FabSwingers.com forum: Language use

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Language is a powerful medium of representation; it gives individuals the

means to convey ideas (amongst other things) from one person to

another. Viewed in this way, language

does not happen in a vacuum; it is part of a social learning process acquired within a

community. Infants learn it from their caregivers, who in turn learned it from theirs

and so on. Thus, as a society we create mental representations through language.

Do you believe that the adverb WELL in the following acronyms WE and VWE implies that men who do not fall into that category (socially constructed or not) are inadequately endowed somehow ?

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By *eroLondonMan
over a year ago

Mayfair

No. Not at all. I fall into the average. Gin?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's certainly not my way of thinking.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"No. Not at all. I fall into the average. Gin?"

So do we use AE?

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By *xploring_FunWoman
over a year ago

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No I don’t.

The fact that some people are “very well off” doesn’t mean everyone else has inadequate finances. Just less than them.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"No I don’t.

The fact that some people are “very well off” doesn’t mean everyone else has inadequate finances. Just less than them.

Fair point, but the adverb does have positive connotations though ? Like in that sentence : I am very well thank you.

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By *eroLondonMan
over a year ago

Mayfair

"No. Not at all. I fall into the average. Gin?

So do we use AE?"

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We could do. We can create our own geographical collective: UAE.

United Average Emirates.

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By *lym4realCouple
over a year ago

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Most messages we get you need google translate ?? so language is pretty much useless on here as in...Anyone fancy a social..cue everyone running to the hills ?? as social carries the implication that conversation might be ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No I would say it’s the WELL that makes these people exceptional.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"No. Not at all. I fall into the average. Gin?

So do we use AE?

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We could do. We can create our own geographical collective: UAE.

United Average Emirates."

but you do get what I mean though ?

Well as a positive connotation attached to it, I guess that’s why men used the acronyms WE and VWE. I haven’t seen a profile saying less WE yet

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"No I would say it’s the WELL that makes these people exceptional. "

was expecting one like that when I started the thread

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it’s just a way of saying it’s more than average.

Well off - more money than average

Well fucked - a lot more fucked than just fucked.

Depending on the context that last one isn’t always positive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well off, not well off.

Well endowed, not well endowed.

I get you, OP, there is an implied 'lack' of something.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No I would say it’s the WELL that makes these people exceptional.

was expecting one like that when I started the thread "

Sicker than your average- Biggie Smalls, Well endowed man.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think it’s just a way of saying it’s more than average.

Well off - more money than average

Well fucked - a lot more fucked than just fucked.

Depending on the context that last one isn’t always positive."

yes context is the key and your mindset about the interpretation of those words will certainly impact the way you see and understand them.

But most of the examples you cited, I can’t help to think that if as a society we decided to use this adverb to elevate the following word.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"Language is a powerful medium of representation; it gives individuals the

means to convey ideas (amongst other things) from one person to

another. Viewed in this way, language

does not happen in a vacuum; it is part of a social learning process acquired within a

community. Infants learn it from their caregivers, who in turn learned it from theirs

and so on. Thus, as a society we create mental representations through language.

Do you believe that the adverb WELL in the following acronyms WE and VWE implies that men who do not fall into that category (socially constructed or not) are inadequately endowed somehow ?

No. They would be endowed.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Well off, not well off.

Well endowed, not well endowed.

I get you, OP, there is an implied 'lack' of something."

Exactly as if it was a disability somehow.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"No. Not at all. I fall into the average. Gin?

So do we use AE?

VAE

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By *eroLondonMan
over a year ago

Mayfair

"No. Not at all. I fall into the average. Gin?

So do we use AE?

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We could do. We can create our own geographical collective: UAE.

United Average Emirates.

but you do get what I mean though ?

Well as a positive connotation attached to it, I guess that’s why men used the acronyms WE and VWE. I haven’t seen a profile saying less WE yet "

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I totally understand what you mean. It's a superfluous hyperbole for a term that doesn't need further exaggeration.

