FabSwingers.com forum: Tv license

By *asycouple1971 OP Couple
over a year ago

midlands

Does anyone watch tv without a tv license?

My kid and friends at Uni has been sent a letter reminding them to get a license if they watch "live" tv.

Is this a scare tactic to get them to buy one?

They dont have a tv only a monitor but can pick up tv from amazon firestick.

Told them if they ask just say you watch Netflix and they cannot enter your property without a court warrant so dont let them in.

Has anyone had the tv license people knock on their doors and what was the outcome?

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By *iggy5Man
over a year ago

Northamptonshire

"Does anyone watch tv without a tv license?

My kid and friends at Uni has been sent a letter reminding them to get a license if they watch "live" tv.

Is this a scare tactic to get them to buy one?

They dont have a tv only a monitor but can pick up tv from amazon firestick.

Told them if they ask just say you watch Netflix and they cannot enter your property without a court warrant so dont let them in.

Has anyone had the tv license people knock on their doors and what was the outcome?

At Uni, this is definitely a scare tactic. Whether student accommodation or renting etc. In my experience the uni themselves sent out a letter and no one ever checked, visited or got in touch. Bit of a scam really.

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By *r SteelhammerMan
over a year ago

belfast

I get them all the time and I don't even have an ariel haha

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By *imi_RougeWoman
over a year ago

Portsmouth

Not paid it in years, can't remember the last time they knocked the door... Pre COVID for sure, even then I just shut it in their face.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wouldn’t suspect anyone is going to say in a open public forum that they are brake the law

But I am in full agreement off doing away with tv licence

We pay for bbc not to have ads

Such outdated bbc should just run ads

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By *onsey83Couple
over a year ago

Glasgow

Yes we did, the guy asked did we watch live tv etc told him no, he ask if he could come in to check. I(mrs) said no you don’t have a warrant he said he didn’t need one. I told him yes you do and told him to come back when he has one. Never had anyone back at the door. T

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

I pay for one, but as each year goes by, I think I'm more and more silly for doing so. I mostly watch old stuff on Youtube

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By *romagefraisWoman
over a year ago

Sunderland

You can declare you don't need one on the website and that stops them sending letters and visiting.

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By *heVonMatterhornsCouple
over a year ago

Lincoln

"You can declare you don't need one on the website and that stops them sending letters and visiting."

This

I think the declaration lasts two years but you won't get any contact in that time.

LvM

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I got rid of my sky package and my TV aerial. I just use Netflix and other streaming sites and I may or may not have access to a firestick with other apps.

I refuse to pay to watch BBC.

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By *itty9899Man
over a year ago

Craggy Island

I wouldn't have one if I didn't have to watch the football. There ain't much live TV I watch anymore.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You can declare you don't need one on the website and that stops them sending letters and visiting.

This

I think the declaration lasts two years but you won't get any contact in that time.

LvM"

I did this after paying for years and them screwing up my DD a few times and sending shitty letters. Not heard a peep since

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By *ilverSwordMan
over a year ago

Belfast-ish

They say you need a TV licence to watch YouTube not just TV...

So technically that's everyone with a smart phone right?

I'll never pay a TV licence lol my TV is my pc monitor they can do one. If I needed the licence to watch the TV why could I get said TV without a licence huh ya silly bastards it's not coming home to be an expensive paper weight

All the letters they send goes straight to the recycling lol

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By *icknmix500Man
over a year ago

South Gloucestershire

Just had two very threatening letters from the TV licensing people it seems I've committed the most heinous crime by not renewing my tv license in time

Unbelievable !

A draconian and outrageous Tax just to keep the Pedophiles happy and rich at the BBC !

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By *ichaelangelaCouple
over a year ago

notts

The amount of letters they have posted to me for no licence over the last 3 years would have cost them less to GIVE me a free licence

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I have 1, as the funding model is simple. Albeit, the government has cut income to the BBC. I'd welcome less well off people being able to pay less.

The private company that chases those without them, are scum, with atrocious tactics. BBC and Channel 4 are great for the UK.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone watch tv without a tv license?

My kid and friends at Uni has been sent a letter reminding them to get a license if they watch "live" tv.

Is this a scare tactic to get them to buy one?

Yes.

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
over a year ago

Reading

You can send them a declaration that you don't watch live TV and the letters stop. These days you can have the means to watch live TV.

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By *..ranger5891Man
over a year ago

London

"You can send them a declaration that you don't watch live TV and the letters stop. These days you can have the means to watch live TV."

Great profile pic x

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

Yes have allways paid it as watch live TV x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No TV license as I only watch Netflix and sometimes stv x

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

If you don't watch live TV as its being broadcast you don't need a license. Cancelled mine a couple of years ago and now they only send me a reminder every two years to ask if I need one yet

The answer is no!

The BBCs quality has plummeted and I only watch Netflix and YouTube now. Which you don't need a license for

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don’t watch tv at all

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

"They say you need a TV licence to watch YouTube not just TV...

So technically that's everyone with a smart phone right?

All the letters they send goes straight to the recycling lol"

They say all kinds of things to trick people into buying one. You need one if you’re device is configured and able to receive live TV programs using public infra , even if you never watch them, it’s not really bbc specific. But you also need one for iPlayer because that software is purposely configured that way

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By *iss E99TV/TS
over a year ago

Near Taunton Somerset

I get those letters as well.

I phoned up an stated I didn’t need a tv license, they send a link to do this on their website.

Be aware of the wording in the letter though, you’re meant to have a tv license if you watch or record live tv from any channel or download / watch BBC programs on iPlayer.

