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"What do people think ahould they now be Manatory in newer cars , i have just had the pleasure off using mine to settle a motoring claim so me personnally are all in for them " Regularly send footage to police using operation Snap. Many have had driver training courses, others warned and a few convictions. Roads are unruly due to lack of policing. | |||
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" Regularly send footage to police using operation Snap. Many have had driver training courses, others warned and a few convictions. Roads are unruly due to lack of policing." Amd this is why they shouldn't be mandatory, as the police would be overwhelmed with footage from do-gooders reporting every incident possible. | |||
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"An AO HGV driver currently under investigation for tailgating less than 2 metres from my car in roadworks at 53mph. Looks like they will terminate him for reckless endangerment." You sound like you get a thrill from this Maybe need a hobby | |||
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"An AO HGV driver currently under investigation for tailgating less than 2 metres from my car in roadworks at 53mph. Looks like they will terminate him for reckless endangerment. You sound like you get a thrill from this Maybe need a hobby" My thoughts exactly | |||
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"All for them . " Dogging adventures or dashcams ??? | |||
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"An AO HGV driver currently under investigation for tailgating less than 2 metres from my car in roadworks at 53mph. Looks like they will terminate him for reckless endangerment. You sound like you get a thrill from this Maybe need a hobby" I have a great hobby.. Taking dickheads who put the lives of others at risk of accidents or being killed, off the road. Same with numerous mobile phone users I've had prosecuted. Strangely, I'm not the one in the wrong, but the one that needs a hobby!! Or this an example of the society we live in? When you get to meet the parents of a child killed by a speeding, dangerous driver using a mobile phone, then you'd maybe understand. The 17 d*unk drivers I've had stopped, given evidence against who have been banned from driving over the last 30 yrs - was that wrong too? Impatient HGV drivers trying to gain 2 minutes within roadworks cause the most motorway accidents, but you assume I should let it go? Australia, caught tailgating in an HGV is automatic jail-time and should be the same here. 40 tonne lorries don't take prisoners!! Until then.. | |||
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"An AO HGV driver currently under investigation for tailgating less than 2 metres from my car in roadworks at 53mph. Looks like they will terminate him for reckless endangerment. You sound like you get a thrill from this Maybe need a hobby I have a great hobby.. Taking dickheads who put the lives of others at risk of accidents or being killed, off the road. Same with numerous mobile phone users I've had prosecuted. Strangely, I'm not the one in the wrong, but the one that needs a hobby!! Or this an example of the society we live in? When you get to meet the parents of a child killed by a speeding, dangerous driver using a mobile phone, then you'd maybe understand. The 17 d*unk drivers I've had stopped, given evidence against who have been banned from driving over the last 30 yrs - was that wrong too? Impatient HGV drivers trying to gain 2 minutes within roadworks cause the most motorway accidents, but you assume I should let it go? Australia, caught tailgating in an HGV is automatic jail-time and should be the same here. 40 tonne lorries don't take prisoners!! Until then.." You win the most inappropriate username title on Fab | |||
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"What do people think ahould they now be Manatory in newer cars , i have just had the pleasure off using mine to settle a motoring claim so me personnally are all in for them Regularly send footage to police using operation Snap. Many have had driver training courses, others warned and a few convictions. Roads are unruly due to lack of policing." There’s was a German dictator who would have loved you ….. | |||
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"An AO HGV driver currently under investigation for tailgating less than 2 metres from my car in roadworks at 53mph. Looks like they will terminate him for reckless endangerment. You sound like you get a thrill from this Maybe need a hobby" Nah that lorry driver is a twat. I’ve had similar through roadworks right up the arse. If I had to break suddenly they’d have no chance of stopping. Kudos to him for reporting | |||
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"An AO HGV driver currently under investigation for tailgating less than 2 metres from my car in roadworks at 53mph. Looks like they will terminate him for reckless endangerment. You sound like you get a thrill from this Maybe need a hobby I have a great hobby.. Taking dickheads who put the lives of others at risk of accidents or being killed, off the road. Same with numerous mobile phone users I've had prosecuted. Strangely, I'm not the one in the wrong, but the one that needs a hobby!! Or this an example of the society we live in? When you get to meet the parents of a child killed by a speeding, dangerous driver using a mobile phone, then you'd maybe understand. The 17 d*unk drivers I've had stopped, given evidence against who have been banned from driving over the last 30 yrs - was that wrong too? Impatient HGV drivers trying to gain 2 minutes within roadworks cause the most motorway accidents, but you assume I should let it go? Australia, caught tailgating in an HGV is automatic jail-time and should be the same here. 40 tonne lorries don't take prisoners!! Until then.." So join the police and be professional about it. For now you're a vigilante with an inflated ego. | |||
