FabSwingers.com forum: Is being bi a turn off for straight women?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Hi I love having sex with men and women but is seeing “Bi” on a profile a turn off for women? Is that a sexual health thing? or something else else?

Would love to read opinions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Old homophobic notions that bi/gay men are dirty and can’t control themselves

Consider it a great filter. If she don’t meet bi guys, you’ve done yourself a favour by not meeting a bigot

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Old homophobic notions that bi/gay men are dirty and can’t control themselves

Consider it a great filter. If she don’t meet bi guys, you’ve done yourself a favour by not meeting a bigot "

So if people don’t meet you they’re bigots?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't take it into account. It's just not relevant, like race, if I find someone attractive. Yes, this site is full of biphobia and homophobia sadly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not bigotry, lol! It's a preference. A woman might not like the idea of fucking someone who fucks guys. She might wholeheartedly like the person, though

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

"It's not bigotry, lol! It's a preference. A woman might not like the idea of fucking someone who fucks guys. She might wholeheartedly like the person, though "

What you’ve described is biphobia and is what makes someone a bigot…

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's not biphobia at all. Choosing to not have sex with someone who sleeps with the same sex is not biphobia. It's a choice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's not bigotry, lol! It's a preference. A woman might not like the idea of fucking someone who fucks guys. She might wholeheartedly like the person, though "

Why might she "not like the idea"? What assumptions is that "preference" based on?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hi I love having sex with men and women but is seeing “Bi” on a profile a turn off for women? Is that a sexual health thing? or something else else?

Would love to read opinions."

I used to be one of those women I’m deeply ashamed to say! And yes it was a sexual health thing and yes I realise now that it was bigotry and making assumptions based on sexuality!

I learnt the error of my ways though and I now don’t even pay attention to whether someone is straight or bi! So for me it’s not offputting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If someone is in bed with me they're in bed with me. I don't see how who they've slept with previously has any bearing on what is happening in the present.

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

"That's not biphobia at all. Choosing to not have sex with someone who sleeps with the same sex is not biphobia. It's a choice. "

That’s based on a bigoted attitude.

If it’s a one on one meet, what difference does it make who they’ve slept with before?

It only makes a difference because the person is making assumptions based on that same sex act which is bigotry.

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By *annibal_LickedherMan
over a year ago

The Side of the Mersey

"Old homophobic notions that bi/gay men are dirty and can’t control themselves

Consider it a great filter. If she don’t meet bi guys, you’ve done yourself a favour by not meeting a bigot

So if people don’t meet you they’re bigots?

If it’s because they are homophobic. Yes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"That's not biphobia at all. Choosing to not have sex with someone who sleeps with the same sex is not biphobia. It's a choice.

That’s based on a bigoted attitude.

If it’s a one on one meet, what difference does it make who they’ve slept with before?

It only makes a difference because the person is making assumptions based on that same sex act which is bigotry. "

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By *oo..Woman
over a year ago

Boo's World

It's personal choice at the end of the day it's not something that needs a label attached to it.

Most men I meet are Straight, but that doesn't mean to say I haven't met a Bi guy in the past or even joined in with a MMF scenario......

It's choice!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's not bigotry, lol! It's a preference. A woman might not like the idea of fucking someone who fucks guys. She might wholeheartedly like the person, though

Why might she "not like the idea"? What assumptions is that "preference" based on? "

Spin the question. Does me not liking the idea of sleeping with men or choosing to not watch gay porn make me a homophobe?

These terms and labels, despite the entire site being 'apparently' so open-minded and anti-label, are thrown around so liberally to make people either feel bad, or paint somebody as something they are not.

It's like if you make a choice that does not conform, you get lynched by the mob on here who are trying to blend in and impress. There is NOTHING biphobic about choosing not to sleep with a bi person. It's just a choice.

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

So women have to have sex with people they are not attracted to for fear of being labelled phobic?

I’d say that speaks volumes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"That's not biphobia at all. Choosing to not have sex with someone who sleeps with the same sex is not biphobia. It's a choice.

That’s based on a bigoted attitude.

If it’s a one on one meet, what difference does it make who they’ve slept with before?

It only makes a difference because the person is making assumptions based on that same sex act which is bigotry. "

It's not a fucking prejudice. It's a choice. Honestly you're blurring the lines of what is a really fucking nasty term reserved for nasty people, and someone making a choice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So women have to have sex with people they are not attracted to for fear of being labelled phobic?

I’d say that speaks volumes."

Precisely

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Spin the question. Does me not liking the idea of sleeping with men or choosing to not watch gay porn make me a homophobe?

False equivalency at its best!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's not bigotry, lol! It's a preference. A woman might not like the idea of fucking someone who fucks guys. She might wholeheartedly like the person, though

Why might she "not like the idea"? What assumptions is that "preference" based on?

Spin the question. Does me not liking the idea of sleeping with men or choosing to not watch gay porn make me a homophobe?

I didn't call anyone a homophobe. I asked a question which you haven't actually answered.

A woman who doesn't wish to sleep with a man solely because he also sleeps with men - how is that the same as a man who chooses not to sleep with men? They're totally different scenarios. That's a straw man argument.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So women have to have sex with people they are not attracted to for fear of being labelled phobic?

I’d say that speaks volumes."

No-one has said women have to sleep with anyone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh my days! No wonder there's so many fab straight guys

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By *oeBeansMan
over a year ago

Derby

I hate the way the word "preference" has been bastardised on this website. Some people have taken it to mean total exclusion of certain people and hide behind the word "preference" as shield to their views.

I'm not bi but if I was a woman, I genuinely would see the difference between having sex with someone who is straight and bi if it was a one to one meet. It's just not a factor

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

"So women have to have sex with people they are not attracted to for fear of being labelled phobic?

I’d say that speaks volumes.

No-one has said women have to sleep with anyone.

That’s precisely what’s being implied as if they don’t they’re accused of being bigots.

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By *og-ManMan
over a year ago

somewhere

My opinion people can sleep with who they want based on whatever criteria they choose to pick them.

My other opinion

Dont hide your sexuality to get a shag...be yourself and you'll feel better for it

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

"That's not biphobia at all. Choosing to not have sex with someone who sleeps with the same sex is not biphobia. It's a choice.

That’s based on a bigoted attitude.

If it’s a one on one meet, what difference does it make who they’ve slept with before?

It only makes a difference because the person is making assumptions based on that same sex act which is bigotry.

It's not a fucking prejudice. It's a choice. Honestly you're blurring the lines of what is a really fucking nasty term reserved for nasty people, and someone making a choice "

You’re making the assumption of value attached. I’m just saying that making a choice based on someone’s sexuality on a one on one situation is bigotry.

A lot of people are bigots, racists and prejudiced. The real issue is that they get defensive and refuse to do anything about it when the attitudes are called out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So women have to have sex with people they are not attracted to for fear of being labelled phobic?

I’d say that speaks volumes.

No-one has said women have to sleep with anyone.

That’s precisely what’s being implied as if they don’t they’re accused of being bigots."

It's a big jump to get to "women have to have sex with people" don't you think?

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

Here we go again haha ..

I'm bi but I'm not in the slightest bit offended if a woman doesn't have sex with bi guys ..

Thats their choice and their body..

Some of my best mates on here don't meet bi guys but are bloody good friends

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

"So women have to have sex with people they are not attracted to for fear of being labelled phobic?

I’d say that speaks volumes."

Straw man.

If the only reason that they don’t want sex with a person is because they’re bisexual, then that’s a bigoted attitude.

If you’re more afraid of being called bigoted than actually being bigoted, then that says a lot about you.

And no. No one has to have sex with anyone

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"So women have to have sex with people they are not attracted to for fear of being labelled phobic?

I’d say that speaks volumes."

No. Not at all.

Everyone is entitled to sleep with who they want.

But if their rationale for not wanting to sleep with a bi man is purely down to a belief that bi men are in some way dirty or in any way different physically to a straight male then yes, that is a case of biphobia, much like someone stating they won't meet all people of of a certain ethnicity is an example of racism.

It's the motivation and reasoning that classifies something as a phobia.

Attraction isn't linked at all.

