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"Your thoughts please? " When is found a new job, yes. Have worked in jobs I haven’t liked, but I like working so found something I did like and then jacked it in. | |||
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"Interview tomorrow for a new job and it’s difficult not to get my hopes up " Good luck Hun! Hope you like them as much as they like you... ! Yeah I was bullied at a role in the past. While tribunal was ongoing, I got another job and just left. My dignity was intact and the employer is always advertising for staff as they can't keep them due to toxic managers. I then became a contractor / interim and love the variety it offers! They say, when things are up in the air, you never know where the pieces would land. Last year, I had a six month placement that paid amazingly well. And it got me the experience and foothold in an industry I now love and have a permanent contract with a terrific team! Never be afraid to walk out on a shit job. A lot has been made of "the great resignation" but I think the Gen Z have principles we can learn from. | |||
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"Wow, so many messages so quickly! I thought I was the only one not enjoying my job! I've got a 3 month notice period which is a double edged sword. Roll on 11am.. In having a 121" Good luck babes. Let us know how you get on... | |||
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"Interview tomorrow for a new job and it’s difficult not to get my hopes up Good luck Hun! Hope you like them as much as they like you... ! Yeah I was bullied at a role in the past. While tribunal was ongoing, I got another job and just left. My dignity was intact and the employer is always advertising for staff as they can't keep them due to toxic managers. I then became a contractor / interim and love the variety it offers! They say, when things are up in the air, you never know where the pieces would land. Last year, I had a six month placement that paid amazingly well. And it got me the experience and foothold in an industry I now love and have a permanent contract with a terrific team! Never be afraid to walk out on a shit job. A lot has been made of "the great resignation" but I think the Gen Z have principles we can learn from." This one will genuinely be a life changer for me so I hope I get it but there’s a line of optimism I don’t want to go past | |||
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"Interview tomorrow for a new job and it’s difficult not to get my hopes up Good luck Hun! Hope you like them as much as they like you... ! Yeah I was bullied at a role in the past. While tribunal was ongoing, I got another job and just left. My dignity was intact and the employer is always advertising for staff as they can't keep them due to toxic managers. I then became a contractor / interim and love the variety it offers! They say, when things are up in the air, you never know where the pieces would land. Last year, I had a six month placement that paid amazingly well. And it got me the experience and foothold in an industry I now love and have a permanent contract with a terrific team! Never be afraid to walk out on a shit job. A lot has been made of "the great resignation" but I think the Gen Z have principles we can learn from. This one will genuinely be a life changer for me so I hope I get it but there’s a line of optimism I don’t want to go past " Authentic passion and enthusiasm is hard to beat at an interview, good employers recruit on potential over experience as you can see from posts above not all experience is good. Focus on why you want the job, what you like about the company, how they inspire you , how you will hit the ground running and overcome any obstacles and skills gaps. Don’t show any hint of dissatisfaction with your current job or company at the interview , ,always talk about them positively , what you have is good , but there’s a win/win opportunity and the interview is for you both to decide if it’s the right move. Good luck | |||
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"Interview tomorrow for a new job and it’s difficult not to get my hopes up " Good luck | |||
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"I’m currently in a job that on a personal level I care nothing for and that most days just drains me of happiness. Professionally I give all I can as I’m paid well to do so and paying clients deserve a great service. If there were a viable alternative, I’d take it in a heartbeat…..but there isn’t. I’ve got approaching on 30 years experience in my sector and nearly 20 years in my specialism. Doing something completely different now would likely mean a 70+% pay cut, which isn’t even remotely possible as I’m the only income earner and have a family to support." I really feel for you. This is a really difficult position to find yourself in. Of course there is the added concern these days that although companies expect total loyalty from their workers they feel there is no need to reciprocate that loyalty and they would think nothing of putting you out of a job if they feel it would benefit the company | |||
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"Interview tomorrow for a new job and it’s difficult not to get my hopes up Good luck" Thank you | |||
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"Your thoughts please? " Wouldn't stay in a job unhappy, nope. As long as there is an alternative to go to, notice handed in. | |||
