. I would make them clean up their mess before charging them with vandalism

They did use oil based paint "

Surely not

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"Problem they have is pissing everyday folks off isnt likely to get people onside more likely to push people away from the things they want people to care about

Perhaps - if the 'everyday folk' think their minor inconvenience outweighs the impending crises that are being highlighted, they will be pissed off. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Problem they have is pissing everyday folks off isnt likely to get people onside more likely to push people away from the things they want people to care about

Perhaps - if the 'everyday folk' think their minor inconvenience outweighs the impending crises that are being highlighted, they will be pissed off. "
not that minor if you were say on a final warning at work and couldnt get in because they glued up the floor

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Problem they have is pissing everyday folks off isnt likely to get people onside more likely to push people away from the things they want people to care about

Perhaps - if the 'everyday folk' think their minor inconvenience outweighs the impending crises that are being highlighted, they will be pissed off. not that minor if you were say on a final warning at work and couldnt get in because they glued up the floor"

Nor if they sent aliens to your bedroom and tied you to the mattress.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"I hope the ones who protest about the government do a better job than this

You mean the thousands of 50yrs + armchair politicians on Facebook and others forums?

They are part of a huge radical online movement that’s going to revolutionise things in the uk and redistribute wealth, you might have heard of it its called…..Occupy - Your Sofa vive la revolution "

The revolution may come if gas prices get so high, protesting in the street is a better way to keep warm. Until then the armchair activists will moan & whine but still re-elect Boris or someone just like him

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Problem they have is pissing everyday folks off isnt likely to get people onside more likely to push people away from the things they want people to care about

Perhaps - if the 'everyday folk' think their minor inconvenience outweighs the impending crises that are being highlighted, they will be pissed off. not that minor if you were say on a final warning at work and couldnt get in because they glued up the floor

Nor if they sent aliens to your bedroom and tied you to the mattress.

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thats a worry i always carry with me

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

If you think the impact is terrible, it's nothing compared to what billions of us face into the future. It's already gotten to hell for millions, as well so much of the natural world. It's not as if we are ignorant of the simple steps we can take.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I hope the ones who protest about the government do a better job than this

You mean the thousands of 50yrs + armchair politicians on Facebook and others forums?

They are part of a huge radical online movement that’s going to revolutionise things in the uk and redistribute wealth, you might have heard of it its called…..Occupy - Your Sofa vive la revolution

The revolution may come if gas prices get so high, protesting in the street is a better way to keep warm. Until then the armchair activists will moan & whine but still re-elect Boris or someone just like him"
if they do that il piss thru there letterbox and say im here to stop oil

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Half wit protestors spray front of Harrods with orange paint. Are they really stupid enough to think this achieves anything. I would make them clean up their mess before charging them with vandalism

Well it got you talking about them.....so it's achieved at least one thing.

A"

I don't agree just talking about them means they have achieved something. Protest groups like this need people to support them but all stunts like this do is turn people against them.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"Problem they have is pissing everyday folks off isnt likely to get people onside more likely to push people away from the things they want people to care about

Perhaps - if the 'everyday folk' think their minor inconvenience outweighs the impending crises that are being highlighted, they will be pissed off. not that minor if you were say on a final warning at work and couldnt get in because they glued up the floor

Nor if they sent aliens to your bedroom and tied you to the mattress.

"

Is there a waiting list for this, Granny?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Problem they have is pissing everyday folks off isnt likely to get people onside more likely to push people away from the things they want people to care about

Perhaps - if the 'everyday folk' think their minor inconvenience outweighs the impending crises that are being highlighted, they will be pissed off. "

If you care to explain what a minor inconvenience is that would be appreciated.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Half wit protestors spray front of Harrods with orange paint. Are they really stupid enough to think this achieves anything. I would make them clean up their mess before charging them with vandalism

Well it got you talking about them.....so it's achieved at least one thing.

A"

Really not sure I agree with the no publicity is bad publicity thing. Just because we're talking about them doesn't;t mean that their aims have been advances one iota and the argument can certainly be raised with validity that it's harmed it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do not understand how spraying Orange paint on a building, Is pouring excrement over a statue, Pouring milk on the floor of supermarkets and gluing your hand to a painting is going to stop millions suffering from climate change.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Problem they have is pissing everyday folks off isnt likely to get people onside more likely to push people away from the things they want people to care about

Perhaps - if the 'everyday folk' think their minor inconvenience outweighs the impending crises that are being highlighted, they will be pissed off. not that minor if you were say on a final warning at work and couldnt get in because they glued up the floor

Nor if they sent aliens to your bedroom and tied you to the mattress.

Is there a waiting list for this, Granny? "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I do not understand how spraying Orange paint on a building, Is pouring excrement over a statue, Pouring milk on the floor of supermarkets and gluing your hand to a painting is going to stop millions suffering from climate change."

Fair point.

Got any suggestions?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I do not understand how spraying Orange paint on a building, Is pouring excrement over a statue, Pouring milk on the floor of supermarkets and gluing your hand to a painting is going to stop millions suffering from climate change.

Fair point.

Got any suggestions?"

Yeah They can use their vote like the rest of us, They could also if they are insistent on protesting target people and places that will actually be able to do something about what they want.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Half wit protestors spray front of Harrods with orange paint. Are they really stupid enough to think this achieves anything. I would make them clean up their mess before charging them with vandalism

Well it got you talking about them.....so it's achieved at least one thing.

Talking about them doesn’t mean anything will change. All they achieve is getting peoples backs up.

A"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I do not understand how spraying Orange paint on a building, Is pouring excrement over a statue, Pouring milk on the floor of supermarkets and gluing your hand to a painting is going to stop millions suffering from climate change.

Fair point.

Got any suggestions?

Yeah They can use their vote like the rest of us, They could also if they are insistent on protesting target people and places that will actually be able to do something about what they want. "

Actually I'd like to do that

When is this vote on oil investments?

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By *ed VoluptaWoman
over a year ago

Wirral.


"Half wit protestors spray front of Harrods with orange paint. Are they really stupid enough to think this achieves anything. I would make them clean up their mess before charging them with vandalism

Well it got you talking about them.....so it's achieved at least one thing.

A

I don't agree just talking about them means they have achieved something. Protest groups like this need people to support them but all stunts like this do is turn people against them. "

Exactly this.