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

"So women have to have sex with people they are not attracted to for fear of being labelled phobic?

I’d say that speaks volumes.

No-one has said women have to sleep with anyone.

That’s precisely what’s being implied as if they don’t they’re accused of being bigots.

It's a big jump to get to "women have to have sex with people" don't you think? "

Isn’t that not what the subject is about? People choosing who they meet for sex?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So women have to have sex with people they are not attracted to for fear of being labelled phobic?

I’d say that speaks volumes.

No-one has said women have to sleep with anyone.

That’s precisely what’s being implied as if they don’t they’re accused of being bigots."

That's really not what is being said. If a man who is wonderfully attractive and ticks all your boxes reveals he is bi and your attraction to him ceases I think it's safe to say there is a great whacking dose of prejudice at play. Nobody is saying anyone should sleep with someone they're not attracted to.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"It's personal choice at the end of the day it's not something that needs a label attached to it.

Most men I meet are Straight, but that doesn't mean to say I haven't met a Bi guy in the past or even joined in with a MMF scenario......

It's choice! "

Exactly this

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By *oo..Woman
over a year ago

Boo's World

"That's not biphobia at all. Choosing to not have sex with someone who sleeps with the same sex is not biphobia. It's a choice.

That’s based on a bigoted attitude.

If it’s a one on one meet, what difference does it make who they’ve slept with before?

It only makes a difference because the person is making assumptions based on that same sex act which is bigotry.

It's not a fucking prejudice. It's a choice. Honestly you're blurring the lines of what is a really fucking nasty term reserved for nasty people, and someone making a choice

You’re making the assumption of value attached. I’m just saying that making a choice based on someone’s sexuality on a one on one situation is bigotry.

A lot of people are bigots, racists and prejudiced. The real issue is that they get defensive and refuse to do anything about it when the attitudes are called out. "

Absolute nonsense, because someone has a choice you label them as a Bigot.

Maybe people just don't want too, that's perfectly acceptable you know.

Fab at its finest with a mindset of labelling people like this.

Unless everyone agrees with this view then we have to label them for not agreeing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some will like it some will not

But look on the bright side more to choose from

Like me

My primary looking for is woman

But there’s always the alternative guys if the woman aren’t around

So fab becomes mine in a sens hi if woman aren’t biteing

Then I there’s a alternative also means I never need to tip toe around things

For fear off getting stuck on that famous toxic banned list whare you piss one off them off the rest aren’t allowed to talk to you

Only person that’s hurt is them selfs

As hi hoe who cares guys come pump me that’s they loose

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's not bigotry, lol! It's a preference. A woman might not like the idea of fucking someone who fucks guys. She might wholeheartedly like the person, though

What you’ve described is biphobia and is what makes someone a bigot…

Literally this.

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

"So women have to have sex with people they are not attracted to for fear of being labelled phobic?

I’d say that speaks volumes.

No-one has said women have to sleep with anyone.

That’s precisely what’s being implied as if they don’t they’re accused of being bigots.

No, but they are labelled bigots. Because their is an element to that person that they don’t find attractive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Old homophobic notions that bi/gay men are dirty and can’t control themselves

Consider it a great filter. If she don’t meet bi guys, you’ve done yourself a favour by not meeting a bigot "

This too

Reasons for not meeting bi people are almost always rooted in biphobic/ homophobic myths.

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By *ellhungvweMan
over a year ago

Cheltenham

"It's not bigotry, lol! It's a preference. A woman might not like the idea of fucking someone who fucks guys. She might wholeheartedly like the person, though

What you’ve described is biphobia and is what makes someone a bigot…

A phobia is a _debilitating_ fear of something. Labelling things as phobias (transphobia, biphobia, whatever phobia) and then equating it to bigotry demeans the word phobia.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So women have to have sex with people they are not attracted to for fear of being labelled phobic?

I’d say that speaks volumes.

No-one has said women have to sleep with anyone.

That’s precisely what’s being implied as if they don’t they’re accused of being bigots.

No, but they are labelled bigots. Because their is an element to that person that they don’t find attractive.

How can you not be attracted to the fact that someone *also* sleeps with someone of the same sex?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So women have to have sex with people they are not attracted to for fear of being labelled phobic?

I’d say that speaks volumes.

No-one has said women have to sleep with anyone.

That’s precisely what’s being implied as if they don’t they’re accused of being bigots.

No, but they are labelled bigots. Because their is an element to that person that they don’t find attractive.

So close...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's not bigotry, lol! It's a preference. A woman might not like the idea of fucking someone who fucks guys. She might wholeheartedly like the person, though

What you’ve described is biphobia and is what makes someone a bigot…

A phobia is a _debilitating_ fear of something. Labelling things as phobias (transphobia, biphobia, whatever phobia) and then equating it to bigotry demeans the word phobia. "

No because transphobia, biphobia or homophobia are not defined of fears of sexuality are they?

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By *ophie199Couple
over a year ago

Leeds

I don’t even look at their preference it’s all about if we wanna play/fuck each other

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By *elloWoman
over a year ago

alpha centauri

I don't class myself as straight but I am a women who loves bi-men, a 3some with 2 bi-guys is so much fun.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't class myself as straight but I am a women who loves bi-men, a 3some with 2 bi-guys is so much fun.

Oh it so is!

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

"So women have to have sex with people they are not attracted to for fear of being labelled phobic?

I’d say that speaks volumes.

No-one has said women have to sleep with anyone.

That’s precisely what’s being implied as if they don’t they’re accused of being bigots.

No, but they are labelled bigots. Because their is an element to that person that they don’t find attractive.

They’re not labelled bigots, they literally are.

I’m sorry that you don’t like the term or calling people that but it’s what it is

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By *an4funMan
over a year ago

london

Official dictionary definition, which is what we should adhere to rather than our own definition of words:

Bigot: a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic towards a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.

Hope that clears things up for some...I shan't be holding my breath

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

"It's not bigotry, lol! It's a preference. A woman might not like the idea of fucking someone who fucks guys. She might wholeheartedly like the person, though

What you’ve described is biphobia and is what makes someone a bigot…

A phobia is a _debilitating_ fear of something. Labelling things as phobias (transphobia, biphobia, whatever phobia) and then equating it to bigotry demeans the word phobia. "

The etymology of words has nothing to do with anything.

Look at Television.

Words mean different things from the sum of their parts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Strewth. This fucking place and your labels.

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

"I don't class myself as straight but I am a women who loves bi-men, a 3some with 2 bi-guys is so much fun.

Oh it so is!

Are we actually talking about the OP?

They really are!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s a little weird to be about to have sex with a man, then he says he has had sex with a man before, and suddenly your put off

If a woman tells me she’s slept with a lot of men and I’m put off by that, it’s slut shaming

If she’s had sex with a Black msn and suddenly I don’t want her, is that racist?

I dunno. It just feels weird to put so much thought into peoples sexual past outside of obviously staying safe etc

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

"Strewth. This fucking place and your labels. "

. Like a different planet isn’t it. Before I even looked at this thread I knew exactly who’d be on here throwing their name calling about. I wasn’t wrong.

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By *RANDMRSJAECouple
over a year ago

chester

Oh my days

I’m not a bigot, neither is my husband; our preference is straight men and I’m comfortable with that. It’s not a reflection of our characters.

In our experience of being contacted by bi guys, they almost always ask if there’s any chance of a dabble with Mr too. We just prefer to avoid any awkwardness if there’s an attempt of sneaky touching.

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By *an4funMan
over a year ago

london

"Strewth. This fucking place and your labels.

. Like a different planet isn’t it. Before I even looked at this thread I knew exactly who’d be on here throwing their name calling about. I wasn’t wrong. "

Yep. The same old bigots

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No one owes anyone any explanation on who they choose to have sex with. If others make assumptions about their choices I feel that says more about their narrow world view, or they can't handle rejection.

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By *elloWoman
over a year ago

alpha centauri

"Oh my days

I’m not a bigot, neither is my husband; our preference is straight men and I’m comfortable with that. It’s not a reflection of our characters.

Wow

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

"So women have to have sex with people they are not attracted to for fear of being labelled phobic?

I’d say that speaks volumes.

No-one has said women have to sleep with anyone.