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish

Always pay mine despite only watching my TV for about 4 hrs per week.

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By *lecom1Couple
over a year ago

Stornoway

Ditched our tv many years ago. Still get shit letters despite my wife being over 75 and we're on pension credit. Never watch the BBC crap but do enjoy the broadcasts from Japanese TV on the desktop.

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
over a year ago

Reading

"They say you need a TV licence to watch YouTube not just TV...

So technically that's everyone with a smart phone right?

All the letters they send goes straight to the recycling lol

No even that has changed. You can't watch anything on iplayer even catch up. But you can own a TV that's capable of receiving live TV you just can't watch live TV on it. You can listen to any bbc radio programs though either live or podcast without a license though. I researched this quite a bit before I gave up my license.

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By *ryan...Man
over a year ago

1950's Original

I occasionally watch my neighbours live through binoculars having sex ..

One of them has a BBC...do I need a licence...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who needs tv when you got fab. Haha!

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Ditched our tv many years ago. Still get shit letters despite my wife being over 75 and we're on pension credit. Never watch the BBC crap but do enjoy the broadcasts from Japanese TV on the desktop."

Just FYI there's no free license for older people anymore.

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By *achel SmythTV/TS
over a year ago

Farnborough

I’m worried now

I’ve been a TV for years and nobody told me I needed a licence xxx

R xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't have a TV licence. I have declared I don't need one.

Nobody in my house watches live TV. So no law breaking is occurring

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By *arkandlovelyWoman
over a year ago

South Derbyshire

I don't pay. I've never had one knock on my door. If they did I'd tell them to bollocks and shut the door. Easy.

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By *ryan...Man
over a year ago

1950's Original

"Ditched our tv many years ago. Still get shit letters despite my wife being over 75 and we're on pension credit. Never watch the BBC crap but do enjoy the broadcasts from Japanese TV on the desktop.

Just FYI there's no free license for older people anymore. "

Yes there is. Pensioners on pension credit( means tested) get licence free after 75..Pensioners don't

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone watch tv without a tv license?

My kid and friends at Uni has been sent a letter reminding them to get a license if they watch "live" tv.

Is this a scare tactic to get them to buy one?

They dont have a tv only a monitor but can pick up tv from amazon firestick.

Told them if they ask just say you watch Netflix and they cannot enter your property without a court warrant so dont let them in.

Has anyone had the tv license people knock on their doors and what was the outcome?

I got rid of the TV license last Feb, but I also got ride of the TV view box, I don’t have a signal in my house so no live TV. I watch Netflix & YouTube.

Universities don’t hold a license that covers every one who has a TV or a device that can pick up streaming, so they are responsible for their own license. If they live in student accommodation & flat share then they should all pay a portion of the license fee.

If they watch live shows on monitors or hand held devices then they still need a license. There are very few apps that you don’t need a license for, like Netflix, YouTube but you cannot watch any live streaming on YouTube only prerecorded. You can’t watch Prime or Now TV without a license as they shoe series that add new episodes weekly.

If you encourage people to just say they’re watching Netflix, then you & they are breaking the law. Unless the house address is on the TV Licensing database as being listed as not needing a license then they will be monitored & visited and they could be charged.

The only people who can get a court warrant is the police & those who work for the courts - ie Bailiffs (not Scotland)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone watch tv without a tv license?

My kid and friends at Uni has been sent a letter reminding them to get a license if they watch "live" tv.

Is this a scare tactic to get them to buy one?

They dont have a tv only a monitor but can pick up tv from amazon firestick.

Told them if they ask just say you watch Netflix and they cannot enter your property without a court warrant so dont let them in.

Has anyone had the tv license people knock on their doors and what was the outcome?

I got rid of the TV license last Feb, but I also got ride of the TV view box, I don’t have a signal in my house so no live TV. I watch Netflix & YouTube.

The only people who can get a court warrant is the police & those who work for the courts - ie Bailiffs (not Scotland) "

It is not breaking the law to watch Netflix, Prime or now TV without a TV licence. Netflix does not show live TV.

They may show new episodes every week but they are not live.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone watch tv without a tv license?

My kid and friends at Uni has been sent a letter reminding them to get a license if they watch "live" tv.

Is this a scare tactic to get them to buy one?

They dont have a tv only a monitor but can pick up tv from amazon firestick.

Told them if they ask just say you watch Netflix and they cannot enter your property without a court warrant so dont let them in.

Has anyone had the tv license people knock on their doors and what was the outcome?

I got rid of the TV license last Feb, but I also got ride of the TV view box, I don’t have a signal in my house so no live TV. I watch Netflix & YouTube.

The only people who can get a court warrant is the police & those who work for the courts - ie Bailiffs (not Scotland) "

It is not breaking the law to watch Netflix, Prime or now TV without a TV licence. Netflix does not show live TV.

They may show new episodes every week but they are not live.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a scare tactic and very shady. Hubby had a letter shoved under his door when he stayed in halls for the first year when he was at Uni years ago.

No need for a license in university unless you are using BBC iPlayer or actually watching live TV as it is broadcast. We don't watch live TV ourselves either so don't have one at home and neither of us has paid for one in our life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone watch tv without a tv license?

My kid and friends at Uni has been sent a letter reminding them to get a license if they watch "live" tv.

Is this a scare tactic to get them to buy one?

They dont have a tv only a monitor but can pick up tv from amazon firestick.

Told them if they ask just say you watch Netflix and they cannot enter your property without a court warrant so dont let them in.

Has anyone had the tv license people knock on their doors and what was the outcome?

