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By *mg 321 OP   Man
over a year ago

Blackpool

Jeez my fixed deal runs out end sept with BG. Currently pay £267 per month. They are quoting around 600 per month from October on, and £800 from January!!!

It’s so ridiculous it doesn’t seem real yet.

I have a hottub so that will be going off but other than that I am pretty careful though my kids are buggers with lights. Anyone else getting terrified?

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

Yep

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes and work money won’t cover it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your hot tub might be becoming a cold tub

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By *ister CMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Yes and work money won’t cover it "

Get yourself on OF

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By *rlandoMan
over a year ago

Lincs. yorks.

hot tubs , sunbeds , and tumble driers ! gonna be a drain on the electric ...

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

We've already issued shower time limits and started working out the best way to minimise excess use of energy. Somehow, our gas use in the last quarter of this year is 75% down on the same period in 2021, so will try to reduce further! Might start having showers at work!

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By *uckslut and MCouple
over a year ago

Poole

£267, do you have a mansion? I pay £131 for 3 bed. Currently just over £200 in credit, due to pay another DD tomorrow. Mind you we only put esentauls on, and unplug everything at wall, when not using. Then tumble was drawing even when plug was turned off. So it now gets unplugged.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"£267, do you have a mansion? I pay £131 for 3 bed. Currently just over £200 in credit, due to pay another DD tomorrow. Mind you we only put esentauls on, and unplug everything at wall, when not using. Then tumble was drawing even when plug was turned off. So it now gets unplugged. "

Our 1910s house is a weird wall construction and pretty draughty

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It terrifies me as I have 2 young children 1 with a medical condition and won't be able to pay the extra amount so not sure what will happen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They will quote on your house size etc. Just move onto a variable direct debit. Then when you give them meter readings, you will just pay your bill for what you have used. It stops you landing up with lots of your money in their bank. If you think you might spend the money. Setup a bank account and pay into it what you think is sensible and have the variable direct debit go from that account

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

Price per therm has come down quite a lot recently, you might get a reasonable deal. Guesswork though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Buy a jumper

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek

Shitting bricks.

I barely cover bills as it is and rely on tips I make at work for essential shopping and travel costs.

I'm gonna be buggered.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"Buy a jumper "

Should I burn it to cook dinner on?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am trying to work out why 100% renewable electricity has gone up when, as far as I can tell the cost of wind, sun and waves haven't increased. And the standing charge, wtf, that has sweet f all to do with the cost of gas or oil so how can anyone justify doubling it when it was already more than twice what it really should be

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By *ad boy maverickMan
over a year ago

basildon


"I am trying to work out why 100% renewable electricity has gone up when, as far as I can tell the cost of wind, sun and waves haven't increased. And the standing charge, wtf, that has sweet f all to do with the cost of gas or oil so how can anyone justify doubling it when it was already more than twice what it really should be"

Yeah that does manage to confound me too...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also less people will not be going to restaurant and bars and pubs as that money they would use is now being used for bills so that industry will fall again

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By *inger_SnapWoman
over a year ago

Hampshire/Dorset

I honestly think the government will do something before all this happens, they have to! Let's wait and see who comes into power next week, then the pressure will be on.

I will pay what I can afford, luckily it'll only be me at home most of the time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Buy a jumper

Should I burn it to cook dinner on?"

Needs must

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I am trying to work out why 100% renewable electricity has gone up when, as far as I can tell the cost of wind, sun and waves haven't increased. And the standing charge, wtf, that has sweet f all to do with the cost of gas or oil so how can anyone justify doubling it when it was already more than twice what it really should be"

Because the charge is based on the most expensive electricity, not the average

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By *inger_SnapWoman
over a year ago

Hampshire/Dorset


"Also less people will not be going to restaurant and bars and pubs as that money they would use is now being used for bills so that industry will fall again"

Might actually be cheaper to go out for a meal, and sit in a warm place for a few hours than be at home.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"Buy a jumper

Should I burn it to cook dinner on?

Needs must "

Perhaps we should eat it?!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Also less people will not be going to restaurant and bars and pubs as that money they would use is now being used for bills so that industry will fall again"

And businesses don't have capped rates like homes, they'll really struggle

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By *incsladyandscotsmanCouple
over a year ago

North fife

Quite simply everyone is funked and the economy will crash if nothing is done about thase robbing b@#tards.

That's how serious this is. Domestically we have a price cap, businesses don't. The price to heat hospitals, schools, swimming pools etc is enough to shut them down.

This is bigger than covid way bigger and more deadlier

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Buy a jumper

Should I burn it to cook dinner on?

Needs must

Perhaps we should eat it?!"

I mean I won't judge.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh boris suggested getting a new kettle to save £10 a year. He’s just full of great ideas isn’t he

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Oh boris suggested getting a new kettle to save £10 a year. He’s just full of great ideas isn’t he "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm obviously getting it easier than some people. My direct debit for energy was £39, it went up to £47 after I chose fixed rate tariff until 2024. I'm so sorry people are struggling and I genuinely mean that x

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

If the councils all eased up planning permission for solar panels and other micro generating kit for domestic and business usage, then that would go a long way to easing the burden and might top up the national grid too.

Legislation is adding to the frustration, by by strangulating micro generation.

Sea power, has sadly been overlooked. The tides never stop and can be predicted 100 years in advance.

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough


"I'm obviously getting it easier than some people. My direct debit for energy was £39, it went up to £47 after I chose fixed rate tariff until 2024. I'm so sorry people are struggling and I genuinely mean that x"

don't apologise for proving some good news and doing the right thing.

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek


"Also less people will not be going to restaurant and bars and pubs as that money they would use is now being used for bills so that industry will fall again

And businesses don't have capped rates like homes, they'll really struggle "

Our kitchen energy costs were already into the hundreds a day. Char grill the size of a 3 seater sofa, oven, hob, grill. Bare in mind they need time to get to temp before we open, so are costing money before we are able to take money. I doubt that we'll cover running costs on a quiet day once the prices go mega silly.

We're having to leave all non essentials off until they need be used (glass washer, lights, drinks machine)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There was a programme in my local radio station this week about the fuel prices.

One of the experts was saying that some people are going to be tempted to get someone in to fix their electrics so it bypasses their meter.

He said there will be a demand for people to do this, and not all of them will be qualified, so he is expecting to see a large increase in house fires

It's something I hadn't thought of.

Time to check my house insurance is covering everything incase one of my neighbours tries it

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough


"There was a programme in my local radio station this week about the fuel prices.

One of the experts was saying that some people are going to be tempted to get someone in to fix their electrics so it bypasses their meter.

He said there will be a demand for people to do this, and not all of them will be qualified, so he is expecting to see a large increase in house fires

It's something I hadn't thought of.

Time to check my house insurance is covering everything incase one of my neighbours tries it "

electricity theft is real, especially with external meter boxes.

Fire is the biggest risk with both fuels.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm obviously getting it easier than some people. My direct debit for energy was £39, it went up to £47 after I chose fixed rate tariff until 2024. I'm so sorry people are struggling and I genuinely mean that x

don't apologise for proving some good news and doing the right thing."

One thing I never do is have the heating on every night in the winter. I did that once, never again, my bill sky rocketed! My flat never heats up anyway unless it's the summer x

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough


"Oh boris suggested getting a new kettle to save £10 a year. He’s just full of great ideas isn’t he "

Can you boil his head in it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm obviously getting it easier than some people. My direct debit for energy was £39, it went up to £47 after I chose fixed rate tariff until 2024. I'm so sorry people are struggling and I genuinely mean that x"

Yes me too. It saddens me to think about the people who just can't pay.

I'm in a very fortunate position that I can afford it.

However I will be showering and drying my hair at the gym everyday starting next month.

I've already stopped using the oven and bought an air fryer.

I'm rarely at home, and when I am it's usually just to sleep, so can manage without the heating (new build) and the dogs can have my old electric throw on really cold nights.

