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"As I love a good debate: Women seem to get with men for financial security and stability. Men seem to get with women for attraction and sex. M2M get with each other for sex and stability. "I'm with the wrong man so unless he's not telling me something  
Whereas he's definitely with the right woman, I'm fucking sizzling hot and can't get enough  
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"As I love a good debate: Women seem to get with men for financial security and stability. Men seem to get with women for attraction and sex. M2M get with each other for sex and stability. "Maybe the case in the 50’s but times have changed thankfully. | |||
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"As I love a good debate: Women seem to get with men for financial security and stability. Men seem to get with women for attraction and sex. M2M get with each other for sex and stability. "So what do W2W get with each other for as you seem to have missed them off your list | |||
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"I am unstable and broke xwow me too" Perfect m2m match then | |||
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"As I love a good debate: Women seem to get with men for financial security and stability. Men seem to get with women for attraction and sex. M2M get with each other for sex and stability.
So what do W2W get with each other for as you seem to have missed them off your list "Scissoring. | |||
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"I am unstable and broke xwow me too Perfect m2m match then " bummerloving had me a blaaaaaast you screamed merci as a penetrate your aaaaaaarse | |||
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"I am unstable and broke xwow me too Perfect m2m match then bummerloving had me a blaaaaaast you screamed merci as a penetrate your aaaaaaarse" Mais de rien. C’est gratuit | |||
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"As I love a good debate: Women seem to get with men for financial security and stability. Men seem to get with women for attraction and sex. M2M get with each other for sex and stability.
So what do W2W get with each other for as you seem to have missed them off your list
Scissoring. " | |||
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"I am unstable and broke xwow me too Perfect m2m match then bummerloving had me a blaaaaaast you screamed merci as a penetrate your aaaaaaarse Mais de rien. C’est gratuit " https://youtu.be/ZMUzijuUWV0 sorry this is the only french i know | |||
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"As I love a good debate: Women seem to get with men for financial security and stability. Men seem to get with women for attraction and sex. M2M get with each other for sex and stability.
So what do W2W get with each other for as you seem to have missed them off your list
Scissoring. "Mixed reports on scissoring Anyone in favour? | |||
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"As I love a good debate: Women seem to get with men for financial security and stability. Men seem to get with women for attraction and sex. M2M get with each other for sex and stability. "I think broadly speaking, the first two are fairly accurate. Women will rarely marry down, by that i mean marry a guy who is less successful than them. Men will however. There are of course , as with all things, lots of exceptionsnto the rule. | |||
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"Seems to be hitting a nerve with a few ladies. What I am saying is: women even if financial independent USUALLY want something out of the man; be that children, property etc. " Doubling down for a big finale Woohoo!! I'd like orgasms and a bar of chocolate | |||
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"I am unstable and broke xwow me too Perfect m2m match then bummerloving had me a blaaaaaast you screamed merci as a penetrate your aaaaaaarse Mais de rien. C’est gratuit https://youtu.be/ZMUzijuUWV0 sorry this is the only french i know Toi t’as soif et tu voudrais un orangina ?! " catch tune too known that since i was 12 | |||
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"Love all straight men are keeping quite and pretending they don't agree so they don't ruin their chances on this site " | |||
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"I am unstable and broke xwow me too Perfect m2m match then bummerloving had me a blaaaaaast you screamed merci as a penetrate your aaaaaaarse Mais de rien. C’est gratuit https://youtu.be/ZMUzijuUWV0 sorry this is the only french i know Toi t’as soif et tu voudrais un orangina ?! "I am a little thirtsy actually but not a fan of Orangina.... got any water? | |||
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"Love all straight men are keeping quite and pretending they don't agree so they don't ruin their chances on this site "Wow now going after straight guys I am bisexual and I don’t agree and it’s not because as you say want to ruin my chances as because I am bi I can’t as there will always be guys | |||
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"As I love a good debate: Women seem to get with men for financial security and stability. Men seem to get with women for attraction and sex. M2M get with each other for sex and stability.
I think broadly speaking, the first two are fairly accurate. Women will rarely marry down, by that i mean marry a guy who is less successful than them. Men will however.