I got rid of the TV license last Feb, but I also got ride of the TV view box, I don’t have a signal in my house so no live TV. I watch Netflix & YouTube.

The only people who can get a court warrant is the police & those who work for the courts - ie Bailiffs (not Scotland)

It is not breaking the law to watch Netflix, Prime or now TV without a TV licence. Netflix does not show live TV.

They may show new episodes every week but they are not live."

Taken from the TV Licensing -

“ TV Licensing

If you watch or record TV on any channel via any TV service (e.g. Sky, Virgin, Freeview, Freesat), you need to be covered by a TV Licence. If you watch live on streaming services (e.g. ITV Hub, All 4, YouTube, Amazon Prime Video, Now, Sky Go), or use BBC iPlayer*, you need to be covered by a TV Licence”

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By *ryan...Man
over a year ago

1950's Original

Licence fee revenues for 2021.........

£3.75 billion ....

Why would they get rid of a cash cow like that.

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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago

Newry Down

The old concept of the TV licence is outdated; I rarely watch television nowadays, and they are reluctant to send folks to prison, as they did in the past, because of the cost.

I am going to get eid of the television and watch YouTube etc on a PC.

The BBC is rubbish and needs to be updated by pay per view.

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By *ackandtheunicornCouple
over a year ago

liverpool

Ignore them. Never paid and never will.

It's all scare tactics

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

£150 a year ?

U joking me ?

U have to pay me £150 a day to watch 2 hours of that crap a day .

BBC…. Having a laugh right ? Do u even know what that stands for ?

I’m not watching that crap .

Go away and stop sending letters .

Yes …. No I’m not afraid of £1000 fine

I’m fine already … good bye x x

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By *ackandtheunicornCouple
over a year ago

liverpool

"£150 a year ?

U joking me ?

U have to pay me £150 a day to watch 2 hours of that crap a day .

BBC…. Having a laugh right ? Do u even know what that stands for ?

I’m not watching that crap .

Go away and stop sending letters .

Yes …. No I’m not afraid of £1000 fine

I’m fine already … good bye x x

Damn straight. Don't pay wether you watch or not. They have no power

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Didn’t know that TVs need to pay some fees to be on here x thank you for bringing that up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have never owned a tv licence in my life!

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By *idnight RamblerMan
over a year ago

Pershore

My son rails against the BBC and refuses to pay the licence fee, but he's happy to sit at our house watching it for free.

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By *im75Her77Couple
over a year ago

937 S.W.

Forgive me if I sound like an uneducated Yank or whatnot but, what on Earth is a t.v. license?

Is it like a car or owning a dog?

Do you have to go to your local magistrate, fill out paperwork, pass a background check just to buy a Samsung?

Or is a license just your way of saying subscription?

Not being snarky,just curious and inquisitive.

~Sandy

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By *asycouple1971 OP Couple
over a year ago

midlands

Thanks for all your answers.

I told our kid to ignore the letters.

Just scare tactics from a corrupt system.

We have paid ours every year just to keep them off our backs but thinking we might not this year.

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
over a year ago

BRIDPORT

"Forgive me if I sound like an uneducated Yank or whatnot but, what on Earth is a t.v. license?

Is it like a car or owning a dog?

Do you have to go to your local magistrate, fill out paperwork, pass a background check just to buy a Samsung?

Or is a license just your way of saying subscription?

Not being snarky,just curious and inquisitive.

~Sandy

In brief,

Back at the start of broadcasting there was only the BBC in the UK.

A licence fee was charged to finance the BBC as it doe not have advertising revenue.

If you had a tv you were required to buy the license annually.

These days you are only required to buy the license if you have a device and receive and watch programs as they are being broadcast.

So watching programs that have been previously recorded for example you don’t need one.

A private company has the contract to chase those who should be paying but aren’t, on behalf of the BBC.

You can find yourself in court for nonpayment but most people just tell the tv inspectors to fuck off when they come knocking at the door.

They require a warrant and a police officer to be present if they want to enter your home to check if you have a tv.

There are other technicalities but that’s the jist of it.

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By *rhugesMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

I have one but most young people don't, years ago a detector van used to go around and could tell if you were watching BBC.

In this digital age it would be very difficult to pin point an address ,unless they were looking at IP addresses which would require far too much resources

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The amount of letters they have posted to me for no licence over the last 3 years would have cost them less to GIVE me a free licence"

THIS

I've ignored them as there is NO legal requirement to respond to the letters. I don't have an arial, which they could check but they can't be bothered!

Whatever happened to the detector vans, lol (as if they existed in the first place

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By *hiskeyColaMan
over a year ago

Oswestry

I've received emails which made it clear that they knew I was watching iPlayer without a license (which I was!). Just buy a license! Bear in mind that the money does go towards paying journalists' wages - the BBC being one of the last bastions of agenda-free investigative journalism in the WORLD! I continued to pay the license fee for several years after I no longer really needed to for this very reason

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By *ames-77Man
over a year ago

milton keynes

Fuck em

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have one but most young people don't, years ago a detector van used to go around and could tell if you were watching BBC.

In this digital age it would be very difficult to pin point an address ,unless they were looking at IP addresses which would require far too much resources "

The detector van was a complete con. There was no way they could detect if you were using a TV at home. There are many sources of electromagnetic radiation emitting from a house. They had no technology capable of identifying a TV especially if it was off.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We very rarely watch live TV but still have a license, I was laughed at when we moved into our house for wanting one but for the 10 Sundays I watch call the midwife at the start of the year, I prefer to have one. I should probably just cancel it really lol

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By *ts the taking part thatMan
over a year ago

southampton

"I've received emails which made it clear that they knew I was watching iPlayer without a license (which I was!). Just buy a license! Bear in mind that the money does go towards paying journalists' wages - the BBC being one of the last bastions of agenda-free investigative journalism in the WORLD! I continued to pay the license fee for several years after I no longer really needed to for this very reason

That would of been an acceptable argument but for the Beebs bias now & woke agenda.

