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"As someone has just made a thread about "overseas". Pack up, turn everything off, hike yourself to a hot country for 6 months, get a bar job, come back when it's warmer. " You will still be paying most of your energy bills as much of it us on the daily charge unless you decide to disconnect | |||
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"As someone has just made a thread about "overseas". Pack up, turn everything off, hike yourself to a hot country for 6 months, get a bar job, come back when it's warmer. You will still be paying most of your energy bills as much of it us on the daily charge unless you decide to disconnect" The standing charge isn't most of the bill, it's a fraction of the total | |||
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"As someone has just made a thread about "overseas". Pack up, turn everything off, hike yourself to a hot country for 6 months, get a bar job, come back when it's warmer. " That rules out eu countries then | |||
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"As someone has just made a thread about "overseas". Pack up, turn everything off, hike yourself to a hot country for 6 months, get a bar job, come back when it's warmer. You will still be paying most of your energy bills as much of it us on the daily charge unless you decide to disconnect The standing charge isn't most of the bill, it's a fraction of the total" I have just come back from 2 and bit weeks away, my standing charge was 22% of my daily usage when away. Average bill of £1.91 a day with just fridge freezer, fish tank and lights when neighbours popped over to feed fish. | |||
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"As someone has just made a thread about "overseas". Pack up, turn everything off, hike yourself to a hot country for 6 months, get a bar job, come back when it's warmer. You will still be paying most of your energy bills as much of it us on the daily charge unless you decide to disconnect The standing charge isn't most of the bill, it's a fraction of the total I have just come back from 2 and bit weeks away, my standing charge was 22% of my daily usage when away. Average bill of £1.91 a day with just fridge freezer, fish tank and lights when neighbours popped over to feed fish. " Your bill's over £60 a week? | |||
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"I’ve been growing my own fruit n veg this year… Hard work but had some great tasting fruit and fantastic veg so far. Planting winter veg now. Better tasting than supermarket veg and cheaper on the pocket. I also forage too. " What are you planting for winter? | |||
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"I’ve been growing my own fruit n veg this year… Hard work but had some great tasting fruit and fantastic veg so far. Planting winter veg now. Better tasting than supermarket veg and cheaper on the pocket. I also forage too. What are you planting for winter? " Just potatoes at the moment but will have another think when summer crop is fully finished. | |||
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"I’m just going to continue as normal, it can only last for so long right? As long as I’ve got food, heating and a full tank of fuel then those tories can go f**k them selves with a diseased bull! " Ah the old "fuck the tories" drivel. Because looney left wing policies from labour would save the world , have a day off. | |||
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"Wear 2 jumpers " Won't your legs get cold? | |||
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"I've disconnected the light in the fridge...every little helps...." This made me laugh | |||
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"Fortunate to live alone in a house that is very well insulated, past two winters I haven't put on my heating at all, hoping for a hattrick but appreciate I am very lucky. I did make the mistake of running a large salt water fish tank for the last 2 years. Costing me about £1.20 a day at the monent. Might have to rethink when it gets colder. " A fair few fish dinners for you as the weather gets colder? | |||
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"I've disconnected the light in the fridge...every little helps...." maybe you've just reversed when it turns on... And will never know ... | |||
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"Wear 2 jumpers Won't your legs get cold? " Not if they are in the sleeves of one jumper | |||
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"Clear your house out of any old clothes - sell on Vinted or take to cash for clothes, to help boost money coming in." Or wear them in layers to stay warm! | |||
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"I think i'm just going to have more sex. More socials, the guy pays right? I'm very old fashioned that way. " The guy should always pay. It is old fashioned but those qualities should stay. Probably weird thinking that though right? | |||
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"So just read this in the guardian Using a microwave saves you the most money, slow cookers/air fryers are the second best saving you can make. Then it's things like large batch cooking and freezing, not over filling your kettle and using a lid so simmering not boiling. Savings could potentially be around £600 if all were done across the year and appliances were energy efficient. I don't know the outlay for slow cookers/air fryers but that could affect the overall £600ish. https://www.theguardian.com/money/2022/aug/27/best-ingredients-and-appliances-to-save-cash-when-cooking" Another kettle tip is to refill it with cold water from tap or filter jug immediately after use. Then the water will be at ambient room temperature for the next boil. Reaching 100C from 20C instead of 5C is a lot of energy over a year. | |||