If you're hung, you're hung.

If you're happy you don't need to state that you're "well happy", unless it's a comparative, which would necessitate the word "happier" (or "more happy").

Clear as mud.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think it’s just a way of saying it’s more than average.

Well off - more money than average

Well fucked - a lot more fucked than just fucked.

Depending on the context that last one isn’t always positive.

yes context is the key and your mindset about the interpretation of those words will certainly impact the way you see and understand them.

But most of the examples you cited, I can’t help to think that if as a society we decided to use this adverb to elevate the following word. "

Possibly but I would never use well fucked in a positive way. It would be when I’m either really d*unk or in a lot of trouble.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"Well off, not well off.

Well endowed, not well endowed.

I get you, OP, there is an implied 'lack' of something.

Exactly as if it was a disability somehow. "

I don't read that implication at all. But I'm very left brained and try very hard not to assume things not written.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"No. Not at all. I fall into the average. Gin?

So do we use AE?

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We could do. We can create our own geographical collective: UAE.

United Average Emirates.

but you do get what I mean though ?

Well as a positive connotation attached to it, I guess that’s why men used the acronyms WE and VWE. I haven’t seen a profile saying less WE yet

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I totally understand what you mean. It's a superfluous hyperbole for a term that doesn't need further exaggeration.

If you're hung, you're hung.

If you're happy you don't need to state that you're "well happy", unless it's a comparative, which would necessitate the word "happier" (or "more happy").

Clear as mud."

Exactly!

Even happy does implies it’s opposite

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By *eroLondonMan
over a year ago

Mayfair

"I think it’s just a way of saying it’s more than average.

Well off - more money than average

Well fucked - a lot more fucked than just fucked.

Depending on the context that last one isn’t always positive.

yes context is the key and your mindset about the interpretation of those words will certainly impact the way you see and understand them.

But most of the examples you cited, I can’t help to think that if as a society we decided to use this adverb to elevate the following word.

Possibly but I would never use well fucked in a positive way. It would be when I’m either really d*unk or in a lot of trouble."

I think you're well fit.

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By *xploring_FunWoman
over a year ago

Coventry

Fair point, but the adverb does have positive connotations though ? Like in that sentence : I am very well thank you. "

Saying “very well” to me would say they are more well than usual/average.

Very well - more well than average.

Very well off - more money than average.

Very well endowed - more endowed than average.

Not every positive is a negative to the opposite. That one is just a description imo.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think it’s just a way of saying it’s more than average.

Well off - more money than average

Well fucked - a lot more fucked than just fucked.

Depending on the context that last one isn’t always positive.

yes context is the key and your mindset about the interpretation of those words will certainly impact the way you see and understand them.

But most of the examples you cited, I can’t help to think that if as a society we decided to use this adverb to elevate the following word.

Possibly but I would never use well fucked in a positive way. It would be when I’m either really d*unk or in a lot of trouble.

I think you're well fit."

Nero this is a thread about language. You should be thriving in this environment. You’re better than “well fit”.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Fair point, but the adverb does have positive connotations though ? Like in that sentence : I am very well thank you.

Saying “very well” to me would say they are more well than usual/average.

Very well - more well than average.

Very well off - more money than average.

Very well endowed - more endowed than average.

Not every positive is a negative to the opposite. That one is just a description imo."

And if we drop the very before ?

I am well, would it not imply that the opposite is not well ?

And yes of course WE and VWE means more endowed than average. I am more interested about the general connotation behind those acronyms.

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By *eroLondonMan
over a year ago

Mayfair

Fair point, but the adverb does have positive connotations though ? Like in that sentence : I am very well thank you.

Saying “very well” to me would say they are more well than usual/average.

Very well - more well than average.

Very well off - more money than average.

Very well endowed - more endowed than average.

Not every positive is a negative to the opposite. That one is just a description imo.

And if we drop the very before ?