"Totally agree. First/second question I am usually asked at a normal date is what do I do for living. Few times with quite successful girls I jokingly said I am plumber and their interest faded through the night. On contrary when I am saying I am Vice President bla bla bla - most become very interested. Doesn’t guarantee anything of course, but definitely a filter ladies use. Women rarely date down and that is fact. | |||
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"Seems to be hitting a nerve with a few ladies. What I am saying is: women even if financial independent USUALLY want something out of the man; be that children, property etc. " Er, nope. Some women, I'll grant you. But certainly not the majority. | |||
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"As I love a good debate: Women seem to get with men for financial security and stability. Men seem to get with women for attraction and sex. M2M get with each other for sex and stability.
I think broadly speaking, the first two are fairly accurate. Women will rarely marry down, by that i mean marry a guy who is less successful than them. Men will however.
Totally agree. First/second question I am usually asked at a normal date is what do I do for living. Few times with quite successful girls I jokingly said I am plumber and their interest faded through the night. On contrary when I am saying I am Vice President bla bla bla - most become very interested. Doesn’t guarantee anything of course, but definitely a filter ladies use. Women rarely date down and that is fact."I'd say it's most definitely not a fact. Lots of my friends earn more than their partners. | |||
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"As I love a good debate: Women seem to get with men for financial security and stability. Men seem to get with women for attraction and sex. M2M get with each other for sex and stability.
I think broadly speaking, the first two are fairly accurate. Women will rarely marry down, by that i mean marry a guy who is less successful than them. Men will however.
Totally agree. First/second question I am usually asked at a normal date is what do I do for living. Few times with quite successful girls I jokingly said I am plumber and their interest faded through the night. On contrary when I am saying I am Vice President bla bla bla - most become very interested. Doesn’t guarantee anything of course, but definitely a filter ladies use. Women rarely date down and that is fact."There's a lot said on here about the label of 'professional' and aiming to connect with a peer group who have a common history. I don't think it's a guarantee of common ground these days though as people climb professional ladders by a variety of means now not just the traditional. There are lots of self-made success stories. I'd want a capable functioning member of society, the how and what of their life plan are irrelevant beyond that basic sense of adulting successfully. | |||
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"^^ In terms of the world population I would say it is true" Statistics or it didn’t happen | |||
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"Seems to be hitting a nerve with a few ladies. What I am saying is: women even if financial independent USUALLY want something out of the man; be that children, property etc. " No we don’t, mostly we marry thinking we are making a home and a family together and that it will last forever | |||
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"I have worked in a female dominanted environment most of my career. I hear what they say about their husbands/partners and what they also talk about a lot. "I work in a male dominated environment and they mostly talk about football | |||
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"I have worked in a female dominanted environment most of my career. I hear what they say about their husbands/partners and what they also talk about a lot.
I work in a male dominated environment and they mostly talk about football "I know which I'd prefer lol | |||
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I work in a male dominated environment and they mostly talk about football " | |||
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"As I love a good debate: Women seem to get with men for financial security and stability. Men seem to get with women for attraction and sex. M2M get with each other for sex and stability.
I think broadly speaking, the first two are fairly accurate. Women will rarely marry down, by that i mean marry a guy who is less successful than them. Men will however.
Totally agree. First/second question I am usually asked at a normal date is what do I do for living. Few times with quite successful girls I jokingly said I am plumber and their interest faded through the night. On contrary when I am saying I am Vice President bla bla bla - most become very interested. Doesn’t guarantee anything of course, but definitely a filter ladies use. Women rarely date down and that is fact.
There's a lot said on here about the label of 'professional' and aiming to connect with a peer group who have a common history.
I don't think it's a guarantee of common ground these days though as people climb professional ladders by a variety of means now not just the traditional. There are lots of self-made success stories.
I'd want a capable functioning member of society, the how and what of their life plan are irrelevant beyond that basic sense of adulting successfully."Success is subjective (but I understand what you mean). Mrs | |||
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"As I love a good debate: Women seem to get with men for financial security and stability. Men seem to get with women for attraction and sex. M2M get with each other for sex and stability.
I think broadly speaking, the first two are fairly accurate. Women will rarely marry down, by that i mean marry a guy who is less successful than them. Men will however.