Yes, we're talking about them. But in a "what a bunch of useless morons" way, rather than a "oh aren't they brave to stand up for their values, I must join the movement" way!

Yes, I'm concerned about the planet & I do what I can to limit my negative impact upon it. But these pillocks just make me roll my eyes & NOT want to engage.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I do not understand how spraying Orange paint on a building, Is pouring excrement over a statue, Pouring milk on the floor of supermarkets and gluing your hand to a painting is going to stop millions suffering from climate change.

Fair point.

Got any suggestions?"

They could apply themselves to finding, creating, researching, developing, marketing, etc a viable and affordable solution to replace existing things. One that people in the real world can afford. Not spouting off rhetoric about this fantasy potential wonderland of the furture they reckon we're all ignoring. Actual work. Actual effort. Actual tangible results.

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By *ed VoluptaWoman
over a year ago

Wirral.


"Half wit protestors spray front of Harrods with orange paint. Are they really stupid enough to think this achieves anything. I would make them clean up their mess before charging them with vandalism

Well it got you talking about them.....so it's achieved at least one thing.

A

Really not sure I agree with the no publicity is bad publicity thing. Just because we're talking about them doesn't;t mean that their aims have been advances one iota and the argument can certainly be raised with validity that it's harmed it."

Thank you.

You said it way better than I did

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I do not understand how spraying Orange paint on a building, Is pouring excrement over a statue, Pouring milk on the floor of supermarkets and gluing your hand to a painting is going to stop millions suffering from climate change.

Fair point.

Got any suggestions?

They could apply themselves to finding, creating, researching, developing, marketing, etc a viable and affordable solution to replace existing things. One that people in the real world can afford. Not spouting off rhetoric about this fantasy potential wonderland of the furture they reckon we're all ignoring. Actual work. Actual effort. Actual tangible results."

You know some of those protesting are engaged in all those things right?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I do not understand how spraying Orange paint on a building, Is pouring excrement over a statue, Pouring milk on the floor of supermarkets and gluing your hand to a painting is going to stop millions suffering from climate change.

Fair point.

Got any suggestions?

They could apply themselves to finding, creating, researching, developing, marketing, etc a viable and affordable solution to replace existing things. One that people in the real world can afford. Not spouting off rhetoric about this fantasy potential wonderland of the furture they reckon we're all ignoring. Actual work. Actual effort. Actual tangible results.

You know some of those protesting are engaged in all those things right? "

Excellent... well then they ought to get their arses back to work and take their mates with them

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Problem they have is pissing everyday folks off isnt likely to get people onside more likely to push people away from the things they want people to care about

Perhaps - if the 'everyday folk' think their minor inconvenience outweighs the impending crises that are being highlighted, they will be pissed off. not that minor if you were say on a final warning at work and couldnt get in because they glued up the floor

Nor if they sent aliens to your bedroom and tied you to the mattress.

Is there a waiting list for this, Granny? "

Probably. Most of them are stuck to the roads of London somewhere

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So how many of the outraged have been actually inconvenienced by these protests?

By which I mean more of an inconvenience than having to read about it in the Mail rather too often for your liking.

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

Don't you need oil to make paint? Both for the paint and the plastic tub it came in?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So how many of the outraged have been actually inconvenienced by these protests?

By which I mean more of an inconvenience than having to read about it in the Mail rather too often for your liking."

I’m not outraged but had to attend an appointment in a London hospital 2 weeks ago. I had to drive as their was a rail strike. The hospital was outside of the congestion charge zone but was forced in to it to find a way around the block, had to pay the charge, and was over 3 hours late for my appointment which was then cancelled and I have to return.

So I would call that inconvenience. Now you can argue that against the survival of the rest of the world for many years or a scan to see if an illness has returned is probably minor, but, for me, that’s important.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So how many of the outraged have been actually inconvenienced by these protests?

By which I mean more of an inconvenience than having to read about it in the Mail rather too often for your liking."
Im not outraged im up in the north with the sane people not impacted at all but that dont stop me shaking my head at stupid people annoying making a pest of themselves by all means protest stuff but go bother the countrys bosses with it glue up number 10 or pinch and ransom some government documents something that might get people onside rather than piss off the working man

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By *ed VoluptaWoman
over a year ago

Wirral.


"So how many of the outraged have been actually inconvenienced by these protests?

By which I mean more of an inconvenience than having to read about it in the Mail rather too often for your liking."

That's rather a pompous and loaded comment, don't you think?

I admit I've not been personally "inconvenienced" by their shenanigans but I've been pretty outraged by their lack of respect for timeless artwork. (Thankfully, no permanent damage....yet.)

You don't need to be middle aged & right wing to want to smash their heads together & tell them to get a job

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So how many of the outraged have been actually inconvenienced by these protests?

By which I mean more of an inconvenience than having to read about it in the Mail rather too often for your liking.

That's rather a pompous and loaded comment, don't you think?

I admit I've not been personally "inconvenienced" by their shenanigans but I've been pretty outraged by their lack of respect for timeless artwork. (Thankfully, no permanent damage....yet.)

You don't need to be middle aged & right wing to want to smash their heads together & tell them to get a job "

It would be better if I used words like pillocks or useless morons?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So how many of the outraged have been actually inconvenienced by these pillocks or useless morons?"

There you go.... sorted that for you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thanks but it still doesn't quite capture the intent. Maybe this:


"So how many of the armchair outraged have not really been inconvenienced by these pillocks or useless morons?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So how many of the outraged have been actually inconvenienced by these pillocks or useless morons?

There you go.... sorted that for you "

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By *ed VoluptaWoman
over a year ago

Wirral.


"So how many of the outraged have been actually inconvenienced by these protests?

By which I mean more of an inconvenience than having to read about it in the Mail rather too often for your liking.

That's rather a pompous and loaded comment, don't you think?

I admit I've not been personally "inconvenienced" by their shenanigans but I've been pretty outraged by their lack of respect for timeless artwork. (Thankfully, no permanent damage....yet.)

You don't need to be middle aged & right wing to want to smash their heads together & tell them to get a job

It would be better if I used words like pillocks or useless morons?"

Use whichever words you like, in crayon or quill. I'll roll my eyes however you deign to support them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Thanks but it still doesn't quite capture the intent. Maybe this:

So how many of the armchair outraged have not really been inconvenienced by these pillocks or useless morons?

