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"Just wondering how patriotic you fabbers are. " Id not queue for 24hrs for anything | |||
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"Also you can be patriotic and a republican! They’re not mutually exclusive! " Hallelujah! | |||
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"Also you can be patriotic and a republican! They’re not mutually exclusive! " Whaaat! You mean.? Mind blown | |||
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"Also you can be patriotic and a republican! They’re not mutually exclusive! " Oh yeah! Damn fab actually made me forget that | |||
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"Also you can be patriotic and a republican! They’re not mutually exclusive! Whaaat! You mean.? Mind blown " Haha! It seems obvious but I’ve seen people conflate them time and time again on here lol | |||
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"Knowing I couldn't use the toilet would make me need it more, so nope. No can do! " 5live said there's porta loos | |||
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"Also you can be patriotic and a republican! They’re not mutually exclusive! Whaaat! You mean.? Mind blown Haha! It seems obvious but I’ve seen people conflate them time and time again on here lol " Well yeah... We do love a good bun fight | |||
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"Each to their own but I don’t get it. Queuing for hours to see a dead body. It’s a bit grim." No one is queuing to see a dead body. They are paying their respects in person to the longest serving Head of State in British history. The total opposite of grim. | |||
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"Surely a better mark of respect would be to donate those 24 hours to one of her charitable causes?" That is a beautiful thought | |||
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"Each to their own but I don’t get it. Queuing for hours to see a dead body. It’s a bit grim. No one is queuing to see a dead body. They are paying their respects in person to the longest serving Head of State in British history. The total opposite of grim." That might be the reason but that doesn’t change what they are actually doing. I respect the Queen but I don’t need to look at her coffin to pay my respects. | |||
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"Surely a better mark of respect would be to donate those 24 hours to one of her charitable causes? That is a beautiful thought " Just imagine if all those people donated a day to charity and how much difference could be made? Or even just donated the amount it would cost them to get to and spend 24hrs in London! Charity fundraising is my day job unsurprisingly! | |||
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"I did 7 hrs in Edinburgh on Monday to file past the coffin… Why? Because I know it’s something my late mum would have wanted me to do… the fact that she means a lot to the little Caribbean island she and my relatives are from, the fact that she was almost like the nation’s grandmother…. I don’t expect people to understand why a lot of people will do it… I just hope you respect it rather than mock it! " | |||
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"Surely a better mark of respect would be to donate those 24 hours to one of her charitable causes? That is a beautiful thought Just imagine if all those people donated a day to charity and how much difference could be made? Or even just donated the amount it would cost them to get to and spend 24hrs in London! Charity fundraising is my day job unsurprisingly! " My job is related to charities too x | |||
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"Surely a better mark of respect would be to donate those 24 hours to one of her charitable causes? That is a beautiful thought Just imagine if all those people donated a day to charity and how much difference could be made? Or even just donated the amount it would cost them to get to and spend 24hrs in London! Charity fundraising is my day job unsurprisingly! My job is related to charities too x" | |||
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"I was working otherwise yes I would. However you feel about monarchy or the Queen it’s a moment in history I won’t see again in my lifetime. Probably not for generations. " Charles is 70 odd. Probably won't be generations. | |||
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"I was working otherwise yes I would. However you feel about monarchy or the Queen it’s a moment in history I won’t see again in my lifetime. Probably not for generations. Charles is 70 odd. Probably won't be generations. " Not same thing though. Elizabeth’s first PM was Churchill. 70 years on the throne. Seen everything. Ww2 to AI. Astonishing. | |||
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"I did 7 hrs in Edinburgh on Monday to file past the coffin… Why? Because I know it’s something my late mum would have wanted me to do… the fact that she means a lot to the little Caribbean island she and my relatives are from, the fact that she was almost like the nation’s grandmother…. I don’t expect people to understand why a lot of people will do it… I just hope you respect it rather than mock it! " Wise words. | |||
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"No, however I will see the hearse carrying the coffin to Windsor on Monday, my little way of showing some respect. " | |||
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"I did 7 hrs in Edinburgh on Monday to file past the coffin… Why? Because I know it’s something my late mum would have wanted me to do… the fact that she means a lot to the little Caribbean island she and my relatives are from, the fact that she was almost like the nation’s grandmother…. I don’t expect people to understand why a lot of people will do it… I just hope you respect it rather than mock it! " | |||