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"Just received my bill for gas and electric for the month. Only £77. I must be doing something right. " Excellent! How much will it be in January do you reckon? | |||
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"I think i'm just going to have more sex. More socials, the guy pays right? I'm very old fashioned that way. " Great idea | |||
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"Fortunate to live alone in a house that is very well insulated, past two winters I haven't put on my heating at all, hoping for a hattrick but appreciate I am very lucky. I did make the mistake of running a large salt water fish tank for the last 2 years. Costing me about £1.20 a day at the monent. Might have to rethink when it gets colder. " Eat the fish | |||
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"Just spent the last month with the AC on every day, full electric apartment, stove, oven, water boiler, Microwave, kettle, lights, extraction fan, the usual. We paid £1.18 per day " That's a great money saving tip | |||
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"I just saw a graph from the Joseph Rowntree foundation, based on projected energy costs. By 2023/4, energy costs could be as high as 120% of income after housing. We're not boot strapping our way out of this one." So after housing energy will cost more than the money we have left? | |||
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"I just saw a graph from the Joseph Rowntree foundation, based on projected energy costs. By 2023/4, energy costs could be as high as 120% of income after housing. We're not boot strapping our way out of this one. So after housing energy will cost more than the money we have left?" The best projection (by demographic) is 35%, remembering that over 10% is fuel poverty. The worst projection is 120% | |||
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"I just saw a graph from the Joseph Rowntree foundation, based on projected energy costs. By 2023/4, energy costs could be as high as 120% of income after housing. We're not boot strapping our way out of this one. So after housing energy will cost more than the money we have left? The best projection (by demographic) is 35%, remembering that over 10% is fuel poverty. The worst projection is 120% " And yes. 120% means that if your income after housing is £5, your bill will be £6 | |||
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"I just saw a graph from the Joseph Rowntree foundation, based on projected energy costs. By 2023/4, energy costs could be as high as 120% of income after housing. We're not boot strapping our way out of this one. So after housing energy will cost more than the money we have left? The best projection (by demographic) is 35%, remembering that over 10% is fuel poverty. The worst projection is 120% And yes. 120% means that if your income after housing is £5, your bill will be £6" What if you have £2000 a month after house your bill will be 2400? Don't make sense to me | |||
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"I just saw a graph from the Joseph Rowntree foundation, based on projected energy costs. By 2023/4, energy costs could be as high as 120% of income after housing. We're not boot strapping our way out of this one. So after housing energy will cost more than the money we have left? The best projection (by demographic) is 35%, remembering that over 10% is fuel poverty. The worst projection is 120% " So the technical term would be we're royally fucked? | |||
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"I just saw a graph from the Joseph Rowntree foundation, based on projected energy costs. By 2023/4, energy costs could be as high as 120% of income after housing. We're not boot strapping our way out of this one. So after housing energy will cost more than the money we have left? The best projection (by demographic) is 35%, remembering that over 10% is fuel poverty. The worst projection is 120% And yes. 120% means that if your income after housing is £5, your bill will be £6" Yeah. I get a bit with percentages expressed over 100% | |||
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"Switch to coal, has to be way cheaper " Especially if you don't have a fireplace | |||
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"I just saw a graph from the Joseph Rowntree foundation, based on projected energy costs. By 2023/4, energy costs could be as high as 120% of income after housing. We're not boot strapping our way out of this one. So after housing energy will cost more than the money we have left? The best projection (by demographic) is 35%, remembering that over 10% is fuel poverty. The worst projection is 120% And yes. 120% means that if your income after housing is £5, your bill will be £6 What if you have £2000 a month after house your bill will be 2400? Don't make sense to me" Yes, that's the prediction. Royally fucked is probably, as said above, the technical term. | |||