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"I’m currently in a job that on a personal level I care nothing for and that most days just drains me of happiness. Professionally I give all I can as I’m paid well to do so and paying clients deserve a great service. If there were a viable alternative, I’d take it in a heartbeat…..but there isn’t. I’ve got approaching on 30 years experience in my sector and nearly 20 years in my specialism. Doing something completely different now would likely mean a 70+% pay cut, which isn’t even remotely possible as I’m the only income earner and have a family to support. I really feel for you. This is a really difficult position to find yourself in. Of course there is the added concern these days that although companies expect total loyalty from their workers they feel there is no need to reciprocate that loyalty and they would think nothing of putting you out of a job if they feel it would benefit the company " I’m self-employed which makes it worse…….I have the responsibility of running a limited company on top of the rest. | |||
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"Interview tomorrow for a new job and it’s difficult not to get my hopes up Good luck Hun! Hope you like them as much as they like you... ! Yeah I was bullied at a role in the past. While tribunal was ongoing, I got another job and just left. My dignity was intact and the employer is always advertising for staff as they can't keep them due to toxic managers. I then became a contractor / interim and love the variety it offers! They say, when things are up in the air, you never know where the pieces would land. Last year, I had a six month placement that paid amazingly well. And it got me the experience and foothold in an industry I now love and have a permanent contract with a terrific team! Never be afraid to walk out on a shit job. A lot has been made of "the great resignation" but I think the Gen Z have principles we can learn from. This one will genuinely be a life changer for me so I hope I get it but there’s a line of optimism I don’t want to go past Authentic passion and enthusiasm is hard to beat at an interview, good employers recruit on potential over experience as you can see from posts above not all experience is good. Focus on why you want the job, what you like about the company, how they inspire you , how you will hit the ground running and overcome any obstacles and skills gaps. Don’t show any hint of dissatisfaction with your current job or company at the interview , ,always talk about them positively , what you have is good , but there’s a win/win opportunity and the interview is for you both to decide if it’s the right move. Good luck " I like the do you have any questions section at the end of interviews when I can give them my own interview I’ve 7 questions lined up for them Can you tell me more about the day-to-day responsibilities of the role? How could I impress you in the first three months? Are there opportunities for training and progression within the role/company? Where do you think the company is headed in the next five years? Can you describe the working culture of the organisation? What do you enjoy about your job? Can you tell me more about the team I would be working in? Hopefully I don’t just come across as an asshole | |||
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"Yes Am currently still looking for employment as current employer agrees with bullying and still continues to do so " Wishing you all the best hun. Don't compromise your principles and get out before the toxicity destroys you. They say there is no such thing as a bad job, just bad managers. | |||
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"I’ve 7 questions lined up for them Can you tell me more about the day-to-day responsibilities of the role? How could I impress you in the first three months? Are there opportunities for training and progression within the role/company? Where do you think the company is headed in the next five years? Can you describe the working culture of the organisation? What do you enjoy about your job? Can you tell me more about the team I would be working in? Hopefully I don’t just come across as an asshole " I love this and will keep note of it! I think you'll nail it! Best wishes! | |||
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"Yes Am currently still looking for employment as current employer agrees with bullying and still continues to do so Wishing you all the best hun. Don't compromise your principles and get out before the toxicity destroys you. They say there is no such thing as a bad job, just bad managers." Thank you And no truer word have been spoken Managers have swept it under the carpet like it never happened Blighted my life since 2019 Mitrepeane and setreline ever since and three stays at an institution Think the time has come now to think about me am fifty seven so could take time Will be happier though | |||
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"I’ve 7 questions lined up for them Can you tell me more about the day-to-day responsibilities of the role? How could I impress you in the first three months? Are there opportunities for training and progression within the role/company? Where do you think the company is headed in the next five years? Can you describe the working culture of the organisation? What do you enjoy about your job? Can you tell me more about the team I would be working in? Hopefully I don’t just come across as an asshole I love this and will keep note of it! I think you'll nail it! Best wishes!" Yes, very good questions to show interest in the way the company operates and its future, the oranisational culture and the devopment opportunities available. Add a few references to something you seen or read about them so they know you have done your homework too | |||
