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"Automatic. I wouldn’t go back to manual. " This is what I keep hearing x | |||
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"I drive a manual with a hand operated clutch, because I like changing gear. I get autos if hiring (holiday etc) but it's really quite boring....." This is my fear, finding it too boring, I love driving and don't want the fun taking out of it x | |||
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"I don't drive, because I don't need to: bus stop a minute away, train station 7 minutes away, and work a bucolic 15 minute countryside walk. When I did, my last car was a gorgeous 20 year old dark blue Golf soft-top. A brilliant car. And I'm sorry to say that I loathe automatics. I choose my own gears depending on the situation. Besides, I'd worry about accidentally slamming on the brakes/accelerator. " This is what I fear, the lack of control. Sometimes it's useful to use engine braking and block change to slow down. | |||
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"A dragon called vhagar " I am the Dragon | |||
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"It will take you five minutes to get used to it. Probably you will not go back " I fear this | |||
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"A dragon called vhagar I am the Dragon " If I ever got to ride you I’d be one happy man. | |||
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"A dragon called vhagar I am the Dragon If I ever got to ride you I’d be one happy man. " I'll be there in a week by the time the auto gets up to speed | |||
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"Sometimes it's useful to use engine braking and block change to slow down. " Very much this. Engine braking once saved (at least) my life. | |||
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"I'm not driving at the moment but I've always driven manual when given the choice; I just don't have the same feeling of being in control in an automatic. Not that I'm a controlling personality type but I'd rather the tonne-and-a-half vehicle I'm driving did exactly what I wanted it to do at all times. By far the worst vehicles are "semi-automatics" or "clutchless manuals". Try parallel-parking one of those on a hill..." I parallel my manual all over the place, controlling the clutch with my middle finger only. It's really easy. | |||
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"Automatic. I wouldn’t go back to manual. This is what I keep hearing x" I say it too . Driving manual , in places like London or Luton . You just wish u have a automatic trust me . I done van multi drop ( pain ) HGV2 manual - ( pain ) My van Stil manual . Was cheap . My car . Renault Scenic MPV automatic Brilliant . Ok is not the sexiest things but does a good job . And if u like to feel it bite the corners a bit more racy , u can do manual control switch to semi - automatic Even on automatic is good reaction enough for 1.5 diesel Someone who wants automatic but is gonna kiss the manual ? I recommend get something with “ semi-automatic option And u just gear up n down no clutching . I never bother with semi automatic Just the effort of roundabouts every 1 yard is off putting Specially in traffic where u barely put the second or even third gear …. | |||
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"Sometimes it's useful to use engine braking and block change to slow down. Very much this. Engine braking once saved (at least) my life." Engine braking and good reflex no doubt. | |||
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"Sometimes it's useful to use engine braking and block change to slow down. Very much this. Engine braking once saved (at least) my life. Engine braking and good reflex no doubt. " Sheer panicky instinct, more like! But that wouldn't have done any good in an automatic. | |||
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"Automatic + electric. I do love a manual, as it allows me to relive my boy racer youth. But for ease (and now speed) I will stick with an auto. Especially when hitting traffic (hello m5/m6) " Yeah, this would be the only thing I like the auto for, being off and on the clutch for miles in traffic is bad | |||
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"I'm not driving at the moment but I've always driven manual when given the choice; I just don't have the same feeling of being in control in an automatic. Not that I'm a controlling personality type but I'd rather the tonne-and-a-half vehicle I'm driving did exactly what I wanted it to do at all times. By far the worst vehicles are "semi-automatics" or "clutchless manuals". Try parallel-parking one of those on a hill..." I hear you. Luckily I won't be driving long distance in it, literally using it for work, not sure I'd want to drive it to Scotland.... I've gone from a Vauxhall Corsa CDTi to this 1.3 Pug, not sure I'd trust it long distance | |||