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"An AO HGV driver currently under investigation for tailgating less than 2 metres from my car in roadworks at 53mph. Looks like they will terminate him for reckless endangerment. You sound like you get a thrill from this Maybe need a hobby Nah that lorry driver is a twat. I’ve had similar through roadworks right up the arse. If I had to break suddenly they’d have no chance of stopping. Kudos to him for reporting " *brake | |||
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"An AO HGV driver currently under investigation for tailgating less than 2 metres from my car in roadworks at 53mph. Looks like they will terminate him for reckless endangerment. You sound like you get a thrill from this Maybe need a hobby Nah that lorry driver is a twat. I’ve had similar through roadworks right up the arse. If I had to break suddenly they’d have no chance of stopping. Kudos to him for reporting *brake " My issue with his type is they don't do it for altruistic reasons. They do it out of ego and fuck-you I am a king on the road. He boasted above about loving the £500 a pop.... not thinking about saving lives there, was he ? | |||
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"Watching people die in motorway wrecks is fun for you?" Not at all. Silly thing to ask. | |||
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"If someone does the right thing for the wrong reasons, it's still the right thing. Being a victim of a d*unk driver, I know I'd far rather some vigilante had slashed his tyres in the pub car park then let him run me down, on a visceral reaction level at least. But I have no problem with whistleblowing on the whole. Many many things have been righted through someone doing something that was someone else's responsibility, and if someone occasionally makes it a mission to be that person, well as long as they don't break the law themselves, they're entitles to go about it and be as smug or pious as they want" Whistleblowing is a valuable tool in dealing with wrongdoing that I fully support. It's hard to stomach the spiteful glee in some attitudes though. Be more useful, for one example, standing in or outside a pub and being proactive before anyone even got behind the wheel of a car to drive d*unk than watching the car crash to get their dosh and a foreign holiday. | |||
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"People knowing that they may get reported, drive more carefully. Win, win for all." And how would they even know.... do you have bumper stickers or special lights to tell them? The police are tasked with these responsibilities not randoms | |||
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"But then.. There was the young kid in a VW Golf last Friday night who tried to drag race me at the lights to go on to try running me off the road, before slamming into the back of a car stopped, turning right at a set of lights. Roads were wet, he was speeding and driving recklessly. In court in December." I have NEVER in my 30 odd years of driving encountered even a fraction of the things you have mentioned in this thread alone. Bit hard to believe tbh | |||
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"People knowing that they may get reported, drive more carefully. Win, win for all." For sure! X | |||
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" Regularly send footage to police using operation Snap. Many have had driver training courses, others warned and a few convictions. Roads are unruly due to lack of policing. Amd this is why they shouldn't be mandatory, as the police would be overwhelmed with footage from do-gooders reporting every incident possible." That's why they should be mandatory. Too many shite drivers, cyclists and idiots on the road. | |||
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"If you have one, use it. That is what it’s for after all. If someone was doing something dangerous near me I would happily report it, even if it just makes that person think twice about doing it again, it’s got to be worth it. " Whay.. absolutely, as next time they might seriously hurt someone. Years ago, roads were safer as most dangerous, selfish idiots had racked up enough points to be taken off the roads. Mate was moaning that he got caught by speed trap, if he hadn’t been speeding his life would be stress-free. I have been caught myself, took the punishment for it but only after an excellent Driver Awareness course did I realise, its wrong and dangerous! Is it worth killing someone or yourself for 5 mins? | |||
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"Watching people die in motorway wrecks is fun for you?" Keep it up funboy. I do the same, sooner or later people may just drive safer. | |||
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"I’ve recently put one in with a rear view camera too, two close shaves in recent months from other idiots convinced me! And I felt all manly hardwiring it in to the car myself too, I’m usually rubbish at that sort of thing! " excellent mate i felt the same | |||
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"They are a waste of time. A woman pulled out on me, hit my car causing £7000 worth of damage and drove off at speed without stopping. Whole thing caught on my HD dashcam. The police done nothing when I went to my local station with the video. Under section 170 of the road traffic act it clearly says hitting anything and driving off is a criminal prosecutable offence. Clearly not. I even emailed the video to Surrey's chief of police at Guildford police HQ. No response. If you hit a car just drive off as you'll get away with it. That is what I intend to do in the future. Police are a waste of space and a waste of the tax payers money. " maybe if u had made a call to ur car insurance company they might have been able to do something with ur footage . | |||