We shouldn't have to do these things though

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough


"I'm obviously getting it easier than some people. My direct debit for energy was £39, it went up to £47 after I chose fixed rate tariff until 2024. I'm so sorry people are struggling and I genuinely mean that x

don't apologise for proving some good news and doing the right thing.

One thing I never do is have the heating on every night in the winter. I did that once, never again, my bill sky rocketed! My flat never heats up anyway unless it's the summer x"

I've got a flat like that, I've got trees that stqarve my flat of direct summer sun and a balcony above me that does the same thing.

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By *anPsurreycoupleCouple
over a year ago

Surrey

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Gym membership? Use their facilities? Spending time there instead of home which will reduce your spend and get fit?

Walk more where possible ?

Research the experts and their suggestions?

Sign petitions? You never know….

Layering of clothing?

Research renewable and if it can be long term gain for short term pain?

Cook on the bbq? Is that a cheaper option?

Candles?

Squaddie showers?

All sound extreme maybe… but if we’re in a position like this then we maybe we need to act extreme?

Maybe there is a miracle around the corner.. we never know

We all have to share our ideas if they’re working so we can pull together … become communities again rather than individuals

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By *anPsurreycoupleCouple
over a year ago

Surrey

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By *anPsurreycoupleCouple
over a year ago

Surrey

Finally got round to installing the solar thermal hot water panels and all relevant parts. Haven't had to turn my boiler on for 6 weeks now. And even on the days it has rained and was over cast I had 60c hot water. All lights got switched over to smart LEDs just looking at ways to save energy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm obviously getting it easier than some people. My direct debit for energy was £39, it went up to £47 after I chose fixed rate tariff until 2024. I'm so sorry people are struggling and I genuinely mean that x

Yes me too. It saddens me to think about the people who just can't pay.

I'm in a very fortunate position that I can afford it.

However I will be showering and drying my hair at the gym everyday starting next month.

I've already stopped using the oven and bought an air fryer.

I'm rarely at home, and when I am it's usually just to sleep, so can manage without the heating (new build) and the dogs can have my old electric throw on really cold nights.

We shouldn't have to do these things though "

Every winter I'm wrapped up, got the blanket, hot water bottle and the hooded dressing gown. If my mother and father knew they would be horrified. I'm desperate to move to a flat more modern and which is fairly warm in the cold months without the heating on. It's sad having to live like this x

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By *KG12Couple
over a year ago

Burnley


"They will quote on your house size etc. Just move onto a variable direct debit. Then when you give them meter readings, you will just pay your bill for what you have used. It stops you landing up with lots of your money in their bank. If you think you might spend the money. Setup a bank account and pay into it what you think is sensible and have the variable direct debit go from that account"

We've been giving our meter readings and used a grand total of 8.50 in gas throughout August. Total bill just over 20 quid including daily charges. They have just asked us to reduce our DD.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Finally got round to installing the solar thermal hot water panels and all relevant parts. Haven't had to turn my boiler on for 6 weeks now. And even on the days it has rained and was over cast I had 60c hot water. All lights got switched over to smart LEDs just looking at ways to save energy"

Where did you get the panels etc from? Expensive? Easy to fit?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I generally wish everyone the best I'm also worried about my mother she is not well and in her 70s Im barely able support my family with the energy crisis let alone trying to help my mum

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Quite simply everyone is funked and the economy will crash if nothing is done about thase robbing b@#tards.

That's how serious this is. Domestically we have a price cap, businesses don't. The price to heat hospitals, schools, swimming pools etc is enough to shut them down.

This is bigger than covid way bigger and more deadlier "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yet come GE, it's labours fault 14 years ago and cons will save the day

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By *d59michelleTV/TS
over a year ago

walsall

Have seen a cannabis farm catch fire after they had by passed the meter

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By *anPsurreycoupleCouple
over a year ago

Surrey


"Finally got round to installing the solar thermal hot water panels and all relevant parts. Haven't had to turn my boiler on for 6 weeks now. And even on the days it has rained and was over cast I had 60c hot water. All lights got switched over to smart LEDs just looking at ways to save energy

Where did you get the panels etc from? Expensive? Easy to fit? "
you can buy the parts online. I have had them in my garage for a few years now when I got a deal on it.just needed to replace my cylinder which I did .I didn't find it hard to install but can imagine someone people would need to get installers in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Finally got round to installing the solar thermal hot water panels and all relevant parts. Haven't had to turn my boiler on for 6 weeks now. And even on the days it has rained and was over cast I had 60c hot water. All lights got switched over to smart LEDs just looking at ways to save energy

Where did you get the panels etc from? Expensive? Easy to fit? you can buy the parts online. I have had them in my garage for a few years now when I got a deal on it.just needed to replace my cylinder which I did .I didn't find it hard to install but can imagine someone people would need to get installers in"

Thanks

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"Oh boris suggested getting a new kettle to save £10 a year. He’s just full of great ideas isn’t he "

We just got a new kettle. Because ours died

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Oh boris suggested getting a new kettle to save £10 a year. He’s just full of great ideas isn’t he

We just got a new kettle. Because ours died "

My kettle died just after my first Pfizer vaccine

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

Couldn’t believe what I was reading, then you said hot tub

If anyone is running a large kettle in their garden, I’d hope they’d realise it might cost a lot

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By *ortyairCouple
over a year ago

Wallasey

We currently pay over £500 a month. Not thinking about October and January terrifies us xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh boris suggested getting a new kettle to save £10 a year. He’s just full of great ideas isn’t he "

Smart man...

Miss S x

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"I'm obviously getting it easier than some people. My direct debit for energy was £39, it went up to £47 after I chose fixed rate tariff until 2024. I'm so sorry people are struggling and I genuinely mean that x"

Our dual fuel DD is now £170 a month....

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I saw someone on Twitter saying they were being quoted over £850 a month from October.

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham


"I honestly think the government will do something before all this happens, they have to! Let's wait and see who comes into power next week, then the pressure will be on.

I will pay what I can afford, luckily it'll only be me at home most of the time."

So do I. Experts predict it will definitely be like this for the next 12-18 months. Election is 2 years ago. The Tories will definitely be voted out if people are still hurting from this.

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By *mateur100Man
over a year ago

nr faversham

FFS is the amount per unit...if your heating is on all the time you're going to be paying more. I'm in a 4bed house paying around £70 pcm

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

Away not ago.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"FFS is the amount per unit...if your heating is on all the time you're going to be paying more. I'm in a 4bed house paying around £70 pcm"

Our heating has not been on since March. It's £170 a month dual fuel. 3 bed 1910s house, 4 adults, 1 child.

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By *ovingSussexLifeMan
over a year ago

West Sussex

I work for one of the big 6 suppliers. This will last for years to come. Thousands of businesses will fail. Its horrible to see from behind the scenes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But if these energy companies are making so much profit why cripple other businesses let alone the public

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"£267, do you have a mansion? I pay £131 for 3 bed. Currently just over £200 in credit, due to pay another DD tomorrow. Mind you we only put esentauls on, and unplug everything at wall, when not using. Then tumble was drawing even when plug was turned off. So it now gets unplugged. "

We live in average 3 bed semi was paying £108 now £179 they offered me a two year price fix of £326 told them to stuff it. Really don’t know what my October bill will be up to yet all I know is I can’t offord £326.

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By *ovingSussexLifeMan
over a year ago

West Sussex


"But if these energy companies are making so much profit why cripple other businesses let alone the public"

It's not the suppliers making the money, it's the gas and oil producers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *HaRiFMan
over a year ago

Beyond the shadows.


"I honestly think the government will do something before all this happens, they have to! Let's wait and see who comes into power next week, then the pressure will be on.

I will pay what I can afford, luckily it'll only be me at home most of the time."

We'll be fecked which ever one gets in , might be slightly more fecked if it's Liz.

Hopefully the enough is enough and don't pay UK get even more traction, to put some pressure on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"£267, do you have a mansion? I pay £131 for 3 bed. Currently just over £200 in credit, due to pay another DD tomorrow. Mind you we only put esentauls on, and unplug everything at wall, when not using. Then tumble was drawing even when plug was turned off. So it now gets unplugged.