There is so little TV aimed at the much maligned (white) working class male & radio worse. Steve Wright gone & replaced with a gay radio 1 DJ who is just not funny, Vanessa Feltz gone & being replaced with the most useless & overtly camp Welsh weatherman DJ.

Vanessa Feltz replacement is a direct 2 fingers to the audience who at 4am are predominantly hgv drivers & security guards. The guy should be on Saturday afternoons with the ginger denying big toothed Rylan getting people in a party mood for Saturday night.

Liza Riley should replace Zoe Ball too.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"We very rarely watch live TV but still have a license, I was laughed at when we moved into our house for wanting one but for the 10 Sundays I watch call the midwife at the start of the year, I prefer to have one. I should probably just cancel it really lol"

Love call the midwife! X

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By *LheadMan
over a year ago

Chester

" - the BBC being one of the last bastions of agenda-free investigative journalism in the WORLD!"

This is a joke right? Left wing, anti British, pedophile scum. This organisation is the definition of pure evil.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A what?

Still waiting for a visit after getting threatening letters for the last 25 years

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

All those who say they have never paid and never will might be in for a surprise.

The bbc & government are well aware of the growing number of people cancelling their tv licences. The tv license is a royal charter which ends in 2027.It is currently being debated that if the tv licence is scrapped after the charter ends, how it will be funded. They are planning to take the fee directly from everyone’s taxes.

So we will all end up paying, even if we don’t watch it.

A tax per person rather than per household. I’m guessing it will cost us more than it does now, and you won’t be able to cancel it.

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By *RANDMRSJAECouple
over a year ago

chester

I had no idea so many people didn’t pay!

I’ll do my own research but will likely cancel

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have one but most young people don't, years ago a detector van used to go around and could tell if you were watching BBC.

In this digital age it would be very difficult to pin point an address ,unless they were looking at IP addresses which would require far too much resources

Fortunately the metal plates in my head stopped them detecting our illegal TV usage.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"All those who say they have never paid and never will might be in for a surprise.

So we will all end up paying, even if we don’t watch it.

A tax per person rather than per household. I’m guessing it will cost us more than it does now, and you won’t be able to cancel it.

Thats good news! X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Forgive me if I sound like an uneducated Yank or whatnot but, what on Earth is a t.v. license?

Is it like a car or owning a dog?

Do you have to go to your local magistrate, fill out paperwork, pass a background check just to buy a Samsung?

Or is a license just your way of saying subscription?

Not being snarky,just curious and inquisitive.

~Sandy

Ask google . Is official

If u get caught watching tv in uk in tv or any other devices at your adress

Withbout paying the tv license ( £150 ) u at risk of get a £1000 fine .

That’s the paranoia they black mail u with if u don’t pay .

They send u a letter and u have to reply

Or u pay or u say : I don’t use it .

Or they just keep sending letters till reply

Same as registration to vote

Them stupid letters don’t stop .

I don’t watch tv .

I wouldn’t watch even they pay me .

Saying this , respect to all the amazing celebrities :

Actors , comedians and singers and performs that actually give real show .

But just the brain wash adverts and propaganda

I just can’t do it . Sorry

Fake celebrities don’t count . Sorry love

But for me cause u been flashing your pussy labia in big brother house or love island does not make u a celebrity .

Makes u a media sleive . entertaining for the price of peanuts .

Fuck that .

Check how much it costs a tv advert in pick hours like a massive footballs match or dinner time etc etc

Thousands per second .

U wouldnt catch me

There for less then £200 an hour + winner prize as a bonus … if that is a decent wages for a celebrity.

See ? I have no clue . I’m ignorant

I love cinema and series . And Talents .

Respect to all artists behind the curtains .

I would love to act . Was my best at Portuguese in school . And poetry . Shit singer tho ha ha

Not sure I could deal with the top celebrity world

Suffocating in magazines n paparazzi

They just people like us . Who like to have space and breath .

Respect x x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" - the BBC being one of the last bastions of agenda-free investigative journalism in the WORLD!

This is a joke right? Left wing, anti British, pedophile scum. This organisation is the definition of pure evil. "

It’s funny that the left think the BBC is right wing and the right think it is left wing. I’m no fan of the BBC but surely that tells you that they’re a least a little bit unbiased.

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By *ustintime69Man
over a year ago

Bristol

What a bunch of cheapskates!!!

So you don’t think all the Attenborough documentaries, Strictly, radio stations etc need funding? Just stick to wanking in front of you tube videos as your brains atrophy before you! Funniest load of pointless crap I have read in years! Oh and don’t forget it’s pretty good value for what you get compared to the Streamers

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

" - the BBC being one of the last bastions of agenda-free investigative journalism in the WORLD!

This is a joke right? Left wing, anti British, pedophile scum. This organisation is the definition of pure evil.

It’s funny that the left think the BBC is right wing and the right think it is left wing. I’m no fan of the BBC but surely that tells you that they’re a least a little bit unbiased."

But that just means they're kinda pissing everyone off. Would surely be better if neither thought the BBC were bias. Personally I think their news output is pretty left wing and several of their presenters have been wrapped for showing their bias

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over a year ago

" - the BBC being one of the last bastions of agenda-free investigative journalism in the WORLD!