Totally agree. First/second question I am usually asked at a normal date is what do I do for living. Few times with quite successful girls I jokingly said I am plumber and their interest faded through the night. On contrary when I am saying I am Vice President bla bla bla - most become very interested. Doesn’t guarantee anything of course, but definitely a filter ladies use. Women rarely date down and that is fact.
There's a lot said on here about the label of 'professional' and aiming to connect with a peer group who have a common history.
I don't think it's a guarantee of common ground these days though as people climb professional ladders by a variety of means now not just the traditional. There are lots of self-made success stories.
I'd want a capable functioning member of society, the how and what of their life plan are irrelevant beyond that basic sense of adulting successfully.
Success is subjective (but I understand what you mean). Mrs"Yeah, wasn't thinking in terms of financials, etc. Just in achieving the goals they have set for their own selves. Managing daytoday life and such. | |||
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"Tell me: you could choose a guy on min wage or a millionaire. If you choose the latter my point is proven. Obviously not all would but a large amount would. "I'd choose a guy who made me laugh, made me feel like the only woman he needs, who I had fun with but was also able to talk to when I needed support, and who I fancied the pants off. This year, when dating, I've met men who seem to think their amazing jobs, cars and incomes mean its ok to still be a prick. Its not ,and never will be. | |||
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"This year, when dating, I've met men who seem to think their amazing jobs, cars and incomes mean its ok to still be a prick. Its not and never will be. " FFS | |||
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"Tell me: you could choose a guy on min wage or a millionaire. If you choose the latter my point is proven. Obviously not all would but a large amount would.
I'd choose a guy who made me laugh, made me feel like the only woman he needs, who I had fun with but was also able to talk to when I needed support, and who I fancied the pants off.
This year, when dating, I've met men who seem to think their amazing jobs, cars and incomes mean its ok to still be a prick.
Its not ,and never will be. "
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"This year, when dating, I've met men who seem to think their amazing jobs, cars and incomes mean its ok to still be a prick. Its not and never will be. FFS" You're a nice prick though Pete. You just don't want to date me  | |||
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"As I love a good debate: Women seem to get with men for financial security and stability. Men seem to get with women for attraction and sex. M2M get with each other for sex and stability. "I Sit back open the popcorn and await the wrath of the feminists. | |||
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"On the feminist debate. Can I just ask? Where is the feminist outcry over the Ukraine situation? Women can leave the country, but men must stay and fight " But women are the protector's of children remember. They know best . They want equal rights but only on certain things. | |||
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"As I love a good debate: Women seem to get with men for financial security and stability. Men seem to get with women for attraction and sex. M2M get with each other for sex and stability. "This thread could have been posted anonymously and I'd still have guessed the OP. Do you really enjoy a good debate? Or just like to start controversial hand grenade threads that you know will get people's backs up? Because there's a pretty obvious difference between the two........
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"As I love a good debate: Women seem to get with men for financial security and stability. Men seem to get with women for attraction and sex. M2M get with each other for sex and stability.
This thread could have been posted anonymously and I'd still have guessed the OP.
Do you really enjoy a good debate? Or just like to start controversial hand grenade threads that you know will get people's backs up?
Because there's a pretty obvious difference between the two........
A" it would only get people's backs up if they take it personally. | |||
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"As I love a good debate: Women seem to get with men for financial security and stability. Men seem to get with women for attraction and sex. M2M get with each other for sex and stability.
This thread could have been posted anonymously and I'd still have guessed the OP.
Do you really enjoy a good debate? Or just like to start controversial hand grenade threads that you know will get people's backs up?
Because there's a pretty obvious difference between the two........
A"Theres probably a bit of both in there, but does that matter? It gets people thinking and discussing and yes maybe arguing as well. If they dont want to partake then they won't | |||
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"As I love a good debate: Women seem to get with men for financial security and stability. Men seem to get with women for attraction and sex. M2M get with each other for sex and stability.
This thread could have been posted anonymously and I'd still have guessed the OP.
Do you really enjoy a good debate? Or just like to start controversial hand grenade threads that you know will get people's backs up?
Because there's a pretty obvious difference between the two........