That’s precisely what’s being implied as if they don’t they’re accused of being bigots.

No, but they are labelled bigots. Because their is an element to that person that they don’t find attractive.

They’re not labelled bigots, they literally are.

I’m sorry that you don’t like the term or calling people that but it’s what it is"

Classic case of gas lighting.

if a person chose not to meet someone who was into watersports or S&M, would that make them a bigot?

Some people are just not turned on by people who have same sexual relationships and don’t want to meet them. Calling them names and labelling them bigots just sounds desperate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So women have to have sex with people they are not attracted to for fear of being labelled phobic?

I’d say that speaks volumes."

Yes, I agree with you entirely; men or women may not want to have sex with me or even like me but it doesn't mean that they are 'transphobic', which is an increasingly ridiculous word used to bully people who don't accept trendy nonsense.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think anyone who might say why they don’t want to would potentially be attacked for their opinion and told they’re wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So women have to have sex with people they are not attracted to for fear of being labelled phobic?

I’d say that speaks volumes.

No-one has said women have to sleep with anyone.

That’s precisely what’s being implied as if they don’t they’re accused of being bigots.

No, but they are labelled bigots. Because their is an element to that person that they don’t find attractive.

They’re not labelled bigots, they literally are.

I’m sorry that you don’t like the term or calling people that but it’s what it is

Classic case of gas lighting.

if a person chose not to meet someone who was into watersports or S&M, would that make them a bigot?

Some people are just not turned on by people who have same sexual relationships and don’t want to meet them. Calling them names and labelling them bigots just sounds desperate. "

There’s a big difference between, for example, not wanting to play tennis with someone (because you don’t like tennis)

And excluding that person from other things because they plan tennis (without you even involved)

I agree, everyone do what they want. But I still think it’s bigoted and rooted in homophobia

Weirdly enough, it’s usually much older women that have these views in my experience

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

If someone rules out an entire class of people, based on a characteristic/facet/etc, regardless of any other qualities that person may have, then it smacks of bigotry.

It's the equivalent of someone saying, I don't shag anyone brown, Jewish, bi, foreign, even if I find them attractive and would do them like a shot if I hadn't known.

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By *MisschiefxTV/TS
over a year ago

London

This thread...oh boy.

We've got a ton of hang ups about sexuality, masculinity and sexism in our society so good luck navigating this.

Yes it puts some women off. Reasons I've seen boil down to it not being 'manly' or not a 'real man', see also any bollocks about being 'alpha'. The assumption is that sleeping with men is displaying feminity as a man and that is bad because sexism.

If a woman doesn't like bi men then I'm also not interested in them so no personal loss. My preference is bi women anyway, it's a big green flag about sexuality and probably gender identity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This thread...oh boy.

We've got a ton of hang ups about sexuality, masculinity and sexism in our society so good luck navigating this.

If a woman doesn't like bi men then I'm also not interested in them so no personal loss. My preference is bi women anyway, it's a big green flag about sexuality and probably gender identity."

A couple told me they couldn’t trust me to not try shag the mr

As if being Bi means ill fuck any man, consent or not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *MisschiefxTV/TS
over a year ago

London

"This thread...oh boy.

We've got a ton of hang ups about sexuality, masculinity and sexism in our society so good luck navigating this.

If a woman doesn't like bi men then I'm also not interested in them so no personal loss. My preference is bi women anyway, it's a big green flag about sexuality and probably gender identity.

A couple told me they couldn’t trust me to not try shag the mr

As if being Bi means ill fuck any man, consent or not "

Just your everyday homophobia

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's not bigotry, lol! It's a preference. A woman might not like the idea of fucking someone who fucks guys. She might wholeheartedly like the person, though

What you’ve described is biphobia and is what makes someone a bigot…

A phobia is a _debilitating_ fear of something. Labelling things as phobias (transphobia, biphobia, whatever phobia) and then equating it to bigotry demeans the word phobia. "

Quite right, but I fear that we are fighting a losing etymological battle over that!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hi I love having sex with men and women but is seeing “Bi” on a profile a turn off for women? Is that a sexual health thing? or something else else?

Would love to read opinions."

For some women It’s a sexual health thing. For others it might be reasons others have listed above. Any of those reasons someone will come back at them as to why they’re wrong in those opinions though so at the end of the day. At the end of the day choose women who are happy to sleep with you regardless of your sexuality , I’m sure there are plenty of them on here.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Didn’t realise I opened up Pandora’s box.I personally have no hang ups on what women do or don’t do. As they say “it’s a free country” not once has a woman messaged me and then said “oh your bi” in fact it’s been a turn on for them.

Sorry if this thread has upset anyone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No one owes anyone any explanation on who they choose to have sex with. If others make assumptions about their choices I feel that says more about their narrow world view, or they can't handle rejection."

I agree with you.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"It's not bigotry, lol! It's a preference. A woman might not like the idea of fucking someone who fucks guys. She might wholeheartedly like the person, though

What you’ve described is biphobia and is what makes someone a bigot…

A phobia is a _debilitating_ fear of something. Labelling things as phobias (transphobia, biphobia, whatever phobia) and then equating it to bigotry demeans the word phobia. "

I think you have misinterpreted/misappropriated the definitions somewhat. Whilst originally used in a medical context, they have entered wider society and language, with more adapted and specific nuances. Aversion is perhaps a little better than 'fear', which they were often thought of.

We do all have choices and preferences. It's what's behind those that's at stake and has driven this discussion. For some it will be because of bigotry - not all those with bigotry will be in faithful, monogamous relationships.

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By *an4funMan
over a year ago

london

"I think anyone who might say why they don’t want to would potentially be attacked for their opinion and told they’re wrong. "

If their reasons as to why falls under the definition of bigotry then it's simply a fact that they are a bigot. It's really that simple. Just like if someone has blond hair then they can be referred to as blond

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think anyone who might say why they don’t want to would potentially be attacked for their opinion and told they’re wrong.

Is there any reason that wouldn’t fall under bigotry or misinformation? Just wondering. He’s asked the question, I don’t think anyone wants to answer for fear of being attacked for their reasoning. I could say sexual health reasons but I’ll be told I’m wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Didn’t realise I opened up Pandora’s box.I personally have no hang ups on what women do or don’t do. As they say “it’s a free country” not once has a woman messaged me and then said “oh your bi” in fact it’s been a turn on for them.

Sorry if this thread has upset anyone

Well said; nothing to apologise for, each to their own. If gay men choose not to have sex with bisexual men that is their choice too. Some women like men being bisexual, others don't; so what? I must admit that I have never heard of a man not wanting to have sex with a bisexual woman, however, but I think that says more about male sexuality and sexual appetite than a lack of bigotry!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think anyone who might say why they don’t want to would potentially be attacked for their opinion and told they’re wrong.

No one owes anyone their reasons for their sexual choices. Demanding them is classic entitlement and assuming them is classic prejudice (pre judgement).

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By *an4funMan
over a year ago

london

"I think anyone who might say why they don’t want to would potentially be attacked for their opinion and told they’re wrong.

I get that. I don't write someone off based on one character trait. Nobody is perfect.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can’t believe what I’m reading, how can someone be phobic based on their decision not to sleep with someone. Get over yourselves

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"I think anyone who might say why they don’t want to would potentially be attacked for their opinion and told they’re wrong.

No one owes anyone their reasons for their sexual choices. Demanding them is classic entitlement and assuming them is classic prejudice (pre judgement)."

Exactly this .. I won't be made to feel guilty regarding my preferences..

I'm bi but not attracted to trans people .. Am I Transphobic because of this .. No of course not ..

But I'm sure someone will be along to correct me as I clearly know nothing about myself whatsoever

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In.my experience some woman like bi men some.dont like bi men, their choice and we have to both accept it and respect it , as simple as that, no questions no wondering

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire

adjective

having or involving an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something.

"she's phobic about spiders"

Not wanting to sleep with someone over their sexuality doesn’t fit in my opinion.

I don’t meet or sleep with straight guys, that’s a choice not that I have a phobia over them.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"In.my experience some woman like bi men some.dont like bi men, their choice and we have to both accept it and respect it , as simple as that, no questions no wondering

Yes exactly this ..