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"Nope. I honestly see neither the point, nor do I think for one second that the Queen would expect it either. Aside from the cost element, the idea of people needing to queue to spend seconds next to a possibly (according to potentially unfounded claims) empty coffin of someone they had no close familial ties with, is more than a little strange to me. I can think of dozens of people who have done plenty for charity, served their communities for life, contributed hugely to society in terms of scientific advances/works of art/medical breakthroughs.....and yet nobody would dream of doing the same for them? Will there be the same queues forming when Attenborough passes or Sir Terence English? You can show respect in far better ways than this. A" Are you the respect police then? Or do you think people might choose to show respect in their own way? | |||
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"Nope. I honestly see neither the point, nor do I think for one second that the Queen would expect it either. Aside from the cost element, the idea of people needing to queue to spend seconds next to a possibly (according to potentially unfounded claims) empty coffin of someone they had no close familial ties with, is more than a little strange to me. I can think of dozens of people who have done plenty for charity, served their communities for life, contributed hugely to society in terms of scientific advances/works of art/medical breakthroughs.....and yet nobody would dream of doing the same for them? Will there be the same queues forming when Attenborough passes or Sir Terence English? You can show respect in far better ways than this. A Are you the respect police then? Or do you think people might choose to show respect in their own way? " The OP's question asked what I'd do. I answered for me. Nobody else. Others can of course do as they wish. Such as accuse people of being the 'respect police' for having a different viewpoint. A | |||
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"Just wondering how patriotic you fabbers are. " Wouldn’t queue 5 minutes | |||
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"I couldn’t be arsed to go see her at any events she was at when she was alive so definitely not now she’s dead. And absolutely not waiting in a queue for that long. " | |||
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"For Wales hell yeah." You mean like if Wales were to die and got put in a coffin then displayed in a large hall? | |||
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"No I wouldn't. I have links with her military and public services, wore her uniforms for 40 years and utmost respect for her. I will watch the funeral on TV. We all pay our respects in our own way." Pretty much the same albeit 4 yrs less and have nothing but the highest regard for the duty and service she gave to the country.. But I also echo what Fabio said about people respecting other peoples choices and decisions and not mocking them for that.. | |||
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"I did 7 hrs in Edinburgh on Monday to file past the coffin… Why? Because I know it’s something my late mum would have wanted me to do… the fact that she means a lot to the little Caribbean island she and my relatives are from, the fact that she was almost like the nation’s grandmother…. I don’t expect people to understand why a lot of people will do it… I just hope you respect it rather than mock it! " Spot on. People show their respects in the way they choose, no one needs to understand why they do it a certain way | |||
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"Nope. I honestly see neither the point, nor do I think for one second that the Queen would expect it either. Aside from the cost element, the idea of people needing to queue to spend seconds next to a possibly (according to potentially unfounded claims) empty coffin of someone they had no close familial ties with, is more than a little strange to me. I can think of dozens of people who have done plenty for charity, served their communities for life, contributed hugely to society in terms of scientific advances/works of art/medical breakthroughs.....and yet nobody would dream of doing the same for them? Will there be the same queues forming when Attenborough passes or Sir Terence English? You can show respect in far better ways than this. A" I'll be at the front of the queue when Sir David passes, I will genuinely be upset when that day comes. I'm going (hopefully) via the accessible queue to Westminster Hall at some point tomorrow. | |||
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"I would not queue to be part of that circus -- watching it unfold says a lot about the intelligence of our nation. However, licking a boot while it stamps on your face is a pretty impressive feat." Great point, well made! | |||
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"Nah not a minute or a second she did nothing for me I didn't know her hell she didn't even know I existed same with 99.99% of the UK " Fact! Well said | |||
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"I did 7 hrs in Edinburgh on Monday to file past the coffin… Why? Because I know it’s something my late mum would have wanted me to do… the fact that she means a lot to the little Caribbean island she and my relatives are from, the fact that she was almost like the nation’s grandmother…. I don’t expect people to understand why a lot of people will do it… I just hope you respect it rather than mock it! " This The Queen meant so much to people in different ways and for different reasons, nobody should be mocked for showing respect in the way they wish too. I wouldn't be able to cope with the crowds or the queues and I am paying my respects my way Tbf I am enjoying the crowd coverage and the myriad of people who are being asked their thoughts. Everyone has given answers meaningful to them. I think in these times of disconnection it is important for people to be together, strangers who have become friends sharing through the mutual connection that is the Queen. Maybe the lonely won't be so lonely now and I think the Queen would of approved of that. | |||