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"I much prefer driving a manual car. My dad has an automatic so I've gotten well used to it and it's grand but I don't like how the car lags then gets a burst of speed or when overtaking you have less control. Just better if I say what, I say when, I say how " the electric cars have got rid of this. No lag. No sudden jolts. Shit off a shovel. (and no loud over revving when you do it all) | |||
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"I teach manual but have an automatic for my personal car… however I wouldn’t be surprised if in 5-10 years more people will just go for the automatic option as electric cars become the norm… At some stage I’ll have to decide whether to carry on teaching how to use a clutch, as there’ll still be a demand while the second hand market still supplies manuals" Yeah . That’s it . All HGV2 are dropping to automatic . Isn’t it ? Thanks God for that . Doing dustcart in Central London ( Trafalgar Square , Piccadilly ) glad all Dennis are automatic So much easier compare to manual tippers in Wembley . Pain . Take manual is just a tool for work so u not limited on opportunities. | |||
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"I much prefer driving a manual car. My dad has an automatic so I've gotten well used to it and it's grand but I don't like how the car lags then gets a burst of speed or when overtaking you have less control. Just better if I say what, I say when, I say how the electric cars have got rid of this. No lag. No sudden jolts. Shit off a shovel. (and no loud over revving when you do it all)" Loud revving is half the fun | |||
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"I much prefer driving a manual car. My dad has an automatic so I've gotten well used to it and it's grand but I don't like how the car lags then gets a burst of speed or when overtaking you have less control. Just better if I say what, I say when, I say how the electric cars have got rid of this. No lag. No sudden jolts. Shit off a shovel. (and no loud over revving when you do it all) Loud revving is half the fun " I can do that in my semi automatic option . | |||
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"Automatic + electric. I do love a manual, as it allows me to relive my boy racer youth. But for ease (and now speed) I will stick with an auto. Especially when hitting traffic (hello m5/m6) Yeah, this would be the only thing I like the auto for, being off and on the clutch for miles in traffic is bad" Actually this has almost convinced me to an auto, I get awful knee cramp in traffic jams with a clutch | |||
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"My next car will be auto. I’ve resisted it so far, a bit like that final house move into a bungalow, but we all know it makes sense " We're moving to a bungalow (hopefully), age 36 | |||
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"I much prefer driving a manual car. My dad has an automatic so I've gotten well used to it and it's grand but I don't like how the car lags then gets a burst of speed or when overtaking you have less control. Just better if I say what, I say when, I say how the electric cars have got rid of this. No lag. No sudden jolts. Shit off a shovel. (and no loud over revving when you do it all) Loud revving is half the fun I can do that in my semi automatic option ." Is actually more fun cause is up n down only Like a WRC . Not in “ fork shape gears “ u can drop 2 gears in half second or less | |||
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"I much prefer driving a manual car. My dad has an automatic so I've gotten well used to it and it's grand but I don't like how the car lags then gets a burst of speed or when overtaking you have less control. Just better if I say what, I say when, I say how the electric cars have got rid of this. No lag. No sudden jolts. Shit off a shovel. (and no loud over revving when you do it all) Loud revving is half the fun " true. It's more when you pull off. I'm burning up boy racers and the cars so quiet, it's like I'm not trying. Must be getting old ! | |||
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"I much prefer driving a manual car. My dad has an automatic so I've gotten well used to it and it's grand but I don't like how the car lags then gets a burst of speed or when overtaking you have less control. Just better if I say what, I say when, I say how the electric cars have got rid of this. No lag. No sudden jolts. Shit off a shovel. (and no loud over revving when you do it all) Loud revving is half the fun true. It's more when you pull off. I'm burning up boy racers and the cars so quiet, it's like I'm not trying. Must be getting old !" Never too old show the nippers how it's done | |||
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"I much prefer driving a manual car. My dad has an automatic so I've gotten well used to it and it's grand but I don't like how the car lags then gets a burst of speed or when overtaking you have less control. Just better if I say what, I say when, I say how the electric cars have got rid of this. No lag. No sudden jolts. Shit off a shovel. (and no loud over revving when you do it all)" Ohhh, tbh haven't driven an electric yet. They are freakishly quiet, keep catching me unawares walking in carparks and such | |||
