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"Men are (socially) allowed to be. Not that they are inherently " ^^^This | |||
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"Women are more prude then men... It seems men are more sexually active/ willing to explore more than females. Debate.. "No. No And no again. | |||
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"I thought it was just an insult thrown a woman's way when she won't do what a man wants her to " This too. | |||
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"Not applicable to some of the women I’ve met off Fab! Make me look a proper prude in comparison! I think the exterior can sometimes hide the inner animal .. looks can be deceiving! " Men are decieved by their own expectations....... | |||
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"There just isn't enough fucking bandwidth in the interverse to lay down everything I hold incorrect about the O.P. " *Hands Granny a dongle*  | |||
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"Why are.you all so worried. You only live once. Men seem to be more sexually active quicker without the chase, wanted ness bit..no criticism of females just very blatant observation and experience. "A very limited perspective | |||
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"Why are.you all so worried. You only live once. Men seem to be more sexually active quicker without the chase, wanted ness bit..no criticism of females just very blatant observation and experience. "1. Social blowback is very real. Reputation matters. 2. Creeps are irritating to deal with. I'd rather them assume that I'm a prude 3. Assumptions about safety. I don't know how much this is upbringing, differences in size, culture, but it's a factor. I've often said, I want to go home after a meet, not the hospital or morgue. | |||
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"Why are.you all so worried. You only live once. Men seem to be more sexually active quicker without the chase, wanted ness bit..no criticism of females just very blatant observation and experience. "Men fuck anyone? Yeah you're right there. | |||
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"Women are more prude then men... It seems men are more sexually active/ willing to explore more than females. Debate..
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"If I admitted in public what I'm like in my head, I'd get a whole heap of blowback from people who feel the need to police my sexuality, and a lot of attention from creeps. I'm quite happy to maintain the illusion that I'm a prude. Makes for a quiet life." Good for you. Enjoy who you are. But you are not alone. Last few months I've been seeing a woman, my own age, who is direct, hungry and confident in her sexuality. Has been a revelation, and very refreshing. | |||
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"Not applicable to some of the women I’ve met off Fab! Make me look a proper prude in comparison! I think the exterior can sometimes hide the inner animal .. looks can be deceiving! Men are decieved by their own expectations....... " Is there an applause emoji? | |||
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"Why are.you all so worried. You only live once. Men seem to be more sexually active quicker without the chase, wanted ness bit..no criticism of females just very blatant observation and experience. "You get that it's mostly male judgment a d labelling non prudish women as sluts that is part of the problem, right? | |||
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"Think about the language used about women and men. OP, your thread title is 'Prude'. How many read that and thought about men as prudes? You then reinforce that it is about women, really. My debate point is that I am judged differently if I disclose how many people I have fucked. I am treated differently if I offer myself up in a club. Even men on here have told me that they don't like it if they see too many verifications. I think men are quite prudish in many ways. " This | |||
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"Why are.you all so worried. You only live once. Men seem to be more sexually active quicker without the chase, wanted ness bit..no criticism of females just very blatant observation and experience.
You get that it's mostly male judgment a d labelling non prudish women as sluts that is part of the problem, right?"No he doesn't. He thinks he is liberating women. | |||
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"Why are.you all so worried. You only live once. Men seem to be more sexually active quicker without the chase, wanted ness bit..no criticism of females just very blatant observation and experience.
You get that it's mostly male judgment a d labelling non prudish women as sluts that is part of the problem, right?
No he doesn't. He thinks he is liberating women."One or two of us might have given it some thought. Maybe. | |||
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"Me personally? This isn't about me,it was a general statement to see what everyone view is..." Well I'm calling bullshit on your O.P. Nice skiddies chicken x | |||
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"This seems to be another one of those threads where a man makes assumptions about women and gets it horribly wrong. Why is it that it so rarely happens the other way round......
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"Lol. It just appears men seem to be more open with their sexual feelings and wants. Women like to play a kind of chase then not let on what they are after. This is my opinion which I'm entitled to, some will disagree.. "Anyone can have an opinion. Whether that opinion stands up to scrutiny is another matter..... Unsubstantiated opinions are very often harmful to sections of society. | |||
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"Lol. It just appears men seem to be more open with their sexual feelings and wants. Women like to play a kind of chase then not let on what they are after. This is my opinion which I'm entitled to, some will disagree..
Anyone can have an opinion. Whether that opinion stands up to scrutiny is another matter.....
Unsubstantiated opinions are very often harmful to sections of society."It’s true! Yours, A Black guy. | |||
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"Lol. It just appears men seem to be more open with their sexual feelings and wants. Women like to play a kind of chase then not let on what they are after. This is my opinion which I'm entitled to, some will disagree.. "Good opinion. Mine is, guys are open about their fantasies. To an extent. All the women I know are too, and they actively pursue their fantasies, talk about them and make them happen instead of wanking off into an unsolicited message. Hashtag not all ect.  | |||
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"I don't know why, but this whole conversation reminds me of being called frigid when I wouldn't let a lad finger me when I was [age redacted]. I have no idea why "Don't forget the bitch bit ...... or my absolute fave...... lezzer | |||
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"Lol. It just appears men seem to be more open with their sexual feelings and wants. Women like to play a kind of chase then not let on what they are after. This is my opinion which I'm entitled to, some will disagree.. "Yes, I agree that it seems so to you, for reasons which some of us have outlined above. | |||
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"I don't know why, but this whole conversation reminds me of being called frigid when I wouldn't let a lad finger me when I was [age redacted]. I have no idea why "Understandable. Because this thread is giving that secondary school boy vibe | |||
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"If I admitted in public what I'm like in my head, I'd get a whole heap of blowback from people who feel the need to police my sexuality, and a lot of attention from creeps. I'm quite happy to maintain the illusion that I'm a prude. Makes for a quiet life." • You could have been economical with your words and just said you're a Tasmanian. We would have got the gist then. | |||
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"Women are more prude then men... It seems men are more sexually active/ willing to explore more than females. Debate.. "Which ever answer gets most texts... Yes, no, maybe, | |||
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"If I admitted in public what I'm like in my head, I'd get a whole heap of blowback from people who feel the need to police my sexuality, and a lot of attention from creeps. I'm quite happy to maintain the illusion that I'm a prude. Makes for a quiet life. • You could have been economical with your words and just said you're a Tasmanian. We would have got the gist then. "I'm not into that, behave  | |||
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"If I admitted in public what I'm like in my head, I'd get a whole heap of blowback from people who feel the need to police my sexuality, and a lot of attention from creeps. I'm quite happy to maintain the illusion that I'm a prude. Makes for a quiet life. • You could have been economical with your words and just said you're a Tasmanian. We would have got the gist then.
