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"I just read this. I think it's very sad. If the guy was the best candidate, I really don't think the gender of the person matters. The fact this decision is due to hounding and abuse is very, very unpleasant. " Agree | |||
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"I just read this. I think it's very sad. If the guy was the best candidate, I really don't think the gender of the person matters. The fact this decision is due to hounding and abuse is very, very unpleasant. " 
From what I could tell it was more a business/marketing role so gender was unimportant! | |||
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"What did the role involve?" Quote: Will lead a regional campaign across schools, colleges and wider communities, raising awareness and understanding of the new Act and ensuring that the Scottish Government funding is allocated appropriately. | |||
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"What did the role involve?" To quote the article "Mr Grant had been expected to lead a regional campaign across schools, colleges and wider communities to raise awareness of the new law and ensure that Scottish government funding is allocated appropriately. His duties would also have included discussing issues around menopause." | |||
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"What did the role involve? Quote: Will lead a regional campaign across schools, colleges and wider communities, raising awareness and understanding of the new Act and ensuring that the Scottish Government funding is allocated appropriately." Thank you | |||
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"What did the role involve? To quote the article "Mr Grant had been expected to lead a regional campaign across schools, colleges and wider communities to raise awareness of the new law and ensure that Scottish government funding is allocated appropriately. His duties would also have included discussing issues around menopause."" Thanks | |||
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"What did the role involve? To quote the article "Mr Grant had been expected to lead a regional campaign across schools, colleges and wider communities to raise awareness of the new law and ensure that Scottish government funding is allocated appropriately. His duties would also have included discussing issues around menopause." Thanks "You're welcome  | |||
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"From the little I've just read I think there are far greater issues at work here than a man being appointed. I suspect the huge taboo that still surrounds periods has a lot to do with it. I like the recent Always advert but I bet a few 'disgusted of Tunbridge Wells ' type complaints will have been received. " I just wish Always would stop putting weird scented crap in their pads!! I'm now on unbleached cotton ones (fecking expensive  ) | |||
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"News just in. The role of Period Dignity Officer has been scrapped following a backlash because the job went to a man. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-62807683" It wouldn't bother me now but when I was a child I would have been mortified if I had to disgust period issues with a male member of staff. It's not about being PC but you also have to factor in peoples comfort into the situation as well But not sure why him or the organisation would of recieved threats or abuse over it??? | |||
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"Why would a man even want to do that role anyway" Why would a man be a midwife? Or gynaecologist? Or a breast screener? Does it matter what the gender is? Through the health and social care sectors, women deal with men's healthcare and personal care issues, as men deal with women's. | |||
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"Why would a man even want to do that role anyway Why would a man be a midwife? Or gynaecologist? Or a breast screener? Does it matter what the gender is? Through the health and social care sectors, women deal with men's healthcare and personal care issues, as men deal with women's. " I just struggle to see a fella scrolling through the job adverts and seeing 'period dignity officer' and thinking yep that's for me! | |||
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"Why would a man even want to do that role anyway Why would a man be a midwife? Or gynaecologist? Or a breast screener? Does it matter what the gender is? Through the health and social care sectors, women deal with men's healthcare and personal care issues, as men deal with women's. " I'll hold my hands up and say I'm waaay more comfortable with a woman in all those situations most especially breast screening which involves quite a lot of physical contact. | |||
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"Why would a man even want to do that role anyway Why would a man be a midwife? Or gynaecologist? Or a breast screener? Does it matter what the gender is? Through the health and social care sectors, women deal with men's healthcare and personal care issues, as men deal with women's. I'll hold my hands up and say I'm waaay more comfortable with a woman in all those situations most especially breast screening which involves quite a lot of physical contact." I'm beyond caring. I've had urogynaecologists elbow deep and all sorts. So long as they can help me and aren't going to harm me, I'm easy
I can understand your feelings though. The job under discussion didn't involve physical contact though, it sounded more strategic, planning and coordinating? | |||
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"News just in. The role of Period Dignity Officer has been scrapped following a backlash because the job went to a man. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-62807683" Power to the social media brothers... And sisters. He / she who shouts loudest. | |||