It really should be that simple

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By * and R cple4Couple
over a year ago

swansea

Everyone is entitled to have a preference .We only meet bi men but that’s purely our dynamics as I enjoy watching my husband have fun with men

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In.my experience some woman like bi men some.dont like bi men, their choice and we have to both accept it and respect it , as simple as that, no questions no wondering

Surely you realise that the sanity, decency, and politeness that you display and suggest will get you nowhere on here! You will be lucky not to be howled down by the mob!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In.my experience some woman like bi men some.dont like bi men, their choice and we have to both accept it and respect it , as simple as that, no questions no wondering

Yes exactly this ..

It really should be that simple

Of course it should be, but what would the self-righteous virtue signalling lynch mob do with themselves then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We only meet bi guys if they say they bi hate it when they say they straight then message saying there bi but don't want people to know

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By *ixieAndHerKingCouple
over a year ago

Debauchery

Are bi women ever turned down by a straight couple? I'm pretty certain they would be, in fact I know of a couple of straight women who would not want a bi woman in bed with them, even to play straight! Being bi myself I totally accept their preference, I don't feel any prejudice from them, it's their choice. Some people feel physically sick at the thought of same sex fucking, and while I don't have the same thought process or agree with their opinions I respect their choice. I wouldn't sleep with someone with a foot fetish ffs! Even if I thought they were the sexiest person ever! Totally unreasonable but my choice!

Cherry x

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"In.my experience some woman like bi men some.dont like bi men, their choice and we have to both accept it and respect it , as simple as that, no questions no wondering

Yes exactly this ..

It really should be that simple

Of course it should be, but what would the self-righteous virtue signalling lynch mob do with themselves then? "

Best not say haha

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
over a year ago

Reading

Not at all.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"Are bi women ever turned down by a straight couple? I'm pretty certain they would be, in fact I know of a couple of straight women who would not want a bi woman in bed with them, even to play straight! Being bi myself I totally accept their preference, I don't feel any prejudice from them, it's their choice. Some people feel physically sick at the thought of same sex fucking, and while I don't have the same thought process or agree with their opinions I respect their choice. I wouldn't sleep with someone with a foot fetish ffs! Even if I thought they were the sexiest person ever! Totally unreasonable but my choice!

Cherry x

I don't have a Foot Fetish

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By *ixieAndHerKingCouple
over a year ago

Debauchery

Cherry x

I don't have a Foot Fetish

You've gone up in my expectations this morning Fucknugget

Cherry x

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By *imi_RougeWoman
over a year ago

Portsmouth

Like everything, it depends on the guy.

Honestly, sometimes it makes me feel a little bit uncomfortable, maybe down to insecurity more than anything else, like thinking would they rather be in bed with another guy? What are they getting out of this...

If all the veris are from men, it makes me wonder where their mindset is at.

And obviously the sexual health side of things, but that would be the same if they'd had numerous partners of the opposite sex.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

Cherry x

I don't have a Foot Fetish

You've gone up in my expectations this morning Fucknugget

Cherry x"

Thought I'd try and lighten the mood somewhat

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

"I think anyone who might say why they don’t want to would potentially be attacked for their opinion and told they’re wrong.

No one owes anyone their reasons for their sexual choices. Demanding them is classic entitlement and assuming them is classic prejudice (pre judgement)."

So the people being treated with bigotry are entitled and prejudiced themselves?

It’s not demanded that anyone gives reasons but when those reasons are based in bigotry, as is the case here, then it’s fairly simple.

No one likes having their own prejudices called out, no one likes being told that they carry latent racist or bigoted views but many do. I think that it’s important to call it out, that’s how we learn and grow. Pretending that it’s not a thing is myopic.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

It is not bigoted to not want to have sex with bi-males. Prejudice towards, or antagonistic towards, that is bigoted.

If it doesn’t float your boat then don’t do it, that is the best outcome for both parties. There is absolutely nothing wrong with making that personal choice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This thread...oh boy.

We've got a ton of hang ups about sexuality, masculinity and sexism in our society so good luck navigating this.

If a woman doesn't like bi men then I'm also not interested in them so no personal loss. My preference is bi women anyway, it's a big green flag about sexuality and probably gender identity.

A couple told me they couldn’t trust me to not try shag the mr

As if being Bi means ill fuck any man, consent or not "

Of course no-one should assume that, but as with single men in general - some bi-guys aren't helping the cause judging by the comment from the couple further up. Which is a real shame because every bisexual man I've ever known would never ever try it on with a man he knew was straight.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Like everything, it depends on the guy.

If all the veris are from men, it makes me wonder where their mindset is at.

And obviously the sexual health side of things, but that would be the same if they'd had numerous partners of the opposite sex. "

Would that insecurity be the same about women too though? I am filled with insecurity but if a guy is with me, I kinda hope it's because he wants ME not some other random man or woman.

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By *weet DisasterWoman
over a year ago

Preston

Being bi wouldn’t put me off at all if I like the guy.. what does is when I don’t like them and they assume it’s because they’re bi

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By *anielpiercedMan
over a year ago

by the seaside

The key word is CHOICE, people can choose their own preferences surely without being labelled.

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By *teve_it_aloneMan
over a year ago

Dunfermline

"Hi I love having sex with men and women but is seeing “Bi” on a profile a turn off for women? Is that a sexual health thing? or something else else?

Would love to read opinions.

I used to be one of those women I’m deeply ashamed to say! And yes it was a sexual health thing and yes I realise now that it was bigotry and making assumptions based on sexuality!

I learnt the error of my ways though and I now don’t even pay attention to whether someone is straight or bi! So for me it’s not offputting. "

Really good to see someone take that journey and come out the other side.

What is and isn’t bigotry is always going to be a minefield when it comes to sex (or any sort of body autonomy issue). Of course people will have personal preferences, and of course no one should ever be pressured to do anything with someone they don’t want to…

… but when those preferences are based solely on the other person’s sexuality (or race, or disability, or them being trans, etc.), then it’s probably something the person should consider, like you did.

It is a minefield though, because it’s a difficult position to articulate blurring personal preference and autonomy with generalisations, assumptions and prejudice about particular groups.

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By *teve_it_aloneMan
over a year ago

Dunfermline

"Being bi wouldn’t put me off at all if I like the guy.. what does is when I don’t like them and they assume it’s because they’re bi

That’s a fair point, but looking at the thread above - when you hear “I wouldn’t sleep with bi guys” all the time, it’s difficult to put that out of your mind.

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London

No, but as I give blood regularly I'm not actively meeting bi men.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bi men are the sexiest thing ever

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope. I love it.

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By *weet DisasterWoman
over a year ago

Preston

"Being bi wouldn’t put me off at all if I like the guy.. what does is when I don’t like them and they assume it’s because they’re bi

That’s a fair point, but looking at the thread above - when you hear “I wouldn’t sleep with bi guys” all the time, it’s difficult to put that out of your mind. "

Oh I absolutely get that.. On my profile not long ago I was actively welcoming offers from bi men for a bi mmf.. I took it off because more than once I got something along the lines of “Is it because I’m bi/sleep with men?” In response to my no thanks

Ridiculous really when that was the point/what I’d asked for

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By *teve_it_aloneMan
over a year ago

Dunfermline

"Being bi wouldn’t put me off at all if I like the guy.. what does is when I don’t like them and they assume it’s because they’re bi

That’s a fair point, but looking at the thread above - when you hear “I wouldn’t sleep with bi guys” all the time, it’s difficult to put that out of your mind.

Ridiculous really when that was the point/what I’d asked for

Yes. The “you can please some of the people some of the time…” rule was torn up when they invented Fab!

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By *eardyBikerMan
over a year ago

nr stonehaven

Certainly a few ladies I've chatted to, a fantasy is a bi MFM .

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

It isn't a turn off for me. It makes no difference.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Has everyone got enough popcorn?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The key word is CHOICE, people can choose their own preferences surely without being labelled."

Not here they can't

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The key word is CHOICE, people can choose their own preferences surely without being labelled."

I know a man, now retried, that refused to hire black people at his company. His choice completely. It was also my choice to give him a label.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

No, but they are labelled bigots. Because their is an element to that person that they don’t find attractive.