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"Are we defining a prude as a woman who doesn't really derive joy from talking about sex? Cos if so, I think that's silly " No one has said what it is. I'm thinking it's a wrinkled old fruit ( not Quentin Crisp ) in a can of juice. | |||
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"If I admitted in public what I'm like in my head, I'd get a whole heap of blowback from people who feel the need to police my sexuality, and a lot of attention from creeps. I'm quite happy to maintain the illusion that I'm a prude. Makes for a quiet life. • You could have been economical with your words and just said you're a Tasmanian. We would have got the gist then.
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"Me personally? This isn't about me,it was a general statement to see what everyone view is..." These threads always give away something about the OP. Also the premise of this sort of thread is almost always equivalent to a newspaper headline that’s asks a questions: Betteridges Law of Headlines states that the answer is always no. Anyone that frames a statement as a question because that way they don’t have to justify their position has a weak argument. | |||
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"Lol. It just appears men seem to be more open with their sexual feelings and wants. Women like to play a kind of chase then not let on what they are after. This is my opinion which I'm entitled to, some will disagree.. "As some have said and even todayit’s for the most part true, Men are encouraged to be sexually active women are not. We live in a patriarchy (not man bashing just a fact) so men have made the societal rules for hundreds of years. Women were not allowed to be sexual because men want to make sure there “line” is assured. It’s pretty basic behaviour veiled by religion and society etc. Most men want to fuck a slut but marry a virgin. Holds true to some extent even today and even here there’s a strong undercurrent of it even here | |||
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"Me personally? This isn't about me,it was a general statement to see what everyone view is... These threads always give away something about the OP. Also the premise of this sort of thread is almost always equivalent to a newspaper headline that’s asks a questions: Betteridges Law of Headlines states that the answer is always no. Anyone that frames a statement as a question because that way they don’t have to justify their position has a weak argument. " I think you are right , don't I ? | |||
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"This thread has shown me that people take things personally, and then decide to be prude . "Fixed that for ya | |||
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"Women are more prude then men... It seems men are more sexually active/ willing to explore more than females. Debate.. "I can see the grief youre getting in here OP, and it was inevitable. Having said that, discussion is always good once kept civil. My thoughts; lets use fab as a borometer. Look at the imbalance in numbers on here between men and women. Men, on average, are far far more interested in casual sex than women. I know thats not exactly the answer to the question, but its pretty close | |||
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"This thread has shown me that people take things personally, and then decide to be prude .
Fixed that for ya "• | |||
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"If I admitted in public what I'm like in my head, I'd get a whole heap of blowback from people who feel the need to police my sexuality, and a lot of attention from creeps. I'm quite happy to maintain the illusion that I'm a prude. Makes for a quiet life. • You could have been economical with your words and just said you're a Tasmanian. We would have got the gist then.
I'm not into that, behave
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"Women are more prude then men... It seems men are more sexually active/ willing to explore more than females. Debate..
I can see the grief youre getting in here OP, and it was inevitable. Having said that, discussion is always good once kept civil.
My thoughts; lets use fab as a borometer. Look at the imbalance in numbers on here between men and women.
Men, on average, are far far more interested in casual sex than women. I know thats not exactly the answer to the question, but its pretty close"Correct though | |||
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"This thread has shown me that people take things personally, and then decide to be prude .
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"Women are more prude then men... It seems men are more sexually active/ willing to explore more than females. Debate.. "Am pretty prude I don't see that as a word excusive to or with connotations to just women... Depends on the lense you view ut through... abundantly obvious in here as per usual. But I'd suggest I was prude... until i am more connected and settled, then quite the opposite. I think in general that would cover most people. | |||
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"Women are more prude then men... It seems men are more sexually active/ willing to explore more than females. Debate..
I can see the grief youre getting in here OP, and it was inevitable. Having said that, discussion is always good once kept civil.
My thoughts; lets use fab as a borometer. Look at the imbalance in numbers on here between men and women.
Men, on average, are far far more interested in casual sex than women. I know thats not exactly the answer to the question, but its pretty close"Maybe but he said women are more prudish. Casual sex didn't come into it. You can have all the casual sex in the world and still be a prude. | |||
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"This thread has shown me that people take things personally, and then decide to be rude . "You do seem to have got a bit of a slating here  . Hope that’s not why you hid. | |||
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"Merriam Webster Dictionary definition: Definition of prude : a person who is excessively or priggishly attentive to propriety or decorum especially : a woman who shows or affects extreme modesty Note the last bit. It's used to refer mainly to women who "show extreme modesty". Like it's bad to be modest (if that's what you choose). And you wonder why people (mainly women) object?" If your remove the single guys for arguments sake to even the numbers out and look at couples profiles, then you’d quite easily make the assumption that men are modest as fuck when you do a quick genitals pic count  | |||
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"Women are more prude then men... It seems men are more sexually active/ willing to explore more than females. Debate..
I can see the grief youre getting in here OP, and it was inevitable. Having said that, discussion is always good once kept civil.
My thoughts; lets use fab as a borometer. Look at the imbalance in numbers on here between men and women.
Men, on average, are far far more interested in casual sex than women. I know thats not exactly the answer to the question, but its pretty close
Maybe but he said women are more prudish.
Casual sex didn't come into it. You can have all the casual sex in the world and still be a prude. "Can you? Im not sure. My understanding of the word is that someone prudish would not partake in casual sex | |||
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"Look up modest ......... we need that Modest = Ms Peacock "I can see your bra strap Mrs. Modest | |||
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"This thread has shown me that people take things personally, and then decide to be rude .
You do seem to have got a bit of a slating here . Hope that’s not why you hid. "I don’t think so, the OP asked for debate. I too looked up the definition of prude. It does tend to refer to women but not exclusively. I think most would agree it’s a term used negatively mostly. I think it’s been quite an enlightening post. Well done OP | |||
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I can see your bra strap Mrs. Modest"I’ve nae knickers on … but sitting in the dark … prudishy | |||
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"Women are more prude then men... It seems men are more sexually active/ willing to explore more than females. Debate..
I can see the grief youre getting in here OP, and it was inevitable. Having said that, discussion is always good once kept civil.
My thoughts; lets use fab as a borometer. Look at the imbalance in numbers on here between men and women.
Men, on average, are far far more interested in casual sex than women. I know thats not exactly the answer to the question, but its pretty close
Maybe but he said women are more prudish.
Casual sex didn't come into it. You can have all the casual sex in the world and still be a prude.