This is a joke right? Left wing, anti British, pedophile scum. This organisation is the definition of pure evil.

It’s funny that the left think the BBC is right wing and the right think it is left wing. I’m no fan of the BBC but surely that tells you that they’re a least a little bit unbiased.

Or they’ve got presenters that represent both sides of the political spectrum.

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By *RANDMRSJAECouple
over a year ago

chester

I just cancelled! Watch us get fined now

I’ll tell them that Fab forumites told me it was ok!

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

" - the BBC being one of the last bastions of agenda-free investigative journalism in the WORLD!

This is a joke right? Left wing, anti British, pedophile scum. This organisation is the definition of pure evil.

It’s funny that the left think the BBC is right wing and the right think it is left wing. I’m no fan of the BBC but surely that tells you that they’re a least a little bit unbiased.

Or they’ve got presenters that represent both sides of the political spectrum."

They're personally not supposed to represent any side of the political spectrum, they're supposed to be impartial but they seem to be failing at that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You can declare you don't need one on the website and that stops them sending letters and visiting."

I registered but they still sent letters about once a month and they have knocked at the door several times..i wont be registering again...they can crack on haha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" - the BBC being one of the last bastions of agenda-free investigative journalism in the WORLD!

This is a joke right? Left wing, anti British, pedophile scum. This organisation is the definition of pure evil.

It’s funny that the left think the BBC is right wing and the right think it is left wing. I’m no fan of the BBC but surely that tells you that they’re a least a little bit unbiased.

Or they’ve got presenters that represent both sides of the political spectrum.

They're personally not supposed to represent any side of the political spectrum, they're supposed to be impartial but they seem to be failing at that"

That I can agree on.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

That would of been an acceptable argument but for the Beebs bias now & woke agenda.

Liza Riley should replace Zoe Ball too.

We'd be very happy to keep Owain Wyn Evans here at NW Tonight. He's an amazing presenter (not just of the weather), very engaging and personable. I hope the sticks-in-the-mud BBC Radio 2 types aren't horrible to him. I saw someone the other day saying he'd like Terry Wogan back - good luck with that!!

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By *hiskeyColaMan
over a year ago

Oswestry

" - the BBC being one of the last bastions of agenda-free investigative journalism in the WORLD!

This is a joke right? Left wing, anti British, pedophile scum. This organisation is the definition of pure evil. "

Knew someone would say this, with exactly this much vitriol

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By *skyouneverknowMan
over a year ago

Calne

"I wouldn't have one if I didn't have to watch the football. There ain't much live TV I watch anymore. "

This

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By *uliette500Woman
over a year ago

Hull

"They say you need a TV licence to watch YouTube not just TV...

So technically that's everyone with a smart phone right?

All the letters they send goes straight to the recycling lol"

When you buy a tv dealers must notify TV Licensing within 28 days of each transaction, providing full details of the buyer or hirer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone watch tv without a tv license?

My kid and friends at Uni has been sent a letter reminding them to get a license if they watch "live" tv.

Is this a scare tactic to get them to buy one?

They dont have a tv only a monitor but can pick up tv from amazon firestick.

Told them if they ask just say you watch Netflix and they cannot enter your property without a court warrant so dont let them in.

Has anyone had the tv license people knock on their doors and what was the outcome?

Once they have a person's address regards a TV licence they have it always, personally l think it should be way cheaper than what it is , the amount of wages they pay to over rated , very bad interviewers, radio or TV is scandalous, if a person is in an established dwelling like a house it's very hard not to have one but if a person is on a college campus then no that person shouldn't have one but it's all money , money to those that want a person to have one .

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By *ose-tinted GlassesMan
over a year ago

Glasgow / London

I pay every year because I want to support the BBC.

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By *eptimiusMan
over a year ago

East

Never have and never will. These people only have the power you give them!

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By *attoodchapMan
over a year ago

Swansea

I'm more curious to know.....has anyone actually ever been fined or taken to court? I've never heard of anyone being prosecuted.

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By *ingle ex cuckMan
over a year ago

chester

I've not Payed a TV licence since 2011

Why ?

Because I've seen the salary list of the employees from top to bottom and that's what the licence funds .

If you seen it you wouldn't pay it

Even a podcast in somewhere like the Caribbean or USA is basically an all inclusive 2 week holiday for two employees who actually work 16 hours to produce the podcast .

I've had literally hundreds of letters red and white and I just put them back in the post box

They knocked once when I was in bed and I only know it was them because they knocked at my neighbours at the same time and he opened the door to them.

Please stop funding these outrageous salarys especially if you don't even watch the BBC

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mr actually refuses to pay it.

A man came to our door a few years ago when the kids were wee. I opened it, screaming 10 month old on my hip and he muttered something. Told him to hang on a minute, couldn't hear him and I needed to turn the tele down.

It was the fucking licence guy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Simply refuse entry to your home and they can do nothing. I was fined in the 90's for no TV license still not paid the fine.

Why pay so people like Garry Liniker and Phile Scofield earn so much money.

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By *ingle ex cuckMan
over a year ago

chester

"Simply refuse entry to your home and they can do nothing. I was fined in the 90's for no TV license still not paid the fine.

Why pay so people like Garry Liniker and Phile Scofield earn so much money."

CORRECT

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Mr actually refuses to pay it.

It was the fucking licence guy.

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LMAO x

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

"years ago a detector van used to go around and could tell if you were watching"

You really believe that?