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"Why would a man even want to do that role anyway Why would a man be a midwife? Or gynaecologist? Or a breast screener? Does it matter what the gender is? Through the health and social care sectors, women deal with men's healthcare and personal care issues, as men deal with women's. " Got to be honest, I would have preferred a female gynaecologist to do my membrane sweep. And all the stitching work in theatre afterwards. Before giving birth the only man who'd seen my bits was my then husband. I dealt with it but I would have been more comfortable I can't deny it. | |||
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"Why would a man even want to do that role anyway Why would a man be a midwife? Or gynaecologist? Or a breast screener? Does it matter what the gender is? Through the health and social care sectors, women deal with men's healthcare and personal care issues, as men deal with women's. Got to be honest, I would have preferred a female gynaecologist to do my membrane sweep. And all the stitching work in theatre afterwards. Before giving birth the only man who'd seen my bits was my then husband. I dealt with it but I would have been more comfortable I can't deny it. " Unless it was life threatening I would prefer a female gynea Dr I'd just be too uncomfortable with a male down there that i wouldn't be able to relax | |||
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"Why would a man even want to do that role anyway Why would a man be a midwife? Or gynaecologist? Or a breast screener? Does it matter what the gender is? Through the health and social care sectors, women deal with men's healthcare and personal care issues, as men deal with women's. I'll hold my hands up and say I'm waaay more comfortable with a woman in all those situations most especially breast screening which involves quite a lot of physical contact. I'm beyond caring. I've had urogynaecologists elbow deep and all sorts. So long as they can help me and aren't going to harm me, I'm easy
I can understand your feelings though. The job under discussion didn't involve physical contact though, it sounded more strategic, planning and coordinating?"No, the job under discussion didn't involve physical contact but the ones you mentioned very much do. I'm not suggesting for a minute that's why men choose them but it plays a big part in why I feel more comfortable with a woman in those circs. Mind you during the last part of labour I'd welcome a hippopotamus midwife if they had gas and air | |||
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"Why would a man even want to do that role anyway Why would a man be a midwife? Or gynaecologist? Or a breast screener? Does it matter what the gender is? Through the health and social care sectors, women deal with men's healthcare and personal care issues, as men deal with women's. Got to be honest, I would have preferred a female gynaecologist to do my membrane sweep. And all the stitching work in theatre afterwards. Before giving birth the only man who'd seen my bits was my then husband. I dealt with it but I would have been more comfortable I can't deny it. Unless it was life threatening I would prefer a female gynea Dr I'd just be too uncomfortable with a male down there that i wouldn't be able to relax " That was an issue for me, I wasn't prepared for a male either. Would have been better if they'd have said beforehand. At least I would have been mentally prepared for it | |||
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"Why would a man even want to do that role anyway" More importantly why wouldn't he? | |||
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" Unless it was life threatening I would prefer a female gynea Dr I'd just be too uncomfortable with a male down there that i wouldn't be able to relax " Before I was a swinger I was pregnant with twins. I went to hospital to have a bleed investigated. My husband was sitting next to me as a tall, handsome muscular black male gynecologist put his fingers inside me. I could feel myself getting turned on. It was a weird experience but memorable. | |||
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"You have to think of the target audience in matters like this. It has to be a role that people from 10 to 50+ can get behind. I feel it’s common sense for the role to be a female role because they can relate to the issue which potentially gives them a more understanding perspective of the issues. " Some of the least understanding gynaecologists and obstetricians I have encountered were female. The guy who did my vag surgery was bloody brilliant. Being of the female persuasion does not equal understanding or empathetic. | |||
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"Why would a man even want to do that role anyway Why would a man be a midwife? Or gynaecologist? Or a breast screener? Does it matter what the gender is? Through the health and social care sectors, women deal with men's healthcare and personal care issues, as men deal with women's. " That's different. People within professional health care roles are dealing issues which affect the opposite sex when there is generally something wrong and a specific medical training is required. For example, in a previous job I had dealings with a female nurse who worked extensively with a prostate cancer charity. Her medical background was relevant and invaluable. As was her caring & compassionate demeanour. This is not comparable to a experience (not an illness or medical condition) which only half of the population go through. The main target audience of this initiative were young girls who had not long began to menstruate and menopausal women. I can't think of anyone less suited than a young, attractive, former personal trainer who is a man. He's the last person I'd want to talk to about passing clots the size of a fucking cabbage or flooding in the middle of Costas. | |||
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" Unless it was life threatening I would prefer a female gynea Dr I'd just be too uncomfortable with a male down there that i wouldn't be able to relax Before I was a swinger I was pregnant with twins. I went to hospital to have a bleed investigated. My husband was sitting next to me as a tall, handsome muscular black male gynecologist put his fingers inside me. I could feel myself getting turned on. It was a weird experience but memorable. "  | |||