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"For Wales hell yeah. You mean like if Wales were to die and got put in a coffin then displayed in a large hall?" No I'm patriotic for my country Wales. | |||
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"I did 7 hrs in Edinburgh on Monday to file past the coffin… Why? Because I know it’s something my late mum would have wanted me to do… the fact that she means a lot to the little Caribbean island she and my relatives are from, the fact that she was almost like the nation’s grandmother…. I don’t expect people to understand why a lot of people will do it… I just hope you respect it rather than mock it! This The Queen meant so much to people in different ways and for different reasons, nobody should be mocked for showing respect in the way they wish too. I wouldn't be able to cope with the crowds or the queues and I am paying my respects my way Tbf I am enjoying the crowd coverage and the myriad of people who are being asked their thoughts. Everyone has given answers meaningful to them. I think in these times of disconnection it is important for people to be together, strangers who have become friends sharing through the mutual connection that is the Queen. Maybe the lonely won't be so lonely now and I think the Queen would of approved of that." | |||
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"Just wondering how patriotic you fabbers are. " Yes when she was alive and maybe to shake her hand but no not to see the coffin No disrespect to the lady but I just wouldn’t | |||
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"I did 7 hrs in Edinburgh on Monday to file past the coffin… Why? Because I know it’s something my late mum would have wanted me to do… the fact that she means a lot to the little Caribbean island she and my relatives are from, the fact that she was almost like the nation’s grandmother…. I don’t expect people to understand why a lot of people will do it… I just hope you respect it rather than mock it! This The Queen meant so much to people in different ways and for different reasons, nobody should be mocked for showing respect in the way they wish too. I wouldn't be able to cope with the crowds or the queues and I am paying my respects my way Tbf I am enjoying the crowd coverage and the myriad of people who are being asked their thoughts. Everyone has given answers meaningful to them. I think in these times of disconnection it is important for people to be together, strangers who have become friends sharing through the mutual connection that is the Queen. Maybe the lonely won't be so lonely now and I think the Queen would of approved of that." | |||
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"I bet not one person who has queued regrets it. It seems like an inspiring act of collective solidarity and memory. " There was a guy on the radio who left the queue after five hours because he said other people there were disrespectful and more interested in trying to spot celebrities then any act of observance. He regretted it. Can’t imagine he’s the only one. | |||
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"I bet not one person who has queued regrets it. It seems like an inspiring act of collective solidarity and memory. There was a guy on the radio who left the queue after five hours because he said other people there were disrespectful and more interested in trying to spot celebrities then any act of observance. He regretted it. Can’t imagine he’s the only one." There's always one. | |||
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"Nope. It’s bloody ridiculous. If the done that in prisons the government would get done for torture. And there’s people with young kids etc. worlds gone bloody mad " Why do you think the worlds gone mad? It’s personal choice. It’s hardly a new thing, look back to previous funerals and they drew similar crowds. | |||
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"Nope. It’s bloody ridiculous. If the done that in prisons the government would get done for torture. And there’s people with young kids etc. worlds gone bloody mad " Somewhat unusual view of torture but hey.. Opinions. | |||
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"Nothing unifies our country quite like hating on something... First it was the China virus, then it was Boris, now its the Queen. As the musician laureate mused... Haters gonna hate. " | |||
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"Just wondering how patriotic you fabbers are. Id not queue for 24hrs for anything " This. And especially that! | |||
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"It’s personal choice. It’s hardly a new thing, look back to previous funerals and they drew similar crowds. " Have you ever heard of Stockholm Syndrome? | |||
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"It’s personal choice. It’s hardly a new thing, look back to previous funerals and they drew similar crowds. Have you ever heard of Stockholm Syndrome? " Yes.its when captors start to bond with the abductors... Did you perhaps mean herd mentality..like people going to watch Everton football club.. for no obvious reason. | |||
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"It’s personal choice. It’s hardly a new thing, look back to previous funerals and they drew similar crowds. Have you ever heard of Stockholm Syndrome? " I don’t think you’ve got that quite right | |||