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" Years ago, roads were safer as most dangerous, selfish idiots had racked up enough points to be taken off the roads. " A quick google of “uk road traffic death trends” brings up the Reported Road Casualties page on Wikipedia which has a lovely big graph showing road deaths of 9,169 in 1941 and 7,985 in 1966 and then an inexorably decline in road deaths until it plateaus in the last few years at about 1,800 a year. Roads were clearly a LOT more dangerous in the past despite far fewer miles being driven then. This current time is pretty much the safest roads have ever been. | |||
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" Years ago, roads were safer as most dangerous, selfish idiots had racked up enough points to be taken off the roads. A quick google of “uk road traffic death trends” brings up the Reported Road Casualties page on Wikipedia which has a lovely big graph showing road deaths of 9,169 in 1941 and 7,985 in 1966 and then an inexorably decline in road deaths until it plateaus in the last few years at about 1,800 a year. Roads were clearly a LOT more dangerous in the past despite far fewer miles being driven then. This current time is pretty much the safest roads have ever been." But that's possibly down to safer cars surely? Less deaths because we now have to wear seat belts, vehicles are manufactured with safety in mind and have to pass stringent crash tests, and most cars have airbags and other safety measures. Not necessarily down to safer roads or any change in driving standards. If you give people a greater chance of surviving a crash they're less likely to die. A | |||
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" Years ago, roads were safer as most dangerous, selfish idiots had racked up enough points to be taken off the roads. A quick google of “uk road traffic death trends” brings up the Reported Road Casualties page on Wikipedia which has a lovely big graph showing road deaths of 9,169 in 1941 and 7,985 in 1966 and then an inexorably decline in road deaths until it plateaus in the last few years at about 1,800 a year. Roads were clearly a LOT more dangerous in the past despite far fewer miles being driven then. This current time is pretty much the safest roads have ever been." But its still over 4 deaths a day. What about those sustaining life changing injuries? How have those figures changed? | |||
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"Cyclists use them so perhaps it is time to make it compulsory for cyclists to use cycle lanes " Not seeing the logic there? | |||
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"People knowing that they may get reported, drive more carefully. Win, win for all. And how would they even know.... do you have bumper stickers or special lights to tell them? The police are tasked with these responsibilities not randoms" If you can't work it out.. Drive on the assumption that if you drive like a loon, there is a good chance someone might report you. Keep this in mind and you'll not go wrong. So, rather than driving like an idiot, is curtesy, respect, care and consideration the best policy? I was told many years ago by a friendly traffic cop that had stopped me. "Having a driver's licence is a privilege, NOT a right". Think about that for a while.. then decide how you should be driving as it means your licence can be revoked. | |||
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"People knowing that they may get reported, drive more carefully. Win, win for all. And how would they even know.... do you have bumper stickers or special lights to tell them? The police are tasked with these responsibilities not randoms If you can't work it out.. Drive on the assumption that if you drive like a loon, there is a good chance someone might report you. Keep this in mind and you'll not go wrong. So, rather than driving like an idiot, is curtesy, respect, care and consideration the best policy? I was told many years ago by a friendly traffic cop that had stopped me. "Having a driver's licence is a privilege, NOT a right". Think about that for a while.. then decide how you should be driving as it means your licence can be revoked. " Well if you can't work it out.... I was being facetious | |||
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"But then.. There was the young kid in a VW Golf last Friday night who tried to drag race me at the lights to go on to try running me off the road, before slamming into the back of a car stopped, turning right at a set of lights. Roads were wet, he was speeding and driving recklessly. In court in December." That’s impressive. The police have investigated an offence, applied to the cps, and got a court date in 5 days, two of which were the weekend? | |||
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"But then.. There was the young kid in a VW Golf last Friday night who tried to drag race me at the lights to go on to try running me off the road, before slamming into the back of a car stopped, turning right at a set of lights. Roads were wet, he was speeding and driving recklessly. In court in December. That’s impressive. The police have investigated an offence, applied to the cps, and got a court date in 5 days, two of which were the weekend? " It'll be because of his dashcam | |||
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"An AO HGV driver currently under investigation for tailgating less than 2 metres from my car in roadworks at 53mph. Looks like they will terminate him for reckless endangerment." That's a bit close for that speed and that braking distance I hate people who tailgate at higher speeds. I'm always cautious not to do it myself. You just don't know what could happen so you need to have that braking distance. | |||