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"This new idea that everyone is meant to be perfectly happy in their job is a pipe dream Aim to find a job you love, but be ready to settle for a job you can stand that supports your life style The world we have today was literally built on millions of men working themselves to the bone in jobs they hated so their family could be happy. " Nah, I'll work a job I tolerate while actively searching for a job I love. Then leave the former for the latter when I've got it. Why would I settle for being miserable just because millions of people did it before me? LvM | |||
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"This new idea that everyone is meant to be perfectly happy in their job is a pipe dream Aim to find a job you love, but be ready to settle for a job you can stand that supports your life style The world we have today was literally built on millions of men working themselves to the bone in jobs they hated so their family could be happy. Nah, I'll work a job I tolerate while actively searching for a job I love. Then leave the former for the latter when I've got it. Why would I settle for being miserable just because millions of people did it before me? LvM" I think that attitude is leaving a lot of young people just unemployed. If you find a job you truly love, not “it’s ok”, but actually love, consider yourself one of the lucky few And you know what really sucks? Being unemployed and poor I’ll settle for a job I can stand, with work that makes me proud, and a good wage that lets me live a good life style Out of interest, how long have you been tolerating your current job and how long had the search been for one you love? And will the one you love cover your expenses? | |||
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"I’ve 7 questions lined up for them Can you tell me more about the day-to-day responsibilities of the role? How could I impress you in the first three months? Are there opportunities for training and progression within the role/company? Where do you think the company is headed in the next five years? Can you describe the working culture of the organisation? What do you enjoy about your job? Can you tell me more about the team I would be working in? Hopefully I don’t just come across as an asshole I love this and will keep note of it! I think you'll nail it! Best wishes! Yes, very good questions to show interest in the way the company operates and its future, the oranisational culture and the devopment opportunities available. Add a few references to something you seen or read about them so they know you have done your homework too " I had actually never heard of the position before so I sat for hours watching from a to b of their production process just so I was armed with a little knowledge before going in. Hopefully that makes me stand out | |||
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"Thank you And no truer word have been spoken Managers have swept it under the carpet like it never happened Blighted my life since 2019 Mitrepeane and setreline ever since and three stays at an institution Think the time has come now to think about me am fifty seven so could take time Will be happier though " Oh my word. Sending you big hugs and shed loads of best wishes! | |||
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"Your thoughts please? " Isn’t the best time to leave a job at the moment wether you enjoyed it or not...unless you have another job to go to get....I’m in the same boat I want out of my job too...so taking time to up skill first....there’s some great free online courses available...I’m actively looking though | |||
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"Yes. And it's something I'm currently doing, albeit very slowly, in order to escape the existential toxic culture in my workplace. I don't want to rush it and end up out of the frying pan and into the fire of an equally shitty job." | |||
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"I’ve 7 questions lined up for them Can you tell me more about the day-to-day responsibilities of the role? How could I impress you in the first three months? Are there opportunities for training and progression within the role/company? Where do you think the company is headed in the next five years? Can you describe the working culture of the organisation? What do you enjoy about your job? Can you tell me more about the team I would be working in? Hopefully I don’t just come across as an asshole I love this and will keep note of it! I think you'll nail it! Best wishes! Yes, very good questions to show interest in the way the company operates and its future, the oranisational culture and the devopment opportunities available. Add a few references to something you seen or read about them so they know you have done your homework too I had actually never heard of the position before so I sat for hours watching from a to b of their production process just so I was armed with a little knowledge before going in. Hopefully that makes me stand out " I am sure it will and good luck | |||