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By *lowingMan
over a year ago

Warrington

Yes, I have one. I watch TV, including the BBC do I have one. Simples. Get so sick of adverts on commercial channels. Would pay more if more channels would adopt a no advert system

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The bbc still have accusations and open cases on paedophilia. Its illegal to support crime..

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By *illybeachboyMan
over a year ago

Guernsey

It's time the BBC self funded through advertising.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Simply refuse entry to your home and they can do nothing. I was fined in the 90's for no TV license still not paid the fine.

Why pay so people like Garry Liniker and Phile Scofield earn so much money."

Philip Schofield doesn't work for the BBC, he works for ITV. But let's not let facts get in the way!

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

"I get them all the time and I don't even have an ariel haha"

Not many ariels in Milton Keynes.

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

"Wouldn’t suspect anyone is going to say in a open public forum that they are brake the law

But I am in full agreement off doing away with tv licence

We pay for bbc not to have ads

Such outdated bbc should just run ads "

Itv is free with ads

Most of non freeview Sky isn't free and that has ads. Murdoch is a greedy sod.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

I don't want to watch ads

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

Imagine if Netflix, Pornhub or Youtube went this way and bullied you into paying up or else, even if you never visited their sites. Then had it passed through law.

This smacks of Monty Python "Let's tax all foreigners living abroad".

Stop the rot.

Chilijoncarne on YT is worth watching.

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

"Forgive me if I sound like an uneducated Yank or whatnot but, what on Earth is a t.v. license?

Is it like a car or owning a dog?

Do you have to go to your local magistrate, fill out paperwork, pass a background check just to buy a Samsung?

Or is a license just your way of saying subscription?

Not being snarky,just curious and inquisitive.

~Sandy

You can be forgiven for not knowing.

It's essentialy a tax, for owing a telly (TVs are something else on this site) and the BEEB (BBC, not the FAB kind) have got it into their head and subsequent legislation that everyone with a television set (PC/laptop/tablet/smartphone) WILL be watching live television from anywhere on the planet. This assumption is why they use scare tactics with court fines and formerly prison.

This ais a golden goose that keeps laying eggs, so poor little Tv and radio presenters get £3million pounds a year, just for hosting a breakfast show on the radio.

Thought experiment. Imagine if the Federal US Government forced every American household to pay $150 every year to Public Service Broadcasting or similar just to fund that TV network and a hand full of non commercial radio stations, even if you never watched or listened to them. Would you be happy? Would you pay? All this with threats of fines and scary letters.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone watch tv without a tv license?

My kid and friends at Uni has been sent a letter reminding them to get a license if they watch "live" tv.

Is this a scare tactic to get them to buy one?

They dont have a tv only a monitor but can pick up tv from amazon firestick.

Told them if they ask just say you watch Netflix and they cannot enter your property without a court warrant so dont let them in.

Has anyone had the tv license people knock on their doors and what was the outcome?

Tell them to fuck off. Tell the TV goons you don't watch live TV and they won't be bothered again.

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

"Simply refuse entry to your home and they can do nothing. I was fined in the 90's for no TV license still not paid the fine.

Why pay so people like Garry Liniker and Phile Scofield earn so much money.

Philip Schofield doesn't work for the BBC, he works for ITV. But let's not let facts get in the way!"

and a few advertising agencies as well. Buy gin, get d*unk, loose your licence, sell your car. Yup hes's there.

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By *iger4uWoman
over a year ago

In my happy place

"Ditched our tv many years ago. Still get shit letters despite my wife being over 75 and we're on pension credit. Never watch the BBC crap but do enjoy the broadcasts from Japanese TV on the desktop.

Just FYI there's no free license for older people anymore. "

There is, but you have to meet the criteria. Pension credit is one of them.

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

"All those who say they have never paid and never will might be in for a surprise.

So we will all end up paying, even if we don’t watch it.

A tax per person rather than per household. I’m guessing it will cost us more than it does now, and you won’t be able to cancel it.

Thats good news! X"

Well you won’t realise you’re paying it as it’ll come from your income tax or whichever tax they choose to use. So in that respect it will be a good thing.

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By *aptain VMan
over a year ago

Birstall, Leicester

"Does anyone watch tv without a tv license?

My kid and friends at Uni has been sent a letter reminding them to get a license if they watch "live" tv.

Is this a scare tactic to get them to buy one?

They dont have a tv only a monitor but can pick up tv from amazon firestick.

Told them if they ask just say you watch Netflix and they cannot enter your property without a court warrant so dont let them in.

Has anyone had the tv license people knock on their doors and what was the outcome?

When I was at uni 15 years ago, they used to come round with a scanner and if you didn't have a licence and caught watching tv.... they would fine you on the spot.... Best just to get the tv in my opinion unless they are not watching terrestrial tv and just streaming

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By *estinyIsAllCouple
over a year ago

Staffordshire

We pay it begrudgingly. Fumble would rather we didn't but I'm too worried about the repercussions of not. It is an archaic thing that needs to go away though.

D x

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By *asycouple1971 OP Couple
over a year ago

midlands

"We pay it begrudgingly. Fumble would rather we didn't but I'm too worried about the repercussions of not. It is an archaic thing that needs to go away though.

D x"

Same here. I rather didnt pay it. Not much on tv and some of the wages they are paying presenters to read an auto cue is daft.