Can you? Im not sure. My understanding of the word is that someone prudish would not partake in casual sex"My definition of prude would be the kinds of acts that are taken or not taken part in ..... not the number of times or partners. e.g. sex 20 times per week in the missionary = prudish or not Sex once a month dancing round a bonfire in a dogging car park and shagging a random man whilst blindfold.... = not prudish .... or maybe they are | |||
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"Merriam Webster Dictionary definition: Definition of prude : a person who is excessively or priggishly attentive to propriety or decorum especially : a woman who shows or affects extreme modesty Note the last bit. It's used to refer mainly to women who "show extreme modesty". Like it's bad to be modest (if that's what you choose). And you wonder why people (mainly women) object?" Other British dictionarys are available. | |||
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"Merriam Webster Dictionary definition: Definition of prude : a person who is excessively or priggishly attentive to propriety or decorum especially : a woman who shows or affects extreme modesty Note the last bit. It's used to refer mainly to women who "show extreme modesty". Like it's bad to be modest (if that's what you choose). And you wonder why people (mainly women) object? Other British dictionarys are available." Correct. I'll look it up in the Concise Oxford | |||
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"Women are more prude then men... It seems men are more sexually active/ willing to explore more than females. Debate..
I can see the grief youre getting in here OP, and it was inevitable. Having said that, discussion is always good once kept civil.
My thoughts; lets use fab as a borometer. Look at the imbalance in numbers on here between men and women.
Men, on average, are far far more interested in casual sex than women. I know thats not exactly the answer to the question, but its pretty close
Maybe but he said women are more prudish.
Casual sex didn't come into it. You can have all the casual sex in the world and still be a prude.
Can you? Im not sure. My understanding of the word is that someone prudish would not partake in casual sex"My understanding is its the subject not the act. | |||
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"Women are more prude then men... It seems men are more sexually active/ willing to explore more than females. Debate..
I can see the grief youre getting in here OP, and it was inevitable. Having said that, discussion is always good once kept civil.
My thoughts; lets use fab as a borometer. Look at the imbalance in numbers on here between men and women.
Men, on average, are far far more interested in casual sex than women. I know thats not exactly the answer to the question, but its pretty close
Maybe but he said women are more prudish.
Casual sex didn't come into it. You can have all the casual sex in the world and still be a prude.
Can you? Im not sure. My understanding of the word is that someone prudish would not partake in casual sex
My definition of prude would be the kinds of acts that are taken or not taken part in ..... not the number of times or partners. e.g. sex 20 times per week in the missionary = prudish or not
Sex once a month dancing round a bonfire in a dogging car park and shagging a random man whilst blindfold.... = not prudish .... or maybe they are
"Good point, one man’s (or woman’s) kinky is another man (or woman’s) kinky… also prudish is in the eye of the beholder??? | |||
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"Women are more prude then men... It seems men are more sexually active/ willing to explore more than females. Debate..
I can see the grief youre getting in here OP, and it was inevitable. Having said that, discussion is always good once kept civil.
My thoughts; lets use fab as a borometer. Look at the imbalance in numbers on here between men and women.
Men, on average, are far far more interested in casual sex than women. I know thats not exactly the answer to the question, but its pretty close
Maybe but he said women are more prudish.
Casual sex didn't come into it. You can have all the casual sex in the world and still be a prude.
Can you? Im not sure. My understanding of the word is that someone prudish would not partake in casual sex
My definition of prude would be the kinds of acts that are taken or not taken part in ..... not the number of times or partners. e.g. sex 20 times per week in the missionary = prudish or not
Sex once a month dancing round a bonfire in a dogging car park and shagging a random man whilst blindfold.... = not prudish .... or maybe they are
"Guess we'll have to disagree on what counts as prudish so, which unfortunately is central to the thread. OP, can you give us your understanding on what a prude is? That would help | |||
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"Women are more prude then men... It seems men are more sexually active/ willing to explore more than females. Debate..
I can see the grief youre getting in here OP, and it was inevitable. Having said that, discussion is always good once kept civil.
My thoughts; lets use fab as a borometer. Look at the imbalance in numbers on here between men and women.
Men, on average, are far far more interested in casual sex than women. I know thats not exactly the answer to the question, but its pretty close"What grief? The OP said 'debate'. As the whole debate is based on a poorly framed questment it is a mixture of experience and opinion. The OP also said that he's entitled to his opinion, so does that not hold true for others? | |||
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"Women are more prude then men... It seems men are more sexually active/ willing to explore more than females. Debate..
I can see the grief youre getting in here OP, and it was inevitable. Having said that, discussion is always good once kept civil.
My thoughts; lets use fab as a borometer. Look at the imbalance in numbers on here between men and women.
Men, on average, are far far more interested in casual sex than women. I know thats not exactly the answer to the question, but its pretty close
What grief? The OP said 'debate'. As the whole debate is based on a poorly framed questment it is a mixture of experience and opinion. The OP also said that he's entitled to his opinion, so does that not hold true for others?
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"a person that you think is too easily shocked by things connected with sex" Oh look... the subject not the act. | |||
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"Women are more prude then men... It seems men are more sexually active/ willing to explore more than females. Debate..
I can see the grief youre getting in here OP, and it was inevitable. Having said that, discussion is always good once kept civil.
My thoughts; lets use fab as a borometer. Look at the imbalance in numbers on here between men and women.
Men, on average, are far far more interested in casual sex than women. I know thats not exactly the answer to the question, but its pretty close
What grief? The OP said 'debate'. As the whole debate is based on a poorly framed questment it is a mixture of experience and opinion. The OP also said that he's entitled to his opinion, so does that not hold true for others?
Yes, as i said discussion is good oncr civil.
And why is the question poorly framed? Its an honest question. If he framed it differently then it would be another question. And he didnt want to ask another question or presumably he would have done that"At the risk of being labelled a pedant - He never asked a question. | |||
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"Women are more prude then men... It seems men are more sexually active/ willing to explore more than females. Debate..
I can see the grief youre getting in here OP, and it was inevitable. Having said that, discussion is always good once kept civil.
My thoughts; lets use fab as a borometer. Look at the imbalance in numbers on here between men and women.
Men, on average, are far far more interested in casual sex than women. I know thats not exactly the answer to the question, but its pretty close
What grief? The OP said 'debate'. As the whole debate is based on a poorly framed questment it is a mixture of experience and opinion. The OP also said that he's entitled to his opinion, so does that not hold true for others?
Yes, as i said discussion is good oncr civil.
And why is the question poorly framed? Its an honest question. If he framed it differently then it would be another question. And he didnt want to ask another question or presumably he would have done that
At the risk of being labelled a pedant - He never asked a question."Pedant | |||
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"Women are more prude then men... It seems men are more sexually active/ willing to explore more than females. Debate..
I can see the grief youre getting in here OP, and it was inevitable. Having said that, discussion is always good once kept civil.
My thoughts; lets use fab as a borometer. Look at the imbalance in numbers on here between men and women.
Men, on average, are far far more interested in casual sex than women. I know thats not exactly the answer to the question, but its pretty close
What grief? The OP said 'debate'. As the whole debate is based on a poorly framed questment it is a mixture of experience and opinion. The OP also said that he's entitled to his opinion, so does that not hold true for others?
