FabSwingers.com forum: Incompetence

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

What jobs/profession allow you to get away with being utterly incompetent with very little personal consequence?

I'll get the most obvious one out that way first and say any politician/government role,and I'll also add banker and tabloid journalist to the list.

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By *RANDMRSJAECouple
over a year ago

chester

Anything that is done offshore at the massive bank I work for

No accountability, ever!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Game’s developers

Let’s hit a list

Cyberpunk

Battlefield 2047

New saints row

Just to name a couple off the top off my head

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By *ottom charlieMan
over a year ago

washington

"What jobs/profession allow you to get away with being utterly incompetent with very little personal consequence?

I'll get the most obvious one out that way first and say any politician/government role,and I'll also add banker and tabloid journalist to the list.

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being a politician we have 3 parties which prove it

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Senior management in many companies.

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By *penbicoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

Most jobs, if you get high enough up the ladder.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Teachers - a minority of course but there are some truly awful ones who clearly hate children and hate the job and it’s near impossible to get rid of them if they just turn up.

I’m picking on them because they have such an important responsibility and good ones can be such a positive impact children's lives , every child deserves great teachers.

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By *aomilatteCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

Football Manager. Get the sack, get 2 Million plus compensation, get another job, get the sack.....

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By *avid 50Man
over a year ago

kendal

Local rural police . Farmers are frequently burgled - quad bikes , tractors - livestock -pressure washers and tools they don’t even bother to come out and check our video footage tyre prints or finger prints they just send out a crime ref number to claim off our insurance

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Every profession has members who are utterly incompetent. Unfortunately the bodies that govern them tend to close ranks to protect them until it's impossible to do so any further.

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By *agerMorganMan
over a year ago

Canvey Island

Developer.

How are there so many developers out there who keep making serious errors in their code & then say “not my problem” when it gets whacked.

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By *ilfCrumpet9Man
over a year ago

Wirral

"Teachers - a minority of course but there are some truly awful ones who clearly hate children and hate the job and it’s near impossible to get rid of them if they just turn up.

I’m picking on them because they have such an important responsibility and good ones can be such a positive impact children's lives , every child deserves great teachers. "

So true, I am an ex teacher and a few people I worked with should have really been sacked.

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By *ocothumpaMan
over a year ago

quite close to you

Some senior levels of the public sector…you’d be surprised how some people are promoted just through standing in the right spot and how many very talented people who could really make a massive difference to how the public is catered (health, social care and welfare) CANNOT be replaced soo will not get promoted.

Soo many senior people haven’t got a clue but look the part

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By *parkle1974Woman
over a year ago

Leeds

The care sector x

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By *ilfCrumpet9Man
over a year ago

Wirral

Where I work upper management totally incompetent. What makes it worse is the fact that they are promoting youngsters to managers and they have no skills to actually deal with people or the business. They are not proactive and not problem solvers.

This is my opinion without being offensive to any young person. Very few actually carry the job well but most only there to get a good salary.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

In every organisation I ever worked for incompetent people were being protected. Partly because the people immediately in charge of them were afraid to begin the process that would get rid of them. This was because they are under pressure to keep their superiors happy and that includes pretending that everyone who works for them is good.

The number of educators who are not only incompetent but downright dangerous is staggering

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By *issmorganWoman
over a year ago

Calderdale innit

"Senior management in many companies.

This.Often in healthcare the field I work in,I regularly see people who get promoted to a high level and absolutely have no idea what they're doing in the role.i feel like they sometimes don't know what else to do with some staff who aren't that good at hands on clinical stuff ,so promote them to a role that's less so ,but not always needed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What jobs/profession allow you to get away with being utterly incompetent with very little personal consequence?

I'll get the most obvious one out that way first and say any politician/government role,and I'll also add banker and tabloid journalist to the list.

I've got to include football managers in here. You can be utterly rubbish in a job, get an amazing payout when you're sacked, and within weeks you are usually hired by another club of a similar level/wage

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By *arkandlovelyWoman
over a year ago

South Derbyshire

Prepared to be lynched for criticising the NHS but it's full of people who don't know or don't care what they're doing. I've had one experience after another where I've been patronised, dismissed, ignored or given really bad advice. The difference when you see a private practitioner is incredible.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Weather forecaster

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Public Sector middle management upwards..