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"Is it fair to say,too, that whilst I'm sure electric cars, Tiptronic and DSG systems etc are all wonderful, the same qualities are unlikely to be found in the cheap Pug the OP mentioned?" Exactly, it's incomparable. Thank you | |||
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"I much prefer driving a manual car. My dad has an automatic so I've gotten well used to it and it's grand but I don't like how the car lags then gets a burst of speed or when overtaking you have less control. Just better if I say what, I say when, I say how the electric cars have got rid of this. No lag. No sudden jolts. Shit off a shovel. (and no loud over revving when you do it all) Loud revving is half the fun I can do that in my semi automatic option . Is actually more fun cause is up n down only Like a WRC . Not in “ fork shape gears “ u can drop 2 gears in half second or less " But a sadev sequential gearbox will run you about 10-20k and need rebuilding ever 2-3k miles one down side to sequential gearbox’s | |||
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" I parallel my manual all over the place, controlling the clutch with my middle finger only. It's really easy. " That's the point...you have a clutch so on a hill you can engage the clutch and control the speed with gravity (i.e. letting the car roll downhill) and use the brake to control your speed/descent. That's very hard to do when you don't have a clutch nor a "Neutral" position for semi-automatic mode. I couldn't work out a way that didn't involve giving it some beans from the engine without using fully-automatic mode which would require turning the engine off. This was an N-reg BMW 7 series I had use of for a week. It was the boss's "old" car (he had a brand-spanking-new W-reg) that I was given use of when my own car failed it's MOT. Nice to sit in (and be seen in)...a ballache to drive. | |||
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"Auto. Haven’t had a manual for years. Would not go back. As for not as fast you cannot buy a new manual ferrari!!!! " Yes you can EAG USA tuneing company will sell you a brand new one with a manual transmission but it’s dubble the mark up You basically go to them place a order thay will then sorce your car from farrari or other low miles ones that have been bought to sell on then they will swap out the gearbox and then but a tax stamp on it for dubble the price | |||
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"I’ve driven auto and manual - I prefer auto. It’s a much smoother and stress free drive. I wouldn’t go back to manual by choice but my current car has the option to switch to manual if I chose. Stick with it Miss D! You’ll get used to it " Thank you. I am hoping so, was going to sell it once it became surplus but thinking of keeping it, my Corsa is super cheap which will offset the cost of a 2nd car | |||
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"Auto. Haven’t had a manual for years. Would not go back. As for not as fast you cannot buy a new manual ferrari!!!! " I think you’ll find they all have the option of switching to the manual paddle shift mode. They have an auto box because most people who can afford to buy a new Ferrari don’t have the driving ability to use a manual in a high horse power car. | |||
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"Auto. Haven’t had a manual for years. Would not go back. As for not as fast you cannot buy a new manual ferrari!!!! Yes you can EAG USA tuneing company will sell you a brand new one with a manual transmission but it’s dubble the mark up You basically go to them place a order thay will then sorce your car from farrari or other low miles ones that have been bought to sell on then they will swap out the gearbox and then but a tax stamp on it for dubble the price " Not from the factory as a standard car. You could convert most cars but the point is ferrari don’t make them as they are not as fast and the whole point was that auto cars now are faster than a manual. | |||
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"Showing my ignorance here of automatics. Can you do a rolling start in an automatic in a pinch?" yes no yes Really just depends If it’s stock you will have a kick down lag but it will kick down at some point like in 300 to 400 milliseconds If it’s not stock and your running some 2-3-4 speed power drag transmission The kick down will be faster than any human is capable off | |||
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"Auto. Haven’t had a manual for years. Would not go back. As for not as fast you cannot buy a new manual ferrari!!!! I think you’ll find they all have the option of switching to the manual paddle shift mode. They have an auto box because most people who can afford to buy a new Ferrari don’t have the driving ability to use a manual in a high horse power car. " Oooooooft | |||