I don't find the idea of someone taking a shit attractive. I'm going to have to be celibate for life

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nice to see the ‘I don’t like being labelled for my behaviour’ people are out. I will not label anyone in this thread anything. Not even based on their opinions or actions. Well, not out loud anyway. #bEKiNd

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

I'd only meet a Bi man if he was serious about his sexual health and that includes oral, anal and genital swabbing. I've seen too many bareback videos on here

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"Old homophobic notions that bi/gay men are dirty and can’t control themselves

Consider it a great filter. If she don’t meet bi guys, you’ve done yourself a favour by not meeting a bigot "

Absoulutley not! I am no bigot! But it puts me of tbh wonder how invested there really are in meeting women! Nothing to do with being dirty! Have indeed met with and had fun with bi guys! X

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By *an4funMan
over a year ago

london

"Old homophobic notions that bi/gay men are dirty and can’t control themselves

Consider it a great filter. If she don’t meet bi guys, you’ve done yourself a favour by not meeting a bigot

Absoulutley not! I am no bigot! But it puts me of tbh wonder how invested there really are in meeting women! Nothing to do with being dirty! Have indeed met with and had fun with bi guys! X"

If they agree to meet you then they are invested surely?

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By *teve_it_aloneMan
over a year ago

Dunfermline

"I'd only meet a Bi man if he was serious about his sexual health and that includes oral, anal and genital swabbing. I've seen too many bareback videos on here"

You’re letting yourself down if you didn’t also take that same approach to men who aren’t open with you about being bi.

Risky sex is an open frontier of equality and diversity!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Massive turn off!!

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By *annibal_LickedherMan
over a year ago

The Side of the Mersey

No, but they are labelled bigots. Because their is an element to that person that they don’t find attractive.

I don't find the idea of someone taking a shit attractive. I'm going to have to be celibate for life

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd only meet a Bi man if he was serious about his sexual health and that includes oral, anal and genital swabbing. I've seen too many bareback videos on here"

We straights are just as bad with the bareback trust me!

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"Old homophobic notions that bi/gay men are dirty and can’t control themselves

Consider it a great filter. If she don’t meet bi guys, you’ve done yourself a favour by not meeting a bigot

Absoulutley not! I am no bigot! But it puts me of tbh wonder how invested there really are in meeting women! Nothing to do with being dirty! Have indeed met with and had fun with bi guys! X

If they agree to meet you then they are invested surely?"

To a degree yes! X

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By *oly Fuck Sticks BatmanCouple
over a year ago

here & there

Makes no odds….. you have no idea what anyone gets up to - tinder, grinder etc etc. The nice lady/gentleman you’re chatting to right now could be involved in anything when they are not posting nonsense on here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Makes no odds….. you have no idea what anyone gets up to - tinder, grinder etc etc. The nice lady/gentleman you’re chatting to right now could be involved in anything when they are not posting nonsense on here.

Surely not.....

Verifications are 100% proof of everyone they did (and didn't) shag.....

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By * and R cple4Couple
over a year ago

swansea

"I'd only meet a Bi man if he was serious about his sexual health and that includes oral, anal and genital swabbing. I've seen too many bareback videos on here

We straights are just as bad with the bareback trust me!

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By *oly Fuck Sticks BatmanCouple
over a year ago

here & there

Surely not.....

Verifications are 100% proof of everyone they did (and didn't) shag....."

Silly me - what was I thinking

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

Is a bi woman a turn off for straight guy's?

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

"I'd only meet a Bi man if he was serious about his sexual health and that includes oral, anal and genital swabbing. I've seen too many bareback videos on here

You’re letting yourself down if you didn’t also take that same approach to men who aren’t open with you about being bi.

Risky sex is an open frontier of equality and diversity! "

It is also worth remembering that a man can be bisexual but have never been with another man or have only been sexually involved with other men within monogamous relationships.

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By *teve_it_aloneMan
over a year ago

Dunfermline

"I'd only meet a Bi man if he was serious about his sexual health and that includes oral, anal and genital swabbing. I've seen too many bareback videos on here

You’re letting yourself down if you didn’t also take that same approach to men who aren’t open with you about being bi.

Risky sex is an open frontier of equality and diversity!

It is also worth remembering that a man can be bisexual but have never been with another man or have only been sexually involved with other men within monogamous relationships. "

absolutely.

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By *teve_it_aloneMan
over a year ago

Dunfermline

"I'd only meet a Bi man if he was serious about his sexual health and that includes oral, anal and genital swabbing. I've seen too many bareback videos on here

You’re letting yourself down if you didn’t also take that same approach to men who aren’t open with you about being bi.

Risky sex is an open frontier of equality and diversity! "

For clarity - I meant not just queer folk engaging in risks. Non queer risks higher in some circumstances because it’s so latent.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

"Old homophobic notions that bi/gay men are dirty and can’t control themselves

Consider it a great filter. If she don’t meet bi guys, you’ve done yourself a favour by not meeting a bigot

So if people don’t meet you they’re bigots?

If it’s because they are homophobic. Yes. "

Some gay guys don't want sex with bi guys. Is that homophobic too?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Old homophobic notions that bi/gay men are dirty and can’t control themselves

Consider it a great filter. If she don’t meet bi guys, you’ve done yourself a favour by not meeting a bigot

So if people don’t meet you they’re bigots?

If it’s because they are homophobic. Yes.

Some gay guys don't want sex with bi guys. Is that homophobic too?

There is such a word as biphobia?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd only meet a Bi man if he was serious about his sexual health and that includes oral, anal and genital swabbing. I've seen too many bareback videos on here

You’re letting yourself down if you didn’t also take that same approach to men who aren’t open with you about being bi.

Risky sex is an open frontier of equality and diversity!

It is also worth remembering that a man can be bisexual but have never been with another man or have only been sexually involved with other men within monogamous relationships. "

I FOR ONE AM SHOCKED BY THIS INFO

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

"I'd only meet a Bi man if he was serious about his sexual health and that includes oral, anal and genital swabbing. I've seen too many bareback videos on here

We straights are just as bad with the bareback trust me!

Yes but this thread is about Bi men. I'd say exactly the same about straight men on a straight mans thread Steve...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd only meet a Bi man if he was serious about his sexual health and that includes oral, anal and genital swabbing. I've seen too many bareback videos on here

We straights are just as bad with the bareback trust me!

Yes but this thread is about Bi men. I'd say exactly the same about straight men on a straight mans thread Steve..."

Is that an invite to start one

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

"I'd only meet a Bi man if he was serious about his sexual health and that includes oral, anal and genital swabbing. I've seen too many bareback videos on here

You’re letting yourself down if you didn’t also take that same approach to men who aren’t open with you about being bi.

Risky sex is an open frontier of equality and diversity!

For clarity - I meant not just queer folk engaging in risks. Non queer risks higher in some circumstances because it’s so latent. "

Sorry I meant to add to your comment rather than that I thought it was you who needed reminding. Sorry for any misunderstanding.

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

"I'd only meet a Bi man if he was serious about his sexual health and that includes oral, anal and genital swabbing. I've seen too many bareback videos on here

You’re letting yourself down if you didn’t also take that same approach to men who aren’t open with you about being bi.

Risky sex is an open frontier of equality and diversity! "

How do you know that I don't do that... the OP asked a question regarding Bi men and I answered it from my viewpoint on Bi men...

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over a year ago

I actually prefer bisexual men. Might be because I’m bisexual myself, enjoy sharing and being shared.

It also makes it easier to talk about having a more flexible sexuality when my partner is the same. It’s not a necessity though.

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By *teve_it_aloneMan
over a year ago

Dunfermline

"I'd only meet a Bi man if he was serious about his sexual health and that includes oral, anal and genital swabbing. I've seen too many bareback videos on here

You’re letting yourself down if you didn’t also take that same approach to men who aren’t open with you about being bi.

Risky sex is an open frontier of equality and diversity!

For clarity - I meant not just queer folk engaging in risks. Non queer risks higher in some circumstances because it’s so latent.

Sorry I meant to add to your comment rather than that I thought it was you who needed reminding. Sorry for any misunderstanding. "

no worries - it was me that was unclear to start with!