"

Ahhhh so is outrage only allowed within a radius of the crimes being committed?

Is there a permitted posture?

Should the whole country be stood on their doorstep banging their pots and pans at 7pm like in lockdown for the numpties to hear, and really understand, that they're not achieving their aim?

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Protest achieves change. Good luck to them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Should the whole country be stood on their doorstep banging their pots and pans at 7pm like in lockdown for the numpties to hear, and really understand, that they're not achieving their aim?"

I wouldn't say that's a terrible idea. I'm not confident it'll achieve much as it didn't seem to benefit nurses too well but.. go for it if you think it'll help

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Try not to piss off the neighbours though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Try not to piss off the neighbours though "

Good one

It's grand though, they'd be out too.

No one can stand the JSO ASBOs

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London

A protest protesting protesters

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No one can stand the JSO ASBOs"

Great line for a song

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A protest protesting protesters "

ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT IDEA..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A protest protesting protesters "

Exactly, because no one here seems to have a problem with the right to protest that I have seen, same as all of the right to strike threads, it's the futility of what they are doing and how it's so redundant and potentially setting their cause back by several years

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Protesting is a right is what makes England great.

We were going to Lakside the other day and cancelled becuse of the 2 chaps on the bridge.

Personally I'd let them protest for 5 mins and if they disagreed to move on, arrest them.

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By *ig1gaz1Man
over a year ago

bradford


"Half wit protestors spray front of Harrods with orange paint. Are they really stupid enough to think this achieves anything. I would make them clean up their mess before charging them with vandalism "

ohh im game with this.

In court i would ban them from owning a vehicle or driving one.

I would also ban any oil products in there house.

ive laos listened to them op and now i come for you.

your now going to be charged 10.00 a litre of fuel.

your waste oil now carries a higher charge this oil change will now cost you 20.00 per litre as it now needs to be recycled and reused again in a refinment process.

dont like it tough you also have to be responsible as well no point cribbing others

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By *ensualMan
over a year ago

Sutton

Did anyone catch Lucy Worsley's programme on the early suffragettes. How many people knew that some ran a bombing and arso campaign alongside damage to works of art to get votes for women?. Votes for women was seen as pointless at that time. This is an estimate of the damage caused by the "gentler sex".

"conclusion of the campaign in August 1914, the attacks had, in total, cost approximately £700,000 in damages (equivalent to £71,470,000 in 2021), although according to historian C. J. Bearman this figure does not include "the damage done to works of art or the more minor forms of militancy such as window-smashing and letter-burning". Bearman also notes that this figure does not include the extra costs inflicted by violent suffragette action, "such as extra police time, additional caretakers and night watchmen hired to protect property, and revenue lost when tourist attractions such as Haddon Hall and the State Apartments at Windsor Castle were closed for fear of suffragette attacks". With these additional considerations, Bearman asserts, the campaign cost the British economy between £1 and £2 million in 1913 to 1914 alone (approximately £130–£240 million today). There was an average of 21 bombing and arson incidents per month in 1913, and 15 per month in 1914, with there being an arson or bombing attack in every month between February 1913 and August 1914. Bearman calculates that there was a total of at least 337 arson and bombing attacks between 1913 and 1914, but states that the true number could be well over 500. By the end of the campaign, more than 1,300 people had been arrested and imprisoned for suffragette violence across the United Kingdom. "

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By *ild_oatsMan
over a year ago

the land of saints & sinners

Restricting the right to protest is a dangerous path as it leads to authoritarianism.

You may find you want to protest about something one day however innocuous it might be but could easily find yourself on the wrong side of the law by just saying something is wrong. If you tread this path.

There is enough legislation to deal with criminal damage. The whole point of a protest is to gain publicity for your cause. If it causes some disruption to your daily routine that can only be a good thing as it makes you think about the situation being highlighted.

The right of protest and dissent is a fundamental part of living in a democracy.

You may or may not agree with their views but to stifle it is not the solution to your opposition.

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

It’s the pointless vandalism they are doing that gets my back up for example who had to clean the sir Tom statue? Who’s had to clean all the stuff of the shop front at the car showroom and the slashing of tyres complete cunts

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By *hrops56Man
over a year ago

Telford

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By *hrops56Man
over a year ago

Telford


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By *hrops56Man
over a year ago

Telford


"It’s the pointless vandalism they are doing that gets my back up for example who had to clean the sir Tom statue? Who’s had to clean all the stuff of the shop front at the car showroom and the slashing of tyres complete cunts "

I'm having a bit of a mare with the quote and reply but I totally agree with you .

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Problem they have is pissing everyday folks off isnt likely to get people onside more likely to push people away from the things they want people to care about I know.

We have had a few discussions on the forums about this. I do empathise with people being inconvenienced and I do not agree with vandalism but then as a few (cannot recall who) mentioned that women would not enjoy equal rights today if it had not been for the likes of Emily Pankhurst etc."

Bloody pankhurst!

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By *izredCouple
over a year ago

mid cornwall


"Half wit protestors spray front of Harrods with orange paint. Are they really stupid enough to think this achieves anything. I would make them clean up their mess before charging them with vandalism

Well it got you talking about them.....so it's achieved at least one thing.

A

Really not sure I agree with the no publicity is bad publicity thing. Just because we're talking about them doesn't;t mean that their aims have been advances one iota and the argument can certainly be raised with validity that it's harmed it."

They don't do it to convert "anti protesters" they do it to inspire more people to research the issue on the hope that they will then to get involved too.

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

This is a consequence of having a generation that has grown up being fed climate change propaganda. I blame Attenborough and the BBC

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is a consequence of having a generation that has grown up being fed climate change propaganda. I blame Attenborough and the BBC"

What age do you think the protestors are?

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon


"This is a consequence of having a generation that has grown up being fed climate change propaganda. I blame Attenborough and the BBC

What age do you think the protestors are? "

Fairly young most of them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Half wit protestors spray front of Harrods with orange paint. Are they really stupid enough to think this achieves anything. I would make them clean up their mess before charging them with vandalism "

The painting incident is quite cleaver, why is that painting more valuable than for example the real flowers or the “Amazon” etc. so to make a point that way was quite cleaver.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I suppose most of us are younger than Attenborough to be fair.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So how many of the outraged have been actually inconvenienced by these protests?