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"DSG, so automatic with paddles on the steering wheel to change gear if you want. You wont bother but the feeling you can satisfies the control. And no clutch to bother with." Same here but tend to use the gear selector as opposed to the paddles feels more "normal ". 7 speed with sport option | |||
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"Auto. Haven’t had a manual for years. Would not go back. As for not as fast you cannot buy a new manual ferrari!!!! Yes you can EAG USA tuneing company will sell you a brand new one with a manual transmission but it’s dubble the mark up You basically go to them place a order thay will then sorce your car from farrari or other low miles ones that have been bought to sell on then they will swap out the gearbox and then but a tax stamp on it for dubble the price Not from the factory as a standard car. You could convert most cars but the point is ferrari don’t make them as they are not as fast and the whole point was that auto cars now are faster than a manual. " Yes you can’t buy one directly from them but plenty off tuneing companies to get a brabus and stuff | |||
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"Small engined cars don't lend themselves well to automatic gearboxes (transmissions is fast & furious yank speak BTW). They don't have the torque or rev range to suit that type of box. Now before the pedants start piping up about 8 speed autos that preselect the gear above and below for you etc - small engined, cheap motors don't have that kind of box. Usually a three speed with overdrive and a low spec, low tech, cheap assed three speed at that. I've driven some cracking auto's and had the same car in both manual and auto a few times the 530D manual was a far better drive than the 535D auto ever was but the manual Aristo I had was beaten hands down by the auto version I had. Individual cars need judging in their own rights and I wouldn't go judging all automatics by a 206 unless you are going to use it as an example of about as shit as an auto box can be! " I'm pretty confident there's been no new car for sale for a good few years with a 3 speed auto. Not even sure the last time I saw a 4 speed auto for that matter. But agreed some cars are far better with autos and others with manual. | |||
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"I'm not driving at the moment but I've always driven manual when given the choice; I just don't have the same feeling of being in control in an automatic. Not that I'm a controlling personality type but I'd rather the tonne-and-a-half vehicle I'm driving did exactly what I wanted it to do at all times. By far the worst vehicles are "semi-automatics" or "clutchless manuals". Try parallel-parking one of those on a hill... I hear you. Luckily I won't be driving long distance in it, literally using it for work, not sure I'd want to drive it to Scotland.... I've gone from a Vauxhall Corsa CDTi to this 1.3 Pug, not sure I'd trust it long distance " What happened to the FABia? | |||
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"Showing my ignorance here of automatics. Can you do a rolling start in an automatic in a pinch? yes no yes Really just depends If it’s stock you will have a kick down lag but it will kick down at some point like in 300 to 400 milliseconds If it’s not stock and your running some 2-3-4 speed power drag transmission The kick down will be faster than any human is capable off " Thanks | |||
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"Automatic if you live in a city or drive mostly on the motorway. Manual if you enjoy driving and aren't an American." Alright Clarkson | |||
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"This is all a much ado about nothing ...just opt for the Automatic. " Nooooooooooo! It's boring! | |||
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"This is all a much ado about nothing ...just opt for the Automatic. Nooooooooooo! It's boring!" ° Shush, KC²! You just miss my gearstick. | |||
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"This is all a much ado about nothing ...just opt for the Automatic. Nooooooooooo! It's boring!" Is not boring . Is relaxing . And easy . Perfect for after a hard day work . Or for city door 2 door . Has semi automatic . If automatic is to slow for the needs I love it . | |||
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"Automatic Would never go back to a manual. Pointless " In GT 7 my racing setting is in manual . There’s some top gear super fast prototypes on automatic . Is super fast but I don’t enjoy the racing . But yeah . In real life is no much point . Not in a 20 to 70 mph track ^^ | |||
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"This is all a much ado about nothing ...just opt for the Automatic. Nooooooooooo! It's boring! ° Shush, KC²! You just miss my gearstick." I have a very special gearstick and I like it a lot! | |||