It's madness surely if thousands of people think stuff it not paying what really can they do

We live in average 3 bed semi was paying £108 now £179 they offered me a two year price fix of £326 told them to stuff it. Really don’t know what my October bill will be up to yet all I know is I can’t offord £326. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Few private households and businesses can absorb such massive increases, there is going to have to be radical change somewhere in the economics of this.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Few private households and businesses can absorb such massive increases, there is going to have to be radical change somewhere in the economics of this."

Most people I know are cutting right back - and fearing it won't be enough.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think cutting back will be enough for the majority second jobs will be had to get as the economy will fall because of the rises

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Also less people will not be going to restaurant and bars and pubs as that money they would use is now being used for bills so that industry will fall again

Might actually be cheaper to go out for a meal, and sit in a warm place for a few hours than be at home."

That's actually how public houses began!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I don't think cutting back will be enough for the majority second jobs will be had to get as the economy will fall because of the rises"

And as businesses close because of the cost of electric, do we get these second jobs on the magic job tree?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Shouldn't worry too much about the cost of energy being a grand a month - hyper inflation will make a grand worth as much as half a crown soon

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By *HaRiFMan
over a year ago

Beyond the shadows.


"Shouldn't worry too much about the cost of energy being a grand a month - hyper inflation will make a grand worth as much as half a crown soon"

Stuck between a rock and a hard place.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Shouldn't worry too much about the cost of energy being a grand a month - hyper inflation will make a grand worth as much as half a crown soon"

And people will still moan that workers want pay rises. It's a bit Oliver Twist

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By *om and JennieCouple
over a year ago

Chams or Socials

My dad has just had solar panels fitted. He’ll be aeeing even more of me than he does now

J

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By *moothshaftMan
over a year ago

Coventry

I'm thinking of going on the game!

Randy OAP anyone?

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By *iger4uWoman
over a year ago

In my happy place

My combined gas electric is about £52 a month. And i am at home, working most days.

But i am careful turning wall socket switches off.

Not sure what people are doing to be paying nearly £300 a month now??

Im not locked in to a rate either.

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By *iger4uWoman
over a year ago

In my happy place


"But if these energy companies are making so much profit why cripple other businesses let alone the public"

The share holders are offshore in some instances, water companies etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My combined gas electric is about £52 a month. And i am at home, working most days.

But i am careful turning wall socket switches off.

Not sure what people are doing to be paying nearly £300 a month now??

Im not locked in to a rate either."
what company are you with

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"My combined gas electric is about £52 a month. And i am at home, working most days.

But i am careful turning wall socket switches off.

Not sure what people are doing to be paying nearly £300 a month now??

Im not locked in to a rate either."

What kind of property and age, and how many occupants?

We are certainly not careless with our energy use, but our dual fuel DD is £170. 4 adults, 1 child in a weirdly constructed and draughty 3 bed, 1910s quasi-semi.

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By *nSeeNMan
over a year ago

Z'ha'dum


"My combined gas electric is about £52 a month. And i am at home, working most days.

But i am careful turning wall socket switches off.

Not sure what people are doing to be paying nearly £300 a month now??

Im not locked in to a rate either."

How does switching sockets off save on gas prices ?

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By *romagefraisWoman
over a year ago

Sunderland

Work in Smart meter analysis, had a canny few recently where the customers have blew up their meters trying to tamper with them and see many, many more where the meter has alerted us of a possible attempt to tamper it. I think it's only a matter of time where someone seriously injures themselves.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"

How does switching sockets off save on gas prices ? "

Switching off the electric ignition of the gas hob and never using it.

Switching off the gas boiler and central heating.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"

How does switching sockets off save on gas prices ?

Switching off the electric ignition of the gas hob and never using it.

Switching off the gas boiler and central heating."

We'd have no hot water if we turned off the boiler...... Obviously heating not currently on, but if we want hot water, we have to pay for some gas. We also cook 100% with gas.

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By *iger4uWoman
over a year ago

In my happy place


"My combined gas electric is about £52 a month. And i am at home, working most days.

But i am careful turning wall socket switches off.

Not sure what people are doing to be paying nearly £300 a month now??

Im not locked in to a rate either.

How does switching sockets off save on gas prices ? "

The thread is titled gas and electric...

If you leave an item plugged in, and that plug is warm, its trickling electricity.

Thought everyone knew.

Nothing to do with gas.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

How does switching sockets off save on gas prices ?

Switching off the electric ignition of the gas hob and never using it.

Switching off the gas boiler and central heating.

We'd have no hot water if we turned off the boiler...... Obviously heating not currently on, but if we want hot water, we have to pay for some gas. We also cook 100% with gas. "

BBQ and a Kelly kettle anyone?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"

How does switching sockets off save on gas prices ?

Switching off the electric ignition of the gas hob and never using it.

Switching off the gas boiler and central heating.

We'd have no hot water if we turned off the boiler...... Obviously heating not currently on, but if we want hot water, we have to pay for some gas. We also cook 100% with gas.

BBQ and a Kelly kettle anyone?"

We've discussed whether it might be cheaper to BBQ in the garden all winter. Is fuel for the BBQ any cheaper than gas?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

How does switching sockets off save on gas prices ?

Switching off the electric ignition of the gas hob and never using it.

Switching off the gas boiler and central heating.

We'd have no hot water if we turned off the boiler...... Obviously heating not currently on, but if we want hot water, we have to pay for some gas. We also cook 100% with gas.

BBQ and a Kelly kettle anyone?

We've discussed whether it might be cheaper to BBQ in the garden all winter. Is fuel for the BBQ any cheaper than gas?! "

Guess it is if you burn down scavenged seasoned hardwood. I do that quite alot when out and about in the van.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"

How does switching sockets off save on gas prices ?

Switching off the electric ignition of the gas hob and never using it.

Switching off the gas boiler and central heating.

We'd have no hot water if we turned off the boiler...... Obviously heating not currently on, but if we want hot water, we have to pay for some gas. We also cook 100% with gas.

BBQ and a Kelly kettle anyone?

We've discussed whether it might be cheaper to BBQ in the garden all winter. Is fuel for the BBQ any cheaper than gas?!

Guess it is if you burn down scavenged seasoned hardwood. I do that quite alot when out and about in the van."

There's not a lot of that to be scavenged round these parts!

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

What I find annoying is that these companies are also increasing the standing charge price, so if you used zero units of power your bill is still going up just for having a contract with them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I honestly think the government will do something before all this happens, they have to! Let's wait and see who comes into power next week, then the pressure will be on.

I will pay what I can afford, luckily it'll only be me at home most of the time.

So do I. Experts predict it will definitely be like this for the next 12-18 months. Election is 2 years ago. The Tories will definitely be voted out if people are still hurting from this.

"

Will they? We were given the opportunity to get them out last time, the masses talked about it but never stepped up and voted. Unless people actually act rather than talk then we are unlikely to see change which will please the less fortunate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"But if these energy companies are making so much profit why cripple other businesses let alone the public

It's not the suppliers making the money, it's the gas and oil producers"

I’d say the suppliers are making a little more than something hmmm

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've made loads of cut backs so I can afford a loan to get solar panels so that I can afford to have a hot tub.

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By *ryandseeMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire

It's OK us talking about what we will do but would be nice to see our elected politicians do something to stop this free for all and frankly devastating increases. Other countries are handling this differently and whilst there have bern increases, they have so far protected their citizens from such catastrophic impact. This quite frankly is bringing the whole country to its knees and the effects, including that on the mental health of people, are just horrendous.

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By *yron69Man
over a year ago

Fareham

Unbelievable when I can remember being told North Sea gas was the source of cheap fuel.

But as theses firms profits soar makes you wonder what the real issues are ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Employees are being given a special 'cost of living payment' where i work (4 figures)

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By *nn_JamesCouple
over a year ago

Berkshire/ South Bucks Borders

Sainsbury Energy just quoted me £ 662.72 (estimate on 1 Year Fix and Reward v36) d/debit from October for 1 year!!!!