By which I mean more of an inconvenience than having to read about it in the Mail rather too often for your liking."

We have several times. One included missing a funeral not being able to visit a terminal and the other one a hospital appointment that we had waited 7 months for. And for your information I have never read the daily mail in my life..

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

I must say these modern protesters have nothing on protesters of the past they seem a bit Lilly livered compared to that swampy bloke dug a hole and burried himself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Protest achieves change. Good luck to them. "

Correctly targeted protest achieves change.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Restricting the right to protest is a dangerous path as it leads to authoritarianism.

You may find you want to protest about something one day however innocuous it might be but could easily find yourself on the wrong side of the law by just saying something is wrong. If you tread this path.

There is enough legislation to deal with criminal damage. The whole point of a protest is to gain publicity for your cause. If it causes some disruption to your daily routine that can only be a good thing as it makes you think about the situation being highlighted.

The right of protest and dissent is a fundamental part of living in a democracy.

You may or may not agree with their views but to stifle it is not the solution to your opposition."

Protesting is not a problem criminal damage on the other hand is.

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By *lephantisMan
over a year ago

Oxford

Nothing is achieving change remotely fast enough. All power to the protestors for at least making a stand.

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington


"Restricting the right to protest is a dangerous path as it leads to authoritarianism.

You may find you want to protest about something one day however innocuous it might be but could easily find yourself on the wrong side of the law by just saying something is wrong. If you tread this path.

There is enough legislation to deal with criminal damage. The whole point of a protest is to gain publicity for your cause. If it causes some disruption to your daily routine that can only be a good thing as it makes you think about the situation being highlighted.

The right of protest and dissent is a fundamental part of living in a democracy.

You may or may not agree with their views but to stifle it is not the solution to your opposition.

Protesting is not a problem criminal damage on the other hand is. "
100% in regards to the criminal damage

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nothing is achieving change remotely fast enough. All power to the protestors for at least making a stand."

How does pouring paint on a building and excrement on a statue show their standing up for anything.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Half wit protestors spray front of Harrods with orange paint. Are they really stupid enough to think this achieves anything. I would make them clean up their mess before charging them with vandalism

Well it got you talking about them.....so it's achieved at least one thing.

Lol!

A"

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By *ilfCrumpet9Man
over a year ago

Wirral

It will probably take more chemicals and machines to clean up after them (causing more pollution). The exact reasons they are protesting to stop the pollution of our planet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And for your information I have never read the daily mail in my life.."

Just like the pictures?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Nothing is achieving change remotely fast enough. All power to the protestors for at least making a stand."

How is being a vandal making a stand, mindless morons

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nothing is achieving change remotely fast enough. All power to the protestors for at least making a stand.

How is being a vandal making a stand, mindless morons "

It isn't mindless though.

There's a section about their ideas of protest on their website. Direct action etc. etc.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"Nothing is achieving change remotely fast enough. All power to the protestors for at least making a stand.

How is being a vandal making a stand, mindless morons "

It's a protest, designed to draw attention to the lack of action taken by the government.

Seems to be working.

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By *lephantisMan
over a year ago

Oxford


"Nothing is achieving change remotely fast enough. All power to the protestors for at least making a stand.

How does pouring paint on a building and excrement on a statue show their standing up for anything. "

Because it is outrageous, gets people talking, and there is more opportunity for people to learn about the wrecking ball that is the UK government. Protestors have chained themselves to refineries, glued themselves to petrol stations - all the things that seem more 'relevant' - and the media ignored them.

Before making a speech at a raucous, busy wedding, one has to ring a glass with a spoon.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And for your information I have never read the daily mail in my life..

Just like the pictures?"

See it's these kind of comments that just turn people off to the cause completely because you're not prepared to have an adult discussion about it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nothing is achieving change remotely fast enough. All power to the protestors for at least making a stand.

How does pouring paint on a building and excrement on a statue show their standing up for anything.

Because it is outrageous, gets people talking, and there is more opportunity for people to learn about the wrecking ball that is the UK government. Protestors have chained themselves to refineries, glued themselves to petrol stations - all the things that seem more 'relevant' - and the media ignored them.

Before making a speech at a raucous, busy wedding, one has to ring a glass with a spoon."

It gets people talking about how stupid it is not about what they are trying to achieve.

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By *enrietteandSamCouple
over a year ago

Staffordshire

Good for them!

I hope they get all the oil they require

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What they fail or perhaps willfully refuse to understand is that people ARE aware.

They're dinging a bell that rang a long time ago.

And feck all progress has been made on a solution or exit from the situation, by the very people looking a pot to piss in in public.

These 'movements' are not simple crunchy zealots, they're pseudo-charity money machines harvesting goodwill and jumping on whatever cause they can worldwide.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"Nothing is achieving change remotely fast enough. All power to the protestors for at least making a stand.

How does pouring paint on a building and excrement on a statue show their standing up for anything.

Because it is outrageous, gets people talking, and there is more opportunity for people to learn about the wrecking ball that is the UK government. Protestors have chained themselves to refineries, glued themselves to petrol stations - all the things that seem more 'relevant' - and the media ignored them.

Before making a speech at a raucous, busy wedding, one has to ring a glass with a spoon.

It gets people talking about how stupid it is not about what they are trying to achieve. "

That's the effect it has on people who think paint on a wall is worse than the climate emergency.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Whatever their goal is to achieve, (talking about protestors in general) - especially the recent just stop oil group. Vandalising buildings and properties really isn’t going to get you any closer to whatever it is you are protesting about and certainly not getting the majority of the public on your side.

It’s absolutely disgusting spraying the sides of buildings.

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By *lephantisMan
over a year ago

Oxford


"Nothing is achieving change remotely fast enough. All power to the protestors for at least making a stand.

How does pouring paint on a building and excrement on a statue show their standing up for anything.

Because it is outrageous, gets people talking, and there is more opportunity for people to learn about the wrecking ball that is the UK government. Protestors have chained themselves to refineries, glued themselves to petrol stations - all the things that seem more 'relevant' - and the media ignored them.

Before making a speech at a raucous, busy wedding, one has to ring a glass with a spoon.

It gets people talking about how stupid it is not about what they are trying to achieve.

That's the effect it has on people who think paint on a wall is worse than the climate emergency. "

Which, unfortunately, seems to be a lot of people.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Nothing is achieving change remotely fast enough. All power to the protestors for at least making a stand.

