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By *gent Coulson OP Man
over a year ago

Secret hideaway in the pennines

If only 4% of our total fossil fuel import currently comes from Russia, why the fuck are we having an energy crisis

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

"If only 4% of our total fossil fuel import currently comes from Russia, why the fuck are we having an energy crisis"

Stock market wankers speculation

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If only 4% of our total fossil fuel import currently comes from Russia, why the fuck are we having an energy crisis"
exactly the bullshit excuse makes no sense theres much more going on that meets the eyes its like bullshit transformers out there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Russia is an easy thing to blame everything on thats why the ofgem guy put me in fight mode

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If only 4% of our total fossil fuel import currently comes from Russia, why the fuck are we having an energy crisis"

There's a lot of stuff that doesn't add up.

Way back when prices first started to rise I remember thinking I was glad we'd switched to an energy supplier that only used renewables... turns out that was bollocks.

It's all bollocks. The 'market'. The grid. All constructs to serve the great capitalist gods.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"If only 4% of our total fossil fuel import currently comes from Russia, why the fuck are we having an energy crisis"

Exactly! So to justify a 300 per cent increase... In energy costs. That 4% must have increased a shit load. Its complete profiteering and politicking... Same as the cost of diesel.... There's no reason at all why diesel is so pricy now. The crude oil price is lower now than whe. It was 130 a litre.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Russia is an easy thing to blame everything on thats why the ofgem guy put me in fight mode"
the rises were anounced 8 months before russia invaded

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

It's okay kids Boris will be back and keeping you warm soon

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"If only 4% of our total fossil fuel import currently comes from Russia, why the fuck are we having an energy crisis

There's a lot of stuff that doesn't add up.

Way back when prices first started to rise I remember thinking I was glad we'd switched to an energy supplier that only used renewables... turns out that was bollocks.

It's all bollocks. The 'market'. The grid. All constructs to serve the great capitalist gods. "

Same as carbon neutral bollocks. What does that even mean lying fuckers.

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By *om and JennieCouple
over a year ago

Chams or Socials

I think there are a number of things at play and these are only my opinions

Putin knew years ago what he was going to do and built up his finances by letting the west get reliant on him

Secondly we got rid of the existing coal and some of the gas fired powerstations way too quickly mainly due to the LCPD before we had enough renewable to smooth the transition over

And finally we are sitting on huge stockpiles of coal but we would rather import it from halfway round the world and make other people rich.

Now if only the can scale up nuclear fusion which looks like it could be in the 2050s then we would be in a great place.

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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago

Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands

"If only 4% of our total fossil fuel import currently comes from Russia, why the fuck are we having an energy crisis

There's a lot of stuff that doesn't add up.

Way back when prices first started to rise I remember thinking I was glad we'd switched to an energy supplier that only used renewables... turns out that was bollocks.

It's all bollocks. The 'market'. The grid. All constructs to serve the great capitalist gods. "

Electricity is generated using Wind Farms,Solar Panel Farms, Coal, Biomass,Nuclear, and Natural Gas it is all fed into the National Grid, 3 of these are what I would call renewable although Biomass is debatable. How any one energy supplier can claim to use only renewable electricity is open to question.

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By *yron69Man
over a year ago

Fareham

Why are the supplier profits up when they claim its more expensive for them to buy?

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By *bi HaiveMan
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over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"If only 4% of our total fossil fuel import currently comes from Russia, why the fuck are we having an energy crisis"

Simple.

We don't buy much from them but Europe does. And as Europe can't buy from Russia at the moment they need to hold on to stocks that they'd usually sell to us, meaning our supply has been cut and there's less fuel to go round. Supply doesn't meet demand and therefore prices rise.

Add in the fact that another major issue is storage and transport costs come into play. Unfortunately the Tories closed down many of the storage facilities and mothballed others rather than maintain them so we have storage issues on top too.

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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago

Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands

"Why are the supplier profits up when they claim its more expensive for them to buy?"

The most expensive method of generating electricity is using gas, The Generating companies base their prices on this despite the fact that the 40% which comes from renewables cost much less to produce, every sunny day and windy day is a bonus day for the Generators but not the consumers.

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By *ellhungvweMan
over a year ago

Cheltenham

Wholesale energy prices are calculated on the cost of the last supplier bid to be accepted. That is currently gas. As gas is so high everyone else gets paid the price it costs to buy gas - hence an energy crisis.