We are pay £139 month currently.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"Employees are being given a special 'cost of living payment' where i work (4 figures) "

Wow that’s good of them. But it will be subject to tax and NI right so they lose half (if paying HR) ? Dint think there’s any way a company can give you anything other direct expense without tax.

I claim a per diems, $100 per day when I work at my home or a hotel to cover costs of heat, food etc and half to give up half in tax

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Employees are being given a special 'cost of living payment' where i work (4 figures)

Wow that’s good of them. But it will be subject to tax and NI right so they lose half (if paying HR) ? Dint think there’s any way a company can give you anything other direct expense without tax.

I claim a per diems, $100 per day when I work at my home or a hotel to cover costs of heat, food etc and half to give up half in tax

"

Oh yeah, it'll be taxable etc (i think most of them will be below HR) .. But i was still amazed they did it... Its hitting their paypackets this month i think.

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By *ust-a-GuyMan
over a year ago

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"I am trying to work out why 100% renewable electricity has gone up when, as far as I can tell the cost of wind, sun and waves haven't increased. And the standing charge, wtf, that has sweet f all to do with the cost of gas or oil so how can anyone justify doubling it when it was already more than twice what it really should be"

The cost of electricity per unit is based upon the gas price, this is due to the UK historically generating most power with gas power stations.

This is something that needs to change.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm dreading to think what mines going to do next year. I manage to lock mine in for 2 years, I'm still having to adjust my DD a little to make sure I have a little Lee way. But come July unless the govt get their thumbs out of their collective arses, I'm going to be looking at a minimum of £130 increase in electric. And that's in a new build bungalow. I wonder what I did with the slankets?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im currently paying £67 which is probably £15 per month that i need to pay, hopefully the extra will soak up some of the increase in price... I will add im not a big energy user

Also I've just bought £600 worth of heating oil which should get me through to early spring as i have the heat on low.. but it is very worrying when you think about all the other increases as well

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"Sainsbury Energy just quoted me £ 662.72 (estimate on 1 Year Fix and Reward v36) d/debit from October for 1 year!!!!

We are pay £139 month currently."

Why are uswitch saying shell are the cheapest and I should not switch ? , the tariff im on flex April 2022 , no DD. Elec is 29.1 pkwh +50.53 SC gas is 7.6 pkwh +32.00 Set to rise on Oct by 80% . Shell dont offer any fixed tariffs . is this really the cheapest on the market ?

it’s £2,100 per year and apparently rising to nearly £4,000

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Employees are being given a special 'cost of living payment' where i work (4 figures)

Wow that’s good of them. But it will be subject to tax and NI right so they lose half (if paying HR) ? Dint think there’s any way a company can give you anything other direct expense without tax.

I claim a per diems, $100 per day when I work at my home or a hotel to cover costs of heat, food etc and half to give up half in tax

"

HMRC has clear non taxable Per Diem scales. If you claim more than that it becomes taxable income.

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By *rhugesMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

How are you paying do much . I'm on a variable tariff and pay for what I use.

I live in a 5 bed house and my combined gas and electric bill for August was £77.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I live with four teens in a Victorian 4 bed house. Last combined bill was £185. I don't think I will be able to afford to put the heating on this winter.

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By *ryandseeMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire


"How are you paying do much . I'm on a variable tariff and pay for what I use.

I live in a 5 bed house and my combined gas and electric bill for August was £77."

This is exactly what I don't understand. People quoting such different figures. I know it will depend on personal circumstances but it seems to very from like you said £77 or similar to hundreads of pounds. I suppose we will all know for sure in October when the bigger bills will start arriving.

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By *ad boy maverickMan
over a year ago

basildon


"If the councils all eased up planning permission for solar panels and other micro generating kit for domestic and business usage, then that would go a long way to easing the burden and might top up the national grid too.

Legislation is adding to the frustration, by by strangulating micro generation.

Sea power, has sadly been overlooked. The tides never stop and can be predicted 100 years in advance. "

This is part of what I don't understand. Apparently they have built a hydro.plant in Wales ! ?

Should have provided half the countries power. On top of solar and wind but we are only producing 1/8 of the countries requirements. Someone's bullshit ting us somewhere along the line.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"How are you paying do much . I'm on a variable tariff and pay for what I use.

I live in a 5 bed house and my combined gas and electric bill for August was £77.

This is exactly what I don't understand. People quoting such different figures. I know it will depend on personal circumstances but it seems to very from like you said £77 or similar to hundreads of pounds. I suppose we will all know for sure in October when the bigger bills will start arriving. "

I pay as I go, on smart meters. Using less than £5pw on my gas just now... need it for hot water and cooking...

My electric however has now gone up to average of £46 pw now.

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By *iamondCougarWoman
over a year ago

Norfuck! / Lincolnshire

You can put your monthly usage or spend into the Martin Lewis website and it calculates how the increase will be

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By *d59michelleTV/TS
over a year ago

walsall

The cost of electricity per unit is based upon the gas price, this is due to the UK historically generating most power with gas power stations.

This is something that needs to change.

Pity they got rid of the pits and nearly all of the coal fired power stations

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The cost of electricity per unit is based upon the gas price, this is due to the UK historically generating most power with gas power stations.

This is something that needs to change.

Pity they got rid of the pits and nearly all of the coal fired power stations "

You can’t say things like that about burning coal poor little Greta Thunburg will start shouting blah blah blah and cry again

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By *ed VoluptaWoman
over a year ago

Wirral.

What the heck are you guys doing to have such high bills?

I live in a 2 bed Victorian maisonette and my combined monthly DD went up in the summer from £50 to £79, and likely to be about £100 from next month.

Granted, I live alone but i also work from home. However, I don't have a tumble dryer, don't use a kettle and my heating doesn't come on until mid November & certainly not all day. If I'm cold, I put a jumper on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mini nuclear power station outside every major town - that's a novel idea!

Never happen..... Or will it???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What the heck are you guys doing to have such high bills?

I live in a 2 bed Victorian maisonette and my combined monthly DD went up in the summer from £50 to £79, and likely to be about £100 from next month.

Granted, I live alone but i also work from home. However, I don't have a tumble dryer, don't use a kettle and my heating doesn't come on until mid November & certainly not all day. If I'm cold, I put a jumper on. "

I don't understand your query? You live in a 2 bed house alone. Of course more people in a 3 or 4 bed house will use more energy!

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By *exy4youxxWoman
over a year ago

Pontefract


"Jeez my fixed deal runs out end sept with BG. Currently pay £267 per month. They are quoting around 600 per month from October on, and £800 from January!!!

It’s so ridiculous it doesn’t seem real yet.

I have a hottub so that will be going off but other than that I am pretty careful though my kids are buggers with lights. Anyone else getting terrified? "

Don't fall into that trap they are ripping you off ... I don't pay more than 150 a month for mine octopus sent me an email saying they were changing it I told them if they did I would change as I'm always in credit on a smart meter and know EXACTLY what I'm using... x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What the heck are you guys doing to have such high bills?

I live in a 2 bed Victorian maisonette and my combined monthly DD went up in the summer from £50 to £79, and likely to be about £100 from next month.

Granted, I live alone but i also work from home. However, I don't have a tumble dryer, don't use a kettle and my heating doesn't come on until mid November & certainly not all day. If I'm cold, I put a jumper on.