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"You can save money in a lot of ways. Don't drive if you can walk, use Aldi and Lidl if they're close enough, follow all the tips about electrical devices and not boiling too much water in the kettle, wearing extra layers, turn the thermostat down etc etc but long term constantly thinking about how much doing mundane things like making a cup of coffee is costing you or working out of its cheaper to cook your dinner in the oven or the slow cooker is soul destroying. None of what's been suggested will make a significant difference to people who were living at the edge of their income. The current narrative from the powers that be seems to be is that it doesn't matter if the plebs are hungry and cold, they should have worked harder and they can always use food banks funded by the other plebs." The narrative does seem to be exactly that at the moment. Sadly there are quite a few that subscribe to it, even on here from the odd comment here and there that I have seen. It seems that dome people think that if you are struggling it's entirely your own fault. I rather be compassionate and recognise there are people less fortunate who really struggle already and before the worst that is to come and someone has to listen to them and us before it is too late for some. Here living in hope | |||
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"You can save money in a lot of ways. Don't drive if you can walk, use Aldi and Lidl if they're close enough, follow all the tips about electrical devices and not boiling too much water in the kettle, wearing extra layers, turn the thermostat down etc etc but long term constantly thinking about how much doing mundane things like making a cup of coffee is costing you or working out of its cheaper to cook your dinner in the oven or the slow cooker is soul destroying. None of what's been suggested will make a significant difference to people who were living at the edge of their income. The current narrative from the powers that be seems to be is that it doesn't matter if the plebs are hungry and cold, they should have worked harder and they can always use food banks funded by the other plebs. The narrative does seem to be exactly that at the moment. Sadly there are quite a few that subscribe to it, even on here from the odd comment here and there that I have seen. It seems that dome people think that if you are struggling it's entirely your own fault. I rather be compassionate and recognise there are people less fortunate who really struggle already and before the worst that is to come and someone has to listen to them and us before it is too late for some. Here living in hope " Zahawi specifically, suggesting we use less energy, has used parliamentary expenses to fund heating his stables. They think this is funny. | |||
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"You can save money in a lot of ways. Don't drive if you can walk, use Aldi and Lidl if they're close enough, follow all the tips about electrical devices and not boiling too much water in the kettle, wearing extra layers, turn the thermostat down etc etc but long term constantly thinking about how much doing mundane things like making a cup of coffee is costing you or working out of its cheaper to cook your dinner in the oven or the slow cooker is soul destroying. None of what's been suggested will make a significant difference to people who were living at the edge of their income. The current narrative from the powers that be seems to be is that it doesn't matter if the plebs are hungry and cold, they should have worked harder and they can always use food banks funded by the other plebs. The narrative does seem to be exactly that at the moment. Sadly there are quite a few that subscribe to it, even on here from the odd comment here and there that I have seen. It seems that dome people think that if you are struggling it's entirely your own fault. I rather be compassionate and recognise there are people less fortunate who really struggle already and before the worst that is to come and someone has to listen to them and us before it is too late for some. Here living in hope Zahawi specifically, suggesting we use less energy, has used parliamentary expenses to fund heating his stables. They think this is funny." We'll help is 'in the pipeline ' apparently. It's always jam tomorrow. Meanwhile we're all buying bobble hats and waiting with outstretched hands for our benefactors. I hope we're all suitably grateful | |||
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"You can save money in a lot of ways. Don't drive if you can walk, use Aldi and Lidl if they're close enough, follow all the tips about electrical devices and not boiling too much water in the kettle, wearing extra layers, turn the thermostat down etc etc but long term constantly thinking about how much doing mundane things like making a cup of coffee is costing you or working out of its cheaper to cook your dinner in the oven or the slow cooker is soul destroying. None of what's been suggested will make a significant difference to people who were living at the edge of their income. The current narrative from the powers that be seems to be is that it doesn't matter if the plebs are hungry and cold, they should have worked harder and they can always use food banks funded by the other plebs. The narrative does seem to be exactly that at the moment. Sadly there are quite a few that subscribe to it, even on here from the odd comment here and there that I have seen. It seems that dome people think that if you are struggling it's entirely your own fault. I rather be compassionate and recognise there are people less fortunate who really struggle already and before the worst that is to come and someone has to listen to them and us before it is too late for some. Here living in hope Zahawi specifically, suggesting we use less energy, has used parliamentary expenses to fund heating his stables. They think this is funny. We'll help is 'in the pipeline ' apparently. It's always jam tomorrow. Meanwhile we're all buying bobble hats and waiting with outstretched hands for our benefactors. I hope we're all suitably grateful " "Please sir, I want some more" | |||