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By *ellhungvweMan
over a year ago

Cheltenham

Strangely the one set of energy producers who are not making big profits are the gas power stations. Everyone else (renewable etc) are absolutely coining it in because their costs are so much lower.

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

local, but not too local

"If only 4% of our total fossil fuel import currently comes from Russia, why the fuck are we having an energy crisis"

Because we are competing with the other countries who are also affected and the supply is generally around the level of demand in order to hold the pricing stable.

Aka global capitalism.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Electricity is generated using Wind Farms,Solar Panel Farms, Coal, Biomass,Nuclear, and Natural Gas it is all fed into the National Grid, 3 of these are what I would call renewable although Biomass is debatable. How any one energy supplier can claim to use only renewable electricity is open to question.

It was always obvious there's only one cable coming into the house but I did expect there was some effort at accounting for whether your bills really were supporting the sources they claimed. Evidently not.

I saw a graphic a few days back showing the change over time of UK sources. Essentially demonstrating that in recent years all we've really done is moved from coal... to gas.

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By *ellhungvweMan
over a year ago

Cheltenham

I saw a graphic a few days back showing the change over time of UK sources. Essentially demonstrating that in recent years all we've really done is moved from coal... to gas."

All generstors put their electricity into a big pot (aka the grid) and then that is resold at a single price (that of the highest cost producer whose energy is in the pot). What the end customer buys is basically a branding exercise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If only 4% of our total fossil fuel import currently comes from Russia, why the fuck are we having an energy crisis"

You may have noticed that the pound tanked recently, to an all time low against the dollar. Oil is traded in dollars. That's the single biggest hit for us. Europe use more Russian fuels, but the Euro hasn't tanked...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"All generstors put their electricity into a big pot (aka the grid) and then that is resold at a single price (that of the highest cost producer whose energy is in the pot). What the end customer buys is basically a branding exercise."

That bit's obvious. But if you're told you're paying for the small green beans at the bottom of the pot it's reasonable to assume your money is used for the green beans.

Conveniently the pot turns into a stew when people ask about the green beans.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OPEC have also cut oil production by two million barrels to reverse the slump in the value of oil. This is knocking into the general fuels availability pricing structure. Also remember that commodities are priced in dollars and we just suffered a fairly catastrophic slide against that currency after Boris was ousted and the markets didn't like the replacement.

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By *ellhungvweMan
over a year ago

Cheltenham

That bit's obvious. But if you're told you're paying for the small green beans at the bottom of the pot it's reasonable to assume your money is used for the green beans.

Conveniently the pot turns into a stew when people ask about the green beans."

I do agree. Was just pointing out how it actually works as opposed to how people think it works.

Marketing the green beans is what makes the world go round

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That bit's obvious. But if you're told you're paying for the small green beans at the bottom of the pot it's reasonable to assume your money is used for the green beans.

Conveniently the pot turns into a stew when people ask about the green beans.

I do agree. Was just pointing out how it actually works as opposed to how people think it works.

Marketing the green beans is what makes the world go round

That's just what they tell you. It's still the dirty brown beans that do the real work

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By *ssexSwitchMan
over a year ago

hornchurch

"If only 4% of our total fossil fuel import currently comes from Russia, why the fuck are we having an energy crisis"

Because others like Germany are much more reliant. Suddenly they need to buy also and to get that supply they have to pay more. That means our current suppliers can sell for more to them so we have to pay more to keep the supply coming to us.

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

"It's okay kids Boris will be back and keeping you warm soon "

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

That bit's obvious. But if you're told you're paying for the small green beans at the bottom of the pot it's reasonable to assume your money is used for the green beans.

Conveniently the pot turns into a stew when people ask about the green beans."

Interesting that small fact isn't put out on their save the world eco green energy facts. Slippery fuckers

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By *andering Welsh GuyMan
over a year ago

All over the place

"If only 4% of our total fossil fuel import currently comes from Russia, why the fuck are we having an energy crisis"

Puts on tin hat ready to preach haha jokes

But seriously the war in the Ukraine is the excuse not the sole reason

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By *astlincscoupleCouple
over a year ago

Tinsel Town

"If only 4% of our total fossil fuel import currently comes from Russia, why the fuck are we having an energy crisis"

It's because your wearing a Flames top

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria

"If only 4% of our total fossil fuel import currently comes from Russia, why the fuck are we having an energy crisis"

All UK energy companies are French or Italia

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By *rDiscretionXXXMan
over a year ago

Gilfach

"All UK energy companies are French or Italia"

That's just not true. The French and Italians don't own the big fields full of solar panels that I drive past every day. The big wind turbines on the hill opposite me aren't owned by foreigners. The gas powering my heating comes from the North Sea, not from French or Italian fields.