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By *j.bhMan
over a year ago

Bournemouth

TV Licensing Tend To Lie ,Scare I'm Afraid,, Also They Have Been Trying To Get Phone Companies To Build BBC App Into The Phones Like Facebook, So They Can Enforce TV Licence On Everybody, Which They Have Failed To Achieve But Still Send These Letters

I Stopped Paying My TV Licence 2 Years Ago,

Because The Only Time You Pay A License Is When Your Using The Aerial For BBC Itv Channel 4&5,

Horrible Vile State Owned Company That Earns Revenue By Lies & Bullying (95% Scam & Scum )

And Another Thing All The Legal And Enforcement Side Is Mostly Lies Is Well , NEVER LET THEM IN & They Have To Fight Hard To Prove Everything Anyway For Courts To Step In , They Can't Prove Anything Unless Spying Into Your Dwellings Trying To Find Aerial In The Wall

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By *ustintime69Man
over a year ago

Bristol

Just a thought but I wonder how many of you are paying for being on Fab and do you think it works better if you do? Would you rather have ads on here that break up your experience to pay for it?

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By *ellhungvweMan
over a year ago

Cheltenham

I Stopped Paying My TV Licence 2 Years Ago,

Because The Only Time You Pay A License Is When Your Using The Aerial For BBC Itv Channel 4&5,

https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/faqs/FAQ33 disagrees with you:

“You need to be covered by a TV Licence to watch live on streaming services - such as ITV Hub, All 4, YouTube, Amazon Prime Video, Now, Sky Go.”

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By *ustintime69Man
over a year ago

Bristol

Btw I don’t agree with the use of private companies to chase people for payment but the government have pushed the bbc to the point where it has to shrink or die

And as for all the paedo stuff, half of you weren’t even born when that was going on so getting riled up about it now seems a bit lame

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By *estinyIsAllCouple
over a year ago

Staffordshire

"Just a thought but I wonder how many of you are paying for being on Fab and do you think it works better if you do? Would you rather have ads on here that break up your experience to pay for it?

We pay to be on fab, but we WANT to be on fab. We pay for the BBC but don't watch any of their channels nor listen to their radio stations.

Chalk and cheese.

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By *ustintime69Man
over a year ago

Bristol

"Just a thought but I wonder how many of you are paying for being on Fab and do you think it works better if you do? Would you rather have ads on here that break up your experience to pay for it?

We pay to be on fab, but we WANT to be on fab. We pay for the BBC but don't watch any of their channels nor listen to their radio stations.

Chalk and cheese.

Ok so let’s frame it in slightly different way….traffic wardens, lollipop ladies, speed cameras….all things that bother a lot of people either don’t use or don’t want….should we not pay for them because of that? Where does your line in the sand get drawn?

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By *eneralKenobiMan
over a year ago

North Angus

I wish I could but my better half says it’s safer to have it

barely even watch anything on there now that isn’t streamed

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
over a year ago

Reading

"Just a thought but I wonder how many of you are paying for being on Fab and do you think it works better if you do? Would you rather have ads on here that break up your experience to pay for it?

We pay to be on fab, but we WANT to be on fab. We pay for the BBC but don't watch any of their channels nor listen to their radio stations.

Chalk and cheese.

This would be more akin to a very expensive parking lot. Yes if you use the parking lot you should pay. But to pay for it when I don't use it is unacceptable. I have not watched ANY live TV or anything on iplayer since I gave up my license. If they had a monthly payment model, I would dip in and out. But I couldn't justify paying the license fee for watching the BBC maybe one hour a week. Instead I pay for itv with no ads.

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By *rontier PsychiatristMan
over a year ago

Coventry

When I was in the Forces sometimes the TV inspectors would come round. The guards at the main gate would stall them and wrap them up in paperwork for a bit and the message would be spread around camp. Then everybody would put their TVs into the room of the one lad who actually had a licence. They would knock on everyone's door to find us all reading a book and no TV then eventually find a room full of TVs (remember most of those TVs were not flat back then). Ask the lad have you got a TV licence, he'd show them it. Are all these TVs yours, yes he'd say. Then they'd fuck off for another few months.

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
over a year ago

nearby

"Does anyone watch tv without a tv license?

Tell them to fuck off. Tell the TV goons you don't watch live TV and they won't be bothered again."

Good advice

And if they knock on your door DO NOT let them in.

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By *lotjockeyMan
over a year ago

Wellington

we still pay, and will probably continue to do so

we only watch live tv on BBC channels, recording all the rest to skip the adds

I do however listen to a lot of BBC radio, so dont begrudge it.

we pay a similair amount over the year for netflix and prime, and probably watch those about equally

And yes, those vans were all a con, just a pile of flashing lights, and a list with everyone who hadn't got a license, my mates dad drove one....

they worked on the basis that if you had a tv but no license you'd just fess up and pay up.

Different times back then

I had no tv for 2 years when i first got married,;-)

, and took delight in showing the nosy buggers around to prove it

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By *iable93Man
over a year ago

Liverpool

Stopped paying two years ago and did the online declaration. No live TV is watched in my house, never once had anyone turn up to check.

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By *htcMan
over a year ago

I don't pay any TV licence in years. They send threatening letters all the time, white, red, brown envelopes.

It's just all threats. Ignored and chucked in the bin. Never gave them any name on records for the address.

They can come all they want not they have yet, if they did ever arrive would tell them to leave private land as they have no authority to enter or be there if they dont the dog will be left out or police notified.

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By *htcMan
over a year ago

"You can declare you don't need one on the website and that stops them sending letters and visiting."

Actually you can't the website says you can but when you try it asks you to call them, the staff on the phone are the ruddest staff you can ever speak to. Hence the reason why I never bothered after I moved to register a declaration.

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By *estinyIsAllCouple
over a year ago

Staffordshire

"Just a thought but I wonder how many of you are paying for being on Fab and do you think it works better if you do? Would you rather have ads on here that break up your experience to pay for it?

