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"Im dying to tell someone about my holiday but dont wont to bore anyone to death(i know i usually do) but if your interested i will post on here what i did" Go on then diamond | |||
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"Im dying to tell someone about my holiday but dont wont to bore anyone to death(i know i usually do) but if your interested i will post on here what i did Go on then diamond " Well i went to a little known fort called leivelles or something. The museum was closed but you could walk right in it and we did the whole walk round and i climbed up to the top of it. I found that interesting. We went to tyn-cot war cemetry that was really sad, we spent ages going up and down the graves. So many unknown soldiers there and lots with remembrance poppies who obviously still had lots of living family. There was jewish and turkish people buried there as well. We went to ypres, to in flanders field musuem, which is now so uptodate but a bit to tecnical now every thing is interacted but brilliant. We went down to mening gate and walked all down and over it, looking at all the different regiments. Also as it hadnt long been poppy day all of them where still there. So many from England british legions, fire services and police forces. Almost run out of places to do in flanders now so we will do Holland next time | |||
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"I should imagine it was quite emotion and thought provoking diamonds, we often walk round war cemeteries, we just look in silence, maybe pointing out one or two of the headstones of young soldiers that were killed in action! " Very sad, we all walked in our own directions, it really makes you think especially if you have children that age. It was very quiet as it was sunday and there was only one coach trip there. Think ive said before, im ashamed to say its only in later years ive really learnt what suffering people went through just for us | |||
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"It is so sad, but my dad served as a medic with the engineers so I grew up on camp. When I went to Bergen - Belsen, I just cried the whole time. Auschwitz was a life changing experience for me, but one I still cant talk about " Ive been to fort breendonk, which was more of a holding camp than an actual concentration camp. I would like to go to aushwitz one day. Not sure im ready mentally for it just yet though | |||
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"Im dying to tell someone about my holiday but dont wont to bore anyone to death(i know i usually do) but if your interested i will post on here what i did Go on then diamond Well i went to a little known fort called leivelles or something. The museum was closed but you could walk right in it and we did the whole walk round and i climbed up to the top of it. I found that interesting. We went to tyn-cot war cemetry that was really sad, we spent ages going up and down the graves. So many unknown soldiers there and lots with remembrance poppies who obviously still had lots of living family. There was jewish and turkish people buried there as well. We went to ypres, to in flanders field musuem, which is now so uptodate but a bit to tecnical now every thing is interacted but brilliant. We went down to mening gate and walked all down and over it, looking at all the different regiments. Also as it hadnt long been poppy day all of them where still there. So many from England british legions, fire services and police forces. Almost run out of places to do in flanders now so we will do Holland next time" My Great Grandfather was with Black Watch and went out as part of the BEF in August, 1914. He was killed in France/Flanders on 9 November, 1914 and his name is on a plaque on the Menim Gate. He never saw his daughter, my Grandmother, as she was born on 5 September, 1914. I fully intend to visit Ypres and Flanders in 2014 being the 100th Anniversary of his death. Well done you for your trip and for sharing. xxx | |||
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"Im dying to tell someone about my holiday but dont wont to bore anyone to death(i know i usually do) but if your interested i will post on here what i did" Is it just WW1 you're interested in, Diamond...? | |||
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"Im dying to tell someone about my holiday but dont wont to bore anyone to death(i know i usually do) but if your interested i will post on here what i did Is it just WW1 you're interested in, Diamond...? " some world war two, but ive been to more world war 1 places. Im still an amatuer. I did learn while i was away that the belguim didnt have a proper army to start the war with. To start with it was one conscription per son then it was only a few months before the war that it was national service. So they started the war with national service lads and volunteers with a mix matched uniform | |||
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"Im dying to tell someone about my holiday but dont wont to bore anyone to death(i know i usually do) but if your interested i will post on here what i did Is it just WW1 you're interested in, Diamond...? some world war two, but ive been to more world war 1 places. Im still an amatuer. I did learn while i was away that the belguim didnt have a proper army to start the war with. To start with it was one conscription per son then it was only a few months before the war that it was national service. So they started the war with national service lads and volunteers with a mix matched uniform" That's because most of Belgians full-time army was in Africa (Belgian Congo). If they'd stayed at home and done to the Germans what they did to the Africans, we wouldn't have had half the job to do... | |||
