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"I get a lot of messages from 'straight' guys. If you're not out yet that's fine but I'm only going to meet people who are comfortable in their sexuality." Exactly this | |||
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"So every now and then we open our profile to single guys ...we then get bombarded by "bi" guys wanting to play yet their profile is "straight" Basically if you haven't got the balls to put Bi or at least curious, don't message people pretending you are * rant over" Totally Agree it’s guys that are edging their bets. They message us to say they are curious. Then put that on your profile. Mr | |||
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"Yeah, agree with previous comment. Don’t judge, the world is not quite ready for guys to be open with their sexuality. When a guy declares himself as bi he is not doubling his chances to find a partner it’s quite vice versa, he is halving his chances. It’s not just on fab, it’s applicable in general. We all have preferences. I totally respect your preferences to meet only open bi guys. I also can understand your curiosity to understand why some guys on fab has straight profile but looking for other type of play. Yet I think the post could have been less judgemental. Peace to all, enjoy this fab Tuesday " I think there's a massive difference between someone who is unsure of their sexuality and communicates that when messaging and someone who is totally comfortable with their sexuality and chooses to lie about it on their profile to get sex with those who state they don't meet bi guys, when they are in fact bi, and have had many bi experiences. It's about being lied to, or knowing they're lying to others. I completely appreciate it will be an internal struggle for some, coupled with fear of homophobia, but it also feels like shit that the person contacting you is prepared to lie either way to get sex. I'm sure they'd find people to be far less judgemental if, even in their opening message they'd explain it was new to them, if that was the case. Or even worse, the ones "that aren't bi and can't get sex with a woman but they're horny so it's a means to an end" | |||
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"So every now and then we open our profile to single guys ...we then get bombarded by "bi" guys wanting to play yet their profile is "straight" Basically if you haven't got the balls to put Bi or at least curious, don't message people pretending you are * rant over" It's entirely because of the double standard on Fab (and in life in general) concerning bi men vs bi women. One is seen as desirable and attractive and the other undesirable and a health risk. I understand why some men are reluctant to put bi or curious. I have curious as my status simply to differentiate from those that are fully bi (i.e. indulge in anal with men, giving or receiving) as I'm only orally bi (hence the name!). If my tastes ever change and that suddenly floats my boat I'll switch it to bi. There's no option to put bi-flexible, situationally-bi or any other choice, so that seems the most appropriate. A | |||
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"I'm at a stage where I don't care what anyone thinks about me so I'm open with my bisexuality. Not everyone's there yet though and we still live in a world that has a lot of homophobia. Some men grew up in a time when you got crucified for anything even slightly deemed as gay. This fear is deep rooted in many men. In short don't judge, especially if you're female. You can't begin to relate to what it's like to be a bisexual man " I'm the male of the couple I posted this, and out as a bi guy....I'm not judging it just pisses me of that people aren't honest | |||
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"I appreciate that many people don't want to come out of the closet in their general life. I've probably had sex with more men then most of my female co-workers, but I appear straight (hetero-romantic) But if you can't be honest about your interests on fab, what else are you lying about / concealing?" Exactly put much better than I did | |||
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"The reason a lot of guys have Straight on their profile is because there are a lot of women and couples on here who refuse to meet bi guys so the guys think that by having Straight on their profile gives them better odds of a meet. Personally I’d rather not lie about my sexuality and just take my chances with getting a meet with someone who enjoys the company of bi men. " I've probably done better as 'bi', then I would have as 'straight'. | |||
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"So every now and then we open our profile to single guys ...we then get bombarded by "bi" guys wanting to play yet their profile is "straight" Basically if you haven't got the balls to put Bi or at least curious, don't message people pretending you are * rant over It's entirely because of the double standard on Fab (and in life in general) concerning bi men vs bi women. One is seen as desirable and attractive and the other undesirable and a health risk. I understand why some men are reluctant to put bi or curious. I have curious as my status simply to differentiate from those that are fully bi (i.e. indulge in anal with men, giving or receiving) as I'm only orally bi (hence the name!). If my tastes ever change and that suddenly floats my boat I'll switch it to bi. There's no option to put bi-flexible, situationally-bi or any other choice, so that seems the most appropriate. A" There is a whole section of your profile where you can describe your flavour of bisexuality. Top, bottom, oral only, only in a MMF, only with TVs (yes, a man playing with a TV is bi-sexual) Personally I'm a Gynephile, attracted to feminine people, whatever the contents of their underwear. But it's a flexible rule. | |||
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"I've found plenty of guys chatting to me and openly bi but status says straight I had my status as straight for a while then changed it to bi as I realised that this place is for everyone looking for the same thing It's reasonably anonymous so why hide the thing you like then hunt for others Just let everyone know up front" It's not anonymous at all. People could be outed for being bisexual and it could cause them real life problems. I don't blame them for wanting privacy. There shouldn't be a sexuality tick box on profiles, it's irrelevant. | |||