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"Thank you And no truer word have been spoken Managers have swept it under the carpet like it never happened Blighted my life since 2019 Mitrepeane and setreline ever since and three stays at an institution Think the time has come now to think about me am fifty seven so could take time Will be happier though Oh my word. Sending you big hugs and shed loads of best wishes!" Many thanks | |||
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"Interview tomorrow for a new job and it’s difficult not to get my hopes up " Good luck tomorrow I’m sure you’ll smash it | |||
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"Out of interest, how long have you been tolerating your current job and how long had the search been for one you love? And will the one you love cover your expenses?" I tolerated three years of my last job, my current one is much better but still not perfect, and yes, the one I'd love would of course cover everything. LvM | |||
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"Wow, so many messages so quickly! I thought I was the only one not enjoying my job! I've got a 3 month notice period which is a double edged sword. Roll on 11am.. In having a 121" My job which I left in 2020 was a 3 month notice period which I think puts a lot of prospective employers off. I was fortunate that the job I went on to do next was happy to wait. I was in that job for a year but my boss then was a gaslighting narcissist. The job I've just left also had a three month notice period but I left 3 months into my 6 month probation period so only had to give 2 weeks notice with them. | |||
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"Update. Had the call, told head of department that I'm serving notice. Her face dropped! I now have 3 months to find something else which is possible. I have been in contract roles which I thoroughly enjoyed and others, like this, which I disliked. Onwards and upwards..." On the plus side, three months is rather a long notice period so you should have plenty of time to explore your options OP LvM | |||
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"Your thoughts please? " Instantly. I wouldn’t even think twice. | |||
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"Yes! Just left a job i wasnt happy in last mouth. For the sake of my sanity. Felt sooo good! Taken a bit of time off to chille and figure out what i really wanna do in life. Been freelancing for a bit and hopefully will be starting a new adventure soon. I was in a privaledged postioin but if you can affored to leave your job and take some time before starting a new one i highly recommend it " Sensible advice if you are I a position to do it as you said. Good luck in your new endeavours | |||
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"Your thoughts please? " Yes, definitely. Life is too short to stay in a job you’re not happy with and best to leave with another job lined up. I did after 28 years for another job in a different industry and now work in a much better environment and benefits. Wished I did it much sooner. | |||
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"Your thoughts please? " I've done it before and I'd do it again. Once you've done it once, it's easier to do again. Good luck OP. | |||
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"It's a ball ache having to shave/wax every week just to dance about, but I guess it pays the bills. One day I'll go straight. " You work at Butlin’s too? | |||
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"3 months notice how long you been there 3000 years " The more senior the role the longer the notice period tend to be. It’s not unheard of for director level roles to have a 3 month notice period! | |||
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"So, I handed in my 3 month notice on 1st September, told them in leaving on October 3rd and I started my new role today! So glad to be out.." Oh you did it Congratulations, hope it works out | |||
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"So, I handed in my 3 month notice on 1st September, told them in leaving on October 3rd and I started my new role today! So glad to be out.." Congratulations, hope the first day went brilliantly! | |||
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"So, I handed in my 3 month notice on 1st September, told them in leaving on October 3rd and I started my new role today! So glad to be out.." Well done! I walked out of a job that was making me miserable about 14 months ago, didn't work my notice period (shoot me, but no job is worth your sanity). I had a new job (same role) within a month, which I love 100% more, feel valued for the skills I bring, and have just had a promotion. Wishing you the best of luck with your new job | |||
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"3 months notice how long you been there 3000 years " It's bog standard in education, at all levels if classroom based at all. Mine is 3 months and has been from the second my (three month) probation was done. | |||
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"Your thoughts please? " Depends on your situation… If I can afford too yes. If I can’t no. But will find things to do outside of that job to make self happy. Or start training for another type of job. | |||
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"Your thoughts please? " Yes and I have done but not before having another job to go to. | |||