I don't understand your query? You live in a 2 bed house alone. Of course more people in a 3 or 4 bed house will use more energy! "

And if they are between the ages of 6 and 26 and don't pay bills they haven't learned what the O F F switch is for

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By *mp411Man
over a year ago

chester

I've joined don't pay uk come Oct DD cancelled just think of all the extra money you paid in summer earning the suppliers millions in interest.... I can only see this winter going one way when granny's start freezing to death while 100s of 000s of illegal immigrants are in 4* hotels free food no bills new phones £175 a week spends a VIOLENT AND BRUTAL REVOLUTION WILL HAPPEN

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've joined don't pay uk come Oct DD cancelled just think of all the extra money you paid in summer earning the suppliers millions in interest.... I can only see this winter going one way when granny's start freezing to death while 100s of 000s of illegal immigrants are in 4* hotels free food no bills new phones £175 a week spends a VIOLENT AND BRUTAL REVOLUTION WILL HAPPEN "

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By *avexxMan
over a year ago

cheshire

the country needs a a complete reset,,

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By *mp411Man
over a year ago

chester


"the country needs a a complete reset,, "

REVOLUTION not reset

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville


"I've joined don't pay uk come Oct DD cancelled just think of all the extra money you paid in summer earning the suppliers millions in interest.... I can only see this winter going one way when granny's start freezing to death while 100s of 000s of illegal immigrants are in 4* hotels free food no bills new phones £175 a week spends a VIOLENT AND BRUTAL REVOLUTION WILL HAPPEN "

Suppliers are going bust - 29 of them last year. Their customers were taken on by larger suppliers and any profits they had are been used in the scramble to buy energy which is in short supply.

It is the oil and gas producers/refiners that are making the tremendous profits, but you're not going to petrol stations, filling up and driving off, as you don't have the brutal revolutionary big balls for that.

Our cost of living isn't affected by some imaginary 100,000(s) illegal immigrants poshing it up on camp beds under tinfoil. You've made excuse not to pay bills and are passing it onto grannies (who were all once migrants).

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"What the heck are you guys doing to have such high bills?

I live in a 2 bed Victorian maisonette and my combined monthly DD went up in the summer from £50 to £79, and likely to be about £100 from next month.

Granted, I live alone but i also work from home. However, I don't have a tumble dryer, don't use a kettle and my heating doesn't come on until mid November & certainly not all day. If I'm cold, I put a jumper on. "

In our case, we're having 5x electric showers per day (4 adults, 1 child). Short, but showers nonetheless. We're running 3x bedrooms, 1x living room, 1x kitchen, 1x dining room, 1x kitchen. We have 4 adults charging phones, running laptops (for work and study). We have 1 television which is on very little. We use gas to cook. All our hot water comes from the gas boiler, plus heating when required (certainly not now). We have 4 adults and 1 child's worth of laundry to do. My clothes are one wear, because using the wheelchair means I'm usually filthy. My son works in a manual job, lifting and carrying dirty equipment, often outdoors. His clothing is often one wear. His girlfriend works in catering. Ditto the one wear. The child comes home from school/holiday club covered in all sorts of food, paint, muck and all the rest, so again, little wear out of clothes before washing. This means our (A rated) washing machine is on probably 6-8 times a week, possibly 10 times sometimes. And that's with an 8kg drum.

Our fridge and freezer needs to stock enough for 5 people, 4 of them adults.

You have no upstairs, only one level. We have 7 rooms across two floors (all in use), all with very high ceilings. We also have a loft space above, which although insulated will allow some heat loss. This means when we do need heating, there's a lot more space to fill here than at yours.

We are currently (before the new prices) paying £170 for dual fuel and short of stopping washing or something, I can't see how the 5 of us could make our DD as low as yours.

Economies of scale.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've joined don't pay uk come Oct DD cancelled just think of all the extra money you paid in summer earning the suppliers millions in interest.... I can only see this winter going one way when granny's start freezing to death while 100s of 000s of illegal immigrants are in 4* hotels free food no bills new phones £175 a week spends a VIOLENT AND BRUTAL REVOLUTION WILL HAPPEN "

Fuck me, can't wait to leave this country and awful attitudes behind.

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By *ottom charlieMan
over a year ago

washington


"Jeez my fixed deal runs out end sept with BG. Currently pay £267 per month. They are quoting around 600 per month from October on, and £800 from January!!!

It’s so ridiculous it doesn’t seem real yet.

I have a hottub so that will be going off but other than that I am pretty careful though my kids are buggers with lights. Anyone else getting terrified? "
everyone need to make big changes to cut costs,,, instead of each child playing in their bedrooms switch off all the lights computers exbox etc all play family games at the dinner table e.g. ludo cards scrabble close the door to keep in heat,,,, turn the heating down to 15 degrees wear a few layers of clothes vest shirt jumper and a wool hat,, 2/5th of all body heat is lost through your head,, its all drastic measures but its your money save as much as you can and keep it out of the pockets of those slugs who are making billions out of everyone's misery

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What the heck are you guys doing to have such high bills?

I live in a 2 bed Victorian maisonette and my combined monthly DD went up in the summer from £50 to £79, and likely to be about £100 from next month.

Granted, I live alone but i also work from home. However, I don't have a tumble dryer, don't use a kettle and my heating doesn't come on until mid November & certainly not all day. If I'm cold, I put a jumper on.

In our case, we're having 5x electric showers per day (4 adults, 1 child). Short, but showers nonetheless. We're running 3x bedrooms, 1x living room, 1x kitchen, 1x dining room, 1x kitchen. We have 4 adults charging phones, running laptops (for work and study). We have 1 television which is on very little. We use gas to cook. All our hot water comes from the gas boiler, plus heating when required (certainly not now). We have 4 adults and 1 child's worth of laundry to do. My clothes are one wear, because using the wheelchair means I'm usually filthy. My son works in a manual job, lifting and carrying dirty equipment, often outdoors. His clothing is often one wear. His girlfriend works in catering. Ditto the one wear. The child comes home from school/holiday club covered in all sorts of food, paint, muck and all the rest, so again, little wear out of clothes before washing. This means our (A rated) washing machine is on probably 6-8 times a week, possibly 10 times sometimes. And that's with an 8kg drum.

Our fridge and freezer needs to stock enough for 5 people, 4 of them adults.

You have no upstairs, only one level. We have 7 rooms across two floors (all in use), all with very high ceilings. We also have a loft space above, which although insulated will allow some heat loss. This means when we do need heating, there's a lot more space to fill here than at yours.

We are currently (before the new prices) paying £170 for dual fuel and short of stopping washing or something, I can't see how the 5 of us could make our DD as low as yours.

Economies of scale. "

That is a lot of stuff going on, as another single occupant you have my sympathies.

You do keep mentioning gas however, my gas is currently 4 times cheaper per unit than my electricity. If your hot water is gas can you try baths? Yeah, water costs too but not that much in comparison. Might help over the course of a whole year. 10 mins in an electric shower at 28p a unit is £120 plus a year (for a low rated electric shower), so potentially that times 5 people is a lot of money.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

In our case, we're having 5x electric showers per day (4 adults, 1 child). Short, but showers nonetheless. We're running 3x bedrooms, 1x living room, 1x kitchen, 1x dining room, 1x kitchen. We have 4 adults charging phones, running laptops (for work and study). We have 1 television which is on very little. We use gas to cook. All our hot water comes from the gas boiler, plus heating when required (certainly not now). We have 4 adults and 1 child's worth of laundry to do. My clothes are one wear, because using the wheelchair means I'm usually filthy. My son works in a manual job, lifting and carrying dirty equipment, often outdoors. His clothing is often one wear. His girlfriend works in catering. Ditto the one wear. The child comes home from school/holiday club covered in all sorts of food, paint, muck and all the rest, so again, little wear out of clothes before washing. This means our (A rated) washing machine is on probably 6-8 times a week, possibly 10 times sometimes. And that's with an 8kg drum.

Our fridge and freezer needs to stock enough for 5 people, 4 of them adults.

You have no upstairs, only one level. We have 7 rooms across two floors (all in use), all with very high ceilings. We also have a loft space above, which although insulated will allow some heat loss. This means when we do need heating, there's a lot more space to fill here than at yours.

We are currently (before the new prices) paying £170 for dual fuel and short of stopping washing or something, I can't see how the 5 of us could make our DD as low as yours.

Economies of scale. "

You are actually doing quite well there then. I do nowhere near that and my bills hit £150 last month. May have to concede the hot tub was a bad idea mind.