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"This is all a much ado about nothing ...just opt for the Automatic. Nooooooooooo! It's boring! ° Shush, KC²! You just miss my gearstick. I have a very special gearstick and I like it a lot!" ° Is his name Manuel? | |||
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"This is all a much ado about nothing ...just opt for the Automatic. Nooooooooooo! It's boring! ° Shush, KC²! You just miss my gearstick. I have a very special gearstick and I like it a lot! ° Is his name Manuel?" Manual, he spells it. I control him with my middle finger | |||
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"What I found today was that I think cars will lose the mirrors . Today on M1 I noticed that the big HGV1 didn’t had them big mirrors . Had only little “ ears “ sticking out with a camera. Wich will give you a much faster control as you will have the 3 views only in 1 Loved The idea of the mirrors image in dash board in your face as you look straight . I believe cars will lose the mirrors . With the love they have for more technology and us with more crap to go wrong ? I just can see it . " I've driven a few vehicles with camera mirror systems. It's definitely the in thing, and quitw common on buses as well as HGVs. I can see the advantages - less wind resistance and less large mirrors to damage on HGVs and coaches, plus reduced number of mirror-versus-street furniture accidents for buses in cities. But... It brings your focus to a point inside the vehicle rather than outside, so you lose some of what you'd see in your peripheral vision when checking a mirror, and you lose depth perception in a monitor. Some do have lines superimpised the same as reversing cameras, which helps but does feel a bit like a solution to a problem that wasn't there until technology made it one, if that makes sense. There's also the loss of the fringe benefit that in a mirror, you can often see the driver (of a large vehicle) and better gauge whether he's seen you alongside/behind. Back to the original question though, I prefer a manual car. Give me an automatic gearbox on a bus or coach any day. But for a car, all the auto boxes I've driven have seemed less good than I can achieve with my left foot. Manoeuvring on a hill, for example, where they are often a bit 'nothing...nothing...more revs...nothing...more revs...off we suddenly go' I've done so many miles in a manual though that it's automatic (pun intended) and I don't give the action of changing gear any more thought than putting one foot in front of the other to walk. | |||
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"What I found today was that I think cars will lose the mirrors . Today on M1 I noticed that the big HGV1 didn’t had them big mirrors . Had only little “ ears “ sticking out with a camera. Wich will give you a much faster control as you will have the 3 views only in 1 Loved The idea of the mirrors image in dash board in your face as you look straight . I believe cars will lose the mirrors . With the love they have for more technology and us with more crap to go wrong ? I just can see it . I've driven a few vehicles with camera mirror systems. It's definitely the in thing, and quitw common on buses as well as HGVs. I can see the advantages - less wind resistance and less large mirrors to damage on HGVs and coaches, plus reduced number of mirror-versus-street furniture accidents for buses in cities. But... It brings your focus to a point inside the vehicle rather than outside, so you lose some of what you'd see in your peripheral vision when checking a mirror, and you lose depth perception in a monitor. Some do have lines superimpised the same as reversing cameras, which helps but does feel a bit like a solution to a problem that wasn't there until technology made it one, if that makes sense. There's also the loss of the fringe benefit that in a mirror, you can often see the driver (of a large vehicle) and better gauge whether he's seen you alongside/behind. Back to the original question though, I prefer a manual car. Give me an automatic gearbox on a bus or coach any day. But for a car, all the auto boxes I've driven have seemed less good than I can achieve with my left foot. Manoeuvring on a hill, for example, where they are often a bit 'nothing...nothing...more revs...nothing...more revs...off we suddenly go' I've done so many miles in a manual though that it's automatic (pun intended) and I don't give the action of changing gear any more thought than putting one foot in front of the other to walk." Lose depth is very bad … Yes in town mirrors is an head hacke . But I loved the big HGV2 mirrors . Is so much easier then drive a car . Then back to my Yaris to go back home as just like : WTF ? Couldn’t see anything ^^ Stupid mirror not bigger then the bottom of a bottle of beer | |||
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"Automatic. I wouldn’t go back to manual. This is what I keep hearing x" Newer automatics | |||