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"But then.. There was the young kid in a VW Golf last Friday night who tried to drag race me at the lights to go on to try running me off the road, before slamming into the back of a car stopped, turning right at a set of lights. Roads were wet, he was speeding and driving recklessly. In court in December. I have NEVER in my 30 odd years of driving encountered even a fraction of the things you have mentioned in this thread alone. Bit hard to believe tbh" Believe what you want.. Get yourself on a Drivers Awareness course and stay safe.. | |||
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"Roads are unruly due to lack of policing." Or is due to people who once they have passed their "test" think that they can drive responsibly? | |||
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"Def need to look into this and getting one fitted. " Me too | |||
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"An AO HGV driver currently under investigation for tailgating less than 2 metres from my car in roadworks at 53mph. Looks like they will terminate him for reckless endangerment." may i ask why YOU were speeding through the road works at 53 mph ? | |||
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"Good for filming a good dogging session I hear" Or stops people from going. | |||
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"They are a waste of time. A woman pulled out on me, hit my car causing £7000 worth of damage and drove off at speed without stopping. Whole thing caught on my HD dashcam. The police done nothing when I went to my local station with the video. Under section 170 of the road traffic act it clearly says hitting anything and driving off is a criminal prosecutable offence. Clearly not. I even emailed the video to Surrey's chief of police at Guildford police HQ. No response. If you hit a car just drive off as you'll get away with it. That is what I intend to do in the future. Police are a waste of space and a waste of the tax payers money. maybe if u had made a call to ur car insurance company they might have been able to do something with ur footage . " I obviously went to my insurance company. The woman denied it, once her insurance received the footage it was game over for her, instantly went in my favour. My point was the police are useless and do nothing with the footage. | |||
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" Years ago, roads were safer as most dangerous, selfish idiots had racked up enough points to be taken off the roads. A quick google of “uk road traffic death trends” brings up the Reported Road Casualties page on Wikipedia which has a lovely big graph showing road deaths of 9,169 in 1941 and 7,985 in 1966 and then an inexorably decline in road deaths until it plateaus in the last few years at about 1,800 a year. Roads were clearly a LOT more dangerous in the past despite far fewer miles being driven then. This current time is pretty much the safest roads have ever been. But that's possibly down to safer cars surely? Less deaths because we now have to wear seat belts, vehicles are manufactured with safety in mind and have to pass stringent crash tests, and most cars have airbags and other safety measures. Not necessarily down to safer roads or any change in driving standards. If you give people a greater chance of surviving a crash they're less likely to die. A" It’s down to lots of things. But I think most people would agree that if you have many fewer deaths now then that would indicate roads were not safer previously. | |||
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"An AO HGV driver currently under investigation for tailgating less than 2 metres from my car in roadworks at 53mph. Looks like they will terminate him for reckless endangerment.may i ask why YOU were speeding through the road works at 53 mph ?" Get your hands on a GPS, phone, raw GPS data, Google maps. or marine handheld. Drive at 53mph on the car dash. The very accurate GPS speed will be 50mph. Vehicle speedso's always read slightly high. Some drive at 50mph on the dash through roadworks, they are actually doing 47-48, which invites aggressive HGV driving and tailgating. So, the 53mph is the cars speedo reading, not the actual GPS speed. It is also within the 10% allowance. This is why HGV's steam through roadworks at 'GPS' speeds of 54mph, which on a speedo is nearing 58mph. They drive as close to avoiding a ticket at the cost of safety to others. The speed I was travelling should have meant the AO driver shouldn't have been gaining on me.. | |||
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"They are a waste of time. A woman pulled out on me, hit my car causing £7000 worth of damage and drove off at speed without stopping. Whole thing caught on my HD dashcam. The police done nothing when I went to my local station with the video. Under section 170 of the road traffic act it clearly says hitting anything and driving off is a criminal prosecutable offence. Clearly not. I even emailed the video to Surrey's chief of police at Guildford police HQ. No response. If you hit a car just drive off as you'll get away with it. That is what I intend to do in the future. Police are a waste of space and a waste of the tax payers money. maybe if u had made a call to ur car insurance company they might have been able to do something with ur footage . I obviously went to my insurance company. The woman denied it, once her insurance received the footage it was game over for her, instantly went in my favour. My point was the police are useless and do nothing with the footage." Apparently it’s only an offence to leave if there is injury involved so I’m told | |||