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

"Old homophobic notions that bi/gay men are dirty and can’t control themselves

Consider it a great filter. If she don’t meet bi guys, you’ve done yourself a favour by not meeting a bigot

So if people don’t meet you they’re bigots?

If it’s because they are homophobic. Yes.

Some gay guys don't want sex with bi guys. Is that homophobic too?

No but it can be biphobia. I've unfortunately experienced biphobia from lesbians too. Apparently dick is that contaminating. I mean I get it but ouch

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over a year ago

"I actually prefer bisexual men. Might be because I’m bisexual myself, enjoy sharing and being shared.

It also makes it easier to talk about having a more flexible sexuality when my partner is the same. It’s not a necessity though.

And for clarity, I insist that ALL partners, no matter their sexuality practise safe sex and are regularly tested regardless of orientation. I’m actually surprised this doesn’t do without saying…

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

"I'd only meet a Bi man if he was serious about his sexual health and that includes oral, anal and genital swabbing. I've seen too many bareback videos on here

You’re letting yourself down if you didn’t also take that same approach to men who aren’t open with you about being bi.

Risky sex is an open frontier of equality and diversity!

It is also worth remembering that a man can be bisexual but have never been with another man or have only been sexually involved with other men within monogamous relationships.

I FOR ONE AM SHOCKED BY THIS INFO

Right!? So are the blood bank apparently

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By *izandpaulCouple
over a year ago

merseyside

"Hi I love having sex with men and women but is seeing “Bi” on a profile a turn off for women? Is that a sexual health thing? or something else else?

Would love to read opinions."

I have no problem but as Paul is straight it may cause bi men a problem.

I'm a bi sexual lady but wouldn't dream of jumping on a lady who describes herself as bi.

I can control myself but tend not to meet couples were the lady is straight but happy to meet single men who are bi but can play straight, if that makes any sense.

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By * and R cple4Couple
over a year ago

swansea

"I'd only meet a Bi man if he was serious about his sexual health and that includes oral, anal and genital swabbing. I've seen too many bareback videos on here

You’re letting yourself down if you didn’t also take that same approach to men who aren’t open with you about being bi.

Risky sex is an open frontier of equality and diversity!

It is also worth remembering that a man can be bisexual but have never been with another man or have only been sexually involved with other men within monogamous relationships.

I FOR ONE AM SHOCKED BY THIS INFO

Right!? So are the blood bank apparently

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Anyone would swear we were still in the 80’s

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So women have to have sex with people they are not attracted to for fear of being labelled phobic?

I’d say that speaks volumes.

So what are you referring to as a “ Trendy nonsense “ ?

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By *teve_it_aloneMan
over a year ago

Dunfermline

"I'd only meet a Bi man if he was serious about his sexual health and that includes oral, anal and genital swabbing. I've seen too many bareback videos on here

You’re letting yourself down if you didn’t also take that same approach to men who aren’t open with you about being bi.

Risky sex is an open frontier of equality and diversity!

How do you know that I don't do that... the OP asked a question regarding Bi men and I answered it from my viewpoint on Bi men..."

Fair enough. It’s been a thread of me being confused about what I and others mean, so at least it’s on brand!

I meant no offence. Just as you presumably didn’t mean any offence by perpetuating the “bi men are disease vectors” trope in the subtext!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd only meet a Bi man if he was serious about his sexual health and that includes oral, anal and genital swabbing. I've seen too many bareback videos on here

You’re letting yourself down if you didn’t also take that same approach to men who aren’t open with you about being bi.

Risky sex is an open frontier of equality and diversity!

It is also worth remembering that a man can be bisexual but have never been with another man or have only been sexually involved with other men within monogamous relationships.

I FOR ONE AM SHOCKED BY THIS INFO

Right!? So are the blood bank apparently

Anyone would swear we were still in the 80’s

.."

Not really. Blood donation centres no longer have any specific rules for gay or bisexual men. Rather all potential donors are asked the same questions about recent sexual behaviour and the same rules apply to all genders regarding anal sex, for example, which does carry a proven higher risk of infection.

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

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"I'd only meet a Bi man if he was serious about his sexual health and that includes oral, anal and genital swabbing. I've seen too many bareback videos on here

You’re letting yourself down if you didn’t also take that same approach to men who aren’t open with you about being bi.

Risky sex is an open frontier of equality and diversity!

How do you know that I don't do that... the OP asked a question regarding Bi men and I answered it from my viewpoint on Bi men...

Fair enough. It’s been a thread of me being confused about what I and others mean, so at least it’s on brand!

I meant no offence. Just as you presumably didn’t mean any offence by perpetuating the “bi men are disease vectors” trope in the subtext!

Again... it's a Bi men thread...would it be easier for you if I just said humans are disease vectors instead of answering the OP....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Surely the only thing that matters is the moment that we are experiencing , not what either person has done before, or their sexuality

People on here don’t come clean about their preferences. Lots of profiles say “ Straight” when they are Bi really. Who cares ? How does it matter in that precise time.

If a guy says he’s straight , he fucks you, you enjoy it.

What does it matter where his dick has been before. He certainly doesn’t haveto tell you !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When anyone of us meets up with someone we don’t know well and has sex with them you have no way of knowing whether they are being truthful or not about their sexuality.

You may choose not to want to meet a bi male but you have no way of knowing if he’s as straight as he claims to be.

At least if a guy is honest enough to put it on his profile you have that choice.

There are many, many guys on here who are not honest about it.

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By *teve_it_aloneMan
over a year ago

Dunfermline

"I'd only meet a Bi man if he was serious about his sexual health and that includes oral, anal and genital swabbing. I've seen too many bareback videos on here

You’re letting yourself down if you didn’t also take that same approach to men who aren’t open with you about being bi.

Risky sex is an open frontier of equality and diversity!

How do you know that I don't do that... the OP asked a question regarding Bi men and I answered it from my viewpoint on Bi men...

Fair enough. It’s been a thread of me being confused about what I and others mean, so at least it’s on brand!

I meant no offence. Just as you presumably didn’t mean any offence by perpetuating the “bi men are disease vectors” trope in the subtext!

Again... it's a Bi men thread...would it be easier for you if I just said humans are disease vectors instead of answering the OP...."

The OP queried the “no bi men” rule often found in profiles and asked if it was a sexual health thing.

You confirmed your reservations about bi men are based in sexual health concerns.

If you had no particular reservations or concerns about bi men, one might expect your response to be “I have no particular reservations or concerns about bi men”.

If the original post was “I’ve seen lots of profiles saying they don’t sleep with Swedish men, is that a personal hygiene thing”, and you replied “when I sleep with Swedish men, I always make them shower first”… one might draw an inference that you thought Swedish hunks need a good wash.

If any Swedish men are offended by this, I apologise for drawing you into my ad absurdum continuation of this discussion. I chose your fine and pleasantly fragrant brethren purely because I’ve never heard your hygiene questioned in any racist tropes.

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By *iss E99TV/TS
over a year ago

Near Taunton Somerset

"Hi I love having sex with men and women but is seeing “Bi” on a profile a turn off for women? Is that a sexual health thing? or something else else?

Would love to read opinions."

Reality is to a lot of women it is a turn off.

1/2 the guys who contact me here either state that their straight or don’t state their looking for trans women on their profiles.

When asked why, it always comes down to the fact that most straight women won’t meet them if this was out in the open.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

"I'd only meet a Bi man if he was serious about his sexual health and that includes oral, anal and genital swabbing. I've seen too many bareback videos on here

You’re letting yourself down if you didn’t also take that same approach to men who aren’t open with you about being bi.

Risky sex is an open frontier of equality and diversity!

It is also worth remembering that a man can be bisexual but have never been with another man or have only been sexually involved with other men within monogamous relationships.

I FOR ONE AM SHOCKED BY THIS INFO

Right!? So are the blood bank apparently

Anyone would swear we were still in the 80’s

I've just checked and it was changed in June 2021 so that they could if they had the same partner for over 3 months. Finally! Prior to that my friend couldn't give blood without having sex with his husband and monogamous partner of over 5 years unless they didn't have sex for 3 months which was just ludicrous. Thank god they've finally stopped discriminating but 2021 for christ sake!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I won't meet bi men for very good reasons. Don't ask me why as that's my business and nobody else's x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At the end of the day, where a fella has plopped his cock in before me.