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"So, my car is out of action and it's going to take a while to fix, in the meantime I have bought a snotter of a Peugeot 206 cheap, just to use temporary Pros; It's clean Mileage is 48k Cons It's automatic transmission. I've never driven an automatic Car and not overly impressed but in my present situation beggars can't be choosers.... So, my dear Fabbers, tell me; what so you drive? And what's your take on autos?? " Auto all the way for me, modern traffic is so stop start auto is just nicer and smoother even more so when you have a hybrid, I am biased as im an instructor who teaches auto | |||
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"I'm not driving at the moment but I've always driven manual when given the choice; I just don't have the same feeling of being in control in an automatic. Not that I'm a controlling personality type but I'd rather the tonne-and-a-half vehicle I'm driving did exactly what I wanted it to do at all times. By far the worst vehicles are "semi-automatics" or "clutchless manuals". Try parallel-parking one of those on a hill... I hear you. Luckily I won't be driving long distance in it, literally using it for work, not sure I'd want to drive it to Scotland.... I've gone from a Vauxhall Corsa CDTi to this 1.3 Pug, not sure I'd trust it long distance What happened to the FABia? " Went to the great big scrapyard over the rainbow | |||
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"So, my car is out of action and it's going to take a while to fix, in the meantime I have bought a snotter of a Peugeot 206 cheap, just to use temporary Pros; It's clean Mileage is 48k Cons It's automatic transmission. I've never driven an automatic Car and not overly impressed but in my present situation beggars can't be choosers.... So, my dear Fabbers, tell me; what so you drive? And what's your take on autos?? " they are money pits I bought a vauxhall insignia paid £3000 for it it developed a DPF problem so took it to garage they said they'd take DPF filter out of exhaust clean it put it back in I could have car back at end of day so took day off work £200 went back to collect car nothing done so they said they would do it that evening get it back after 12 next day another day off work £200 went back about 4pm to collect car they said another part needed to be replaced so £120 for the part so the garage charged me £600 and the car was exactly the same as when I took it in, now I googled the chemical cleaner they use to clean filter it's a foam cleaner so you have to replace oil and oil filter which I had already done cost me £46 but they squurted the chemical in through the llamba sensor, so didn't take it out of exhaust and didn't replace oil or filter so the next day driving down road car stalls over heating, phoned garage we'll get our tow truck to tow vehicle to garage couldn't do it that night we'll get it first thing in morning so I arrive at car 8am tow truck turns up at 1pm tows car back to garage, water pump snapped off and snapped timing belt car is scrap, do I have any recourse? | |||
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"So, my car is out of action and it's going to take a while to fix, in the meantime I have bought a snotter of a Peugeot 206 cheap, just to use temporary Pros; It's clean Mileage is 48k Cons It's automatic transmission. I've never driven an automatic Car and not overly impressed but in my present situation beggars can't be choosers.... So, my dear Fabbers, tell me; what so you drive? And what's your take on autos?? they are money pits I bought a vauxhall insignia paid £3000 for it it developed a DPF problem so took it to garage they said they'd take DPF filter out of exhaust clean it put it back in I could have car back at end of day so took day off work £200 went back to collect car nothing done so they said they would do it that evening get it back after 12 next day another day off work £200 went back about 4pm to collect car they said another part needed to be replaced so £120 for the part so the garage charged me £600 and the car was exactly the same as when I took it in, now I googled the chemical cleaner they use to clean filter it's a foam cleaner so you have to replace oil and oil filter which I had already done cost me £46 but they squurted the chemical in through the llamba sensor, so didn't take it out of exhaust and didn't replace oil or filter so the next day driving down road car stalls over heating, phoned garage we'll get our tow truck to tow vehicle to garage couldn't do it that night we'll get it first thing in morning so I arrive at car 8am tow truck turns up at 1pm tows car back to garage, water pump snapped off and snapped timing belt car is scrap, do I have any recourse? " What has any of that got to do with an auto box. ? Incidentally, the garage you are using sound like a bunch of cowboys. | |||