We pay to be on fab, but we WANT to be on fab. We pay for the BBC but don't watch any of their channels nor listen to their radio stations.

Chalk and cheese.

At the BBC, that's what we're discussing. It's an archaic system being forced to pay to watch TV and we're one of the very few remaining nations that has this in place. BBC Studios, the worldwide side of the Beeb generates massive revenue from multiple avenues. It works all across the world via subscriptions, yet we MUST pay it without a choice or face prosecution.

What a joke, and you're here comparing them to Fab and Lollipop Ladies.

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
over a year ago

Reading

"You can declare you don't need one on the website and that stops them sending letters and visiting.

I did it all online. And had polite emails back about it. No questions asked.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You can declare you don't need one on the website and that stops them sending letters and visiting.

This

I think the declaration lasts two years but you won't get any contact in that time.

LvM"

This. I wasn't bothered for two years and no one knocked my door. Filled the declaration again to say don't use

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By *RANDMRSJAECouple
over a year ago

chester

"You can declare you don't need one on the website and that stops them sending letters and visiting.

I did it all online. And had polite emails back about it. No questions asked."

I’ve had a response back just now confirming declaration lasts for 2 years. They’ll contact us again at the time but MAY pay us a visit in the meantime.

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By *immerman100Man
over a year ago

Never never land

You need 1 if you watch any live TV just not BBC

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By *ustintime69Man
over a year ago

Bristol

"Just a thought but I wonder how many of you are paying for being on Fab and do you think it works better if you do? Would you rather have ads on here that break up your experience to pay for it?

We pay to be on fab, but we WANT to be on fab. We pay for the BBC but don't watch any of their channels nor listen to their radio stations.

Chalk and cheese.

What a joke, and you're here comparing them to Fab and Lollipop Ladies.

Ah well thanks for that

BBC Studios is the commercial arm of the BBC and it’s stated aim is to make sales worldwide of BBC produced content which it does to support the BBC and enhance content which the license fee would not be able to financially support. It’s very successful because the BBC makes good content which is admired worldwide. If you want to talk about things like CBeebies or CBBC or the numerous local radio stations it provides rather than the obvious cheap shots at paedos and all that. I don’t think it’s perfect and the outsourcing of licence fee tracking has been terrible but that’s down to Tory government making the BBC public enemy number one.

But fuck it eh….what do I know

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I went online, registered as not having a tv and never heard anything since.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not a scare tactic - I remember the day a frank butcher lookalike knocked on my uni shared house and asked to see my TV licence - I said I didn’t have a tv…. Which was true - my house mate had one with no licence… we got one pronto… even then - in a shared house you needed a separate licence for each room… not sure if that’s still the case

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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago

Newry Down

Frankly, I am giving very serious consideration to getting rid of my TV sets.

Television, as it has now existed for decades is finished; the world and personal entertainment is in a new era.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

"They say you need a TV licence to watch YouTube not just TV...

So technically that's everyone with a smart phone right?

All the letters they send goes straight to the recycling lol

They ate interpreting the telecommunications act which clearly says equipment installed and configured capable of receiving TV programmes. They are saying iPlayer comes under ‘equipment’ but I dint think it’s been tested in court yet

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By *WINGStars23Couple
over a year ago

Northwest

The BBC has got their fingers in a lot of pies trying to hang on to yhe licence fee. Basically, any format that shows BBC content you need to have a licence to watch. This includes Netfix, Amazon prime, YouTube and more. Even if you don't watch any of their content - its there, so you could at some point.

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria

Pay by direct debit only a few quid and there is still some good tv on the BBC.

Do not have sky Netflix or virgin

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By *heDeliveryManMan
over a year ago

Leicester

Legally if you don't have the means to watch live TV (for example an aerial connected) they can't do you for anything. I pay for it but don't pay for sky/virgin/Netflix, I just pay a yearly fee of around £70 for iptv (and monthly internet).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone watch tv without a tv license?

My kid and friends at Uni has been sent a letter reminding them to get a license if they watch "live" tv.

Is this a scare tactic to get them to buy one?

They dont have a tv only a monitor but can pick up tv from amazon firestick.

Told them if they ask just say you watch Netflix and they cannot enter your property without a court warrant so dont let them in.

Has anyone had the tv license people knock on their doors and what was the outcome?

I dm you explanation

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By *enny PR9TV/TS
over a year ago

Southport

a TV licensing officer is nothing more than a glorified salesman, treat them as you would any door to door salesman trying to sell you something you don't want. Be polite, a simple no thank you then close the door will be perfect. Don't let him into your home and don't enter into conversation with him. That then will conclude their investigation until the next time they visit you.

If you are watching live TV or the iplayer without a licence make sure it can't be seen from outside you property via a window.

What can you watch without a licence.--

Any catchup service (except BBC iplayer and any 'live' programming.

Any on-demand streaming service (except live broadcasting such a Amazons football)

YouTube. including live streams (except where the live stream come from a TV company. So a live stream from Brenda about flower arranging is OK but a live stream from Sky News is not.

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By *razytimesinloveCouple
over a year ago

SW Scotland

We get sent the usual letter every year or so.

Phone them up and say you are the occupier, do not give your name. Say you do not need a tv license and they’ll note that on the system.

Only had someone pay a visit once. If you are in England you can tell them you have removed their right to implied access.

I don’t think this works in Scotland but if you catch them looking through your window then it falls under unlawful surveillance.

Basically throw a couple of fancy sentences at the “tv license officer” it usually does the trick to scare them off. They’re used to bullying pensioners etc.

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