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"It is so sad, but my dad served as a medic with the engineers so I grew up on camp. When I went to Bergen - Belsen, I just cried the whole time. Auschwitz was a life changing experience for me, but one I still cant talk about " We lived in bergen too, belson will never forget that experience | |||
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"I am very interested in WW2 as opposed to WW1 and as my friends often state 'know far too much about it for it to be healthy' That's how I spent most of my time in Berlin recently, finding places of interest to me. When I am next there in January I am off to the German-Russian Museum which is housed in the building where the Germans signed the Unconditional Surrender in 1945. Is it wrong that I am excited about that ? " No. But I thought they signed the Unconditional Surrender in Monty's field 'caravan'..? The formal surrender would, no doubt, have been signed somewhere grander.. | |||
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"I am very interested in WW2 as opposed to WW1 and as my friends often state 'know far too much about it for it to be healthy' That's how I spent most of my time in Berlin recently, finding places of interest to me. When I am next there in January I am off to the German-Russian Museum which is housed in the building where the Germans signed the Unconditional Surrender in 1945. Is it wrong that I am excited about that ? No. But I thought they signed the Unconditional Surrender in Monty's field 'caravan'..? The formal surrender would, no doubt, have been signed somewhere grander.. " The surrender at Reims wasn't enough for the Russians ! They stated that their representative in Reims was not authorised to sign the document so they had a secondary - ultimate - surrender later the same night in Berlin so that Zhukov (who did have authority) could sign the document. The one in Reims was signed for the Germans by Jodl (Chief of the armed forces operations) and in Berlin by Keitel (armed forces chief of staff). Keitel was senior to Jodl. (not that that made much difference, they were both hung after the Nuremberg Trials) | |||
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"Did you go to the last post ceremony at the Menin Gate. Took part in the ceremony when I was in the cadets, very moving expereance. " Was just talking about it in pm, i didnt go this time but i have been before. I agree very moving and they have played it every night since the end of the war | |||
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"It is so sad, but my dad served as a medic with the engineers so I grew up on camp. When I went to Bergen - Belsen, I just cried the whole time. Auschwitz was a life changing experience for me, but one I still cant talk about We lived in bergen too, belson will never forget that experience" One of my nieces as just come back from the camps and has effected her quite a bit. Too not learn from ones past only means that the same mistakes can happen again | |||
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"Did you go to the last post ceremony at the Menin Gate. Took part in the ceremony when I was in the cadets, very moving expereance. Was just talking about it in pm, i didnt go this time but i have been before. I agree very moving and they have played it every night since the end of the war" Ye, even during WW2 they did it in England somewhere instead. Couldn't imagine what it would be like for some of the soilders. Glad they are remembered the way they should be. | |||
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"Did you go to the last post ceremony at the Menin Gate. Took part in the ceremony when I was in the cadets, very moving expereance. Was just talking about it in pm, i didnt go this time but i have been before. I agree very moving and they have played it every night since the end of the war" local fire fighters carry out the ceremony.. they even did it as there was still fighting going on in the town when it was being liberated in WW2.. respect.. | |||
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"Did you go to the last post ceremony at the Menin Gate. Took part in the ceremony when I was in the cadets, very moving expereance. Was just talking about it in pm, i didnt go this time but i have been before. I agree very moving and they have played it every night since the end of the war Ye, even during WW2 they did it in England somewhere instead. Couldn't imagine what it would be like for some of the soilders. Glad they are remembered the way they should be." It is the only thing that really chilled me to my bones. Where ever I have been in the world it has stopped me in my tracks. Thank you could never ever be enough | |||
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"I am very interested in WW2 as opposed to WW1 and as my friends often state 'know far too much about it for it to be healthy' That's how I spent most of my time in Berlin recently, finding places of interest to me. When I am next there in January I am off to the German-Russian Museum which is housed in the building where the Germans signed the Unconditional Surrender in 1945. Is it wrong that I am excited about that ? " And I thought I was interested in WW2 because I'd read 3 Antony Beevor books in the last couple of months !! Not wrong to be excited about it though. We discovered a Holocaust Memorial/Museum in Sherwood Forest recently that we didn't know existed. | |||