I'm bi so would be calling the pot kettle black and all that.

I used to not "meet bi men" and I have no actual reason for it but then I suddenly woke up and realised, it doesn't really matter does it? Just like if I was sleeping with a straight man or woman (or bi woman) that their hygiene was top notch, just like mine is, thing is with so many "fab straight men" out there, there would be much fewer men to pick from if I kept my old attitude.

Now this bit might cause a ruckus but watching 2 men together does absolutely nothing for me sexually so wouldn't meet 2 bi men, don't wish to offend anyone but rather be honest and I hope I don't get issued with one of the big stickers on my forehead

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By *uzie69xTV/TS
over a year ago

Maidstone

"That's not biphobia at all. Choosing to not have sex with someone who sleeps with the same sex is not biphobia. It's a choice. "

Of course it is... It's a bi phobic choice... Racists refusing to engage with Black people is a choice.

It's simple ... The OP is asking if men who don't declare will get a better chance of getting laid... Including biphobic people... and you've confirmed this...

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By *uzie69xTV/TS
over a year ago

Maidstone

"When asked why, it always comes down to the fact that most straight women won’t meet them if this was out in the open."

These biphobic women are delusional if that is a basis for sleeping with a guy... It's like not sleeping with married guys... Most guys here are single of course...

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By *teve_it_aloneMan
over a year ago

Dunfermline

"I'd only meet a Bi man if he was serious about his sexual health and that includes oral, anal and genital swabbing. I've seen too many bareback videos on here

You’re letting yourself down if you didn’t also take that same approach to men who aren’t open with you about being bi.

Risky sex is an open frontier of equality and diversity!

It is also worth remembering that a man can be bisexual but have never been with another man or have only been sexually involved with other men within monogamous relationships.

I FOR ONE AM SHOCKED BY THIS INFO

Right!? So are the blood bank apparently

Anyone would swear we were still in the 80’s

It’s a welcome change, but it’s still discriminatory in that it disproportionately affects men who have sex with men, even when protection is used.

The advisory committee didn’t even consider the risks of male/female anal (possible because there is very little data on the subject - finding women who have exclusively anal sex with men is probably tricky at any sort of scale). The recommendation was to continue with the three month deferral for men who have sex with men (MSM) and women who have had recent sex with MSM.

The ban for lady lovers of anal was added to for politics and optics rather than science.

The blood transfusion service have assessed that this discrimination is proportionate and necessary to achieve their aims. It’s much better than it was. But it’s still not great.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Alright, alright, alright.

I’m all for taking the piss out of biphobic women. And am generally a self proclaimed asshole.

But, understand this. It’s their body and their choice. Respect it or fuck off.

So get a grip of yourself on here. People will have sex with anything if it satisfies them for 5 mins before cumming like a weirdo.

People (not just women) have a choice on who they’d like to fuck or not. Doesn’t matter if you’re BI or not. So stop crying.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Doesn't turn me on.... Doesn't turn me off. He's just a man I either fancy or I don't. What he does when not with me is his business.

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By *teve_it_aloneMan
over a year ago

Dunfermline

"That's not biphobia at all. Choosing to not have sex with someone who sleeps with the same sex is not biphobia. It's a choice.

Of course it is... It's a bi phobic choice... Racists refusing to engage with Black people is a choice.

It's simple ... The OP is asking if men who don't declare will get a better chance of getting laid... Including biphobic people... and you've confirmed this..."

Exactly. If someone chooses to exclude all black people from their dating pool, that is racist. It’s not “actionable” in any sense, nor should it be. It’s not like a court is going to rule that a racist must agree to have sex with black people…

You can think what you want - that’s a pretty fundamental point! You could extend it beyond a dating pool decision. You could be of the firm belief that people from a particular social group are lesser than you, unworthy of your thoughts, let alone respect. Really unpleasant views, I’m sure we all agree… but lawful. Racist as fuck, but perfectly lawful.

It is absolutely fair to give that kind of belief and decision making a name.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So women have to have sex with people they are not attracted to for fear of being labelled phobic?

I’d say that speaks volumes."

Doesn't bother me. They can call me whatever phobic they like. I don't want to fuck them.

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By *teve_it_aloneMan
over a year ago

Dunfermline

"Alright, alright, alright.

I’m all for taking the piss out of biphobic women. And am generally a self proclaimed asshole.

But, understand this. It’s their body and their choice. Respect it or fuck off.

So get a grip of yourself on here. People will have sex with anything if it satisfies them for 5 mins before cumming like a weirdo.

People (not just women) have a choice on who they’d like to fuck or not. Doesn’t matter if you’re BI or not. So stop crying."

I take your point, but they keep shoving it in our faces. Flaunting it in the way they speak to each other and putting it all over their profiles.

I’m happy for them to be bigoted in private, but do they have to ram it down our throats?

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

"That's not biphobia at all. Choosing to not have sex with someone who sleeps with the same sex is not biphobia. It's a choice.

Of course it is... It's a bi phobic choice... Racists refusing to engage with Black people is a choice.

It's simple ... The OP is asking if men who don't declare will get a better chance of getting laid... Including biphobic people... and you've confirmed this..."

Biphobia is aversion toward bisexuality and bisexual people as individuals. That is not what is being said on this thread.

It is not biphobia because it is not an aversion to the person or the act of being bi-sexual. It is a choice, a preference. Like I could purely search for bi females that isn’t prejudice towards straight women.

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By *plash85Couple
over a year ago

Lincolnshire

Wow. This is insane. Your thinking here goes along the lines of someone is a racist if they dont want to sleep with a different coloured person. I'm not interested in trans people, doesn't make me transphobic I just don't fancy it and that's OK. Get a grip and stop labelling people because you got knocked back

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

"I'd only meet a Bi man if he was serious about his sexual health and that includes oral, anal and genital swabbing. I've seen too many bareback videos on here

You’re letting yourself down if you didn’t also take that same approach to men who aren’t open with you about being bi.

Risky sex is an open frontier of equality and diversity!

It is also worth remembering that a man can be bisexual but have never been with another man or have only been sexually involved with other men within monogamous relationships.

I FOR ONE AM SHOCKED BY THIS INFO

Right!? So are the blood bank apparently

Anyone would swear we were still in the 80’s

It’s a welcome change, but it’s still discriminatory in that it disproportionately affects men who have sex with men, even when protection is used.

The ban for lady lovers of anal was added to for politics and optics rather than science.

The blood transfusion service have assessed that this discrimination is proportionate and necessary to achieve their aims. It’s much better than it was. But it’s still not great. "

The previous discussion was about the fact the blood bank previously didn't recognise that MSM could be in monogamous relationships and the lack of risk that presented as blood donors. But the wider discussion is appreciated

For years I couldn't give blood because I had protected sex with my ex partner who had sex with men years before he ever met me! Completely bonkers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I take your point, but they keep shoving it in our faces. Flaunting it in the way they speak to each other and putting it all over their profiles.

I’m happy for them to be bigoted in private, but do they have to ram it down our throats?"

Dude, you sound like you need to have a reality check.

Understand this, people are people. The people you will find on this site are here on purpose for a purpose. They didn’t just “accidentally “ stumble upon this site, create a profile, and fuck a bunch of random people that seems to build a theme on the type of people they want inside or to be inside off.

Flipping the BI toggle on your profile may give you the idea that you’ll get more people to fuck. Or maybe it won’t. It’s a choice.

The honest advice I can give is just be honest with what you’re seeking at the time you’re logged in. I toggle my BI status depending on what I’m looking for and the audience I want to target. It’s all marketing baby. From pics, vids to how your profile is written outs this is like my 11th profile because I jump in and out of fab, not the scene.

People change/evolve and their kinks change. The nature of humans os to crave what they don’t have. It’s like when you started watching porn. At the start the watching people fuck in a preset scenario did it for you, then you wanted something real, the. You wanted to watch lesbians, then you switched over to trans, then over to guy-on-guy. It goes on and on.