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"Don't use your cards to pay for things, just draw a set amount of cash each week and stick to it. You'll be surprised how much less you spend when you actually have to hand physical cash over to pay for it. " You are right and although it will not solve the issue every little bit helps of course. It will also help to ensure that the obsurd idea that we should do totally away with cash remains just that. | |||
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"Don't buy shit you don't need. Simples Your welcome" That ain't gonna solve it for a great many people | |||
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"Don't buy shit you don't need. Simples Your welcome That ain't gonna solve it for a great many people " | |||
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"You can save money in a lot of ways. Don't drive if you can walk, use Aldi and Lidl if they're close enough, follow all the tips about electrical devices and not boiling too much water in the kettle, wearing extra layers, turn the thermostat down etc etc but long term constantly thinking about how much doing mundane things like making a cup of coffee is costing you or working out of its cheaper to cook your dinner in the oven or the slow cooker is soul destroying. None of what's been suggested will make a significant difference to people who were living at the edge of their income. The current narrative from the powers that be seems to be is that it doesn't matter if the plebs are hungry and cold, they should have worked harder and they can always use food banks funded by the other plebs. The narrative does seem to be exactly that at the moment. Sadly there are quite a few that subscribe to it, even on here from the odd comment here and there that I have seen. It seems that dome people think that if you are struggling it's entirely your own fault. I rather be compassionate and recognise there are people less fortunate who really struggle already and before the worst that is to come and someone has to listen to them and us before it is too late for some. Here living in hope Zahawi specifically, suggesting we use less energy, has used parliamentary expenses to fund heating his stables. They think this is funny." I hope to hell he is replaced as Chancellor next month. | |||
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"Don't buy shit you don't need. Simples Your welcome That ain't gonna solve it for a great many people " It will if they don't need food or shoes for their kids | |||
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"Don't buy shit you don't need. Simples Your welcome That ain't gonna solve it for a great many people It will if they don't need food or shoes for their kids " If housing plus electricity is over 100% of income, let's hope no one needs to eat. Or use/drink water. Or travel anywhere. | |||
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"You can save money in a lot of ways. Don't drive if you can walk, use Aldi and Lidl if they're close enough, follow all the tips about electrical devices and not boiling too much water in the kettle, wearing extra layers, turn the thermostat down etc etc but long term constantly thinking about how much doing mundane things like making a cup of coffee is costing you or working out of its cheaper to cook your dinner in the oven or the slow cooker is soul destroying. None of what's been suggested will make a significant difference to people who were living at the edge of their income. The current narrative from the powers that be seems to be is that it doesn't matter if the plebs are hungry and cold, they should have worked harder and they can always use food banks funded by the other plebs. The narrative does seem to be exactly that at the moment. Sadly there are quite a few that subscribe to it, even on here from the odd comment here and there that I have seen. It seems that dome people think that if you are struggling it's entirely your own fault. I rather be compassionate and recognise there are people less fortunate who really struggle already and before the worst that is to come and someone has to listen to them and us before it is too late for some. Here living in hope Zahawi specifically, suggesting we use less energy, has used parliamentary expenses to fund heating his stables. They think this is funny. I hope to hell he is replaced as Chancellor next month. " I fear the problem is more systemic than that. Let the bodies pile high. | |||
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"Don't buy shit you don't need. Simples Your welcome That ain't gonna solve it for a great many people It will if they don't need food or shoes for their kids " I'm dreading going shoe shopping this week. If I buy cheap they don't last a term. | |||
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"You can save money in a lot of ways. Don't drive if you can walk, use Aldi and Lidl if they're close enough, follow all the tips about electrical devices and not boiling too much water in the kettle, wearing extra layers, turn the thermostat down etc etc but long term constantly thinking about how much doing mundane things like making a cup of coffee is costing you or working out of its cheaper to cook your dinner in the oven or the slow cooker is soul destroying. None of what's been suggested will make a significant difference to people who were living at the edge of their income. The current narrative from the powers that be seems to be is that it doesn't matter if the plebs are hungry and cold, they should have worked harder and they can always use food banks funded by the other plebs. The narrative does