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it would only get people's backs up if they take it personally. "Trying to masquerade a deliberately argumentative opinion as a 'debate' is as transparent as an expertly cleaned window. It's not original. People have been doing it for as long as the forums existed. If you're going to do it though at least state why you believe it to be true and have some evidence to back up your assumptions, else it just looks like a 'ooh....aren't I edgy and controversial' post. There's nothing wrong with a debate at all. But a debate requires a rational argument and an explanation of your theories, rather than just a couple of one line statements. That's not a debate in rhe slightest. 
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"Seems to be hitting a nerve with a few ladies. What I am saying is: women even if financial independent USUALLY want something out of the man; be that children, property etc. " Again don't tar every woman with the same brush, I don't any more children and own my house (without any assistance from a man) The only thing I want from a man is his time x | |||
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"As I love a good debate: Women seem to get with men for financial security and stability. Men seem to get with women for attraction and sex. M2M get with each other for sex and stability. "I wouldn't get involved with a man who wasn't financially secure and stable. I'm too damn old to starve in a garret it's not romantic or fun and love does not keep you warm. I would want to be attracted to him too though. I wouldn't want to be with a man I wasn't attracted to or didn't want to have sex with. I'd want to be on a fairly equal financial footing with him too. Other women might think differently though | |||
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"As I love a good debate: Women seem to get with men for financial security and stability. Men seem to get with women for attraction and sex. M2M get with each other for sex and stability.
This thread could have been posted anonymously and I'd still have guessed the OP.
Do you really enjoy a good debate? Or just like to start controversial hand grenade threads that you know will get people's backs up?
Because there's a pretty obvious difference between the two........
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it would only get people's backs up if they take it personally.
Trying to masquerade a deliberately argumentative opinion as a 'debate' is as transparent as an expertly cleaned window.
It's not original. People have been doing it for as long as the forums existed.
If you're going to do it though at least state why you believe it to be true and have some evidence to back up your assumptions, else it just looks like a 'ooh....aren't I edgy and controversial' post.
There's nothing wrong with a debate at all. But a debate requires a rational argument and an explanation of your theories, rather than just a couple of one line statements.
That's not a debate in rhe slightest.
A"Debate: 1. A discussion involving opposing points; an argument. 2. Deliberation; consideration: passed the motion with little debate. 3. A formal contest of argumentation in which two opposing teams defend and attack a given proposition | |||
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"As I love a good debate: Women seem to get with men for financial security and stability. Men seem to get with women for attraction and sex. M2M get with each other for sex and stability.
This thread could have been posted anonymously and I'd still have guessed the OP.
Do you really enjoy a good debate? Or just like to start controversial hand grenade threads that you know will get people's backs up?
Because there's a pretty obvious difference between the two........
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it would only get people's backs up if they take it personally.
Trying to masquerade a deliberately argumentative opinion as a 'debate' is as transparent as an expertly cleaned window.
It's not original. People have been doing it for as long as the forums existed.
If you're going to do it though at least state why you believe it to be true and have some evidence to back up your assumptions, else it just looks like a 'ooh....aren't I edgy and controversial' post.
There's nothing wrong with a debate at all. But a debate requires a rational argument and an explanation of your theories, rather than just a couple of one line statements.
That's not a debate in rhe slightest.
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Debate:
1. A discussion involving opposing points; an argument.
2. Deliberation; consideration: passed the motion with little debate.
3. A formal contest of argumentation in which two opposing teams defend and attack a given proposition
"Yes. And none of those were in your opening post. You made three statements with no attempt to argue their case. No discussion. No deliberation. No argument. Just three baseless statements. A | |||
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"Is the rainbow emoji like the peace emoji where you use it like a protective shield to get out of owning the fallout of your posts?" Nothing's falling out? I like the rainbow emoji. | |||
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"As I love a good debate: Women seem to get with men for financial security and stability. Men seem to get with women for attraction and sex. M2M get with each other for sex and stability.
This thread could have been posted anonymously and I'd still have guessed the OP.
Do you really enjoy a good debate? Or just like to start controversial hand grenade threads that you know will get people's backs up?
Because there's a pretty obvious difference between the two........
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it would only get people's backs up if they take it personally.