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"It’s personal choice. It’s hardly a new thing, look back to previous funerals and they drew similar crowds. Have you ever heard of Stockholm Syndrome? I don’t think you’ve got that quite right " | |||
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"No. Not even 24 minutes. Not 24 seconds. " Not even to get a selfie with David Beckham To the Op, not even to get a selfie with Becks or to see a wooden box. I’ll queue for a Greggs when I’m hungry but definitely not for a Royal, dead or alive. | |||
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"Would rather go pub " ^ he drinks at The Queen's Head. | |||
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"It’s personal choice. It’s hardly a new thing, look back to previous funerals and they drew similar crowds. Have you ever heard of Stockholm Syndrome? " Yes. Have you? Winston | |||
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"No. Not even 24 minutes. Not 24 seconds. Not even to get a selfie with David Beckham To the Op, not even to get a selfie with Becks or to see a wooden box. I’ll queue for a Greggs when I’m hungry but definitely not for a Royal, dead or alive. " Not for a selfie with anyone! I don't think I have an idol ......... I'll have to think of someone i'd queue for. | |||
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"It’s personal choice. It’s hardly a new thing, look back to previous funerals and they drew similar crowds. Have you ever heard of Stockholm Syndrome? " Wrong definition | |||
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"Do these people not have jobs to go to " Probably. And they probably book a day's leave to pay their respects. Winston | |||
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"Do these people not have jobs to go to " Groom of the stool...? | |||
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"Nah I rather stay at home in my pyjamas and have a cup of tea in the company of eunuchs. " • And no one will judge you for this. Respect. | |||
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"Do these people not have jobs to go to " Who knows. It's their business though. If they want to. And if they don't.. Its reasonable to allow them space and time as we do for other things. Like queuing up for tickets to see anyone or anything else. Some do.. Some don't.... | |||
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"Nah I rather stay at home in my pyjamas and have a cup of tea in the company of eunuchs. • And no one will judge you for this. Respect." Yes. I think, to each their own is a great attitude to have | |||
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"Also you can be patriotic and a republican! They’re not mutually exclusive! Whaaat! You mean.? Mind blown Haha! It seems obvious but I’ve seen people conflate them time and time again on here lol " 100% agree although I finding there is less and less to be proud of of late as we lurch further to the right. | |||
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"Knowing I couldn't use the toilet would make me need it more, so nope. No can do! " Toilets are available?! Thats the point of the wristband so you can nip out and come back | |||
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"I did 7 hrs in Edinburgh on Monday to file past the coffin… Why? Because I know it’s something my late mum would have wanted me to do… the fact that she means a lot to the little Caribbean island she and my relatives are from, the fact that she was almost like the nation’s grandmother…. I don’t expect people to understand why a lot of people will do it… I just hope you respect it rather than mock it! " This. We are all able to choose ( or not) to pay our respects.. The way we decide is our own. Some feel the need to do it in person | |||
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"Nope. I honestly see neither the point, nor do I think for one second that the Queen would expect it either. Aside from the cost element, the idea of people needing to queue to spend seconds next to a possibly (according to potentially unfounded claims) empty coffin of someone they had no close familial ties with, is more than a little strange to me. I can think of dozens of people who have done plenty for charity, served their communities for life, contributed hugely to society in terms of scientific advances/works of art/medical breakthroughs.....and yet nobody would dream of doing the same for them? Will there be the same queues forming when Attenborough passes or Sir Terence English? You can show respect in far better ways than this. A" In your opinion. These people feel this is their way to show respect No need to dis them for it | |||
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"I am astounded that people think they should be telling others how to express their grief of whatever else they may be feeling. It's sad also that whilst someone has not even be buried yet that people should bring so much politics into it or condone actions of disrespect. Time and place springs to mind " Agree, but it's only the internet. In real life everyone I've met is respectful to those going to London and interested in their experiences. | |||
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"Nope. I honestly see neither the point, nor do I think for one second that the Queen would expect it either. Aside from the cost element, the idea of people needing to queue to spend seconds next to a possibly (according to potentially unfounded claims) empty coffin of someone they had no close familial ties with, is more than a little strange to me. I can think of dozens of people who have done plenty for charity, served their communities for life, contributed hugely to society in terms of scientific advances/works of art/medical breakthroughs.....and yet nobody would dream of doing the same for them? Will there be the same queues forming when Attenborough passes or Sir Terence English? You can show respect in far better ways than this. A In your opinion. These people feel this is their way to show respect No need to dis them for it" You obviously chose to skim past my previous reply to someone attempting to make the same point. If you scroll back up you'll see it. A | |||