Yes, as i said discussion is good oncr civil.
And why is the question poorly framed? Its an honest question. If he framed it differently then it would be another question. And he didnt want to ask another question or presumably he would have done that"What question? | |||
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"Women are more prude then men... It seems men are more sexually active/ willing to explore more than females. Debate..
I can see the grief youre getting in here OP, and it was inevitable. Having said that, discussion is always good once kept civil.
My thoughts; lets use fab as a borometer. Look at the imbalance in numbers on here between men and women.
Men, on average, are far far more interested in casual sex than women. I know thats not exactly the answer to the question, but its pretty close
What grief? The OP said 'debate'. As the whole debate is based on a poorly framed questment it is a mixture of experience and opinion. The OP also said that he's entitled to his opinion, so does that not hold true for others?
Yes, as i said discussion is good oncr civil.
And why is the question poorly framed? Its an honest question. If he framed it differently then it would be another question. And he didnt want to ask another question or presumably he would have done that"The framing has generated the responses. It starts with the statement that women are more prudish than men. As a result we have not discussed the prudishness around that can be seen about men who have sex with men. Adjust the frame and you get a different picture. | |||
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"Women are more prude then men... It seems men are more sexually active/ willing to explore more than females. Debate..
I can see the grief youre getting in here OP, and it was inevitable. Having said that, discussion is always good once kept civil.
My thoughts; lets use fab as a borometer. Look at the imbalance in numbers on here between men and women.
Men, on average, are far far more interested in casual sex than women. I know thats not exactly the answer to the question, but its pretty close
What grief? The OP said 'debate'. As the whole debate is based on a poorly framed questment it is a mixture of experience and opinion. The OP also said that he's entitled to his opinion, so does that not hold true for others?
Yes, as i said discussion is good oncr civil.
And why is the question poorly framed? Its an honest question. If he framed it differently then it would be another question. And he didnt want to ask another question or presumably he would have done that
What question? "Ask the person above who first mentioned question, who i in turn replied to | |||
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"Women are more prude then men... It seems men are more sexually active/ willing to explore more than females. Debate..
I can see the grief youre getting in here OP, and it was inevitable. Having said that, discussion is always good once kept civil.
My thoughts; lets use fab as a borometer. Look at the imbalance in numbers on here between men and women.
Men, on average, are far far more interested in casual sex than women. I know thats not exactly the answer to the question, but its pretty close
What grief? The OP said 'debate'. As the whole debate is based on a poorly framed questment it is a mixture of experience and opinion. The OP also said that he's entitled to his opinion, so does that not hold true for others?
Yes, as i said discussion is good oncr civil.
And why is the question poorly framed? Its an honest question. If he framed it differently then it would be another question. And he didnt want to ask another question or presumably he would have done that
At the risk of being labelled a pedant - He never asked a question."I coined questment to get around having that debate.
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"Women are more prude then men... It seems men are more sexually active/ willing to explore more than females. Debate..
I can see the grief youre getting in here OP, and it was inevitable. Having said that, discussion is always good once kept civil.
My thoughts; lets use fab as a borometer. Look at the imbalance in numbers on here between men and women.
Men, on average, are far far more interested in casual sex than women. I know thats not exactly the answer to the question, but its pretty close
What grief? The OP said 'debate'. As the whole debate is based on a poorly framed questment it is a mixture of experience and opinion. The OP also said that he's entitled to his opinion, so does that not hold true for others?
Yes, as i said discussion is good oncr civil.
And why is the question poorly framed? Its an honest question. If he framed it differently then it would be another question. And he didnt want to ask another question or presumably he would have done that
At the risk of being labelled a pedant - He never asked a question.
Pedant "What can I say ........ Minor details matter in a debate as important as 'women are more prude' .... | |||
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" And why is the question poorly framed? Its an honest question. If he framed it differently then it would be another question. And he didnt want to ask another question or presumably he would have done that" It’s poorly framed as it intimates that it’s here for a debate, but strongly biased to getting the answer the OP really wants, which is agreement with his premise. An honest question doesn’t seek to direct the answer, or precede the question with loaded argument. Nothing wrong with asking “are men or women more likely to be prudish, where prudish means x and y”, it’s much better than “women are prudes, who’s with me! Debate…” | |||
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"Women are more prude then men... It seems men are more sexually active/ willing to explore more than females. Debate..
I can see the grief youre getting in here OP, and it was inevitable. Having said that, discussion is always good once kept civil.
My thoughts; lets use fab as a borometer. Look at the imbalance in numbers on here between men and women.
Men, on average, are far far more interested in casual sex than women. I know thats not exactly the answer to the question, but its pretty close
What grief? The OP said 'debate'. As the whole debate is based on a poorly framed questment it is a mixture of experience and opinion. The OP also said that he's entitled to his opinion, so does that not hold true for others?
Yes, as i said discussion is good oncr civil.
And why is the question poorly framed? Its an honest question. If he framed it differently then it would be another question. And he didnt want to ask another question or presumably he would have done that
At the risk of being labelled a pedant - He never asked a question.
I coined questment to get around having that debate.
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"Women are more prude then men... It seems men are more sexually active/ willing to explore more than females. Debate..
I can see the grief youre getting in here OP, and it was inevitable. Having said that, discussion is always good once kept civil.
My thoughts; lets use fab as a borometer. Look at the imbalance in numbers on here between men and women.
Men, on average, are far far more interested in casual sex than women. I know thats not exactly the answer to the question, but its pretty close
What grief? The OP said 'debate'. As the whole debate is based on a poorly framed questment it is a mixture of experience and opinion. The OP also said that he's entitled to his opinion, so does that not hold true for others?
Yes, as i said discussion is good oncr civil.
And why is the question poorly framed? Its an honest question. If he framed it differently then it would be another question. And he didnt want to ask another question or presumably he would have done that
The framing has generated the responses. It starts with the statement that women are more prudish than men. As a result we have not discussed the prudishness around that can be seen about men who have sex with men.
Adjust the frame and you get a different picture.
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" And why is the question poorly framed? Its an honest question. If he framed it differently then it would be another question. And he didnt want to ask another question or presumably he would have done that It’s poorly framed as it intimates that it’s here for a debate, but strongly biased to getting the answer the OP really wants, which is agreement with his premise. An honest question doesn’t seek to direct the answer, or precede the question with loaded argument. Nothing wrong with asking “are men or women more likely to be prudish, where prudish means x and y”, it’s much better than “women are prudes, who’s with me! Debate…”" Agree! | |||
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"Women are more prude then men... It seems men are more sexually active/ willing to explore more than females. Debate..
I can see the grief youre getting in here OP, and it was inevitable. Having said that, discussion is always good once kept civil.
My thoughts; lets use fab as a borometer. Look at the imbalance in numbers on here between men and women.