Trying to masquerade a deliberately argumentative opinion as a 'debate' is as transparent as an expertly cleaned window.
It's not original. People have been doing it for as long as the forums existed.
If you're going to do it though at least state why you believe it to be true and have some evidence to back up your assumptions, else it just looks like a 'ooh....aren't I edgy and controversial' post.
There's nothing wrong with a debate at all. But a debate requires a rational argument and an explanation of your theories, rather than just a couple of one line statements.
That's not a debate in rhe slightest.
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Debate:
1. A discussion involving opposing points; an argument.
2. Deliberation; consideration: passed the motion with little debate.
3. A formal contest of argumentation in which two opposing teams defend and attack a given proposition
Yes.
And none of those were in your opening post.
You made three statements with no attempt to argue their case. No discussion. No deliberation. No argument.
Just three baseless statements.
A"Please see statement 1. They are all different meanings of the word debate. I have covered what statement 1 says. | |||
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"As I love a good debate: Women seem to get with men for financial security and stability. Men seem to get with women for attraction and sex. M2M get with each other for sex and stability.
This thread could have been posted anonymously and I'd still have guessed the OP.
Do you really enjoy a good debate? Or just like to start controversial hand grenade threads that you know will get people's backs up?
Because there's a pretty obvious difference between the two........
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it would only get people's backs up if they take it personally.
Trying to masquerade a deliberately argumentative opinion as a 'debate' is as transparent as an expertly cleaned window.
It's not original. People have been doing it for as long as the forums existed.
If you're going to do it though at least state why you believe it to be true and have some evidence to back up your assumptions, else it just looks like a 'ooh....aren't I edgy and controversial' post.
There's nothing wrong with a debate at all. But a debate requires a rational argument and an explanation of your theories, rather than just a couple of one line statements.
That's not a debate in rhe slightest.
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Debate:
1. A discussion involving opposing points; an argument.
2. Deliberation; consideration: passed the motion with little debate.
3. A formal contest of argumentation in which two opposing teams defend and attack a given proposition
Yes.
And none of those were in your opening post.
You made three statements with no attempt to argue their case. No discussion. No deliberation. No argument.
Just three baseless statements.
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Please see statement 1. They are all different meanings of the word debate. I have covered what statement 1 says.
"I'm still waiting for your argument. You haven't made one. You've offered no evidence or backed up your three opening statements at all. You've used a lot of rainbows but that's not really a useful explanation as to why you believe what you've said. Assuming of course you actually do think that? A | |||
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"As I love a good debate: Women seem to get with men for financial security and stability. Men seem to get with women for attraction and sex. M2M get with each other for sex and stability.
This thread could have been posted anonymously and I'd still have guessed the OP.
Do you really enjoy a good debate? Or just like to start controversial hand grenade threads that you know will get people's backs up?
Because there's a pretty obvious difference between the two........
A
it would only get people's backs up if they take it personally.
Trying to masquerade a deliberately argumentative opinion as a 'debate' is as transparent as an expertly cleaned window.
It's not original. People have been doing it for as long as the forums existed.
If you're going to do it though at least state why you believe it to be true and have some evidence to back up your assumptions, else it just looks like a 'ooh....aren't I edgy and controversial' post.
There's nothing wrong with a debate at all. But a debate requires a rational argument and an explanation of your theories, rather than just a couple of one line statements.
That's not a debate in rhe slightest.
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Debate:
1. A discussion involving opposing points; an argument.
2. Deliberation; consideration: passed the motion with little debate.
3. A formal contest of argumentation in which two opposing teams defend and attack a given proposition
Yes.
And none of those were in your opening post.
You made three statements with no attempt to argue their case. No discussion. No deliberation. No argument.
Just three baseless statements.
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Please see statement 1. They are all different meanings of the word debate. I have covered what statement 1 says.
I'm still waiting for your argument.
You haven't made one. You've offered no evidence or backed up your three opening statements at all.
You've used a lot of rainbows but that's not really a useful explanation as to why you believe what you've said.
Assuming of course you actually do think that?