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"I am astounded that people think they should be telling others how to express their grief of whatever else they may be feeling. It's sad also that whilst someone has not even be buried yet that people should bring so much politics into it or condone actions of disrespect. Time and place springs to mind Agree, but it's only the internet. In real life everyone I've met is respectful to those going to London and interested in their experiences." We had a very positive experience of the so-called "accessible" queue today. Very lovely people all around us, supportive and kind. We met two ladies who would have to stay overnight in London to take advantage of their accessible time slot but had no accommodation. A couple they met in the queue invited them to stay the night with them. Things like that. And my 5yo had a brilliant day and is now fast asleep. She didn't quibble or misbehave or argue or frankly do anything negative all day long (and I'm talking waking up at 7am and only back here to bed after 11.30pm). | |||
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"I am astounded that people think they should be telling others how to express their grief of whatever else they may be feeling. It's sad also that whilst someone has not even be buried yet that people should bring so much politics into it or condone actions of disrespect. Time and place springs to mind Agree, but it's only the internet. In real life everyone I've met is respectful to those going to London and interested in their experiences. We had a very positive experience of the so-called "accessible" queue today. Very lovely people all around us, supportive and kind. We met two ladies who would have to stay overnight in London to take advantage of their accessible time slot but had no accommodation. A couple they met in the queue invited them to stay the night with them. Things like that. And my 5yo had a brilliant day and is now fast asleep. She didn't quibble or misbehave or argue or frankly do anything negative all day long (and I'm talking waking up at 7am and only back here to bed after 11.30pm). " • Beautiful. | |||
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"I am astounded that people think they should be telling others how to express their grief of whatever else they may be feeling. It's sad also that whilst someone has not even be buried yet that people should bring so much politics into it or condone actions of disrespect. Time and place springs to mind Agree, but it's only the internet. In real life everyone I've met is respectful to those going to London and interested in their experiences. We had a very positive experience of the so-called "accessible" queue today. Very lovely people all around us, supportive and kind. We met two ladies who would have to stay overnight in London to take advantage of their accessible time slot but had no accommodation. A couple they met in the queue invited them to stay the night with them. Things like that. And my 5yo had a brilliant day and is now fast asleep. She didn't quibble or misbehave or argue or frankly do anything negative all day long (and I'm talking waking up at 7am and only back here to bed after 11.30pm). " | |||
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"I am astounded that people think they should be telling others how to express their grief of whatever else they may be feeling. It's sad also that whilst someone has not even be buried yet that people should bring so much politics into it or condone actions of disrespect. Time and place springs to mind Agree, but it's only the internet. In real life everyone I've met is respectful to those going to London and interested in their experiences. We had a very positive experience of the so-called "accessible" queue today. Very lovely people all around us, supportive and kind. We met two ladies who would have to stay overnight in London to take advantage of their accessible time slot but had no accommodation. A couple they met in the queue invited them to stay the night with them. Things like that. And my 5yo had a brilliant day and is now fast asleep. She didn't quibble or misbehave or argue or frankly do anything negative all day long (and I'm talking waking up at 7am and only back here to bed after 11.30pm). " How fantastic KC, memories for a lifetime x | |||
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"Do these people not have jobs to go to " Not everybody works Monday to Friday. Plus it's currently the weekend anyway. | |||
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"No. I don't get it personally as you just see a coffin with a flag draped over it for a few seconds and you must be in so much pain by the time you get there after all that queuing. Each to their own though. " It was an incredibly emotional and awe filled experience, certainly not just "a coffin with a flag draped over it" | |||
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"It’s personal choice. It’s hardly a new thing, look back to previous funerals and they drew similar crowds. Have you ever heard of Stockholm Syndrome? I don’t think you’ve got that quite right " Not really -- the entire royal circus is funded by wealth from centuries of serfdom, theft, the commodification of humans and subjugation of ordinary people. They are the biggest and most powerful crime family ever. If you love your oppressor, then the definition is a close fit. | |||
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