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"I'm at a stage where I don't care what anyone thinks about me so I'm open with my bisexuality. Not everyone's there yet though and we still live in a world that has a lot of homophobia. Some men grew up in a time when you got crucified for anything even slightly deemed as gay. This fear is deep rooted in many men. In short don't judge, especially if you're female. You can't begin to relate to what it's like to be a bisexual man I'm the male of the couple I posted this, and out as a bi guy....I'm not judging it just pisses me of that people aren't honest" You have public face pics so don't care who sees you on a sex site. You won't be able to understand. | |||
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"I get messages from guys with "straight" on their profile and they say they are bi! Then when you ask them why they lie to people about their sexuality they get all defensive?? Blocked!!! I'm bi and proud of it, if thats not for you then move on. " | |||
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"Think you have missed the point entirely. Guys who like to play with cock don't want to prejudice possible meetings with females. Most women are not turned on by bisex guys and pass them by. Hence the deception. Not condoning, just commenting. " most (many? Some?) Women aren't turned on by the bisexuality of a guy. Most/many/some simply don't give a fuck what you do elsewhere. However they can be turned on by the guy. Some for whatever reason will not sleep with a guy because he has thought about men in the past. I don't get that ybh, but as long as they state their preference in an unoffensive way, thats fine. | |||
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"I get a lot of messages from 'straight' guys. If you're not out yet that's fine but I'm only going to meet people who are comfortable in their sexuality." Same here, and if I'm on cam get lots of "straight" watching, making comments, asking about c2c, meets, etc. Sometimes wonder if there are any truly straight guys on here. | |||
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"Think you have missed the point entirely. Guys who like to play with cock don't want to prejudice possible meetings with females. Most women are not turned on by bisex guys and pass them by. Hence the deception. Not condoning, just commenting. " I think people are well aware of that. I find the lack of honesty and self confidence to openly be yourself a turn off though. | |||
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"I get a lot of messages from 'straight' guys. If you're not out yet that's fine but I'm only going to meet people who are comfortable in their sexuality. Same here, and if I'm on cam get lots of "straight" watching, making comments, asking about c2c, meets, etc. Sometimes wonder if there are any truly straight guys on here. " I'm straight! 100 % straight as a banana... | |||
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"The reason a lot of guys have Straight on their profile is because there are a lot of women and couples on here who refuse to meet bi guys so the guys think that by having Straight on their profile gives them better odds of a meet. Personally I’d rather not lie about my sexuality and just take my chances with getting a meet with someone who enjoys the company of bi men. I've probably done better as 'bi', then I would have as 'straight'." I'm sure if you counted the couple's that look for bi guys (not fab straight ones) and counted the bo guys you'd find the odds are a lot better than straight (fab or otherwise) guys looking for straight couples. | |||
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"I get a lot of messages from 'straight' guys. If you're not out yet that's fine but I'm only going to meet people who are comfortable in their sexuality." Totally agree! | |||
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"I know of 'straight' men who believe they are straight and Won't admit they are gay/bi but will go with trans/gay men if they are feminine & pretty. Also many that put they are straight as they know it attracts some gay men That's just from my experience " | |||
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"Let's face it, this site is built on a very basic set of values that hadn't been able to keep up with changes in how people identify themselves." They don't need to -- while thousands of people are happy to pay for the gold supporter packages, there's no need for them to move with the times. That's business I guess. | |||
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"I know of 'straight' men who believe they are straight and Won't admit they are gay/bi but will go with trans/gay men if they are feminine & pretty. Also many that put they are straight as they know it attracts some gay men That's just from my experience " So, if a man seeks out extremely masculine women to peg him, he's still straight? | |||
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"Let's face it, this site is built on a very basic set of values that hadn't been able to keep up with changes in how people identify themselves. They don't need to -- while thousands of people are happy to pay for the gold supporter packages, there's no need for them to move with the times. That's business I guess. " Not many places offer the same value, so we're prisoners of market forces... | |||
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"I know of 'straight' men who believe they are straight and Won't admit they are gay/bi but will go with trans/gay men if they are feminine & pretty. Also many that put they are straight as they know it attracts some gay men That's just from my experience So, if a man seeks out extremely masculine women to peg him, he's still straight?" Yes. A man having sex with a woman is considered straight | |||