Being energy mindful will definitely pay off in the next year or so.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"What the heck are you guys doing to have such high bills?

I live in a 2 bed Victorian maisonette and my combined monthly DD went up in the summer from £50 to £79, and likely to be about £100 from next month.

Granted, I live alone but i also work from home. However, I don't have a tumble dryer, don't use a kettle and my heating doesn't come on until mid November & certainly not all day. If I'm cold, I put a jumper on.

In our case, we're having 5x electric showers per day (4 adults, 1 child). Short, but showers nonetheless. We're running 3x bedrooms, 1x living room, 1x kitchen, 1x dining room, 1x kitchen. We have 4 adults charging phones, running laptops (for work and study). We have 1 television which is on very little. We use gas to cook. All our hot water comes from the gas boiler, plus heating when required (certainly not now). We have 4 adults and 1 child's worth of laundry to do. My clothes are one wear, because using the wheelchair means I'm usually filthy. My son works in a manual job, lifting and carrying dirty equipment, often outdoors. His clothing is often one wear. His girlfriend works in catering. Ditto the one wear. The child comes home from school/holiday club covered in all sorts of food, paint, muck and all the rest, so again, little wear out of clothes before washing. This means our (A rated) washing machine is on probably 6-8 times a week, possibly 10 times sometimes. And that's with an 8kg drum.

Our fridge and freezer needs to stock enough for 5 people, 4 of them adults.

You have no upstairs, only one level. We have 7 rooms across two floors (all in use), all with very high ceilings. We also have a loft space above, which although insulated will allow some heat loss. This means when we do need heating, there's a lot more space to fill here than at yours.

We are currently (before the new prices) paying £170 for dual fuel and short of stopping washing or something, I can't see how the 5 of us could make our DD as low as yours.

Economies of scale.

That is a lot of stuff going on, as another single occupant you have my sympathies.

You do keep mentioning gas however, my gas is currently 4 times cheaper per unit than my electricity. If your hot water is gas can you try baths? Yeah, water costs too but not that much in comparison. Might help over the course of a whole year. 10 mins in an electric shower at 28p a unit is £120 plus a year (for a low rated electric shower), so potentially that times 5 people is a lot of money.

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We don't have a bath, only an electric shower. I cannot get into a bath anymore and our bathroom is so small that it cannot accommodate a bath and a standalone shower. So the bath was removed so I can go into the shower with minimal obstacle. We didn't go for the shower heated via the gas boiler due to water pressure issues.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"I've joined don't pay uk come Oct DD cancelled just think of all the extra money you paid in summer earning the suppliers millions in interest.... "

I haven't quoted the rest of your post because I didn't want to give it oxygen.

I wouldn't recommend not paying your bill. It won't end well for you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've joined don't pay uk come Oct DD cancelled just think of all the extra money you paid in summer earning the suppliers millions in interest....

I haven't quoted the rest of your post because I didn't want to give it oxygen.

I wouldn't recommend not paying your bill. It won't end well for you "

Problem is that if it really does get that bad - not paying won't be intentional

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"I've joined don't pay uk come Oct DD cancelled just think of all the extra money you paid in summer earning the suppliers millions in interest....

I haven't quoted the rest of your post because I didn't want to give it oxygen.

I wouldn't recommend not paying your bill. It won't end well for you

Problem is that if it really does get that bad - not paying won't be intentional "

For many people it won't but some are planning on not paying as a form of protest.

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By *sernametaken1Man
over a year ago

All over

Just dont pay the cunts and wear a jacket. Fuck em

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Best advice is just to be mindful of what you use. I live in a small flat in a converted victorian house, no insulation at all, no gas, everything is electric, however I'm using about £10 per week currently for everything. Granted, at the mo there's no heating on, but with electric storage heaters running exclusively on cheap rate this will add around £1 per day this winter. All on prepayment as well.

Having said all that, I really don't get why electricity, which, I'm told by my supplier is all from renewable, should increase in price just because the gas price has increased. We should be rioting in the streets if the truth be known, our pockets being plundered by the Tory shareholders of the big energy companies. Only in this country would we put up with it... seems we are all just Lemmings.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are they really?

FWIW personally I'll lump em in with looters - opportunists just looking for an excuse

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By *randMrsDare2BeCouple
over a year ago

Near Northallerton

It is enormously concerning how the energy charges are going to increase over the next 6 months. No really effective advice from government so far. The only thing you can be sure of is that costs will increase; therefore, we all need to reduce our use of gas and electric. Examples of simple but effective savings could be to microwave your cup of tea or coffee - cheaper to run a microwave than a gas job or electric kettle. One thing is for sure, we have to stick together, be frugal and ensure we can continue to survive.

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By *exy4youxxWoman
over a year ago

Pontefract


"I've joined don't pay uk come Oct DD cancelled just think of all the extra money you paid in summer earning the suppliers millions in interest....

I haven't quoted the rest of your post because I didn't want to give it oxygen.

I wouldn't recommend not paying your bill. It won't end well for you

Problem is that if it really does get that bad - not paying won't be intentional

For many people it won't but some are planning on not paying as a form of protest. "

If they don't pay as a form of protest though courts will order a pre payment Meter and trust me that will be far worse just stand your ground get smart metres and refuse hike in dd they can't force it if your paying what covers your bill ... and most of the dd they want are way over the top

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By *elightfulharmonyWoman
over a year ago

Cheshire

It’s all very scary reading these comments I’m waiting to move into a new build house (although 4 months past when they said I would be) so paying rent and splitting bills hasn’t bothered me not looking forward having to shop around for a good gas/elec company to go with

I wouldn’t dream of refusing to pay my bill though would hate to see my credit score effected.

A few helpful hints my mum has shared with me that makes me smile writing this (at nearly 70 she has her head screwed on with money)

Just water related she has a bag of rocks tied in a plastic bag siting in her toilet system why I hear you say…well they weight down the water so it doesn’t fill with as much water each time you flush

She doesn’t leave the tap running when brushing her teeth turn it off till your ready. Trying to get my head around this one for when I do…try it?! It’s bloody hard haha

Another mum share as fan of Martin Lewis he said that on boilers there is a setting which you can turn down the temperatures for hot water and radiators which I’ll surely be doing when I move in.

Sharing what I know. Brought to you by my momma J

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By *lynJMan
over a year ago

Morden


"It’s all very scary reading these comments I’m waiting to move into a new build house (although 4 months past when they said I would be) so paying rent and splitting bills hasn’t bothered me not looking forward having to shop around for a good gas/elec company to go with

I wouldn’t dream of refusing to pay my bill though would hate to see my credit score effected.

A few helpful hints my mum has shared with me that makes me smile writing this (at nearly 70 she has her head screwed on with money)

Just water related she has a bag of rocks tied in a plastic bag siting in her toilet system why I hear you say…well they weight down the water so it doesn’t fill with as much water each time you flush

She doesn’t leave the tap running when brushing her teeth turn it off till your ready. Trying to get my head around this one for when I do…try it?! It’s bloody hard haha

Another mum share as fan of Martin Lewis he said that on boilers there is a setting which you can turn down the temperatures for hot water and radiators which I’ll surely be doing when I move in.

Sharing what I know. Brought to you by my momma J "

I would recommend avoiding Scottish Power. They caused me huge of grief when my partner died and they messed up the account. It took about 2 months to sort out. Loads of promises to phone me but never did.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" I would recommend avoiding Scottish Power. They caused me huge of grief when my partner died and they messed up the account. It took about 2 months to sort out. Loads of promises to phone me but never did. "

I would agree there.. they cancelled my direct debit for no reason, because I work away I didnt know, there was no attempt to contact me which they could have which I would have picked up, the first I knew about it was when I got home. In the end £500 debt, bailiffs letters, after I managed to sort it, there was no apology from them for cancelling the DD and causing me stress.

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By *asycouple1971Couple
over a year ago

midlands

Lets all remember this when it comes time to vote.