Men, on average, are far far more interested in casual sex than women. I know thats not exactly the answer to the question, but its pretty close
What grief? The OP said 'debate'. As the whole debate is based on a poorly framed questment it is a mixture of experience and opinion. The OP also said that he's entitled to his opinion, so does that not hold true for others?
Yes, as i said discussion is good oncr civil.
And why is the question poorly framed? Its an honest question. If he framed it differently then it would be another question. And he didnt want to ask another question or presumably he would have done that
What question?
Ask the person above who first mentioned question, who i in turn replied to"They didn't mention the word question actually that's why I was asking what question. All I can see is a statement and that is why the thread has gone the way it has. | |||
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" And why is the question poorly framed? Its an honest question. If he framed it differently then it would be another question. And he didnt want to ask another question or presumably he would have done that It’s poorly framed as it intimates that it’s here for a debate, but strongly biased to getting the answer the OP really wants, which is agreement with his premise. An honest question doesn’t seek to direct the answer, or precede the question with loaded argument. Nothing wrong with asking “are men or women more likely to be prudish, where prudish means x and y”, it’s much better than “women are prudes, who’s with me! Debate…” Agree! "However debate can clarify the issue, that should always be enlighteniand civil | |||
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" And why is the question poorly framed? Its an honest question. If he framed it differently then it would be another question. And he didnt want to ask another question or presumably he would have done that It’s poorly framed as it intimates that it’s here for a debate, but strongly biased to getting the answer the OP really wants, which is agreement with his premise. An honest question doesn’t seek to direct the answer, or precede the question with loaded argument. Nothing wrong with asking “are men or women more likely to be prudish, where prudish means x and y”, it’s much better than “women are prudes, who’s with me! Debate…” Agree!
However debate can clarify the issue, that should always be enlighteniand civil "Oops *enlightening and civil | |||
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"How funny!! Loving the controversy this has caused "I think people saw through the op and that's why you have had the responses you have had. The fact you love that it's caused controversy kinda shows people were right with their assumptions. | |||
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" And why is the question poorly framed? Its an honest question. If he framed it differently then it would be another question. And he didnt want to ask another question or presumably he would have done that It’s poorly framed as it intimates that it’s here for a debate, but strongly biased to getting the answer the OP really wants, which is agreement with his premise. An honest question doesn’t seek to direct the answer, or precede the question with loaded argument. Nothing wrong with asking “are men or women more likely to be prudish, where prudish means x and y”, it’s much better than “women are prudes, who’s with me! Debate…” Agree!
However debate can clarify the issue, that should always be enlighteniand civil "Agreed, far better to debate the replies to a good starting point, than to need to debate the question in order to get fair replies… | |||
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"Women are more prude then men... It seems men are more sexually active/ willing to explore more than females. Debate..
I can see the grief youre getting in here OP, and it was inevitable. Having said that, discussion is always good once kept civil.
My thoughts; lets use fab as a borometer. Look at the imbalance in numbers on here between men and women.
Men, on average, are far far more interested in casual sex than women. I know thats not exactly the answer to the question, but its pretty close
What grief? The OP said 'debate'. As the whole debate is based on a poorly framed questment it is a mixture of experience and opinion. The OP also said that he's entitled to his opinion, so does that not hold true for others?
Yes, as i said discussion is good oncr civil.
And why is the question poorly framed? Its an honest question. If he framed it differently then it would be another question. And he didnt want to ask another question or presumably he would have done that
What question?
Ask the person above who first mentioned question, who i in turn replied to
They didn't mention the word question actually that's why I was asking what question. All I can see is a statement and that is why the thread has gone the way it has. "The person said 'poorly framed questment' I took that to be a typo and that she meant question. I dont believe 'questment' is a word? | |||
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"Women are more prude then men... It seems men are more sexually active/ willing to explore more than females. Debate..
I can see the grief youre getting in here OP, and it was inevitable. Having said that, discussion is always good once kept civil.
My thoughts; lets use fab as a borometer. Look at the imbalance in numbers on here between men and women.
Men, on average, are far far more interested in casual sex than women. I know thats not exactly the answer to the question, but its pretty close
What grief? The OP said 'debate'. As the whole debate is based on a poorly framed questment it is a mixture of experience and opinion. The OP also said that he's entitled to his opinion, so does that not hold true for others?
Yes, as i said discussion is good oncr civil.
And why is the question poorly framed? Its an honest question. If he framed it differently then it would be another question. And he didnt want to ask another question or presumably he would have done that
What question?
Ask the person above who first mentioned question, who i in turn replied to
They didn't mention the word question actually that's why I was asking what question. All I can see is a statement and that is why the thread has gone the way it has.
The person said 'poorly framed questment'
I took that to be a typo and that she meant question. I dont believe 'questment' is a word? "It's in the Urban Dictionary. It'll break lickety's heart but it's in there | |||
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" And why is the question poorly framed? Its an honest question. If he framed it differently then it would be another question. And he didnt want to ask another question or presumably he would have done that It’s poorly framed as it intimates that it’s here for a debate, but strongly biased to getting the answer the OP really wants, which is agreement with his premise. An honest question doesn’t seek to direct the answer, or precede the question with loaded argument. Nothing wrong with asking “are men or women more likely to be prudish, where prudish means x and y”, it’s much better than “women are prudes, who’s with me! Debate…” Agree!
However debate can clarify the issue, that should always be enlighteniand civil
Oops *enlightening and civil "He posed an opinion. He requested it be debated. By definition a debate calls for you to question the opposing views validity over yours for example... Hard not to bring question into it. You are by default in your response questioning his, or the statements position surely. | |||
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" And why is the question poorly framed? Its an honest question. If he framed it differently then it would be another question. And he didnt want to ask another question or presumably he would have done that It’s poorly framed as it intimates that it’s here for a debate, but strongly biased to getting the answer the OP really wants, which is agreement with his premise. An honest question doesn’t seek to direct the answer, or precede the question with loaded argument. Nothing wrong with asking “are men or women more likely to be prudish, where prudish means x and y”, it’s much better than “women are prudes, who’s with me! Debate…” Agree!
However debate can clarify the issue, that should always be enlighteniand civil
Agreed, far better to debate the replies to a good starting point, than to need to debate the question in order to get fair replies…"Yes, exactly. Clarifying the issue as the debate goes on should enlighten. For example the meaning of the word prude. It’s interesting that it leads to much bigger social attitudes. | |||
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"Women are more prude then men... It seems men are more sexually active/ willing to explore more than females. Debate..
I can see the grief youre getting in here OP, and it was inevitable. Having said that, discussion is always good once kept civil.
My thoughts; lets use fab as a borometer. Look at the imbalance in numbers on here between men and women.