I am well, would it not imply that the opposite is not well ?

And yes of course WE and VWE means more endowed than average. I am more interested about the general connotation behind those acronyms. "

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Not necessarily. If someone asks me if I'm well or "how are you?" then I will often answer "I am well, thank you". But, clearly people (including myself) will default to "I'm very well".

A silly example (apologies) is if you're "alive". It's an absolute. You couldn't say "I'm well alive". You can't be any more alive than you already are.

[unless you're half dead

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By *eroLondonMan
over a year ago

Mayfair

"I think it’s just a way of saying it’s more than average.

Well off - more money than average

Well fucked - a lot more fucked than just fucked.

Depending on the context that last one isn’t always positive.

yes context is the key and your mindset about the interpretation of those words will certainly impact the way you see and understand them.

But most of the examples you cited, I can’t help to think that if as a society we decided to use this adverb to elevate the following word.

Possibly but I would never use well fucked in a positive way. It would be when I’m either really d*unk or in a lot of trouble.

I think you're well fit.

Nero this is a thread about language. You should be thriving in this environment. You’re better than “well fit”.

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I agree: I'm fitter than a Kwik-Fit Fitter. Innit?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Fair point, but the adverb does have positive connotations though ? Like in that sentence : I am very well thank you.

Saying “very well” to me would say they are more well than usual/average.

Very well - more well than average.

Very well off - more money than average.

Very well endowed - more endowed than average.

Not every positive is a negative to the opposite. That one is just a description imo.

And if we drop the very before ?

I am well, would it not imply that the opposite is not well ?

And yes of course WE and VWE means more endowed than average. I am more interested about the general connotation behind those acronyms.

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Not necessarily. If someone asks me if I'm well or "how are you?" then I will often answer "I am well, thank you". But, clearly people (including myself) will default to "I'm very well".

A silly example (apologies) is if you're "alive". It's an absolute. You couldn't say "I'm well alive". You can't be any more alive than you already are.

[unless you're half dead

yes you have a very fait point there.

But in the case you aren’t well ? Would use its antonym?

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

I suspect that the person using VWE and WE are trying to make the point that they have extra above other people but I’m not so sure that people reading these things would perceive it that way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think it’s just a way of saying it’s more than average.

Well off - more money than average

Well fucked - a lot more fucked than just fucked.

Depending on the context that last one isn’t always positive.

yes context is the key and your mindset about the interpretation of those words will certainly impact the way you see and understand them.

But most of the examples you cited, I can’t help to think that if as a society we decided to use this adverb to elevate the following word.

Possibly but I would never use well fucked in a positive way. It would be when I’m either really d*unk or in a lot of trouble.

I think you're well fit.

Nero this is a thread about language. You should be thriving in this environment. You’re better than “well fit”.

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I agree: I'm fitter than a Kwik-Fit Fitter. Innit?"

They are quite fit but I’ll agree

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By *eroLondonMan
over a year ago

Mayfair

Fair point, but the adverb does have positive connotations though ? Like in that sentence : I am very well thank you.

Saying “very well” to me would say they are more well than usual/average.

Very well - more well than average.

Very well off - more money than average.

Very well endowed - more endowed than average.

Not every positive is a negative to the opposite. That one is just a description imo.

And if we drop the very before ?

I am well, would it not imply that the opposite is not well ?

And yes of course WE and VWE means more endowed than average. I am more interested about the general connotation behind those acronyms.

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Not necessarily. If someone asks me if I'm well or "how are you?" then I will often answer "I am well, thank you". But, clearly people (including myself) will default to "I'm very well".

A silly example (apologies) is if you're "alive". It's an absolute. You couldn't say "I'm well alive". You can't be any more alive than you already are.

[unless you're half dead

]

yes you have a very fair point there.

But in the case you aren’t well ? Would use its antonym?"

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Yes, if I am ill/sick then I would say "unwell", otherwise just "ok" or something equally innocuous.

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