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"So, my car is out of action and it's going to take a while to fix, in the meantime I have bought a snotter of a Peugeot 206 cheap, just to use temporary Pros; It's clean Mileage is 48k Cons It's automatic transmission. I've never driven an automatic Car and not overly impressed but in my present situation beggars can't be choosers.... So, my dear Fabbers, tell me; what so you drive? And what's your take on autos?? they are money pits I bought a vauxhall insignia paid £3000 for it it developed a DPF problem so took it to garage they said they'd take DPF filter out of exhaust clean it put it back in I could have car back at end of day so took day off work £200 went back to collect car nothing done so they said they would do it that evening get it back after 12 next day another day off work £200 went back about 4pm to collect car they said another part needed to be replaced so £120 for the part so the garage charged me £600 and the car was exactly the same as when I took it in, now I googled the chemical cleaner they use to clean filter it's a foam cleaner so you have to replace oil and oil filter which I had already done cost me £46 but they squurted the chemical in through the llamba sensor, so didn't take it out of exhaust and didn't replace oil or filter so the next day driving down road car stalls over heating, phoned garage we'll get our tow truck to tow vehicle to garage couldn't do it that night we'll get it first thing in morning so I arrive at car 8am tow truck turns up at 1pm tows car back to garage, water pump snapped off and snapped timing belt car is scrap, do I have any recourse? " Why on earth did you have it towed back there?? | |||
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"What has any of that got to do with an auto box. ? Incidentally, the garage you are using sound like a bunch of cowboys. " What he said. Lots of diesel problems arise from buying the wrong car for the purpose ie diesels in cities not on long journeys. | |||
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"As a former racing driver and track instructor, I always advocated a manual box; my own cars being manual. That was until I was instructing with a paddle shift gearbox, WOW. The control, speed and cornering ability was mind blowing. For non track driving and lazy days the system returns to a normal auto box. Auto boxes are now so clever and will learn your driving style. Best gearbox by far, Porsche PDK twin clutch." Unless I have completely got the wrong end of the stick, a paddle shift isn’t actually an ‘automatic ‘ is it. You are still determining when the change happens and to which gear. It’s just clutchless. | |||
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" I get autos if hiring (holiday etc) but it's really quite boring....." I hired a Volvo XC40 when I was in Holland earlier this year. Absolutely lovely car, and an automatic, really got in to driving it, until negotiating roundabouts, which was fucking awful, because there was no gearstick…… Manual gearbox only for me thanks | |||
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"both drive Autos and would never go back to a manual, except our bikes. Problem with modern manuals is they have dual mass flywheel which are unreliable and often when the clutch goes the flywheel neds replacing and around £500 for one most cars would be a right off Andy ex mechanic" Better 'maybe' £500 on a dual mass and clutch kit, than 'maybe' £8k on a new auto gearbox if they go wrong. Sid, still in the motor trade | |||
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"I'm so used to manual, that if I ever drive an auto I have to literally sit on my left foot to stop me doing an emergency stop when muscle memory makes he go for the invisible clutch." I hear you! Thank fuck it’s not just me who has this problem. I’m manual all the way. I like using my hands and I like being in control. | |||
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"both drive Autos and would never go back to a manual, except our bikes. Problem with modern manuals is they have dual mass flywheel which are unreliable and often when the clutch goes the flywheel neds replacing and around £500 for one most cars would be a right off Andy ex mechanic Better 'maybe' £500 on a dual mass and clutch kit, than 'maybe' £8k on a new auto gearbox if they go wrong. Sid, still in the motor trade " Modern autos are very reliable os it's IF they go wrong rather than when a dual mass fails, my Bclass has 14000 on the clock and only ever had regular oil changes, Marie's C max the dual mass failed at 35000 | |||
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"I drive a manual with a hand operated clutch, because I like changing gear. I get autos if hiring (holiday etc) but it's really quite boring..... This is my fear, finding it too boring, I love driving and don't want the fun taking out of it x" I would defy you to say my auto is not fun | |||