Men, on average, are far far more interested in casual sex than women. I know thats not exactly the answer to the question, but its pretty close
What grief? The OP said 'debate'. As the whole debate is based on a poorly framed questment it is a mixture of experience and opinion. The OP also said that he's entitled to his opinion, so does that not hold true for others?
Yes, as i said discussion is good oncr civil.
And why is the question poorly framed? Its an honest question. If he framed it differently then it would be another question. And he didnt want to ask another question or presumably he would have done that
What question?
Ask the person above who first mentioned question, who i in turn replied to
They didn't mention the word question actually that's why I was asking what question. All I can see is a statement and that is why the thread has gone the way it has.
The person said 'poorly framed questment'
I took that to be a typo and that she meant question. I dont believe 'questment' is a word? "It's a portmanteau of question and statement, coined in the moment. I used it to get around the issue that some are arguing we should debate the question (there wasn't one) and others questioning the statement. Also, I generally apologise and correct if I make a typo and spot it. | |||
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"Women are more prude then men... It seems men are more sexually active/ willing to explore more than females. Debate..
I can see the grief youre getting in here OP, and it was inevitable. Having said that, discussion is always good once kept civil.
My thoughts; lets use fab as a borometer. Look at the imbalance in numbers on here between men and women.
Men, on average, are far far more interested in casual sex than women. I know thats not exactly the answer to the question, but its pretty close
What grief? The OP said 'debate'. As the whole debate is based on a poorly framed questment it is a mixture of experience and opinion. The OP also said that he's entitled to his opinion, so does that not hold true for others?
Yes, as i said discussion is good oncr civil.
And why is the question poorly framed? Its an honest question. If he framed it differently then it would be another question. And he didnt want to ask another question or presumably he would have done that
What question?
Ask the person above who first mentioned question, who i in turn replied to
They didn't mention the word question actually that's why I was asking what question. All I can see is a statement and that is why the thread has gone the way it has.
The person said 'poorly framed questment'
I took that to be a typo and that she meant question. I dont believe 'questment' is a word?
It's in the Urban Dictionary.
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"I raised a viewpoint. You can debate is. I didn't know we all had to have Phd in English language and linguistics to debate a topic ." Also a good point though. Some things can be said in innocence yet taken offensively by others. Certainly don’t think your post was in any way offensive but the origin of the word (used to describe females mostly) opens up discussion on how society views men and women sexually. Well that’s just for one thing… | |||
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"Women are more prude then men... It seems men are more sexually active/ willing to explore more than females. Debate..
I can see the grief youre getting in here OP, and it was inevitable. Having said that, discussion is always good once kept civil.
My thoughts; lets use fab as a borometer. Look at the imbalance in numbers on here between men and women.
Men, on average, are far far more interested in casual sex than women. I know thats not exactly the answer to the question, but its pretty close
What grief? The OP said 'debate'. As the whole debate is based on a poorly framed questment it is a mixture of experience and opinion. The OP also said that he's entitled to his opinion, so does that not hold true for others?
Yes, as i said discussion is good oncr civil.
And why is the question poorly framed? Its an honest question. If he framed it differently then it would be another question. And he didnt want to ask another question or presumably he would have done that
What question?
Ask the person above who first mentioned question, who i in turn replied to
They didn't mention the word question actually that's why I was asking what question. All I can see is a statement and that is why the thread has gone the way it has.
The person said 'poorly framed questment'
I took that to be a typo and that she meant question. I dont believe 'questment' is a word?
It's a portmanteau of question and statement, coined in the moment. I used it to get around the issue that some are arguing we should debate the question (there wasn't one) and others questioning the statement.
Also, I generally apologise and correct if I make a typo and spot it.
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"Women are more prude then men... It seems men are more sexually active/ willing to explore more than females. Debate..
I can see the grief youre getting in here OP, and it was inevitable. Having said that, discussion is always good once kept civil.
My thoughts; lets use fab as a borometer. Look at the imbalance in numbers on here between men and women.
Men, on average, are far far more interested in casual sex than women. I know thats not exactly the answer to the question, but its pretty close
What grief? The OP said 'debate'. As the whole debate is based on a poorly framed questment it is a mixture of experience and opinion. The OP also said that he's entitled to his opinion, so does that not hold true for others?
Yes, as i said discussion is good oncr civil.
And why is the question poorly framed? Its an honest question. If he framed it differently then it would be another question. And he didnt want to ask another question or presumably he would have done that
What question?
Ask the person above who first mentioned question, who i in turn replied to
They didn't mention the word question actually that's why I was asking what question. All I can see is a statement and that is why the thread has gone the way it has.
The person said 'poorly framed questment'
I took that to be a typo and that she meant question. I dont believe 'questment' is a word?
It's a portmanteau of question and statement, coined in the moment. I used it to get around the issue that some are arguing we should debate the question (there wasn't one) and others questioning the statement.
Also, I generally apologise and correct if I make a typo and spot it.
So its a made up word then?
Fair enough, ill play along"It not a made up word and a quick Google shows me it is in plenty of dictionaries. | |||
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Is it to describe people with no qualifications? "Not necessarily... I felt it needed to describe people with lenses and agendas and inability to see past their low resolution view of the world and exhibit obtuse behaviour. I'll trademark it so hands off!  | |||
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Is it to describe people with no qualifications?
Not necessarily... I felt it needed to describe people with lenses and agendas and inability to see past their low resolution view of the world and exhibit obtuse behaviour.