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"An AO HGV driver currently under investigation for tailgating less than 2 metres from my car in roadworks at 53mph. Looks like they will terminate him for reckless endangerment.may i ask why YOU were speeding through the road works at 53 mph ? Get your hands on a GPS, phone, raw GPS data, Google maps. or marine handheld. Drive at 53mph on the car dash. The very accurate GPS speed will be 50mph. Vehicle speedso's always read slightly high. Some drive at 50mph on the dash through roadworks, they are actually doing 47-48, which invites aggressive HGV driving and tailgating. So, the 53mph is the cars speedo reading, not the actual GPS speed. It is also within the 10% allowance. This is why HGV's steam through roadworks at 'GPS' speeds of 54mph, which on a speedo is nearing 58mph. They drive as close to avoiding a ticket at the cost of safety to others. The speed I was travelling should have meant the AO driver shouldn't have been gaining on me.." An hgv doing 56 mph on his dash is actually 60 on a car | |||
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"An AO HGV driver currently under investigation for tailgating less than 2 metres from my car in roadworks at 53mph. Looks like they will terminate him for reckless endangerment.may i ask why YOU were speeding through the road works at 53 mph ? Get your hands on a GPS, phone, raw GPS data, Google maps. or marine handheld. Drive at 53mph on the car dash. The very accurate GPS speed will be 50mph. Vehicle speedso's always read slightly high. Some drive at 50mph on the dash through roadworks, they are actually doing 47-48, which invites aggressive HGV driving and tailgating. So, the 53mph is the cars speedo reading, not the actual GPS speed. It is also within the 10% allowance. This is why HGV's steam through roadworks at 'GPS' speeds of 54mph, which on a speedo is nearing 58mph. They drive as close to avoiding a ticket at the cost of safety to others. The speed I was travelling should have meant the AO driver shouldn't have been gaining on me.." A gps is not calibrated whereas the hgv tacho/speedo is Callobrated regularly. | |||
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"An AO HGV driver currently under investigation for tailgating less than 2 metres from my car in roadworks at 53mph. Looks like they will terminate him for reckless endangerment.may i ask why YOU were speeding through the road works at 53 mph ?" Good question | |||
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"And that gives them the right to tailgate and drive aggressively with headlights flashing and horns blaring through roadworks? Tacho, dashboard speed readings are subject to variables such as tyre wear, remoulds and therefore may not be accurate. I know of an Irish driver who is a friend that deliberately puts slightly undersized tyres on when the vehicle is being calibrated so that the actual road speed is higher than the tacho speed once calibration is completed. This is why you often see private owners, Irish and foreign vehicles driving faster than the restrictor should allow. He told me a group of them 'share' a set of "calibration wheels". This is to travel quicker than the speedo/tacho is showing. Before you dismiss, go onto a tyre retailer website and see alternatives when changing wheel and profile size on your car. They'll tell you the effect on indicated speed. Changing the circumference by an inch, has significant effect on speedo reading when you account for the wheels RPM. Every 1000 revolutions, is a 83 feet further. Cars with new tyres always travel quicker at inducated speed than those worn out. Hence allowance in the speedo. So, GPS is the most accurate in comparison." I didn’t suggest anything of the sort. You are attempting to put words in my mouth. You know lorry drivers who blatantly Flor the law. I do hope you gave reported them to the relevant authorities as well. Tyre wear is allowed for in the tolerance on the calibration of an hgv. You see foreign or illegal vehicles travelling faster than limiters because the know how to tamper with the system and trick the limiter. When caught by VOSA, these vehicles are locked off and go nowhere until fixed. The drivers £ operators are prosecuted accordingly. | |||
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"They are a waste of time. A woman pulled out on me, hit my car causing £7000 worth of damage and drove off at speed without stopping. Whole thing caught on my HD dashcam. The police done nothing when I went to my local station with the video. Under section 170 of the road traffic act it clearly says hitting anything and driving off is a criminal prosecutable offence. Clearly not. I even emailed the video to Surrey's chief of police at Guildford police HQ. No response. If you hit a car just drive off as you'll get away with it. That is what I intend to do in the future. Police are a waste of space and a waste of the tax payers money. maybe if u had made a call to ur car insurance company they might have been able to do something with ur footage . I obviously went to my insurance company. The woman denied it, once her insurance received the footage it was game over for her, instantly went in my favour. My point was the police are useless and do nothing with the footage. Apparently it’s only an offence to leave if there is injury involved so I’m told" Please go read section 170 of the road traffic act. You are totally wrong. If you hit a car, any property or an animal or a person, you are required to stop and leave details or report the incident to the police regardless of injury. Failure to do so is listed as a criminal and prosecutable offence. | |||
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"Apparently it’s only an offence to leave if there is injury involved so I’m told" Not true, it is an offence to leave the scene of a collision without exchanging details. If an injury has occurred then the police must be informed. We had someone clip our car and drive off, police found them and they were charged with fleeing the scene of an incident. | |||