People “may” be bigoted, but that’s oblong your interpretation on their response and how they present themselves. You’re going to save yourself a world of disappointment if you just let things be and move on to what you’re “seeking” right now. If you don’t find it on here, then find it elsewhere.

If you look hard enough for what you what, you’ll find it.

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By *iss KinkWoman
over a year ago

North West

Good grief.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So women have to have sex with people they are not attracted to for fear of being labelled phobic?

I’d say that speaks volumes.

No. Not at all.

Everyone is entitled to sleep with who they want.

It's the motivation and reasoning that classifies something as a phobia.

Attraction isn't linked at all.

^^this

If there's an element of fear or actual hatred then you could call it bigotry or a phobia.

If not, if it's purely a sexual choice due to the chemistry and physical arousal, well that's not hate driven, that's their own sexuality being expressed.

It's not okay to try and say a person MUST be open to inviting all sexual orientations to their bed OR ELSE.

Would a lesbian be slammed for turning down a bi guy who likes girls and guys? Would a gay man be slammed for turning down a straight girl? No? Well why not? What about a fem in the middle of a fmf? Should they be expected to interact with the other fem? Where is the line?

Bi is a sexuality like every other that a person has the right to find sexually attractive or not.

Let's not be policing individual sexual orientations.

There's an argument that for many in life, attraction to a bi person falls outside of a fully het orientation. And no one gets to judge what turns another on so long as it's not hate-driven.

Attraction takes in the entirety of a person.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

On that note. I’m going to order some Kimchi Loaded Fries

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"I actually prefer bisexual men. Might be because I’m bisexual myself, enjoy sharing and being shared.

It also makes it easier to talk about having a more flexible sexuality when my partner is the same. It’s not a necessity though.

Why are you in Scotland

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I take your point, but they keep shoving it in our faces. Flaunting it in the way they speak to each other and putting it all over their profiles.

I’m happy for them to be bigoted in private, but do they have to ram it down our throats?

Dude, you sound like you need to have a reality check.

Flipping the BI toggle on your profile may give you the idea that you’ll get more people to fuck. Or maybe it won’t. It’s a choice.

If you look hard enough for what you what, you’ll find it. "

So your advice is to lie about your bi/straight status to get pussy?

Nice

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"So women have to have sex with people they are not attracted to for fear of being labelled phobic?

I’d say that speaks volumes.

No. Not at all.

Everyone is entitled to sleep with who they want.

It's the motivation and reasoning that classifies something as a phobia.

Attraction isn't linked at all.

^^this

If there's an element of fear or actual hatred then you could call it bigotry or a phobia.

If not, if it's purely a sexual choice due to the chemistry and physical arousal, well that's not hate driven, that's their own sexuality being expressed.

It's not okay to try and say a person MUST be open to inviting all sexual orientations to their bed OR ELSE.

Bi is a sexuality like every other that a person has the right to find sexually attractive or not.

Let's not be policing individual sexual orientations.

There's an argument that for many in life, attraction to a bi person falls outside of a fully het orientation. And no one gets to judge what turns another on so long as it's not hate-driven.

Attraction takes in the entirety of a person."

Well said

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By *teve_it_aloneMan
over a year ago

Dunfermline

"I take your point, but they keep shoving it in our faces. Flaunting it in the way they speak to each other and putting it all over their profiles.

I’m happy for them to be bigoted in private, but do they have to ram it down our throats?

Dude, you sound like you need to have a reality check.

Flipping the BI toggle on your profile may give you the idea that you’ll get more people to fuck. Or maybe it won’t. It’s a choice.

If you look hard enough for what you what, you’ll find it. "

My post you quoted was tongue in cheek - using the language of the bigot to make a point against their bigotry. Sorry that wasn’t obvious for you. My failing.

I don’t “flip the bi toggle” because of any impact I expect (positive or negative) on my sex life. I flipped the bi toggle because I’m being my honest self. I “am” bi.

You might do so for “marketing, baby” (or possibly internalised biphobia?) but as you’ve alluded to: you do you. That includes your porn journey.

I come on here for the spirit of the debate. I see a topic that sparks an interest and I can’t help but wade in. That’s probably another failing on my part. It’s almost certainly related to my ADHD. I see populism and I react.

But it has absolutely nothing to do with trying to get a shag or otherwise. I’ve seen many tactics deployed on here, but I’m certainly not trying to soapbox anyone into bed!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So your advice is to lie about your bi/straight status to get pussy?

Nice "

I do what I want to get the result I want. Not ashamed or am going to lie about it.

And let’s be honest, do you think 100% of the people on this site do what they state on their profile. Nope.

In my experience, with the right circumstances, people will do just about anything to please themselves.

The things I’ve done to test that theory have panned out and I’ll stick to that. Whether you’re BI or not. It doesn’t matter. A melon, again with the right “circumstances” is enough to make a guy cum. Or a girl watching another girl pleasure herself whilst imagining herself being pleasured that way will yield the same result.

Though, in the defence of women cumming, I had a girl tell me once the way she cums whilst being locked out, fingered or fucked is different. So each to their own.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So your advice is to lie about your bi/straight status to get pussy?

Nice

I do what I want to get the result I want. Not ashamed or am going to lie about it.

And let’s be honest, do you think 100% of the people on this site do what they state on their profile. Nope.

In my experience, with the right circumstances, people will do just about anything to please themselves.

Though, in the defence of women cumming, I had a girl tell me once the way she cums whilst being locked out, fingered or fucked is different. So each to their own."

Just thought I’d confirm that you deliberately lie to women to get in their knickers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wow. This is insane. Your thinking here goes along the lines of someone is a racist if they dont want to sleep with a different coloured person. I'm not interested in trans people, doesn't make me transphobic I just don't fancy it and that's OK. Get a grip and stop labelling people because you got knocked back"

It is insane, and the definition of prejudice - pre judging the opinions and experiences of total strangers because their preferences differ from yours. With a rather stinky undercurrent of misogyny too- 'if these women won't sleep with bi men like me then there's some thing wrong (bigotry) with them.'

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

"I'd only meet a Bi man if he was serious about his sexual health and that includes oral, anal and genital swabbing. I've seen too many bareback videos on here

You’re letting yourself down if you didn’t also take that same approach to men who aren’t open with you about being bi.

Risky sex is an open frontier of equality and diversity!

How do you know that I don't do that... the OP asked a question regarding Bi men and I answered it from my viewpoint on Bi men...

Fair enough. It’s been a thread of me being confused about what I and others mean, so at least it’s on brand!

I meant no offence. Just as you presumably didn’t mean any offence by perpetuating the “bi men are disease vectors” trope in the subtext!

Again... it's a Bi men thread...would it be easier for you if I just said humans are disease vectors instead of answering the OP....

The OP queried the “no bi men” rule often found in profiles and asked if it was a sexual health thing.

You confirmed your reservations about bi men are based in sexual health concerns.

If you had no particular reservations or concerns about bi men, one might expect your response to be “I have no particular reservations or concerns about bi men”.

Let's give this one last go...

I have reservations about having sexual contact with ANY MAN... because of sexual health concerns... hopefully this is clear for you and you won't have to worry about questioning whether I am letting myself down or not

Merry Xmas

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By *teve_it_aloneMan
over a year ago

Dunfermline

"So your advice is to lie about your bi/straight status to get pussy?

Nice

I do what I want to get the result I want. Not ashamed or am going to lie about it.

And let’s be honest, do you think 100% of the people on this site do what they state on their profile. Nope.

In my experience, with the right circumstances, people will do just about anything to please themselves.

Though, in the defence of women cumming, I had a girl tell me once the way she cums whilst being locked out, fingered or fucked is different. So each to their own."

So you’re not going to lie about the fact you lie to get your hole?

While I obviously want to benefit from your wisdom on girls cumming and learn from the BramStroker school of “by any means necessary”… the more press ion question I have is why you keep capitalising “BI”? For someone so happy to play it straight to get the girls (or… melons?) it seems like you’re suddenly shouting about it.

It’s good to see you embrace your inner queer. Enjoy your kimchi fries

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Want to me rap, anyone? Lighten the mood?

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