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"Im really glad i posted this now. " I'm not I shall be known from this day on as Boring Bussy | |||
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"On New Year's Day 1919, over 200 sailors who'd served during WWI were drowned a few yards offshore near Stornoway when the Iolaire, taking them home to Lewis, foundered on rocks. The men were in uniform and wearing heavy boots making it dificult to swim ashore." You're running a close second to me now Onny | |||
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"yAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaawn... (just cos nobody else has done it) hehehe x oops, and THIS is a swinging site!" ooh you troll... | |||
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"yAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaawn... (just cos nobody else has done it) hehehe x oops, and THIS is a swinging site!" so why the hell open thread. there are plenty of others without you being so damned rude | |||
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"yAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaawn... (just cos nobody else has done it) hehehe x oops, and THIS is a swinging site! ooh you troll..." it shows a complete lack of respect to what this thread is about | |||
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"yAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaawn... (just cos nobody else has done it) hehehe x oops, and THIS is a swinging site! ooh you troll...it shows a complete lack of respect to what this thread is about" It was a joke, and Ive actually just been remembering and reading up on bismark diamond...so I dunno where lines are being blurred on what was a joke and like someone joked before about being known as 'boring'.If uve ever read any of my other posts u would possibly know I do not have the attitude that because this is a swinging site that we cant talk about other things despite sex(see my thread on the blond rescued dog)... pretty offensive u think I'm being disrespectful to anything or anyone. try not jumping to immense conclusions. | |||
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"yAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaawn... (just cos nobody else has done it) hehehe x oops, and THIS is a swinging site! ooh you troll...it shows a complete lack of respect to what this thread is about It was a joke, and Ive actually just been remembering and reading up on bismark diamond...so I dunno where lines are being blurred on what was a joke and like someone joked before about being known as 'boring'.If uve ever read any of my other posts u would possibly know I do not have the attitude that because this is a swinging site that we cant talk about other things despite sex(see my thread on the blond rescued dog)... pretty offensive u think I'm being disrespectful to anything or anyone. try not jumping to immense conclusions." the puppy was blind in fact lol | |||
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"yAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaawn... (just cos nobody else has done it) hehehe x oops, and THIS is a swinging site! ooh you troll...it shows a complete lack of respect to what this thread is about It was a joke, and Ive actually just been remembering and reading up on bismark diamond...so I dunno where lines are being blurred on what was a joke and like someone joked before about being known as 'boring'.If uve ever read any of my other posts u would possibly know I do not have the attitude that because this is a swinging site that we cant talk about other things despite sex(see my thread on the blond rescued dog)... pretty offensive u think I'm being disrespectful to anything or anyone. try not jumping to immense conclusions." I did read it as a joke. As for 'Fiona' (as if the dog, didn't have enough problems eh ?) Well, since you introduced us to it, I have made several grown ups cry by showing them said clip. It's me mums turn tonight - she hasn't seen it yet | |||
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"yAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaawn... (just cos nobody else has done it) hehehe x oops, and THIS is a swinging site! ooh you troll...it shows a complete lack of respect to what this thread is about It was a joke, and Ive actually just been remembering and reading up on bismark diamond...so I dunno where lines are being blurred on what was a joke and like someone joked before about being known as 'boring'.If uve ever read any of my other posts u would possibly know I do not have the attitude that because this is a swinging site that we cant talk about other things despite sex(see my thread on the blond rescued dog)... pretty offensive u think I'm being disrespectful to anything or anyone. try not jumping to immense conclusions." i try not to read too much of what you write. we all see things with different eyes, so i will take your word that you jumping in a poignent thread and yawning was a joke | |||
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"The poem was written by a guy called Keith Douglas" Keith Douglas is one of the few famous war poets of WWII, and a member of the Nottinghamshire (SR) Yeomanry, a predecessor of my own regiment. As well as the poetry, he wrote an interesting book about his service in the western desert called Alamein to Zem Zem. | |||