Can you imagine how the elderly will live or the ones that have special medical equipment to run to live?

This Govt is happy on killing the poor.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've joined don't pay uk come Oct DD cancelled just think of all the extra money you paid in summer earning the suppliers millions in interest.... I can only see this winter going one way when granny's start freezing to death while 100s of 000s of illegal immigrants are in 4* hotels free food no bills new phones £175 a week spends a VIOLENT AND BRUTAL REVOLUTION WILL HAPPEN

Fuck me, can't wait to leave this country and awful attitudes behind. "

There are times I'm tempted too...it's horrendous.

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By *risxbrisxMan
over a year ago

Bristol

I just have a edf energy top up key and live in a flat and its costing 30 quid a week atm

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By *ortyairCouple
over a year ago

Wallasey

Oh those halcyon days of electricity being generated by coal.

We had about 300 years worth of it before Maggie shut it down just to make a point to the other unions what she would do to them.

Just saying...

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

Just think of all the cheap energy we could have had from nuclear if the Labour party and CND had stfu!

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By *ood time Chris BMan
over a year ago

TAUNTON AREA


"Oh those halcyon days of electricity being generated by coal.

We had about 300 years worth of it before Maggie shut it down just to make a point to the other unions what she would do to them.

It cost 16pounds a tonne more to mine the coal than it could be sold for

Just saying...

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By *d59michelleTV/TS
over a year ago

walsall


"Just think of all the cheap energy we could have had from nuclear if the Labour party and CND had stfu!"
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2008/jul/14/nuclearpower.gordonbrown

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By *oldyoudown41Man
over a year ago

caledonian

Hydrogen

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By *lenderfoxMan
over a year ago

Leeds


"I am trying to work out why 100% renewable electricity has gone up when, as far as I can tell the cost of wind, sun and waves haven't increased. And the standing charge, wtf, that has sweet f all to do with the cost of gas or oil so how can anyone justify doubling it when it was already more than twice what it really should be"

Because the price of energy is pegged to the most expensive cost per unit, which is gas.

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By *itygamesMan
over a year ago

UK

when a hotel has a powercut a generator kicks in , maybe a generator is the way through the hard times.

BBQ cook food in the garden when possible .

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By *reedomBonerMan
over a year ago

London

It’s too late for anyone wanting to “do something” about this we are in the thick of it. This is how the system will incentivise people to the new social credit score system, so when you get your universal credit / free money you will have to do what they say. Eat the bug burger, own nothing and be happy. Unless people rise up and revolt. Which I don’t see happening because everyone’s too busy on Facebook or whatever app is diverting their attention.

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By *lenderfoxMan
over a year ago

Leeds


"when a hotel has a powercut a generator kicks in , maybe a generator is the way through the hard times.

BBQ cook food in the garden when possible ."

Generators are super expensive to operate

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By *ig1gaz1Man
over a year ago

bradford

Ive made a few while things was cheap.

Ive built a rocket stove cooker hob unit so can cook food on it or in it.

Ive also built a gassifier but it does use electric.

Both of these use wood to produce heat and the gas that you can use.

I get alot of wood from the jobs I do.

Ive also built a rocket stove that will heat an area 40ftx20ft.

It uses one log and gives off 4hrs worth of pure heat after preheating and gaining enough hot ashes.

Ive also built a rocket stove boiler but anyone goes down this road, Will need the hot water tanks of old.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"It’s too late for anyone wanting to “do something” about this we are in the thick of it. This is how the system will incentivise people to the new social credit score system, so when you get your universal credit / free money you will have to do what they say. Eat the bug burger, own nothing and be happy. Unless people rise up and revolt. Which I don’t see happening because everyone’s too busy on Facebook or whatever app is diverting their attention. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've done some research this weekend. In order to maintain my current bill I will need to knock 1625 kw usage out per annum. That's not completely feasible so I'm going to have to pay more. But 80% more? No. This will affect people's approach to energy and actually might achieve more overnight than any rants Greta has had.

I'm thinking of having power off days - literally switching off àt the mains for 24 hours every fortnight or week if needs be

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I've done some research this weekend. In order to maintain my current bill I will need to knock 1625 kw usage out per annum. That's not completely feasible so I'm going to have to pay more. But 80% more? No. This will affect people's approach to energy and actually might achieve more overnight than any rants Greta has had.

I'm thinking of having power off days - literally switching off àt the mains for 24 hours every fortnight or week if needs be"

Make sure your fridge/freezer is entirely empty before you do, or your food will spoil.

Btw we're also supposed to get another rise in January.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not sure how true….

But I have read about cancelling DD but not to not pay at all but to pay only what you have used that month. If what you are paying DD is overspend and you can’t wait for the reimbursement then I’m not sure if this is true. But as someone above said don’t not pay at all.

I think in conjunction with this you have to file a complaint …. This somehow takes time to investigate and in the mean time you pay only what you use as oppose to the DD amount

As I said at the start I’m not sure how true this is and if at all it’s a viable method but just something I read

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"I am trying to work out why 100% renewable electricity has gone up when, as far as I can tell the cost of wind, sun and waves haven't increased. And the standing charge, wtf, that has sweet f all to do with the cost of gas or oil so how can anyone justify doubling it when it was already more than twice what it really should be

Because the price of energy is pegged to the most expensive cost per unit, which is gas. "

But gas is cheaper, per unit, than electricity (at the domestic supply level!)

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I am trying to work out why 100% renewable electricity has gone up when, as far as I can tell the cost of wind, sun and waves haven't increased. And the standing charge, wtf, that has sweet f all to do with the cost of gas or oil so how can anyone justify doubling it when it was already more than twice what it really should be

Because the price of energy is pegged to the most expensive cost per unit, which is gas.

But gas is cheaper, per unit, than electricity (at the domestic supply level!) "

I think you're expecting it to be more logical than it is

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"I am trying to work out why 100% renewable electricity has gone up when, as far as I can tell the cost of wind, sun and waves haven't increased. And the standing charge, wtf, that has sweet f all to do with the cost of gas or oil so how can anyone justify doubling it when it was already more than twice what it really should be

Because the price of energy is pegged to the most expensive cost per unit, which is gas.

But gas is cheaper, per unit, than electricity (at the domestic supply level!)

I think you're expecting it to be more logical than it is"

Apologies

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By *lenderfoxMan
over a year ago

Leeds


"I am trying to work out why 100% renewable electricity has gone up when, as far as I can tell the cost of wind, sun and waves haven't increased. And the standing charge, wtf, that has sweet f all to do with the cost of gas or oil so how can anyone justify doubling it when it was already more than twice what it really should be

Because the price of energy is pegged to the most expensive cost per unit, which is gas.

But gas is cheaper, per unit, than electricity (at the domestic supply level!) "

Electricity generated by gas I was referring to, should ha a made thar clearer!

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"I am trying to work out why 100% renewable electricity has gone up when, as far as I can tell the cost of wind, sun and waves haven't increased. And the standing charge, wtf, that has sweet f all to do with the cost of gas or oil so how can anyone justify doubling it when it was already more than twice what it really should be

Because the price of energy is pegged to the most expensive cost per unit, which is gas.

But gas is cheaper, per unit, than electricity (at the domestic supply level!)

Electricity generated by gas I was referring to, should ha a made thar clearer!"

Is gas the dearest fuel to use to generate electricity? I'm asking because I genuinely don't know how it compares to coal, nuclear, solar, wind etc......

Bloomin' laws of thermodynamics, we're just fiddling while Rome* burns**, aren't we

*Other European cities are available

**This saying may be modified, in the event of loss of power

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I am trying to work out why 100% renewable electricity has gone up when, as far as I can tell the cost of wind, sun and waves haven't increased. And the standing charge, wtf, that has sweet f all to do with the cost of gas or oil so how can anyone justify doubling it when it was already more than twice what it really should be

Because the price of energy is pegged to the most expensive cost per unit, which is gas.

But gas is cheaper, per unit, than electricity (at the domestic supply level!)