How is being a vandal making a stand, mindless morons

It isn't mindless though.

There's a section about their ideas of protest on their website. Direct action etc. etc."

So glueing yourself to a painting done last century or stopping someone getting to hospital is well thought out REALLY China on its own pollutes enough to trash the world jamming our roads not going to change anything

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By *lephantisMan
over a year ago

Oxford


"Nothing is achieving change remotely fast enough. All power to the protestors for at least making a stand.

How is being a vandal making a stand, mindless morons

It isn't mindless though.

There's a section about their ideas of protest on their website. Direct action etc. etc.

So glueing yourself to a painting done last century or stopping someone getting to hospital is well thought out REALLY China on its own pollutes enough to trash the world jamming our roads not going to change anything "

1. We can't put pressure on China: we can put pressure on our own government.

2. China is investing hugely in carbon reduction - gigantically more than the UK.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"Nothing is achieving change remotely fast enough. All power to the protestors for at least making a stand.

How is being a vandal making a stand, mindless morons

It isn't mindless though.

There's a section about their ideas of protest on their website. Direct action etc. etc.

So glueing yourself to a painting done last century or stopping someone getting to hospital is well thought out REALLY China on its own pollutes enough to trash the world jamming our roads not going to change anything "

"Trash" isn't the problem. The problem is burning fossil fuels and increasing the CO2 levels in the atmosphere.

CO2 emissions per capita in China is only slightly higher than it is in the UK. And even if it wasn't, we should still do everything we can.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And for your information I have never read the daily mail in my life..

Just like the pictures?

See it's these kind of comments that just turn people off to the cause completely because you're not prepared to have an adult discussion about it."

Sure it is. Silly me for missing the part where you were open minded to that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Half wit protestors spray front of Harrods with orange paint. Are they really stupid enough to think this achieves anything. I would make them clean up their mess before charging them with vandalism "

I thought it was the Aston Martin showroom window with the paint.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nothing is achieving change remotely fast enough. All power to the protestors for at least making a stand.

How is being a vandal making a stand, mindless morons

It isn't mindless though.

There's a section about their ideas of protest on their website. Direct action etc. etc.

So glueing yourself to a painting done last century or stopping someone getting to hospital is well thought out REALLY China on its own pollutes enough to trash the world jamming our roads not going to change anything "

Never understand the logic of this.

I don't need to clean up my backyard because those over there are shitting all over their backyard!?!

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"Nothing is achieving change remotely fast enough. All power to the protestors for at least making a stand.

How is being a vandal making a stand, mindless morons

It isn't mindless though.

There's a section about their ideas of protest on their website. Direct action etc. etc.

So glueing yourself to a painting done last century or stopping someone getting to hospital is well thought out REALLY China on its own pollutes enough to trash the world jamming our roads not going to change anything

Never understand the logic of this.

I don't need to clean up my backyard because those over there are shitting all over their backyard!?!

"

It's easier than facing up to the fact that we need to make changes.

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington


"Nothing is achieving change remotely fast enough. All power to the protestors for at least making a stand.

How is being a vandal making a stand, mindless morons

It isn't mindless though.

There's a section about their ideas of protest on their website. Direct action etc. etc.

So glueing yourself to a painting done last century or stopping someone getting to hospital is well thought out REALLY China on its own pollutes enough to trash the world jamming our roads not going to change anything

Never understand the logic of this.

I don't need to clean up my backyard because those over there are shitting all over their backyard!?!

It's easier than facing up to the fact that we need to make changes."
what changes have you made ? I’m not having a dig I’m just interested to see what others are doing to cut down on the use of fossil fuels

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Nothing is achieving change remotely fast enough. All power to the protestors for at least making a stand.

How is being a vandal making a stand, mindless morons

It isn't mindless though.

There's a section about their ideas of protest on their website. Direct action etc. etc.

So glueing yourself to a painting done last century or stopping someone getting to hospital is well thought out REALLY China on its own pollutes enough to trash the world jamming our roads not going to change anything

Never understand the logic of this.

I don't need to clean up my backyard because those over there are shitting all over their backyard!?!

It's easier than facing up to the fact that we need to make changes. what changes have you made ? I’m not having a dig I’m just interested to see what others are doing to cut down on the use of fossil fuels "

And there's the rub

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"Nothing is achieving change remotely fast enough. All power to the protestors for at least making a stand.

How is being a vandal making a stand, mindless morons

It isn't mindless though.

There's a section about their ideas of protest on their website. Direct action etc. etc.

So glueing yourself to a painting done last century or stopping someone getting to hospital is well thought out REALLY China on its own pollutes enough to trash the world jamming our roads not going to change anything

Never understand the logic of this.

I don't need to clean up my backyard because those over there are shitting all over their backyard!?!

It's easier than facing up to the fact that we need to make changes. what changes have you made ? I’m not having a dig I’m just interested to see what others are doing to cut down on the use of fossil fuels "

I have a degree in environmental science. So I've always done what I could. But as a rough summary over the past 25 years.

Reduce domestic energy use, everything from turning out lights, using low wattage bulbs, installing better insulation, choosing energy efficient devices, only boiling enough water in the kettle for the tea I am making etc etc. This is a long arsed list, but you get the idea.

Chang my diet to avoid industries that produce methane and CO2.

Donate money to and volunteer at charities that plant trees.

"Vote with my wallet", give my business to environmentally aware companies.

Avoid voting for political parties that support oil companies.

Reduce my travel based carbon footprint.

These are just a few examples, I could be doing more, and before I am jumped on. I am not suggesting anyone else should or shouldn't do these things. Just answering the direct question.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"what changes have you made ? I’m not having a dig I’m just interested to see what others are doing to cut down on the use of fossil fuels "

Sure you are

Start a different topic on it and I'll make sure to contribute

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You might wanna tone down the 'idiot' comment.

If you can't handle grown up debate, stay off the internet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Look at them, do they really come across as people who would relate to the common man? Many are far too young with next to zero life experience. If you're able to spend your working hours sitting about then you're not hard done by.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

*Starts list

Yes words....

pillocks

useless morons

No words....

Idiots

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"*Starts list

Yes words....

pillocks

useless morons

No words....