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"You have to think of the target audience in matters like this. It has to be a role that people from 10 to 50+ can get behind. I feel it’s common sense for the role to be a female role because they can relate to the issue which potentially gives them a more understanding perspective of the issues. Some of the least understanding gynaecologists and obstetricians I have encountered were female. The guy who did my vag surgery was bloody brilliant. Being of the female persuasion does not equal understanding or empathetic. " You're right but being male doesn't either. I had a cystoscopy performed by a male gynaecologist who didn't look me in the face once. Then when discussing his diagnosis he kept his back to me. | |||
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But to imagine a man perhaps going round a school to give a talk to raise awareness with the 11y/o+ demographic.... the boys and girls both would be mortified and likely take in little of it. Older these days probably wouldn't care if mine are any judge. | |||
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"Have had a mixure of male and female in the various medical trades and always felt fine unless they were students. The experienced were typically well-bored of what they were seeing and would carry on like they were tinkering on their car lol but newbies were usually awkward which was less comfortable for everyone in the room
But to imagine a man perhaps going round a school to give a talk to raise awareness with the 11y/o+ demographic.... the boys and girls both would be mortified and likely take in little of it. Older these days probably wouldn't care if mine are any judge."The job appears to have been behind the scenes, planning the strategy etc. Not actually going into schools. Presumably they'd have a team of people to do that with the officer doing the background planning. In any case, I do think we need to move on and ensure both boys and girls feel that they understand the bodily functions of the others, that this is normal and not something to be ashamed of etc. If we restrict the communication around periods only to women, we perpetuate the potential lack of knowledge and understanding among men and boys. Someone has to be the first. | |||
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"You have to think of the target audience in matters like this. It has to be a role that people from 10 to 50+ can get behind. I feel it’s common sense for the role to be a female role because they can relate to the issue which potentially gives them a more understanding perspective of the issues. Some of the least understanding gynaecologists and obstetricians I have encountered were female. The guy who did my vag surgery was bloody brilliant. Being of the female persuasion does not equal understanding or empathetic. " No, I agree it doesn’t necessarily but you could say that about men also, they can be very dismissive of issues girls and women have. | |||
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"Not quite the full story. Jason Grant quit the role then it was announced it would be scrapped- No explanation as to why it could not be re-advertised. Also no proof of 'threats'. I suspect this has more to do with the dodgy way he was appointed to this and other jobs by a friend. This role was only advertised for a week btw... ."Yes it was decidedly dodgy. I believe also advertised in the wrong area so a lot of qualified people might not have seen it. | |||
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"Demystify it all in a delicate, respectful way. Take away the horror stories or awkwardness. And create empathy on all sides." Yep. That will take a couple of generations though. | |||
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"Why would a man even want to do that role anyway Why would a man be a midwife? Or gynaecologist? Or a breast screener? Does it matter what the gender is? Through the health and social care sectors, women deal with men's healthcare and personal care issues, as men deal with women's. That's different. People within professional health care roles are dealing issues which affect the opposite sex when there is generally something wrong and a specific medical training is required. For example, in a previous job I had dealings with a female nurse who worked extensively with a prostate cancer charity. Her medical background was relevant and invaluable. As was her caring & compassionate demeanour. This is not comparable to a experience (not an illness or medical condition) which only half of the population go through. The main target audience of this initiative were young girls who had not long began to menstruate and menopausal women. I can't think of anyone less suited than a young, attractive, former personal trainer who is a man. He's the last person I'd want to talk to about passing clots the size of a fucking cabbage or flooding in the middle of Costas." I think that the job should have been limited to women. It's legal to do this for certain positions and I think sex is relevant for this role. | |||
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"Demystify it all in a delicate, respectful way. Take away the horror stories or awkwardness. And create empathy on all sides." Definitely! | |||
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"Have had a mixure of male and female in the various medical trades and always felt fine unless they were students. The experienced were typically well-bored of what they were seeing and would carry on like they were tinkering on their car lol but newbies were usually awkward which was less comfortable for everyone in the room
But to imagine a man perhaps going round a school to give a talk to raise awareness with the 11y/o+ demographic.... the boys and girls both would be mortified and likely take in little of it. Older these days probably wouldn't care if mine are any judge.