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"Apparently it’s only an offence to leave if there is injury involved so I’m told Not true, it is an offence to leave the scene of a collision without exchanging details. If an injury has occurred then the police must be informed. We had someone clip our car and drive off, police found them and they were charged with fleeing the scene of an incident. " It's an interesting one. I was knocked off my bike by a motorist who failed to stop but got caught in traffic and I chased him down. I suspect he was d*unk but I at least got his details, he then drove off again before police arrived. Apparently the exchange I had with him meant he was not guilty of failure to stop though... I'd only suffered minor injuries, bruises and fractured ribs thankfully. | |||
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" It's an interesting one. I was knocked off my bike by a motorist who failed to stop but got caught in traffic and I chased him down. I suspect he was d*unk but I at least got his details, he then drove off again before police arrived. Apparently the exchange I had with him meant he was not guilty of failure to stop though... " That is weird. So technically you can have an “incident” - wind the window down, exchange expletives and then drive off? It might fit the letter of the law but doesn’t seem to be in the spirit of it | |||
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" It's an interesting one. I was knocked off my bike by a motorist who failed to stop but got caught in traffic and I chased him down. I suspect he was d*unk but I at least got his details, he then drove off again before police arrived. Apparently the exchange I had with him meant he was not guilty of failure to stop though... That is weird. So technically you can have an “incident” - wind the window down, exchange expletives and then drive off? It might fit the letter of the law but doesn’t seem to be in the spirit of it " You have to exchange details, not expletives… | |||
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"And that gives them the right to tailgate and drive aggressively with headlights flashing and horns blaring through roadworks? Tacho, dashboard speed readings are subject to variables such as tyre wear, remoulds and therefore may not be accurate. I know of an Irish driver who is a friend that deliberately puts slightly undersized tyres on when the vehicle is being calibrated so that the actual road speed is higher than the tacho speed once calibration is completed. This is why you often see private owners, Irish and foreign vehicles driving faster than the restrictor should allow. He told me a group of them 'share' a set of "calibration wheels". This is to travel quicker than the speedo/tacho is showing. Before you dismiss, go onto a tyre retailer website and see alternatives when changing wheel and profile size on your car. They'll tell you the effect on indicated speed. Changing the circumference by an inch, has significant effect on speedo reading when you account for the wheels RPM. Every 1000 revolutions, is a 83 feet further. Cars with new tyres always travel quicker at inducated speed than those worn out. Hence allowance in the speedo. So, GPS is the most accurate in comparison. I didn’t suggest anything of the sort. You are attempting to put words in my mouth. You know lorry drivers who blatantly Flor the law. I do hope you gave reported them to the relevant authorities as well. Tyre wear is allowed for in the tolerance on the calibration of an hgv. You see foreign or illegal vehicles travelling faster than limiters because the know how to tamper with the system and trick the limiter. When caught by VOSA, these vehicles are locked off and go nowhere until fixed. The drivers £ operators are prosecuted accordingly. " Before you jump to conclusions and throw comments. I did email transport organisations in Northern and Southern Ireland and the responses I received were dismissive. What more can I do? DVSA, police and DVLA are not interested in reports of MOT failures driving around, fake number plates, bald tyres, blacked out windows and many other offences. According to Lancashire police, no offence is committed when shining laser pens into the eyes of other drivers. So, don't assume.. | |||
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" It's an interesting one. I was knocked off my bike by a motorist who failed to stop but got caught in traffic and I chased him down. I suspect he was d*unk but I at least got his details, he then drove off again before police arrived. Apparently the exchange I had with him meant he was not guilty of failure to stop though... That is weird. So technically you can have an “incident” - wind the window down, exchange expletives and then drive off? It might fit the letter of the law but doesn’t seem to be in the spirit of it You have to exchange details, not expletives… " Oh he exchanged expletives with me! But yes, it's in the letter of the law bit mot the spirit. I should add he heard me call 999 and was fully aware the police had told him to stay at the scene. Of course by the time the policevrurned up at his door he'd had a drink to calm his nerves but had definitely been sober driving. To this day it astounds me thst leaving the scene twice was not seen as wrong. Mind you they also didn't think driving in to the back of a stationary cyclist constituted careless driving... | |||