Idiots"

Did you just quote your own words?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just don't click on the UN mandated training it takes 62828 years to complete.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"*Starts list

Yes words....

pillocks

useless morons

No words....

Idiots

Did you just quote your own words?! "

No lol, you posted them first then I mocked you with them...

Lmao

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"*Starts list

Yes words....

pillocks

useless morons

No words....

Idiots

Did you just quote your own words?!

No lol, you posted them first then I mocked you with them...

Lmao"

Getting to be a habit, I'll leave you be

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"*Starts list

Yes words....

pillocks

useless morons

No words....

Idiots

Did you just quote your own words?!

No lol, you posted them first then I mocked you with them...

Lmao"

You've reinvented history there. I quoted you or maybe it was the woman above you who mentioned crayons.

It's all above anyway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Seems folk are gullible for propaganda, so much for being educated and able to think for yourselves eh? Don't forget to eat ze bugs and buy war bonds!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"*Starts list

Yes words....

pillocks

useless morons

No words....

Idiots

Did you just quote your own words?!

No lol, you posted them first then I mocked you with them...

Lmao

You've reinvented history there. I quoted you or maybe it was the woman above you who mentioned crayons.

It's all above anyway

By underandoverFind posts by underandover Couple

4 hours ago

Stratford

"So how many of the outraged have been actually inconvenienced by these protests?

By which I mean more of an inconvenience than having to read about it in the Mail rather too often for your liking.

That's rather a pompous and loaded comment, don't you think?

I admit I've not been personally "inconvenienced" by their shenanigans but I've been pretty outraged by their lack of respect for timeless artwork. (Thankfully, no permanent damage....yet.)

You don't need to be middle aged & right wing to want to smash their heads together & tell them to get a job "

It would be better if I used words like pillocks or useless morons?

"

There you go petal, it is indeed all above

Saved the bother, again

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

Starting off with accurate information about what and who is using the most energy and contributing most to the problem would be a great place to start. Then a strategy of what differences individuals can choose to make to behave differently to have a material impact. Then people can make decent informed decisions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ah I understand now. You dived in without reading the comment that had been referenced.

It's the one just above in which a woman refers to morons and pillocks but you've skipped right by it in your eagerness to make a cheap jibe.

In fairness to her though she wasn't directing those comments as personal abuse to anybody here.

Well unless any involved in the protests are here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ah I understand now. You dived in without reading the comment that had been referenced.

It's the one just above in which a woman refers to morons and pillocks but you've skipped right by it in your eagerness to make a cheap jibe.

In fairness to her though she wasn't directing those comments as personal abuse to anybody here.

Well unless any involved in the protests are here."

I only referenced your use of it. At least own it if you post it. Doesn't matter what went before.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And for your information I have never read the daily mail in my life..

Just like the pictures?

See it's these kind of comments that just turn people off to the cause completely because you're not prepared to have an adult discussion about it.

Sure it is. Silly me for missing the part where you were open minded to that."

Here you go again!

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"Starting off with accurate information about what and who is using the most energy and contributing most to the problem would be a great place to start. Then a strategy of what differences individuals can choose to make to behave differently to have a material impact. Then people can make decent informed decisions. "

We know all that.

The problem is there is no money in reducing the use of fossil fuels.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You might wanna tone down the 'idiot' comment.

If you can't handle grown up debate, stay off the internet."

Says the man who has done nothing but ridicule me on this thread.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You might wanna tone down the 'idiot' comment.

If you can't handle grown up debate, stay off the internet.

Says the man who has done nothing but ridicule me on this thread."

Exactly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You might wanna tone down the 'idiot' comment.

If you can't handle grown up debate, stay off the internet.

Says the man who has done nothing but ridicule me on this thread."

Not you. Just the things you say.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Starting off with accurate information about what and who is using the most energy and contributing most to the problem would be a great place to start. Then a strategy of what differences individuals can choose to make to behave differently to have a material impact. Then people can make decent informed decisions.

We know all that.

The problem is there is no money in reducing the use of fossil fuels."

We know what the problems are and we know what needs changing but I will ask again how criminal damage is going to get the government to act or get the public behind their course.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You might wanna tone down the 'idiot' comment.

If you can't handle grown up debate, stay off the internet.

Says the man who has done nothing but ridicule me on this thread.

Not you. Just the things you say."

You don't like the things I say so you choose to ridicule me instead of having an adult discussion and then throw your toys out the Pram when others do it to you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Toys are still in the pram thanks.

There's far too many examples of illegal activities effecting change to make it worthwhile answering that last question.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Toys are still in the pram thanks.

There's far too many examples of illegal activities effecting change to make it worthwhile answering that last question."

Well why don't you tell us you seem to know all about it and seem to think we are all wrong but you won't actually say anything that means anything or that potentially people could learn something from.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"Starting off with accurate information about what and who is using the most energy and contributing most to the problem would be a great place to start. Then a strategy of what differences individuals can choose to make to behave differently to have a material impact. Then people can make decent informed decisions.

We know all that.

The problem is there is no money in reducing the use of fossil fuels.

We know what the problems are and we know what needs changing but I will ask again how criminal damage is going to get the government to act or get the public behind their course. "

This is the first time you asked me that and I don't know why you're asking me, I haven't caused any criminal damage.

The public should be behind the cause. The government work in the interests of the fossil fuels industry and give precisely zero shits what these protesters or what any of us think.

That's the best I can do in answering your question.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Kinder Scout... Poll tax...

People already replied to this comment the first time you said it. You just don't want to hear it.

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By *pentoall555Man
over a year ago

benfleet

Well said. Totally agree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Starting off with accurate information about what and who is using the most energy and contributing most to the problem would be a great place to start. Then a strategy of what differences individuals can choose to make to behave differently to have a material impact. Then people can make decent informed decisions.

We know all that.

The problem is there is no money in reducing the use of fossil fuels.

We know what the problems are and we know what needs changing but I will ask again how criminal damage is going to get the government to act or get the public behind their course.

This is the first time you asked me that and I don't know why you're asking me, I haven't caused any criminal damage.

The public should be behind the cause. The government work in the interests of the fossil fuels industry and give precisely zero shits what these protesters or what any of us think.

That's the best I can do in answering your question."

The public may well behind the cause they are not however on the whole behind the action.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"Starting off with accurate information about what and who is using the most energy and contributing most to the problem would be a great place to start. Then a strategy of what differences individuals can choose to make to behave differently to have a material impact. Then people can make decent informed decisions.