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"Then just delete any straight guy who asks to play bi if it bothers you that much OP.Its fab it happens. Just like I'm straight but people especially couples seem to think I should be bi on here and can get quite pushy about the fact they think I would love putting on a show with the woman for the man. Does it annoy me no it just makes me roll my eyes and delete the message and either block or put a note on their profile. It's fab it won't change and getting annoyed about it is pointless. If it is a massive bug bear for you both then block all males and go search for men who are bi and ye like the look of them. People have their own reasons as to why they portray their profile the way they do. Some are nervous of being outed in public when they prefer to keep their fab life private and yes that does happen on here anyone who thinks it doesn't is naieve. Or maybe they don't want to put women off who don't want to meet bi men. There's a load of reasons why people aren't completely truthful about it but at the end of the day it's their choice. It may not suit you but it's easier to delete a message and forget about it than allow it to annoy you ." This 1000% If someone we were interested in and physically attracted to happened to have straight on their profile but in conversation said they were open to bi play, we'd not care. Assuming of course when push came to shove (pun intended) he didn't become 100% straight and demand a 1m distance between him and I at all times. Or about 1.10m if we were having a Fox sandwich. Then he'd be asked to go home. A | |||
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"I know of 'straight' men who believe they are straight and Won't admit they are gay/bi but will go with trans/gay men if they are feminine & pretty. Also many that put they are straight as they know it attracts some gay men That's just from my experience So, if a man seeks out extremely masculine women to peg him, he's still straight? Yes. A man having sex with a woman is considered straight " Despite all outward gender signals being male? | |||
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"I know of 'straight' men who believe they are straight and Won't admit they are gay/bi but will go with trans/gay men if they are feminine & pretty. Also many that put they are straight as they know it attracts some gay men That's just from my experience So, if a man seeks out extremely masculine women to peg him, he's still straight? Yes. A man having sex with a woman is considered straight Despite all outward gender signals being male?" Women can be masculine and straight at the same time, what's your point? | |||
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"I know of 'straight' men who believe they are straight and Won't admit they are gay/bi but will go with trans/gay men if they are feminine & pretty. Also many that put they are straight as they know it attracts some gay men That's just from my experience So, if a man seeks out extremely masculine women to peg him, he's still straight? Yes. A man having sex with a woman is considered straight Despite all outward gender signals being male?" What point are you trying to get to? | |||
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"I couldn’t care less if a guy is bi! It wouldn’t stop me meeting them. If anything I find it a turn on more than a turn off " Am I right in thinking you previously felt differently about this? I think I saw a comment from you about it once. | |||
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"I couldn’t care less if a guy is bi! It wouldn’t stop me meeting them. If anything I find it a turn on more than a turn off Am I right in thinking you previously felt differently about this? I think I saw a comment from you about it once." Yes that was me! I did a lot of questioning why and realised it was rooted in bigotry. I’m actually ashamed of my previous stance. | |||
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"I couldn’t care less if a guy is bi! It wouldn’t stop me meeting them. If anything I find it a turn on more than a turn off Am I right in thinking you previously felt differently about this? I think I saw a comment from you about it once. Yes that was me! I did a lot of questioning why and realised it was rooted in bigotry. I’m actually ashamed of my previous stance. " You shouldn't be shameful of views you had before inspection. We take a shitload of duff information and baises in, and that's gonna cause us to have our own poor programming. It's hugely to your credit that you have taken the time to do the inspection and change your views. It's a lot easier to justify out old views than create new ones. You've done everything that can be asked of you. That's should be a cause of pride not shame. | |||
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"I couldn’t care less if a guy is bi! It wouldn’t stop me meeting them. If anything I find it a turn on more than a turn off Am I right in thinking you previously felt differently about this? I think I saw a comment from you about it once. Yes that was me! I did a lot of questioning why and realised it was rooted in bigotry. I’m actually ashamed of my previous stance. " No need for shame, most people are unwilling or unable to question their own beliefs, overcoming that is huge in terms of personal development. Celebrate the growth and self understanding, it's sexy. | |||
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"I couldn’t care less if a guy is bi! It wouldn’t stop me meeting them. If anything I find it a turn on more than a turn off Am I right in thinking you previously felt differently about this? I think I saw a comment from you about it once. Yes that was me! I did a lot of questioning why and realised it was rooted in bigotry. I’m actually ashamed of my previous stance. You shouldn't be shameful of views you had before inspection. We take a shitload of duff information and baises in, and that's gonna cause us to have our own poor programming. It's hugely to your credit that you have taken the time to do the inspection and change your views. It's a lot easier to justify out old views than create new ones. You've done everything that can be asked of you. That's should be a cause of pride not shame. " Introspection is a wonderful thing! And there is no personal growth without it. | |||