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By *gent Coulson OP Man
over a year ago

Secret hideaway in the pennines

"If only 4% of our total fossil fuel import currently comes from Russia, why the fuck are we having an energy crisis

It's because your wearing a Flames top

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got to keep warm somehow

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"All UK energy companies are French or Italia

Of the big 5, British Gas and SSE are UK owned. EDF is French, Scottish Power is Spanish and EON is German.

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria

"All UK energy companies are French or Italia

Of the big 5, British Gas and SSE are UK owned. EDF is French, Scottish Power is Spanish and EON is German.

All infrastructure is German Korean and Italian made..

Transformers all Korean.

Switchgear and the mains to transmit energy is all German.

Insulate a pot of made in Italy..

The overhead cables come from Turkey.

Underground cables are being supplied by a French company.

The lower £ is going to keep pushing up prices..

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

All UK energy companies are French or Italia

Of the big 5, British Gas and SSE are UK owned. EDF is French, Scottish Power is Spanish and EON is German.

All infrastructure is German Korean and Italian made..

Transformers all Korean.

Switchgear and the mains to transmit energy is all German.

Insulate a pot of made in Italy..

The overhead cables come from Turkey.

Underground cables are being supplied by a French company.

The lower £ is going to keep pushing up prices..

Yes. But that's infrastructure which is owned by the national grid rather than energy companies. The energy companies aren't all French or Italian.

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By *ellhungvweMan
over a year ago

Cheltenham

All UK energy companies are French or Italia

Of the big 5, British Gas and SSE are UK owned. EDF is French, Scottish Power is Spanish and EON is German.

All infrastructure is German Korean and Italian made..

Transformers all Korean.

Switchgear and the mains to transmit energy is all German.

Insulate a pot of made in Italy..

The overhead cables come from Turkey.

Underground cables are being supplied by a French company.

The lower £ is going to keep pushing up prices..

What currency is this equipment priced in? GBP/EUR is basically the same price (1.14) as it was 5 years ago (1.13) so there is basically no change on EUR priced goods due to foreign exchange movements.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I use powerbanks lol

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By *ilfCrumpet9Man
over a year ago

Wirral

Upper management bonuses, big salaries and shareholders come first. The rest of us have to carry that weight

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not sure you understand International energy markets, tbh.

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By *adCherriesCouple
over a year ago

Cheshire/Northwest

Other countries buying from Russia have stopped and now buying from the same sources as us, making supply and demand an issue.

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria

All UK energy companies are French or Italia

Of the big 5, British Gas and SSE are UK owned. EDF is French, Scottish Power is Spanish and EON is German.

All infrastructure is German Korean and Italian made..

Transformers all Korean.

Switchgear and the mains to transmit energy is all German.

Insulate a pot of made in Italy..

The overhead cables come from Turkey.

Underground cables are being supplied by a French company.

The lower £ is going to keep pushing up prices..

Yes. But that's infrastructure which is owned by the national grid rather than energy companies. The energy companies aren't all French or Italian.

Nat Grid American..

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

All UK energy companies are French or Italia

Of the big 5, British Gas and SSE are UK owned. EDF is French, Scottish Power is Spanish and EON is German.

All infrastructure is German Korean and Italian made..

Transformers all Korean.

Switchgear and the mains to transmit energy is all German.

Insulate a pot of made in Italy..

The overhead cables come from Turkey.

Underground cables are being supplied by a French company.

The lower £ is going to keep pushing up prices..

Yes. But that's infrastructure which is owned by the national grid rather than energy companies. The energy companies aren't all French or Italian.

Nat Grid American.."

For everything else theres..mastercard

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Politicians are in the pocket of the fossil fuels industry. The crux of the issue is fuel production is down globally. Saudi Arabia has cut their fuel production as an example, that alone will put prices up. The war in Ukraine is not a factor, at least for us in the UK anyway. That said, it doesn't stop the authorities and media lieing to us as usual.

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By *egasus NobMan
over a year ago

Merton

Investors taking there money else where. When in doubt blame war/Russia or immigration.

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