We know all that.

The problem is there is no money in reducing the use of fossil fuels.

We know what the problems are and we know what needs changing but I will ask again how criminal damage is going to get the government to act or get the public behind their course.

This is the first time you asked me that and I don't know why you're asking me, I haven't caused any criminal damage.

The public should be behind the cause. The government work in the interests of the fossil fuels industry and give precisely zero shits what these protesters or what any of us think.

That's the best I can do in answering your question.

The public may well behind the cause they are not however on the whole behind the action. "

Does it matter if the public are behind their action or not?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Starting off with accurate information about what and who is using the most energy and contributing most to the problem would be a great place to start. Then a strategy of what differences individuals can choose to make to behave differently to have a material impact. Then people can make decent informed decisions.

We know all that.

The problem is there is no money in reducing the use of fossil fuels.

We know what the problems are and we know what needs changing but I will ask again how criminal damage is going to get the government to act or get the public behind their course.

This is the first time you asked me that and I don't know why you're asking me, I haven't caused any criminal damage.

The public should be behind the cause. The government work in the interests of the fossil fuels industry and give precisely zero shits what these protesters or what any of us think.

That's the best I can do in answering your question.

The public may well behind the cause they are not however on the whole behind the action.

Does it matter if the public are behind their action or not?"

Of course it does because it will turn people against what they are trying to achieve. The majority of people want to do something about climate change however right now people are more worried about how they are going to heat their home and feed their family this Winter.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"Starting off with accurate information about what and who is using the most energy and contributing most to the problem would be a great place to start. Then a strategy of what differences individuals can choose to make to behave differently to have a material impact. Then people can make decent informed decisions.

We know all that.

The problem is there is no money in reducing the use of fossil fuels.

We know what the problems are and we know what needs changing but I will ask again how criminal damage is going to get the government to act or get the public behind their course.

This is the first time you asked me that and I don't know why you're asking me, I haven't caused any criminal damage.

The public should be behind the cause. The government work in the interests of the fossil fuels industry and give precisely zero shits what these protesters or what any of us think.

That's the best I can do in answering your question.

The public may well behind the cause they are not however on the whole behind the action.

Does it matter if the public are behind their action or not?

Of course it does because it will turn people against what they are trying to achieve. The majority of people want to do something about climate change however right now people are more worried about how they are going to heat their home and feed their family this Winter. "

What kind of person changes their mind about wanting the government to do something about climate change because someone threw paint on Harrods?

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over a year ago


"Starting off with accurate information about what and who is using the most energy and contributing most to the problem would be a great place to start. Then a strategy of what differences individuals can choose to make to behave differently to have a material impact. Then people can make decent informed decisions.

We know all that.

The problem is there is no money in reducing the use of fossil fuels.

We know what the problems are and we know what needs changing but I will ask again how criminal damage is going to get the government to act or get the public behind their course.

This is the first time you asked me that and I don't know why you're asking me, I haven't caused any criminal damage.

The public should be behind the cause. The government work in the interests of the fossil fuels industry and give precisely zero shits what these protesters or what any of us think.

That's the best I can do in answering your question.

The public may well behind the cause they are not however on the whole behind the action.

Does it matter if the public are behind their action or not?

Of course it does because it will turn people against what they are trying to achieve. The majority of people want to do something about climate change however right now people are more worried about how they are going to heat their home and feed their family this Winter.

What kind of person changes their mind about wanting the government to do something about climate change because someone threw paint on Harrods?

"

It's not about changing their mind and I think you know that! it's about people just switching off.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"Starting off with accurate information about what and who is using the most energy and contributing most to the problem would be a great place to start. Then a strategy of what differences individuals can choose to make to behave differently to have a material impact. Then people can make decent informed decisions.

We know all that.

The problem is there is no money in reducing the use of fossil fuels.

We know what the problems are and we know what needs changing but I will ask again how criminal damage is going to get the government to act or get the public behind their course.

This is the first time you asked me that and I don't know why you're asking me, I haven't caused any criminal damage.

The public should be behind the cause. The government work in the interests of the fossil fuels industry and give precisely zero shits what these protesters or what any of us think.

That's the best I can do in answering your question.

The public may well behind the cause they are not however on the whole behind the action.

Does it matter if the public are behind their action or not?

Of course it does because it will turn people against what they are trying to achieve. The majority of people want to do something about climate change however right now people are more worried about how they are going to heat their home and feed their family this Winter.

What kind of person changes their mind about wanting the government to do something about climate change because someone threw paint on Harrods?

It's not about changing their mind and I think you know that! it's about people just switching off. "

Well, I can't imagine anyone who understands climate change and wants the government to do something about it, would switch off because someone threw paint on Harrods.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You have to maintain a higher moral ground if you want to hold the attention and respect of a nation.

Sure isn't that why half of politicians and public officials have to resign?

Same goes for the likes of this. You can't preach from a grubby soapbox

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

What I find interesting is people defer this to any government... The difference will come when individuals start taking ownership of all the shit they keep buying from China mostly and the 6 yearly holidays. Nobody needs anyone to tell them.

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By *herryblossom_BJWoman
over a year ago

Oxfordshire/Hampshire

I hate it. As ultimately it comes out of tax payers pockets

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What I find interesting is people defer this to any government... The difference will come when individuals start taking ownership of all the shit they keep buying from China mostly and the 6 yearly holidays. Nobody needs anyone to tell them. "

The vast majority of people do not take 6 holidays a year and it smacks of entitlement and privilege when people start saying people shouldn't buy cheap goods. Lots of people have no option but to buy cheap mass produced goods.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"What I find interesting is people defer this to any government... The difference will come when individuals start taking ownership of all the shit they keep buying from China mostly and the 6 yearly holidays. Nobody needs anyone to tell them.

The vast majority of people do not take 6 holidays a year and it smacks of entitlement and privilege when people start saying people shouldn't buy cheap goods. Lots of people have no option but to buy cheap mass produced goods."

Sure that's right. We are the people who made the mess. The only way out is if we dig our way out. If people don't change nothing changes. You can argue all you like but the facts don't change.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I do not understand how spraying Orange paint on a building, Is pouring excrement over a statue, Pouring milk on the floor of supermarkets and gluing your hand to a painting is going to stop millions suffering from climate change."