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"I couldn’t care less if a guy is bi! It wouldn’t stop me meeting them. If anything I find it a turn on more than a turn off Am I right in thinking you previously felt differently about this? I think I saw a comment from you about it once. Yes that was me! I did a lot of questioning why and realised it was rooted in bigotry. I’m actually ashamed of my previous stance. No need for shame, most people are unwilling or unable to question their own beliefs, overcoming that is huge in terms of personal development. Celebrate the growth and self understanding, it's sexy." Thank you | |||
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"I couldn’t care less if a guy is bi! It wouldn’t stop me meeting them. If anything I find it a turn on more than a turn off Am I right in thinking you previously felt differently about this? I think I saw a comment from you about it once. Yes that was me! I did a lot of questioning why and realised it was rooted in bigotry. I’m actually ashamed of my previous stance. You shouldn't be shameful of views you had before inspection. We take a shitload of duff information and baises in, and that's gonna cause us to have our own poor programming. It's hugely to your credit that you have taken the time to do the inspection and change your views. It's a lot easier to justify out old views than create new ones. You've done everything that can be asked of you. That's should be a cause of pride not shame. Introspection is a wonderful thing! And there is no personal growth without it. " preach x | |||
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"don't message people pretending you are" Any other rules you wish to dictate people to follow | |||
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"Wow. One thing I was impressed with when I joined this site is how non-judgemental it is. This post has changed my view entirely. It is not up to you, nor anyone to dictate or pigeonhole my sexuality. Sexuality is a spectrum, not rigidly categorised. The closest I identify with is ‘Hetero flexible’ There’s not a category on here for that, so I put it on my profile and tick ‘straight’ for ease. I’ve found the worst category on this site is ‘Couple’, especially the smarmy type who think they are Gods gift to the human race. Fortunately I have another category which makes people like the OPs tolerable, and that is ‘blocked’. " | |||
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"I know of 'straight' men who believe they are straight and Won't admit they are gay/bi but will go with trans/gay men if they are feminine & pretty. Also many that put they are straight as they know it attracts some gay men That's just from my experience So, if a man seeks out extremely masculine women to peg him, he's still straight?" Yes, he's just attracted to strong masculine women | |||
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"I guess it doesn’t seem to bother many people what it says on a profile as I do seem to get a lot of unwanted attention from guys on here, even though my profile states that I’m NOT looking to meet with men. I guess its just part of the experience of being on this site….. it’s not like it takes much effort to ignore or delete any messages that are not suitable or to your preferences. " Why don't you block incoming messages from men? Then the only unwanted attention you'll get is people viewing your profile. And looking harms nobody. The site has tools to help stop unwanted contact but many choose not to use them. A | |||
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"Totally agree that sexuality should not be pigeonholed, sexuality is complex and tastes can change from day to day. If I get chatting to someone who I don't initially find attractive, perceptions can change as you get to know the person, or the same goes for people who drink or do other substances, a mental state can alter what you consider a usual taste or preference. I consider myself straight, I'm not physically attracted to men. But I have had sex with both men and women. I find a convincing TV to be just as attractive as a "REAL" woman. Its the feminine look and not the equipment that attracts me. In a MMF scenario I'll happily experiment with another man, for me it is the woman that is erousing me and the rest is tied up in the activity. I have tried sleeping with a man with no woman involved, for me it didn't feel right. I'm happy to have found that out through experimenting. People should feel free to experiment without being judged by a couple of tick boxes. Life is too short. Gay, straight, bi or curious should not be of any concern. The fact is this person has reached out to you, and finds your profile of interest and wants to engage with you as a couple. Are you gonna judge them on a couple of tick boxes? " This site needs more of this | |||
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"I think there's a massive difference between someone who is unsure of their sexuality and communicates that when messaging and someone who is totally comfortable with their sexuality and chooses to lie about it on their profile to get sex with those who state they don't meet bi guys, when they are in fact bi, and have had many bi experiences. It's about being lied to, or knowing they're lying to others. I completely appreciate it will be an internal struggle for some, coupled with fear of homophobia, but it also feels like shit that the person contacting you is prepared to lie either way to get sex. I'm sure they'd find people to be far less judgemental if, even in their opening message they'd explain it was new to them, if that was the case. Or even worse, the ones "that aren't bi and can't get sex with a woman but they're horny so it's a means to an end" " This | |||
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"I couldn’t care less if a guy is bi! It wouldn’t stop me meeting them. If anything I find it a turn on more than a turn off Am I right in thinking you previously felt differently about this? I think I saw a comment from you about it once. Yes that was me! I did a lot of questioning why and realised it was rooted in bigotry. I’m actually ashamed of my previous stance. " Respect for admitting that | |||
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