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"Have been several times, extremely moving ceremony. Also found relatives grave too. I picked up some live 303 ammo, forgot it was in my bag and flew to Belfast for work, with it still in my bag. Never got stopped. The Devonshire regiment took a pounding, there is a stone to them at "The Devonshire Trench" Hopelessly out numbered they held their line until being over run and killed. They were buried there The inscription says; "The Devonshires held this trench, they hold it still"" Am assuming you're talking about WW1 here? My Dad was in The Devonshires in WW2. | |||
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"Re what was said about walking in own directions I've done this with friends when visiting the American Cemetery for the D Day landings and also at a plce called Oradour Sur Gloane (sic). A village that was almost wiped out by the occupying Germans and then burnt almost to the ground. But it was left as it was on that fateful day. You can still see the mayors burnt out car. The new village was built next to it and the most awful thing is that the gravestones in the chuechyard all bear the same date" The only good thing (??) to come out of what happened in Oradour is that the SS troops who carried out the massacre were all dead within 12 weeks themselves. They were re-deployed to the Eastern Front soon after and came up against some of the crack Russian troops. Poetic justice...?? | |||
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"Re what was said about walking in own directions I've done this with friends when visiting the American Cemetery for the D Day landings and also at a plce called Oradour Sur Gloane (sic). A village that was almost wiped out by the occupying Germans and then burnt almost to the ground. But it was left as it was on that fateful day. You can still see the mayors burnt out car. The new village was built next to it and the most awful thing is that the gravestones in the chuechyard all bear the same date The only good thing (??) to come out of what happened in Oradour is that the SS troops who carried out the massacre were all dead within 12 weeks themselves. They were re-deployed to the Eastern Front soon after and came up against some of the crack Russian troops. Poetic justice...?? " Actually some of the surviving SS troops were later tried for the massacre a few years after the war. Over 40 others survived the war but were never tried as they were in the new East Germany by that time. | |||
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"Re what was said about walking in own directions I've done this with friends when visiting the American Cemetery for the D Day landings and also at a plce called Oradour Sur Gloane (sic). A village that was almost wiped out by the occupying Germans and then burnt almost to the ground. But it was left as it was on that fateful day. You can still see the mayors burnt out car. The new village was built next to it and the most awful thing is that the gravestones in the chuechyard all bear the same date The only good thing (??) to come out of what happened in Oradour is that the SS troops who carried out the massacre were all dead within 12 weeks themselves. They were re-deployed to the Eastern Front soon after and came up against some of the crack Russian troops. Poetic justice...?? Actually some of the surviving SS troops were later tried for the massacre a few years after the war. Over 40 others survived the war but were never tried as they were in the new East Germany by that time." Didn't know that. I understood they'd all copped it. Hope they hung them. The Commanding 'Officer' who gave the orders for the massacre was certainly dead just a few weeks after. Can't remember how (needs a bit of googling...) | |||
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"I also went to antwerp for the day to the old part of the town and down to the river, saw rubens statue and went in the cathedral., then brussels but it was wet the day we went to brussels, saw a few sites but went mainly for the christmas market" Diamond thank you for bringing this thread to the forum. Glad it was a good visit for you with many differing emotions. My particular interest is ww2 simply because my father was involved. Antwerp was one of the places I was going to visit with him but he passed away in 1993 whilst we were planning the trip. He was with RAF Regiment but the past two hours I have discovered so much on the internet - even a description by a Belgian national of an incident on 27 November 1944 of a V2 rocket attack on the city centre that dad described to me word for word. He would have liked to have seen this info himself. Anyway thanks again and I have some more good memories of the old fella | |||
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"Have been several times, extremely moving ceremony. Also found relatives grave too. I picked up some live 303 ammo, forgot it was in my bag and flew to Belfast for work, with it still in my bag. Never got stopped. The Devonshire regiment took a pounding, there is a stone to them at "The Devonshire Trench" Hopelessly out numbered they held their line until being over run and killed. They were buried there The inscription says; "The Devonshires held this trench, they hold it still"Am assuming you're talking about WW1 here? My Dad was in The Devonshires in WW2. " Yes WW1 | |||
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