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"So, my car is out of action and it's going to take a while to fix, in the meantime I have bought a snotter of a Peugeot 206 cheap, just to use temporary Pros; It's clean Mileage is 48k Cons It's automatic transmission. I've never driven an automatic Car and not overly impressed but in my present situation beggars can't be choosers.... So, my dear Fabbers, tell me; what so you drive? And what's your take on autos?? they are money pits I bought a vauxhall insignia paid £3000 for it it developed a DPF problem so took it to garage they said they'd take DPF filter out of exhaust clean it put it back in I could have car back at end of day so took day off work £200 went back to collect car nothing done so they said they would do it that evening get it back after 12 next day another day off work £200 went back about 4pm to collect car they said another part needed to be replaced so £120 for the part so the garage charged me £600 and the car was exactly the same as when I took it in, now I googled the chemical cleaner they use to clean filter it's a foam cleaner so you have to replace oil and oil filter which I had already done cost me £46 but they squurted the chemical in through the llamba sensor, so didn't take it out of exhaust and didn't replace oil or filter so the next day driving down road car stalls over heating, phoned garage we'll get our tow truck to tow vehicle to garage couldn't do it that night we'll get it first thing in morning so I arrive at car 8am tow truck turns up at 1pm tows car back to garage, water pump snapped off and snapped timing belt car is scrap, do I have any recourse? Why on earth did you have it towed back there?? " well because I had paid them £600 so I'm buggered either way lost £4000 on a scrap car lol | |||
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"So, my car is out of action and it's going to take a while to fix, in the meantime I have bought a snotter of a Peugeot 206 cheap, just to use temporary Pros; It's clean Mileage is 48k Cons It's automatic transmission. I've never driven an automatic Car and not overly impressed but in my present situation beggars can't be choosers.... So, my dear Fabbers, tell me; what so you drive? And what's your take on autos?? they are money pits I bought a vauxhall insignia paid £3000 for it it developed a DPF problem so took it to garage they said they'd take DPF filter out of exhaust clean it put it back in I could have car back at end of day so took day off work £200 went back to collect car nothing done so they said they would do it that evening get it back after 12 next day another day off work £200 went back about 4pm to collect car they said another part needed to be replaced so £120 for the part so the garage charged me £600 and the car was exactly the same as when I took it in, now I googled the chemical cleaner they use to clean filter it's a foam cleaner so you have to replace oil and oil filter which I had already done cost me £46 but they squurted the chemical in through the llamba sensor, so didn't take it out of exhaust and didn't replace oil or filter so the next day driving down road car stalls over heating, phoned garage we'll get our tow truck to tow vehicle to garage couldn't do it that night we'll get it first thing in morning so I arrive at car 8am tow truck turns up at 1pm tows car back to garage, water pump snapped off and snapped timing belt car is scrap, do I have any recourse? Why on earth did you have it towed back there?? well because I had paid them £600 so I'm buggered either way lost £4000 on a scrap car lol " So you bought a crap car but what does any of that have to do with manual v auto? | |||
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"As a former racing driver and track instructor, I always advocated a manual box; my own cars being manual. That was until I was instructing with a paddle shift gearbox, WOW. The control, speed and cornering ability was mind blowing. For non track driving and lazy days the system returns to a normal auto box. Auto boxes are now so clever and will learn your driving style. Best gearbox by far, Porsche PDK twin clutch. Unless I have completely got the wrong end of the stick, a paddle shift isn’t actually an ‘automatic ‘ is it. You are still determining when the change happens and to which gear. It’s just clutchless. " Paddle shifts are just a means to select the gears manually rather than letting the gearbox do its own thing. Automatics come in two forms, traditional autos with torque converters and twin clutch boxes so definitely not clutchless. Both will operate in fully auto mode but can allow you to select the gears for yourself, some will allow you to bounce off the rev limiter others will change up at the red line even when in 'manual' mode. | |||
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"Prefer manual rwd but last ones were automatic (rwd) 635d was hard to find a decent one manual in this country." I imagine it was as it wasn't a factory option on any of the *35d's - the M57 6 speed was determined by BMW to be unable to handle the torque put out on the twin turbo variants. Now that neeky fast | |||
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