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
over a year ago

Reading

"Prepared to be lynched for criticising the NHS but it's full of people who don't know or don't care what they're doing. I've had one experience after another where I've been patronised, dismissed, ignored or given really bad advice. The difference when you see a private practitioner is incredible."

You ARE a woman after all. You shouldn't be worrying your pretty little head about complex matters like your own health. Just nod and smile, nod and smile. There's a good girl.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

You ARE a woman after all. You shouldn't be worrying your pretty little head about complex matters like your own health. Just nod and smile, nod and smile. There's a good girl. "

You should try going to the NHS for mental health problems as an adult male,they just about manage not to laugh in your face before telling you there's nothing wrong with you

going private was the best thing I ever did,horrendously expensive but got me a diagnosis and the treatment I need

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

The people in our SMT

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By *uicy 2020Woman
over a year ago

London

"You should try going to the NHS for mental health problems as an adult male,they just about manage not to laugh in your face before telling you there's nothing wrong with you

going private was the best thing I ever did,horrendously expensive but got me a diagnosis and the treatment I need"

Some of the people in mental health care was my 1st thought too when i saw this thread. Although maybe not so much incompetence, just downright not being in the right job for them. How can you expect to care for people in MH crises when you have zero empathy or listening skills. Ive had not just unhelpful but downright dangerous 'help', and so have friends. Why would you go into any caring profession when you dont care about people, and then on top to be allowed to stay there? X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The people in our SMT

Ours too!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Every profession has members who are utterly incompetent. Unfortunately the bodies that govern them tend to close ranks to protect them until it's impossible to do so any further. "

Hi all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mine

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By *ryandseeMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire

Surely has nothing to do with a profession but an individual. Everyone will have different experiences. Never take reviews at face value.

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By *nliveneTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby

Managers/team leaders

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By *ulfilthmentMan
over a year ago

Just around the corner

"Most jobs, if you get high enough up the ladder."

But since we all clearly believe we’re not incompetent, are ‘senior’ managers somehow reprogrammed on promotion?

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By *ulfilthmentMan
over a year ago

Just around the corner

Presumably you chose a private practitioner who doesn’t also work for the NHS. Many do, and often the only real difference for your money is the more generous consultation time it buys.

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By *arkandlovelyWoman
over a year ago

South Derbyshire

Presumably you chose a private practitioner who doesn’t also work for the NHS. Many do, and often the only real difference for your money is the more generous consultation time it buys."

I don't know whether he did NHS work or not, but the consultation was much quicker because he actually listened to my problem and prioritised my wishes instead of spending the time telling me I was wrong and refusing everything I asked for.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

I’m not sure it’s down to a profession/job as such. Incompetent people exist in all sort of roles and if they are savvy and incompetent then they’re onto a winner because they manage to go on undetected

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Most jobs, if you get high enough up the ladder.

But since we all clearly believe we’re not incompetent, are ‘senior’ managers somehow reprogrammed on promotion?"

No, they just put their personal advancement, and compliance with unrealistic policies, before their responsibility to get the job done properly.

Those who actually care about the job being done properly, i.e. effectively, rarely progress beyond the practitioner/lower-middle management stage. Certainly in the public sector where most of my experience is.

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By *arrapsMan
over a year ago

port talbot

The Welsh assembly government, they couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery

And the chief cock womble, drakeford, is possibly the worst politician ever elected

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Try Tena pants

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By *MisschiefxTV/TS
over a year ago

London

"What jobs/profession allow you to get away with being utterly incompetent with very little personal consequence?

I'll get the most obvious one out that way first and say any politician/government role,and I'll also add banker and tabloid journalist to the list.

Literally every single profession.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"What jobs/profession allow you to get away with being utterly incompetent with very little personal consequence?

I'll get the most obvious one out that way first and say any politician/government role,and I'll also add banker and tabloid journalist to the list.

Literally every single profession."

An incompetent pilot would soon suffer personal consequence

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By *tylebender03Man
over a year ago

Manchester

Football referee

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

President of Russia

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Game’s developers

Let’s hit a list

Cyberpunk

Battlefield 2047

New saints row

Just to name a couple off the top off my head "

Ha ha . Ghost of Tsushima.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What jobs/profession allow you to get away with being utterly incompetent with very little personal consequence?