Attention seeking... pure n simple, like a 5 yr old throwing a tantrum

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s easy and lazy to hate, it’s hard and takes work to understand.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A protest protesting protesters "

Be great to Show them how to carry out a Protest that doesn't have a Negative effect on the general public, that can therefore not deter from the point they're making.

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over a year ago

Although what we're about to write is not meant seriously in any way.. thought we'd share with any of you other mischievous types what made us laugh.

having glued themselves wouldn't it be hilarious to get them to regret it and hopefully deter others in future By taking advantage of their restricted situation like covering up their ears or eyes. Or sticking things to them that don't break any laws but give maximum irritation or discomfort.

All sorts of things if you let your dark imagination run

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Although what we're about to write is not meant seriously in any way.. thought we'd share with any of you other mischievous types what made us laugh.

having glued themselves wouldn't it be hilarious to get them to regret it and hopefully deter others in future By taking advantage of their restricted situation like covering up their ears or eyes. Or sticking things to them that don't break any laws but give maximum irritation or discomfort.

All sorts of things if you let your dark imagination run "

Like tar and feathers?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Although what we're about to write is not meant seriously in any way.. thought we'd share with any of you other mischievous types what made us laugh.

having glued themselves wouldn't it be hilarious to get them to regret it and hopefully deter others in future By taking advantage of their restricted situation like covering up their ears or eyes. Or sticking things to them that don't break any laws but give maximum irritation or discomfort.

All sorts of things if you let your dark imagination run

Like tar and feathers?"

Hmm?? Not sure about that as needs to be something that won't be inhuman. Pouring tar not really acceptable.. Nope definitely not.

Something more clever and creative

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over a year ago

Can anyone name a protest movement that achieved anything by pleasing people?

Seriously, any protest movement that achieved anything had to deal with a significant number of people saying the same stuff everyone is spouting on here.

"They should do it in a less offensive way."

"Why don't they just work within the electoral system?"

Also for everyone complaining about "criminal damage" to art ot statues: you are proving their point. They are targeting these things because people care more about a statue than a rainforest, etc.

Also, it's beyond disingenuous to say that people should work on technology to fix these problems instead of protesting. It's a bad faith argument and you know it. Even if the technology existed it would take political buy-in to roll it out on a large enough scale.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bring back the stocks, let us throw rotting veg at them!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Problem they have is pissing everyday folks off isnt likely to get people onside more likely to push people away from the things they want people to care about I know.

We have had a few discussions on the forums about this. I do empathise with people being inconvenienced and I do not agree with vandalism but then as a few (cannot recall who) mentioned that women would not enjoy equal rights today if it had not been for the likes of Emily Pankhurst etc."

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

I wonder how Marcus and Morgan feel about the ambulance that was delayed by 40 minutes and sadly the lady died in an emergency every second counts

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"Bring back the stocks, let us throw rotting veg at them!! "

Or transition away from fossil fuels and stop heating up the planet.

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"Can anyone name a protest movement that achieved anything by pleasing people?

Seriously, any protest movement that achieved anything had to deal with a significant number of people saying the same stuff everyone is spouting on here.

"They should do it in a less offensive way."

"Why don't they just work within the electoral system?"

Also for everyone complaining about "criminal damage" to art ot statues: you are proving their point. They are targeting these things because people care more about a statue than a rainforest, etc.

Also, it's beyond disingenuous to say that people should work on technology to fix these problems instead of protesting. It's a bad faith argument and you know it. Even if the technology existed it would take political buy-in to roll it out on a large enough scale."

More oil for me please..

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol


"Half wit protestors spray front of Harrods with orange paint. Are they really stupid enough to think this achieves anything. I would make them clean up their mess before charging them with vandalism

Well it got you talking about them.....so it's achieved at least one thing.

A"

Not in a good way and not supporting them either as most would rather drive right through them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It’s easy and lazy to hate, it’s hard and takes work to understand.

"

Except you can understand something and still think it's not right.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields


"Half wit protestors spray front of Harrods with orange paint. Are they really stupid enough to think this achieves anything. I would make them clean up their mess before charging them with vandalism

Well it got you talking about them.....so it's achieved at least one thing.

A

Not in a good way and not supporting them either as most would rather drive right through them "

Extremely cynical. Most people are good.

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"Bring back the stocks, let us throw rotting veg at them!!

Or transition away from fossil fuels and stop heating up the planet."

Warner planet required…

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Bring back the stocks, let us throw rotting veg at them!!

Or transition away from fossil fuels and stop heating up the planet."

Guess you've run out of glue and paint....

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol


"Although what we're about to write is not meant seriously in any way.. thought we'd share with any of you other mischievous types what made us laugh.

having glued themselves wouldn't it be hilarious to get them to regret it and hopefully deter others in future By taking advantage of their restricted situation like covering up their ears or eyes. Or sticking things to them that don't break any laws but give maximum irritation or discomfort.

All sorts of things if you let your dark imagination run "

Itching powder ??

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington


"Although what we're about to write is not meant seriously in any way.. thought we'd share with any of you other mischievous types what made us laugh.

having glued themselves wouldn't it be hilarious to get them to regret it and hopefully deter others in future By taking advantage of their restricted situation like covering up their ears or eyes. Or sticking things to them that don't break any laws but give maximum irritation or discomfort.

All sorts of things if you let your dark imagination run

Itching powder ??"
or offer them tea or coffee with a sprinkle of Turbolax(dumb&dumber)

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol


"Although what we're about to write is not meant seriously in any way.. thought we'd share with any of you other mischievous types what made us laugh.

having glued themselves wouldn't it be hilarious to get them to regret it and hopefully deter others in future By taking advantage of their restricted situation like covering up their ears or eyes. Or sticking things to them that don't break any laws but give maximum irritation or discomfort.

All sorts of things if you let your dark imagination run

Itching powder ?? or offer them tea or coffee with a sprinkle of Turbolax(dumb&dumber)"

Now that’s a plan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Itching powder.. Good one

(? Would laxatives be too wrong? )

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By *avexxMan
over a year ago

cheshire

fuck them off

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By *issalignedTV/TS
over a year ago

London

Stop glue !

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Bring back the stocks, let us throw rotting veg at them!! "

And spray them with orange paint

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