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"I'm finding it difficult to understand what you are seeing. I have given statements. You debate them. I didn't say they were or weren't my views. Rainbows are the meaning of life "So essentially it's a hand grenade post. Thanks for clearing that up. It's not down to others to debate your views on your behalf. You need to own them. Unless you can't explain them of course but then who would be daft enough to post controversial statements in an open forum and then not have the confidence or balls to support their own views..... 
What would be the point of that?
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"As I love a good debate: Women seem to get with men for financial security and stability. Men seem to get with women for attraction and sex. M2M get with each other for sex and stability.
This thread could have been posted anonymously and I'd still have guessed the OP.
Do you really enjoy a good debate? Or just like to start controversial hand grenade threads that you know will get people's backs up?
Because there's a pretty obvious difference between the two........
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it would only get people's backs up if they take it personally.
Trying to masquerade a deliberately argumentative opinion as a 'debate' is as transparent as an expertly cleaned window.
It's not original. People have been doing it for as long as the forums existed.
If you're going to do it though at least state why you believe it to be true and have some evidence to back up your assumptions, else it just looks like a 'ooh....aren't I edgy and controversial' post.
There's nothing wrong with a debate at all. But a debate requires a rational argument and an explanation of your theories, rather than just a couple of one line statements.
That's not a debate in rhe slightest.
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Debate:
1. A discussion involving opposing points; an argument.
2. Deliberation; consideration: passed the motion with little debate.
3. A formal contest of argumentation in which two opposing teams defend and attack a given proposition
Yes.
And none of those were in your opening post.
You made three statements with no attempt to argue their case. No discussion. No deliberation. No argument.
Just three baseless statements.
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Please see statement 1. They are all different meanings of the word debate. I have covered what statement 1 says.
I'm still waiting for your argument.
You haven't made one. You've offered no evidence or backed up your three opening statements at all.
You've used a lot of rainbows but that's not really a useful explanation as to why you believe what you've said.
Assuming of course you actually do think that?
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what is your obsession with this. The guy put up a post, of people want to join in then they can, if not then they can stay away. You seem intent on policing it so it doesnt upset you and the other pearl clutchers."As you say if people want to join in they can, so I am.
Does it upset you in some way?
Do you need a hug?
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"I get with chicks that have nice tits. So does my wife. Your theory is crap. Oh hi "As if by magic… A beautifully chested maiden appears | |||
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"As I love a good debate: Women seem to get with men for financial security and stability. Men seem to get with women for attraction and sex. M2M get with each other for sex and stability.
This thread could have been posted anonymously and I'd still have guessed the OP.
Do you really enjoy a good debate? Or just like to start controversial hand grenade threads that you know will get people's backs up?
Because there's a pretty obvious difference between the two........
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it would only get people's backs up if they take it personally.
Trying to masquerade a deliberately argumentative opinion as a 'debate' is as transparent as an expertly cleaned window.
It's not original. People have been doing it for as long as the forums existed.
If you're going to do it though at least state why you believe it to be true and have some evidence to back up your assumptions, else it just looks like a 'ooh....aren't I edgy and controversial' post.
There's nothing wrong with a debate at all. But a debate requires a rational argument and an explanation of your theories, rather than just a couple of one line statements.
That's not a debate in rhe slightest.
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Debate:
1. A discussion involving opposing points; an argument.
2. Deliberation; consideration: passed the motion with little debate.
3. A formal contest of argumentation in which two opposing teams defend and attack a given proposition
Yes.
And none of those were in your opening post.
You made three statements with no attempt to argue their case. No discussion. No deliberation. No argument.
Just three baseless statements.
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Please see statement 1. They are all different meanings of the word debate. I have covered what statement 1 says.
I'm still waiting for your argument.
You haven't made one. You've offered no evidence or backed up your three opening statements at all.
You've used a lot of rainbows but that's not really a useful explanation as to why you believe what you've said.
Assuming of course you actually do think that?
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what is your obsession with this. The guy put up a post, of people want to join in then they can, if not then they can stay away. You seem intent on policing it so it doesnt upset you and the other pearl clutchers.
As you say if people want to join in they can, so I am.
Does it upset you in some way?
Do you need a hug?
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"I'm finding it difficult to understand what you are seeing. I have given statements. You debate them. I didn't say they were or weren't my views. Rainbows are the meaning of life
So essentially it's a hand grenade post.