I'll get the most obvious one out that way first and say any politician/government role,and I'll also add banker and tabloid journalist to the list.

Police.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Most jobs, if you get high enough up the ladder."

Ah don’t . I’m a painter . Trust me , u really not good idea miss a bit .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"President of Russia

Close thread

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"President of Russia

Close thread

PM of UK?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Site labourer

Council street sweeper .

customer service on 3

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

POLICE

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"POLICE"

My words exactly!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"POLICE"

I was going to say Milwaukee Police in 1991 but just police will do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What jobs/profession allow you to get away with being utterly incompetent with very little personal consequence?

I'll get the most obvious one out that way first and say any politician/government role,and I'll also add banker and tabloid journalist to the list.

National politicians can be kicked out of an 80k job every four or five years, hardly no consequence. Banking is a ruthless profession, no one survives long unless they perform. The media is similar.

The most protected jobs are in the public services where it's incredibly hard to be sacked and promotion is often on personal rather than professional grounds. My experience is that many excellent people quit public sector early due to the incompetence they have to work with.

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field

BBC execs

My mate worked for them for several years and had several instances where someone got a job as daddy had friends in the organisation- they didn't have a clue what they were doing and just caused havoc on set, but because of the old boys network, they didn't get sacked, they got promoted elsewhere to fuck up another section...and so on...always blaming the lower staff and crew for the problem

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pretty much anyone that works for the NHS.

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple
over a year ago

Leeds

The police, anyone who works on new build house’s, the nhs, politicians and I’m sure there’s many more.

The mr.

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By *_MariusMan
over a year ago

Currently Faraway

"Every profession has members who are utterly incompetent. Unfortunately the bodies that govern them tend to close ranks to protect them until it's impossible to do so any further. "

I don’t know if I would call my immediate superior/boss incompetent at his field as I would have no clue (he’s an engineer) but it is painfully obvious to a few people at work that he’s disorganised, hopeless at communicating what he wants, idiotically sarcastic (he makes comments about my field of work which is technical translation and he’s clueless about it) and there doesn’t seem to be anybody who could keep him in check….

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By *alking HeadMan
over a year ago

Bolton

Most of our mid managers have only got there because they have put the years in. A lot never learned anything in those years and are just treading water until they retire. They will not allow changes because "this is the way we've always done things". The senior management come and go, staying for between 5 and 8 years. They trust the "knowledge" of the mid management, but know nothing of the production processes and are in effect being lied to.

Anyone that comes in from outside with any knowledge who wants to get things improved is just ground down. You can only bang your head against a brick wall so many times.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Teachers - a minority of course but there are some truly awful ones who clearly hate children and hate the job and it’s near impossible to get rid of them if they just turn up.

I’m picking on them because they have such an important responsibility and good ones can be such a positive impact children's lives , every child deserves great teachers. "

Add early years to that! I've seen too much incompetence over the years I could write a book. Despite systems in place to prevent it the sector is on it's knees with staff shortages there is no time and no staff to replace and when we do address it we have people blame their mental health which again puts constraints on how we deal with them.

But the way Truss is going there will not be an early years before long

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Security

Most of the managers incompetent

Could lead to dangerous consequences

For the general public and the workers

Unfortunately these day’s experience and know how count for nothing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Damn them all to heck

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

Working for many large companies. They all seem to promote using the Peter Principle.

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By *ulfilthmentMan
over a year ago

Just around the corner

"I don't know whether he did NHS work or not, but the consultation was much quicker because he actually listened to my problem and prioritised my wishes instead of spending the time telling me I was wrong and refusing everything I asked for."

It’s not a doctor’s job (or any other medical practitioner’s) to simply agree with their patients and prescribe. Sometimes we are wrong.

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By *ulfilthmentMan
over a year ago

Just around the corner

"My experience is that many excellent people quit public sector early due to the incompetence they have to work with."

What do they do when they discover that most of the private sector is no different?

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By *idnight RamblerMan
over a year ago

Pershore

I thought this was going to be a Tory Party thread.

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By *2000ManMan
over a year ago

Worthing

I.T. projects managed by non-technical people. It was down to the technical people to pick up the slack or make up for lack of planning. Reason I left office work.

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