I'll trademark it so hands off! "Fabademics ® | |||
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"Disagree completely, Women are no less/more prudes than men. However in my experience, they feel less need to willy wave and shout it from the rooftops like a rite of honour and achievements. But prudes... nah, not in the slightest. They definitely have a little more decorum that gents though. (All on average rather than individuals and just my experiences of) E x" But do you not think the sheer difference in numbers on a site like this means that they are, on average, more prudish? I still find it hard to see past that in any discussion around this. Surely if they were no more prudish than men, then the number of women in here would be similar? | |||
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"Disagree completely, Women are no less/more prudes than men. However in my experience, they feel less need to willy wave and shout it from the rooftops like a rite of honour and achievements. But prudes... nah, not in the slightest. They definitely have a little more decorum that gents though. (All on average rather than individuals and just my experiences of) E x But do you not think the sheer difference in numbers on a site like this means that they are, on average, more prudish? I still find it hard to see past that in any discussion around this. Surely if they were no more prudish than men, then the number of women in here would be similar? " Purely biologically men are more prone to (at a subconscious level at least) to want to sew their seed wide and far. As much as the different sexes do strive to not be controlled by this the laws of biology still dictate trends and generalities. Not sure that not being promiscuous/on fab defines someone as being a prude though? | |||
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"Disagree completely, Women are no less/more prudes than men. However in my experience, they feel less need to willy wave and shout it from the rooftops like a rite of honour and achievements. But prudes... nah, not in the slightest. They definitely have a little more decorum that gents though. (All on average rather than individuals and just my experiences of) E x But do you not think the sheer difference in numbers on a site like this means that they are, on average, more prudish? I still find it hard to see past that in any discussion around this. Surely if they were no more prudish than men, then the number of women in here would be similar? Purely biologically men are more prone to (at a subconscious level at least) to want to sew their seed wide and far. As much as the different sexes do strive to not be controlled by this the laws of biology still dictate trends and generalities. Not sure that not being promiscuous/on fab defines someone as being a prude though?" Not technically to a tee, granted. But i still see a close connection between 'prudishness' and the predilection to casual sex. Then again, giving it further thought, they probably arent entirely mutually exclusive. Im conflicted | |||
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"Disagree completely, Women are no less/more prudes than men. However in my experience, they feel less need to willy wave and shout it from the rooftops like a rite of honour and achievements. But prudes... nah, not in the slightest. They definitely have a little more decorum that gents though. (All on average rather than individuals and just my experiences of) E x But do you not think the sheer difference in numbers on a site like this means that they are, on average, more prudish? I still find it hard to see past that in any discussion around this. Surely if they were no more prudish than men, then the number of women in here would be similar? " My experience of the numbers is that a lot of men join for the visuals, some for a place to chat, and quite a few for the fantasy of 'winning' a woman they have no intention of meeting. The fantasists are legion. On that basis, it may well be that the women here are proportionally less prudish than the men. | |||
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"Disagree completely, Women are no less/more prudes than men. However in my experience, they feel less need to willy wave and shout it from the rooftops like a rite of honour and achievements. But prudes... nah, not in the slightest. They definitely have a little more decorum that gents though. (All on average rather than individuals and just my experiences of) E x But do you not think the sheer difference in numbers on a site like this means that they are, on average, more prudish? I still find it hard to see past that in any discussion around this. Surely if they were no more prudish than men, then the number of women in here would be similar? My experience of the numbers is that a lot of men join for the visuals, some for a place to chat, and quite a few for the fantasy of 'winning' a woman they have no intention of meeting. The fantasists are legion. On that basis, it may well be that the women here are proportionally less prudish than the men." By that rational you must account for a percentage of women that join 'for the visuals, some for a place to chat, and quite a few for the fantasy of 'ego boosting' with men that they have no intention of meeting? Unless... I dont know false equivalency and anecdote? | |||
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"Women are more prude then men... It seems men are more sexually active/ willing to explore more than females. Debate.. "Men dont bear the full sexual consequences being the biggest fuck a chic get her pregnant disappear repeat and continue that 30 times that night.. See what would be the story if 30 women turned up pregnant in a town and didn't know how to trace the guy... He'd be in the crowd calling them the slut when he had 30 and they had 1 guy. | |||
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"Women are more prude then men... It seems men are more sexually active/ willing to explore more than females. Debate.. "Society makes it seem that way, but nothing could be farther from the truth | |||
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"Disagree completely, Women are no less/more prudes than men. However in my experience, they feel less need to willy wave and shout it from the rooftops like a rite of honour and achievements. But prudes... nah, not in the slightest. They definitely have a little more decorum that gents though. (All on average rather than individuals and just my experiences of) E x But do you not think the sheer difference in numbers on a site like this means that they are, on average, more prudish? I still find it hard to see past that in any discussion around this. Surely if they were no more prudish than men, then the number of women in here would be similar? My experience of the numbers is that a lot of men join for the visuals, some for a place to chat, and quite a few for the fantasy of 'winning' a woman they have no intention of meeting. The fantasists are legion. On that basis, it may well be that the women here are proportionally less prudish than the men." | |||
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"Women are more prude then men... It seems men are more sexually active/ willing to explore more than females. Debate.. "I’d say biologically that’s the case. That’s how men are wired. Women are different | |||
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We are as bad as each other…so I don’t think women or men are more sexually active. I guess that shows we are sexually compatible though and maybe that’s where problems occur in some relationships when one side feels the other is prudish…
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A"Nobody ever said it was compulsory or expected. However, it is biological, and biology doesn't care that its 2022. I know its in vogue these days to deem everything a 'social construct', but the reality it, biology trumps all of that. Ive already acknowledged that there are exceptions so there was no need for you to highlight those. | |||
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"Woman won't fuck me - prude Woman won't fuck me but will fuck him - slut. OP read some veris they aren't all man on man. It's almost like people's characteristics aren't defined by their gender Well i think some characteristics are defined by gender. Theres no getting away from that. There are of course exceptions, but gender plays a massive role in characteristics Gender of course influences people's characteristics be that genetically or socially. But it certainly doesn't define them. Yep. And the extent that it exerts any influence is entirely down to the individual. Hence you can have extremely masculine female bodybuilders and equally extremely feminine male models. Just two examples of course, but you know.....free will and all that. Just because you are a certain gender doesn't mean you're obliged to assume specific characteristics. Unless you're deliberately intent on living life as a stereotype and fitting into someone else's pre-concieved notions. A 'massive' influence? Not any more. It's 2022 of course and that's not been compulsory or expected for decades.......
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Nobody ever said it was compulsory or expected.
However, it is biological, and biology doesn't care that its 2022. I know its in vogue these days to deem everything a 'social construct', but the reality it, biology trumps all of that.
Ive already acknowledged that there are exceptions so there was no need for you to highlight those. "OK. Explain why you think it is a 'massive influence' on characteristics with examples then. I assume you have some given how strongly you seem to feel? A | |||
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Nobody ever said it was compulsory or expected.
However, it is biological, and biology doesn't care that its 2022. I know its in vogue these days to deem everything a 'social construct', but the reality it, biology trumps all of that.
Ive already acknowledged that there are exceptions so there was no need for you to highlight those.
OK.
Explain why you think it is a 'massive influence' on characteristics with examples then.
I assume you have some given how strongly you seem to feel?
A"There are numerous works of research done over decades which have undoubtedly established differences between the genders, whilst also accounting for nurture/cultural background. If not going to reference any for you as a simple Google search will do that. Do you honestly think men and women share the exact same characterictics with no gentic or biological differences? | |||
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Nobody ever said it was compulsory or expected.
However, it is biological, and biology doesn't care that its 2022. I know its in vogue these days to deem everything a 'social construct', but the reality it, biology trumps all of that.
Ive already acknowledged that there are exceptions so there was no need for you to highlight those.
OK.
Explain why you think it is a 'massive influence' on characteristics with examples then.
I assume you have some given how strongly you seem to feel?
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There are numerous works of research done over decades which have undoubtedly established differences between the genders, whilst also accounting for nurture/cultural background. If not going to reference any for you as a simple Google search will do that.
Do you honestly think men and women share the exact same characterictics with no gentic or biological differences? "Would you care to suggest where we might read such conclusive research? Many thanks. | |||
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Nobody ever said it was compulsory or expected.