Thanks for clearing that up.
It's not down to others to debate your views on your behalf. You need to own them.
Unless you can't explain them of course but then who would be daft enough to post controversial statements in an open forum and then not have the confidence or balls to support their own views.....
What would be the point of that?
A"This is my final message to you; as you are putting your view of what a debate is. My view is was what i wrote. People responded. If you feel that strongly then may I suggest you start a thread on how to write a debate to educate us all. | |||
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"As I love a good debate: Women seem to get with men for financial security and stability. Men seem to get with women for attraction and sex. M2M get with each other for sex and stability.
This thread could have been posted anonymously and I'd still have guessed the OP.
Do you really enjoy a good debate? Or just like to start controversial hand grenade threads that you know will get people's backs up?
Because there's a pretty obvious difference between the two........
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it would only get people's backs up if they take it personally.
Trying to masquerade a deliberately argumentative opinion as a 'debate' is as transparent as an expertly cleaned window.
It's not original. People have been doing it for as long as the forums existed.
If you're going to do it though at least state why you believe it to be true and have some evidence to back up your assumptions, else it just looks like a 'ooh....aren't I edgy and controversial' post.
There's nothing wrong with a debate at all. But a debate requires a rational argument and an explanation of your theories, rather than just a couple of one line statements.
That's not a debate in rhe slightest.
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Debate:
1. A discussion involving opposing points; an argument.
2. Deliberation; consideration: passed the motion with little debate.
3. A formal contest of argumentation in which two opposing teams defend and attack a given proposition
Yes.
And none of those were in your opening post.
You made three statements with no attempt to argue their case. No discussion. No deliberation. No argument.
Just three baseless statements.
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Please see statement 1. They are all different meanings of the word debate. I have covered what statement 1 says.
I'm still waiting for your argument.
You haven't made one. You've offered no evidence or backed up your three opening statements at all.
You've used a lot of rainbows but that's not really a useful explanation as to why you believe what you've said.
Assuming of course you actually do think that?
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what is your obsession with this. The guy put up a post, of people want to join in then they can, if not then they can stay away. You seem intent on policing it so it doesnt upset you and the other pearl clutchers.
As you say if people want to join in they can, so I am.
Does it upset you in some way?
Do you need a hug?
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Youre not joining in though, youre derailing.
Youve taken issue with the subject matter and the OPs motives as you see them, and are trying to attack him rather than just discuss the subject"Nope. I've asked him why he believes his statements to be true. That's essentially what a debate is - people explaining their thoughts and arguing their viewpoints. I have no issue with the subject at all - just the statements made. The OP stated he likes a debate. More than happy to indulge him buy to do so he'll need to provide an argument. I'll wait........
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"We are in 2022 right? None of the women I know got into a relationship with a man for financial security "Did any of them get into a relationship with a guy who was unemployed or working a job well below theirs on the earning scale? | |||
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"We are in 2022 right? None of the women I know got into a relationship with a man for financial security
Did any of them get into a relationship with a guy who was unemployed or working a job well below theirs on the earning scale? "We all work these days fella, no one gets an easy ride anymore | |||
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"We are in 2022 right? None of the women I know got into a relationship with a man for financial security
Did any of them get into a relationship with a guy who was unemployed or working a job well below theirs on the earning scale?
We all work these days fella, no one gets an easy ride anymore "I dont quite follow the context of that comment | |||
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"Would a celebrity get with someone on minimum wage or not working. Would a millionaire go with a unemployed person. Would you go with someone who was unemployed or working. Probably working as you would say you would want them to be financially able. it's about money and social status." Now you're providing arguments for your views. Well done!
Millionaires can get with whoever they choose. They don't need to find someone to provide financial stability as they already have that.
As for anyone else? Are you seriously saying that all unemployed people or those in minimum wage jobs are single? Because they're not. Nor are they (as your opening statements alluded) all women.
There's far more to life than money and status. Neither of those things are guaranteed to last.
Or do you assume that should someone lose a job and financial status that a partner would automatically leave them?
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"We are in 2022 right? None of the women I know got into a relationship with a man for financial security
Did any of them get into a relationship with a guy who was unemployed or working a job well below theirs on the earning scale?