The job appears to have been behind the scenes, planning the strategy etc. Not actually going into schools. Presumably they'd have a team of people to do that with the officer doing the background planning.
In any case, I do think we need to move on and ensure both boys and girls feel that they understand the bodily functions of the others, that this is normal and not something to be ashamed of etc. If we restrict the communication around periods only to women, we perpetuate the potential lack of knowledge and understanding among men and boys.
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"From the little I've just read I think there are far greater issues at work here than a man being appointed. I suspect the huge taboo that still surrounds periods has a lot to do with it. I like the recent Always advert but I bet a few 'disgusted of Tunbridge Wells ' type complaints will have been received. " There's a new sanitary product that uses red instead of blur to represent menstrual blood and about time too. | |||
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"Not quite the full story. Jason Grant quit the role then it was announced it would be scrapped- No explanation as to why it could not be re-advertised. Also no proof of 'threats'. I suspect this has more to do with the dodgy way he was appointed to this and other jobs by a friend. This role was only advertised for a week btw... .
Yes it was decidedly dodgy. I believe also advertised in the wrong area so a lot of qualified people might not have seen it. "That is correct. | |||
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"Demystify it all in a delicate, respectful way. Take away the horror stories or awkwardness. And create empathy on all sides. Yep. That will take a couple of generations though." Most likely | |||
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"From the little I've just read I think there are far greater issues at work here than a man being appointed. I suspect the huge taboo that still surrounds periods has a lot to do with it. I like the recent Always advert but I bet a few 'disgusted of Tunbridge Wells ' type complaints will have been received. There's a new sanitary product that uses red instead of blur to represent menstrual blood and about time too." Yes this advert uses red. It's a slow process there are centuries of taboo to overcome | |||
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"It's disappointing that they scrapped the post. It's disappointing that the appointed candidate was hounded. It's disappointing that we're still at a point where we think periods should only be discussed by cis women. Chad Varah started Samiritans because a 14 year old girl died by suicide when she started her period. We've moved on enough to have period prodcuts advertised with red liquid instead of blue. Why are we stuck at stigmatising periods so that we're taught as girls to not talk about them with men? " Yep it's no surprise stereotypes are learned if we keep propagating that women can only be OK to talk about women's stuff with women... | |||
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"It's disappointing that they scrapped the post. It's disappointing that the appointed candidate was hounded. It's disappointing that we're still at a point where we think periods should only be discussed by cis women. Chad Varah started Samiritans because a 14 year old girl died by suicide when she started her period. We've moved on enough to have period prodcuts advertised with red liquid instead of blue. Why are we stuck at stigmatising periods so that we're taught as girls to not talk about them with men? " Yes, it definitely needs to be an open conversation. The generation of social media kids coming of age atm are in a more advantageous position than previous generations with all they have access to online etc. but they face other challenges now in stead for the same reason. It always needs to be handled sensitively to avoid causing negative outcomes like the one you quoted. There's no one-fits-all approach as we are multicultural and these and religious discretion have to be taken in to account also. So really, sensitivity and respect are the minimum starting point. | |||
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"If he was dismissed on the grounds of his gender then I hope he sues.... and to the hilt. FFS ..... I'd take the job of regional bollocks manager. I have the balls for it." Testicles? God you’re fucking hot. | |||
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