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"In response to comment above, it is down to safer, more intelligent cars. This is why tailgating, especially by HGVs is so damned dangerous. New vehicles are fitted with Automatic collision avoidance and braking systems, designed to prevent accidents. This means, without warning a vehicle can brake hard, suddenly and without warning should it detect an event it believes could lead to an accident. I never appreciated this and possible issues with tailgating until I took delivery of a new car last month. While driving, it will bleep to warn me of vehicles that could cause me a problem or physically brake the car if it believes a crash could occur. This braking is triggered by a vehicle pulling in or out too close, a vehicle braking hard in front and other scenarios. It happens so quick, I'll not even have a chance to lift my foot off the gas pedal and the car is almost stopped. On the day I had the issue with the AO truck last Tuesday, I earlier witnessed an accident on the M6 near Stafford. A truck was tailgating a car very close through roadworks. Without warning a Mercedes van pulled out from the inside lane in front of her car. It was only later, I realised what more than likely happened as similar happened to me. Her car automatically braked hard to avoid a collision with the van, however the HGV too close behind stoved straight into her car crushing and spinning it around 6 times down the side until the truck stopped. The reality is, without warning, the van pulled in front of her causing her car (not her) to brake and the idiot driving the truck behind didn't stand a chance to react. This is the reason I am pursuing the dangerously tailgating driver behind me. What if a vehickr on my inside pulled into my lane and the car slammed the brakes on with a 40 tonne lorry less than 2 metres from my car at 53mph? Why should occupants be put at risk from tailgate who are selfish and inconsiderate?" And this clearly didn't happen either.... | |||
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"But then.. There was the young kid in a VW Golf last Friday night who tried to drag race me at the lights to go on to try running me off the road, before slamming into the back of a car stopped, turning right at a set of lights. Roads were wet, he was speeding and driving recklessly. In court in December. I have NEVER in my 30 odd years of driving encountered even a fraction of the things you have mentioned in this thread alone. Bit hard to believe tbh" just a little. I also reported something and was told. And I quote " we can't take random photo / video footage" . | |||
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"But then.. There was the young kid in a VW Golf last Friday night who tried to drag race me at the lights to go on to try running me off the road, before slamming into the back of a car stopped, turning right at a set of lights. Roads were wet, he was speeding and driving recklessly. In court in December. I have NEVER in my 30 odd years of driving encountered even a fraction of the things you have mentioned in this thread alone. Bit hard to believe tbh just a little. I also reported something and was told. And I quote " we can't take random photo / video footage" ." Most forces have online portals to upload footage too now, I'm really disappointed that there are forces who still refuse it | |||
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"But then.. There was the young kid in a VW Golf last Friday night who tried to drag race me at the lights to go on to try running me off the road, before slamming into the back of a car stopped, turning right at a set of lights. Roads were wet, he was speeding and driving recklessly. In court in December. I have NEVER in my 30 odd years of driving encountered even a fraction of the things you have mentioned in this thread alone. Bit hard to believe tbh just a little. I also reported something and was told. And I quote " we can't take random photo / video footage" ." Exactly, there's a reason lots of speeding tickets get cancelled if the device used can't be proven to have been calibrated to specifications which are set out in law | |||
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"I am aware of at least 25 local taxis driving around with Off-Road illegally modified headlights. I spoke to taxi licensing as if involved in an accident, their insurance is likely to be void. Response I got, "taxis and private hire vehicles are taken for MOT every 6 months and if they pass, then the licence remains valid - we dont take reports from the public between these times". I spoke to a Councillor to get this changed 11 months ago, no response. I know they change the headlights back to halogen the day of the test for it to pass then put back on again. So, I object to being accused of complacency as I have done my bit. If agencies refuse to listen then, who am I?" You seem to be the living embodiment of 'busy' | |||
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"And that gives them the right to tailgate and drive aggressively with headlights flashing and horns blaring through roadworks? Tacho, dashboard speed readings are subject to variables such as tyre wear, remoulds and therefore may not be accurate. I know of an Irish driver who is a friend that deliberately puts slightly undersized tyres on when the vehicle is being calibrated so that the actual road speed is higher than the tacho speed once calibration is completed. This is why you often see private owners, Irish and foreign vehicles driving faster than the restrictor should allow. He told me a group of them 'share' a set of "calibration wheels". This is to travel quicker than the speedo/tacho is showing. Before you dismiss, go onto a tyre retailer website and see alternatives when changing wheel and profile size on your car. They'll tell you the effect on indicated speed. Changing the circumference by an inch, has significant effect on speedo reading when you account for the wheels RPM. Every 1000 revolutions, is a 83 feet further. Cars with new tyres always travel quicker at inducated speed than those worn out. Hence allowance in the speedo. So, GPS is the most accurate in comparison. I didn’t suggest anything of the sort. You are attempting to put words in my mouth. You know lorry drivers who blatantly Flor the law. I do hope you gave reported them to the relevant authorities as well. Tyre wear is allowed for in the tolerance on the calibration of an hgv. You see foreign or illegal vehicles travelling faster than limiters because the know how to tamper with the system and trick the limiter. When caught by VOSA, these vehicles are locked off and go nowhere until fixed. The drivers £ operators are prosecuted accordingly. Before you jump to conclusions and throw comments. I did email transport organisations in Northern and Southern Ireland and the responses I received were dismissive. What more can I do? DVSA, police and DVLA are not interested in reports of MOT failures driving around, fake number plates, bald tyres, blacked out windows and many other offences. According to Lancashire police, no offence is committed when shining laser pens into the eyes of other drivers. So, don't assume.." What exactly did I assume? | |||