Electricity generated by gas I was referring to, should ha a made thar clearer!

Is gas the dearest fuel to use to generate electricity? I'm asking because I genuinely don't know how it compares to coal, nuclear, solar, wind etc......

Bloomin' laws of thermodynamics, we're just fiddling while Rome* burns**, aren't we

*Other European cities are available

**This saying may be modified, in the event of loss of power "

Fiddling, or wanking, might be more productive than what the government are doing about it

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By *r bright sideMan
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

I advise you all to ask your provider for a refund I jus got £640 from mine happy days.

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By *ryandseeMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire


"I advise you all to ask your provider for a refund I jus got £640 from mine happy days."

For what exactly? Is that for credit you had built up? If so, yes everyone can do that.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"I advise you all to ask your provider for a refund I jus got £640 from mine happy days.

For what exactly? Is that for credit you had built up? If so, yes everyone can do that. "

Although might be better to roll the credit into the post October period, use that up before having to increase DDs a big amount etc, especially as we'll be going into the season of heavier usage (under normal circumstances). We've left a credit on our account for now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m shitting myself, but not long got my bill for July to August, £18.66

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By *olymalelincsMan
over a year ago

southend


"How are you paying do much . I'm on a variable tariff and pay for what I use.

I live in a 5 bed house and my combined gas and electric bill for August was £77.

This is exactly what I don't understand. People quoting such different figures. I know it will depend on personal circumstances but it seems to very from like you said £77 or similar to hundreads of pounds. I suppose we will all know for sure in October when the bigger bills will start arriving.

I pay as I go, on smart meters. Using less than £5pw on my gas just now... need it for hot water and cooking...

My electric however has now gone up to average of £46 pw now. "

I have a similar situation here there are only two of us and the dogs and we are pay as you go with boost and are paying about £35 a week on the electric at the moment and hardly anything in gas as its just the heating and hot water I dread to think whatbits going to go up to in winter as we will need about the same in gas aswell

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By *ryandseeMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire


"I advise you all to ask your provider for a refund I jus got £640 from mine happy days.

For what exactly? Is that for credit you had built up? If so, yes everyone can do that.

Although might be better to roll the credit into the post October period, use that up before having to increase DDs a big amount etc, especially as we'll be going into the season of heavier usage (under normal circumstances). We've left a credit on our account for now."

Same here, left it all on. They still wanted to raise DD to over £500. They got a little less than a polite reply for now

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By *iger4uWoman
over a year ago

In my happy place


"How are you paying do much . I'm on a variable tariff and pay for what I use.

I live in a 5 bed house and my combined gas and electric bill for August was £77.

This is exactly what I don't understand. People quoting such different figures. I know it will depend on personal circumstances but it seems to very from like you said £77 or similar to hundreads of pounds. I suppose we will all know for sure in October when the bigger bills will start arriving.

I pay as I go, on smart meters. Using less than £5pw on my gas just now... need it for hot water and cooking...

My electric however has now gone up to average of £46 pw now.

I have a similar situation here there are only two of us and the dogs and we are pay as you go with boost and are paying about £35 a week on the electric at the moment and hardly anything in gas as its just the heating and hot water I dread to think whatbits going to go up to in winter as we will need about the same in gas aswell"

My electric is that for a month!

Do you leave switches on?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've done some research this weekend. In order to maintain my current bill I will need to knock 1625 kw usage out per annum. That's not completely feasible so I'm going to have to pay more. But 80% more? No. This will affect people's approach to energy and actually might achieve more overnight than any rants Greta has had.

I'm thinking of having power off days - literally switching off àt the mains for 24 hours every fortnight or week if needs be

Make sure your fridge/freezer is entirely empty before you do, or your food will spoil.

Btw we're also supposed to get another rise in January."

Quite the opposite - ensure that your freezer is completely chocka - it'll stay frozen for 24 hours easily. Supermarkets turn their freezers off every night - did you know that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am trying to work out why 100% renewable electricity has gone up when, as far as I can tell the cost of wind, sun and waves haven't increased. And the standing charge, wtf, that has sweet f all to do with the cost of gas or oil so how can anyone justify doubling it when it was already more than twice what it really should be

Because the price of energy is pegged to the most expensive cost per unit, which is gas.

But gas is cheaper, per unit, than electricity (at the domestic supply level!)

Electricity generated by gas I was referring to, should ha a made thar clearer!

Is gas the dearest fuel to use to generate electricity? I'm asking because I genuinely don't know how it compares to coal, nuclear, solar, wind etc......

Bloomin' laws of thermodynamics, we're just fiddling while Rome* burns**, aren't we

*Other European cities are available

**This saying may be modified, in the event of loss of power "

I was privvy to some data regarding this. Wind power was more expensive than fossil fuel by quite a way and nuclear works out more than that. There are plans afoot to stick modular reactors outside every town in Britain similar to those that power aircraft carriers

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"I advise you all to ask your provider for a refund I jus got £640 from mine happy days.

For what exactly? Is that for credit you had built up? If so, yes everyone can do that.

Although might be better to roll the credit into the post October period, use that up before having to increase DDs a big amount etc, especially as we'll be going into the season of heavier usage (under normal circumstances). We've left a credit on our account for now.

Same here, left it all on. They still wanted to raise DD to over £500. They got a little less than a polite reply for now"

We reduced our DD back down after the April increase, because we built up such a credit. Hoping the big credit will go someway to reducing how much they'll try to put it back up again in October, but we shall see. Got transferred to a new supplier (OVO) because apparently they've taken over SSE?? Allegedly nothing will change (but we've heard that before, right?!)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fight the Power

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By *mp411Man
over a year ago

chester


"I've joined don't pay uk come Oct DD cancelled just think of all the extra money you paid in summer earning the suppliers millions in interest.... I can only see this winter going one way when granny's start freezing to death while 100s of 000s of illegal immigrants are in 4* hotels free food no bills new phones £175 a week spends a VIOLENT AND BRUTAL REVOLUTION WILL HAPPEN

Suppliers are going bust - 29 of them last year. Their customers were taken on by larger suppliers and any profits they had are been used in the scramble to buy energy which is in short supply.

It is the oil and gas producers/refiners that are making the tremendous profits, but you're not going to petrol stations, filling up and driving off, as you don't have the brutal revolutionary big balls for that.

Our cost of living isn't affected by some imaginary 100,000(s) illegal immigrants poshing it up on camp beds under tinfoil. You've made excuse not to pay bills and are passing it onto grannies (who were all once migrants).

"

Are you completely deluded? Just so far this year 50,000+,illegal immigrants in 4*hotels free food, new phones,new clothes,£175 a week spends....

And as for your ludicrous claims that grannies were all migrants once is insane...

The big 6 energy SUPPLIERS raked in over £7 billion pounds in profits

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By *olymalelincsMan
over a year ago

southend


"How are you paying do much . I'm on a variable tariff and pay for what I use.

I live in a 5 bed house and my combined gas and electric bill for August was £77.

This is exactly what I don't understand. People quoting such different figures. I know it will depend on personal circumstances but it seems to very from like you said £77 or similar to hundreads of pounds. I suppose we will all know for sure in October when the bigger bills will start arriving.

I pay as I go, on smart meters. Using less than £5pw on my gas just now... need it for hot water and cooking...

My electric however has now gone up to average of £46 pw now.

I have a similar situation here there are only two of us and the dogs and we are pay as you go with boost and are paying about £35 a week on the electric at the moment and hardly anything in gas as its just the heating and hot water I dread to think whatbits going to go up to in winter as we will need about the same in gas aswell

My electric is that for a month!

Do you leave switches on? "

No I have a disabled mother that I am a full time carer for that requires a seperate fridge just for her medication, charger for power chair so she can get around, powered bath chair that requires charging, extra lights on due to her poor vision, ac on if she is too hot, her pc and tv on most of the time as she doesnt sleep much. And then there is the normal stuff like fridge freezer, chest freezer washing machine etc. I turn off what I can but there is a lot that is always on for my mum

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