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"I wonder if the opportunities are different between the sexes!! And relationship status etc" How would relationship status come into it? Gender shouldn't really come into it anymore, but I'm not naïve enough to think that's true....... | |||
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"Absolutely, but always make sure I have another hob to go to first. I'm always a bit baffled by people who stay in jobs they hate. Nita" Benefits sometimes tie you.. I have several share options i would lose if i left.. I'm also on final salary pension which would be hard to replicate | |||
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"Absolutely, but always make sure I have another hob to go to first. I'm always a bit baffled by people who stay in jobs they hate. Nita Benefits sometimes tie you.. I have several share options i would lose if i left.. I'm also on final salary pension which would be hard to replicate " The final salary pension is such a bad thing in my opinion it stops people moving on above a certain age when often they really need to go and so limits opportunity for younger people. These institutions become quite stale over time, people at the end of teaching careers join them for a pension top up and easy few years on 70-80K knowing they will retire on 40. Plus it’s not really that good is it ? You get max half your final salary for 40 years of service. You can actually beat this in 10 years using salary sacrifice, tax & NI relief and you can have that money at 55 not 65 | |||
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"Absolutely, but always make sure I have another hob to go to first. I'm always a bit baffled by people who stay in jobs they hate. Nita Benefits sometimes tie you.. I have several share options i would lose if i left.. I'm also on final salary pension which would be hard to replicate The final salary pension is such a bad thing in my opinion it stops people moving on above a certain age when often they really need to go and so limits opportunity for younger people. These institutions become quite stale over time, people at the end of teaching careers join them for a pension top up and easy few years on 70-80K knowing they will retire on 40. Plus it’s not really that good is it ? You get max half your final salary for 40 years of service. You can actually beat this in 10 years using salary sacrifice, tax & NI relief and you can have that money at 55 not 65 " Which teachers get £70-80k, even if career teachers? That's SLT money and no-one who wants an easy life becomes a head or deputy head. | |||
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"Absolutely, but always make sure I have another hob to go to first. I'm always a bit baffled by people who stay in jobs they hate. Nita Benefits sometimes tie you.. I have several share options i would lose if i left.. I'm also on final salary pension which would be hard to replicate The final salary pension is such a bad thing in my opinion it stops people moving on above a certain age when often they really need to go and so limits opportunity for younger people. These institutions become quite stale over time, people at the end of teaching careers join them for a pension top up and easy few years on 70-80K knowing they will retire on 40. Plus it’s not really that good is it ? You get max half your final salary for 40 years of service. You can actually beat this in 10 years using salary sacrifice, tax & NI relief and you can have that money at 55 not 65 Which teachers get £70-80k, even if career teachers? That's SLT money and no-one who wants an easy life becomes a head or deputy head. " They retire from head of year on around 50-60, heads earn much more ,often in excess of 100. Then they jobs as CEO of educational charity, exam bodies on 70-80, often more , City & Guilds, AQA etc pay well into 6 figures , | |||
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"Absolutely, but always make sure I have another hob to go to first. I'm always a bit baffled by people who stay in jobs they hate. Nita Benefits sometimes tie you.. I have several share options i would lose if i left.. I'm also on final salary pension which would be hard to replicate The final salary pension is such a bad thing in my opinion it stops people moving on above a certain age when often they really need to go and so limits opportunity for younger people. These institutions become quite stale over time, people at the end of teaching careers join them for a pension top up and easy few years on 70-80K knowing they will retire on 40. Plus it’s not really that good is it ? You get max half your final salary for 40 years of service. You can actually beat this in 10 years using salary sacrifice, tax & NI relief and you can have that money at 55 not 65 Which teachers get £70-80k, even if career teachers? That's SLT money and no-one who wants an easy life becomes a head or deputy head. They retire from head of year on around 50-60, heads earn much more ,often in excess of 100. Then they jobs as CEO of educational charity, exam bodies on 70-80, often more , City & Guilds, AQA etc pay well into 6 figures , " Even classroom teachers who are Heads of department or HoY will struggle to ever earn anywhere near £70-80k. Only senior leadership roles get near that. It's executive heads in academies (of multiple schools) earning the stupid money. On the leadership scale (outside London), the range is from £47,735 min to £117,197 absolute max. Very, very few Heads are on that. The upper pay scale is max £41,604 (outside London). | |||
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