We all work these days fella, no one gets an easy ride anymore
I dont quite follow the context of that comment"It means both men and women (married or civil partners) have to work to survive financially right now, so even in the man has a good wage it doesn’t guarantee that the woman would be able to give up work and expect him to provide for her, those days are long gone | |||
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"We are in 2022 right? None of the women I know got into a relationship with a man for financial security
Did any of them get into a relationship with a guy who was unemployed or working a job well below theirs on the earning scale?
We all work these days fella, no one gets an easy ride anymore
I dont quite follow the context of that comment
It means both men and women (married or civil partners) have to work to survive financially right now, so even in the man has a good wage it doesn’t guarantee that the woman would be able to give up work and expect him to provide for her, those days are long gone "Im not saying that at all. I asked a completely different question to the other lady | |||
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"We are in 2022 right? None of the women I know got into a relationship with a man for financial security
Did any of them get into a relationship with a guy who was unemployed or working a job well below theirs on the earning scale?
We all work these days fella, no one gets an easy ride anymore
I dont quite follow the context of that comment
It means both men and women (married or civil partners) have to work to survive financially right now, so even in the man has a good wage it doesn’t guarantee that the woman would be able to give up work and expect him to provide for her, those days are long gone
Im not saying that at all.
I asked a completely different question to the other lady"Yes but also I answered, it is allowed ya know | |||
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"We are in 2022 right? None of the women I know got into a relationship with a man for financial security
Did any of them get into a relationship with a guy who was unemployed or working a job well below theirs on the earning scale?
We all work these days fella, no one gets an easy ride anymore
I dont quite follow the context of that comment
It means both men and women (married or civil partners) have to work to survive financially right now, so even in the man has a good wage it doesn’t guarantee that the woman would be able to give up work and expect him to provide for her, those days are long gone
Im not saying that at all.
I asked a completely different question to the other lady
Yes but also I answered, it is allowed ya know "It is of course, but the question was in response to her own personal experiences ie her friends | |||
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"On the feminist debate. Can I just ask? Where is the feminist outcry over the Ukraine situation? Women can leave the country, but men must stay and fight But women are the protector's of children remember. They know best . They want equal rights but only on certain things. "Can of worms i see before me. Let's sit back and | |||
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"As I love a good debate: Women seem to get with men for financial security and stability. Men seem to get with women for attraction and sex. M2M get with each other for sex and stability.
I think broadly speaking, the first two are fairly accurate. Women will rarely marry down, by that i mean marry a guy who is less successful than them. Men will however.
There are of course , as with all things, lots of exceptionsnto the rule. "My wife married down.. always earned way more than I did.. | |||
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" Women seem to get with men for financial security and stability. " This is, of course, a massive generalisation, but if we make an assumption that maybe women on average look for financial security in a partner more than men do, is it not worth asking why? Women are still very often expected to be the stay at home partner after children are born, so of course it may be on their mind that their partners finances are important. Remove gender roles and expectations, and, unsurprisingly, people can make freer choices in their relationships. | |||
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"As I love a good debate: Women seem to get with men for financial security and stability. Men seem to get with women for attraction and sex. M2M get with each other for sex and stability. "Rash and wrong generalisations. | |||
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"Tell me: you could choose a guy on min wage or a millionaire. If you choose the latter my point is proven. Obviously not all would but a large amount would.
I'd choose a guy who made me laugh, made me feel like the only woman he needs, who I had fun with but was also able to talk to when I needed support, and who I fancied the pants off.
This year, when dating, I've met men who seem to think their amazing jobs, cars and incomes mean its ok to still be a prick.
Its not ,and never will be. "We need more wommen like you lol. Being serious I would hate to be with a woman because of my financial status. Not that I have any financial status. | |||
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"As I love a good debate: Women seem to get with men for financial security and stability." Not for... with....Would I get financially involved with a man who has debtors chasing him whilst he consumes his wage in inebriation... I provide a financially secure and stable home for my kids as a single person, any man would have to have his shit in order to stay in my life... "Men seem to get with women for attraction and sex. M2M get with each other for sex and stability. "I'm not a man so wouldn’t comment | |||
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