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"And that gives them the right to tailgate and drive aggressively with headlights flashing and horns blaring through roadworks? Tacho, dashboard speed readings are subject to variables such as tyre wear, remoulds and therefore may not be accurate. I know of an Irish driver who is a friend that deliberately puts slightly undersized tyres on when the vehicle is being calibrated so that the actual road speed is higher than the tacho speed once calibration is completed. This is why you often see private owners, Irish and foreign vehicles driving faster than the restrictor should allow. He told me a group of them 'share' a set of "calibration wheels". This is to travel quicker than the speedo/tacho is showing. Before you dismiss, go onto a tyre retailer website and see alternatives when changing wheel and profile size on your car. They'll tell you the effect on indicated speed. Changing the circumference by an inch, has significant effect on speedo reading when you account for the wheels RPM. Every 1000 revolutions, is a 83 feet further. Cars with new tyres always travel quicker at inducated speed than those worn out. Hence allowance in the speedo. So, GPS is the most accurate in comparison." i hardly think that a large multinational company with a huge fleet of trucks is going to bother changing tyres for calibration day to gain a 2mph far from it if anything the limiter for the big boys tend to be set lower than the 56mph requirement .and you still havent answered the question why were you speeding through the road works at 53 mph in your car ? | |||
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"And that gives them the right to tailgate and drive aggressively with headlights flashing and horns blaring through roadworks? Tacho, dashboard speed readings are subject to variables such as tyre wear, remoulds and therefore may not be accurate. I know of an Irish driver who is a friend that deliberately puts slightly undersized tyres on when the vehicle is being calibrated so that the actual road speed is higher than the tacho speed once calibration is completed. This is why you often see private owners, Irish and foreign vehicles driving faster than the restrictor should allow. He told me a group of them 'share' a set of "calibration wheels". This is to travel quicker than the speedo/tacho is showing. Before you dismiss, go onto a tyre retailer website and see alternatives when changing wheel and profile size on your car. They'll tell you the effect on indicated speed. Changing the circumference by an inch, has significant effect on speedo reading when you account for the wheels RPM. Every 1000 revolutions, is a 83 feet further. Cars with new tyres always travel quicker at inducated speed than those worn out. Hence allowance in the speedo. So, GPS is the most accurate in comparison.i hardly think that a large multinational company with a huge fleet of trucks is going to bother changing tyres for calibration day to gain a 2mph far from it if anything the limiter for the big boys tend to be set lower than the 56mph requirement .and you still havent answered the question why were you speeding through the road works at 53 mph in your car ?" Or how a court date can be set within 5 days, 2 of which were a weekend, and all from dash cam footage? | |||
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"And that gives them the right to tailgate and drive aggressively with headlights flashing and horns blaring through roadworks? Tacho, dashboard speed readings are subject to variables such as tyre wear, remoulds and therefore may not be accurate. I know of an Irish driver who is a friend that deliberately puts slightly undersized tyres on when the vehicle is being calibrated so that the actual road speed is higher than the tacho speed once calibration is completed. This is why you often see private owners, Irish and foreign vehicles driving faster than the restrictor should allow. He told me a group of them 'share' a set of "calibration wheels". This is to travel quicker than the speedo/tacho is showing. Before you dismiss, go onto a tyre retailer website and see alternatives when changing wheel and profile size on your car. They'll tell you the effect on indicated speed. Changing the circumference by an inch, has significant effect on speedo reading when you account for the wheels RPM. Every 1000 revolutions, is a 83 feet further. Cars with new tyres always travel quicker at inducated speed than those worn out. Hence allowance in the speedo. So, GPS is the most accurate in comparison.i hardly think that a large multinational company with a huge fleet of trucks is going to bother changing tyres for calibration day to gain a 2mph far from it if anything the limiter for the big boys tend to be set lower than the 56mph requirement .and you still havent answered the question why were you speeding through the road works at 53 mph in your car ?" I think the fictional 10% is his saviour here. | |||
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"Too busy with the new hobby now. Sitting outside local hospital photographing staff leaving with phones glued to their right ears, then send to Operation Snap. Suppose that would be labelled unrighteous too. " Taking photos of nurses leaving work ??? #disturbing | |||
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