However, it is biological, and biology doesn't care that its 2022. I know its in vogue these days to deem everything a 'social construct', but the reality it, biology trumps all of that.
Ive already acknowledged that there are exceptions so there was no need for you to highlight those.
OK.
Explain why you think it is a 'massive influence' on characteristics with examples then.
I assume you have some given how strongly you seem to feel?
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There are numerous works of research done over decades which have undoubtedly established differences between the genders, whilst also accounting for nurture/cultural background. If not going to reference any for you as a simple Google search will do that.
Do you honestly think men and women share the exact same characterictics with no gentic or biological differences?
Would you care to suggest where we might read such conclusive research? Many thanks. "https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20161011-do-men-and-women-really-have-different-personalities Here. Theres loads referenced in this | |||
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Nobody ever said it was compulsory or expected.
However, it is biological, and biology doesn't care that its 2022. I know its in vogue these days to deem everything a 'social construct', but the reality it, biology trumps all of that.
Ive already acknowledged that there are exceptions so there was no need for you to highlight those.
OK.
Explain why you think it is a 'massive influence' on characteristics with examples then.
I assume you have some given how strongly you seem to feel?
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There are numerous works of research done over decades which have undoubtedly established differences between the genders, whilst also accounting for nurture/cultural background. If not going to reference any for you as a simple Google search will do that.
Do you honestly think men and women share the exact same characterictics with no gentic or biological differences? "Nope. I don't think that nor did I ever say that. But I also didn't claim that 'gender plays a massive role in characteristics'. It plays a role, yes. But I'm still waiting for you to give an example of one of those characteristics. Just one will do. Because you seem to throw out these claims quite frequently without actual empirical evidence to back them up. Which makes them nothing more than an opinion, rather than a fact. Much like your assertion that "do you not think the sheer difference in numbers on a site like this means that they are, on average, more prudish?" rationalises the notion that women are more prudish than men. Which is most definitely complete bollocks. Just because women are here in lesser numbers bears zero correlation. I'm pretty sure most women don't need a swingers site to get laid and can quite easily find a willing partner far more easily than any man in a variety of situations from pubs and clubs to workplaces and out shopping at Tescos. The fact they don't choose to join a sex site to attempt to find a partner doesn't signify prudish behaviour. It does indicate a serious case of last resort desperation and expectancy in many men though. A | |||
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Nobody ever said it was compulsory or expected.
However, it is biological, and biology doesn't care that its 2022. I know its in vogue these days to deem everything a 'social construct', but the reality it, biology trumps all of that.
Ive already acknowledged that there are exceptions so there was no need for you to highlight those.
OK.
Explain why you think it is a 'massive influence' on characteristics with examples then.
I assume you have some given how strongly you seem to feel?
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There are numerous works of research done over decades which have undoubtedly established differences between the genders, whilst also accounting for nurture/cultural background. If not going to reference any for you as a simple Google search will do that.
Do you honestly think men and women share the exact same characterictics with no gentic or biological differences?
Nope.
I don't think that nor did I ever say that.
But I also didn't claim that 'gender plays a massive role in characteristics'.
It plays a role, yes. But I'm still waiting for you to give an example of one of those characteristics. Just one will do.
Because you seem to throw out these claims quite frequently without actual empirical evidence to back them up. Which makes them nothing more than an opinion, rather than a fact.
Much like your assertion that "do you not think the sheer difference in numbers on a site like this means that they are, on average, more prudish?" rationalises the notion that women are more prudish than men. Which is most definitely complete bollocks. Just because women are here in lesser numbers bears zero correlation.
I'm pretty sure most women don't need a swingers site to get laid and can quite easily find a willing partner far more easily than any man in a variety of situations from pubs and clubs to workplaces and out shopping at Tescos.
The fact they don't choose to join a sex site to attempt to find a partner doesn't signify prudish behaviour. It does indicate a serious case of last resort desperation and expectancy in many men though.
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Nobody ever said it was compulsory or expected.
However, it is biological, and biology doesn't care that its 2022. I know its in vogue these days to deem everything a 'social construct', but the reality it, biology trumps all of that.
Ive already acknowledged that there are exceptions so there was no need for you to highlight those.
OK.
Explain why you think it is a 'massive influence' on characteristics with examples then.
I assume you have some given how strongly you seem to feel?
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There are numerous works of research done over decades which have undoubtedly established differences between the genders, whilst also accounting for nurture/cultural background. If not going to reference any for you as a simple Google search will do that.
Do you honestly think men and women share the exact same characterictics with no gentic or biological differences?
Would you care to suggest where we might read such conclusive research? Many thanks.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20161011-do-men-and-women-really-have-different-personalities
Here. Theres loads referenced in this"Not sure you picked the best example there......
"While the debates about the size and causes of gender differences in personality are likely to rumble on for many more years, it seems reasonable to conclude that for whatever reason, there are at least some differences, however large or modest, in the personality of the average man and woman. But that word “average” is important – whichever study we choose to trust, there is plenty of overlap in personality between the genders. And remember that this is about personality, not all aspects of cognition and behaviour. Indeed, based on her review of gender differences across “across multiple psychological domains” Hyde has argued “that men and women are more similar than different; the distance between them is more like the distance between North Dakota and South Dakota [than the distance between planets]”
I didn't see the word 'massive' used anywhere in that link.
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Nobody ever said it was compulsory or expected.
However, it is biological, and biology doesn't care that its 2022. I know its in vogue these days to deem everything a 'social construct', but the reality it, biology trumps all of that.
Ive already acknowledged that there are exceptions so there was no need for you to highlight those.
OK.
Explain why you think it is a 'massive influence' on characteristics with examples then.
I assume you have some given how strongly you seem to feel?
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There are numerous works of research done over decades which have undoubtedly established differences between the genders, whilst also accounting for nurture/cultural background. If not going to reference any for you as a simple Google search will do that.
Do you honestly think men and women share the exact same characterictics with no gentic or biological differences?
Would you care to suggest where we might read such conclusive research? Many thanks.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20161011-do-men-and-women-really-have-different-personalities
Here. Theres loads referenced in this
Not sure you picked the best example there......
"While the debates about the size and causes of gender differences in personality are likely to rumble on for many more years, it seems reasonable to conclude that for whatever reason, there are at least some differences, however large or modest, in the personality of the average man and woman. But that word “average” is important – whichever study we choose to trust, there is plenty of overlap in personality between the genders. And remember that this is about personality, not all aspects of cognition and behaviour. Indeed, based on her review of gender differences across “across multiple psychological domains” Hyde has argued “that men and women are more similar than different; the distance between them is more like the distance between North Dakota and South Dakota [than the distance between planets]”
I didn't see the word 'massive' used anywhere in that link.
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