seem to be exactly that at the moment. Sadly there are quite a few that subscribe to it, even on here from the odd comment here and there that I have seen. It seems that dome people think that if you are struggling it's entirely your own fault. I rather be compassionate and recognise there are people less fortunate who really struggle already and before the worst that is to come and someone has to listen to them and us before it is too late for some. Here living in hope Zahawi specifically, suggesting we use less energy, has used parliamentary expenses to fund heating his stables. They think this is funny. I hope to hell he is replaced as Chancellor next month. I fear the problem is more systemic than that. Let the bodies pile high." I know. But starting the winter with a man in charge of the economics who thinks we should all use less energy? It's bloody galling. | |||
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"You can save money in a lot of ways. Don't drive if you can walk, use Aldi and Lidl if they're close enough, follow all the tips about electrical devices and not boiling too much water in the kettle, wearing extra layers, turn the thermostat down etc etc but long term constantly thinking about how much doing mundane things like making a cup of coffee is costing you or working out of its cheaper to cook your dinner in the oven or the slow cooker is soul destroying. None of what's been suggested will make a significant difference to people who were living at the edge of their income. The current narrative from the powers that be seems to be is that it doesn't matter if the plebs are hungry and cold, they should have worked harder and they can always use food banks funded by the other plebs. The narrative does seem to be exactly that at the moment. Sadly there are quite a few that subscribe to it, even on here from the odd comment here and there that I have seen. It seems that dome people think that if you are struggling it's entirely your own fault. I rather be compassionate and recognise there are people less fortunate who really struggle already and before the worst that is to come and someone has to listen to them and us before it is too late for some. Here living in hope Zahawi specifically, suggesting we use less energy, has used parliamentary expenses to fund heating his stables. They think this is funny. I hope to hell he is replaced as Chancellor next month. I fear the problem is more systemic than that. Let the bodies pile high. I know. But starting the winter with a man in charge of the economics who thinks we should all use less energy? It's bloody galling. " It is. I wish I knew what the answer was. I can't imagine it will be pretty. | |||
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"Don't buy shit you don't need. Simples Your welcome That ain't gonna solve it for a great many people It will if they don't need food or shoes for their kids I'm dreading going shoe shopping this week. If I buy cheap they don't last a term. " I'm out of touch with the cost of children's shoes. I know they weren't cheap when our kids were small | |||
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"Don't buy shit you don't need. Simples Your welcome That ain't gonna solve it for a great many people It will if they don't need food or shoes for their kids I'm dreading going shoe shopping this week. If I buy cheap they don't last a term. I'm out of touch with the cost of children's shoes. I know they weren't cheap when our kids were small " Clark's are £50-£60 | |||
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"Don't buy shit you don't need. Simples Your welcome That ain't gonna solve it for a great many people It will if they don't need food or shoes for their kids I'm dreading going shoe shopping this week. If I buy cheap they don't last a term. I'm out of touch with the cost of children's shoes. I know they weren't cheap when our kids were small Clark's are £50-£60" That's a lot! | |||
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"Don't buy shit you don't need. Simples Your welcome That ain't gonna solve it for a great many people It will if they don't need food or shoes for their kids I'm dreading going shoe shopping this week. If I buy cheap they don't last a term. I'm out of touch with the cost of children's shoes. I know they weren't cheap when our kids were small Clark's are £50-£60 That's a lot! " I don't spend that on my own shoes... | |||
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"Switch to coal, has to be way cheaper Especially if you don't have a fireplace " I do have a fireplace & can get hold of waste wood, I will have to get busy with the chainsaw before winter ! | |||
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"Don't buy shit you don't need. Simples Your welcome That ain't gonna solve it for a great many people It will if they don't need food or shoes for their kids I'm dreading going shoe shopping this week. If I buy cheap they don't last a term. I'm out of touch with the cost of children's shoes. I know they weren't cheap when our kids were small Clark's are £50-£60 That's a lot! I don't spend that on my own shoes..." Last week school shoes, pe trainers, football boots and uniform for 2 high school kids cost me over £300. I just hope they don't have a growth spurt any time soon. | |||
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"Don't buy shit you don't need. Simples Your welcome That ain't gonna solve it for a great many people It will if they don't need food or shoes for their kids I'm dreading going shoe shopping this week. If I buy cheap they don't last a term. I'm out of touch with the cost of children's shoes. I know they weren't cheap when our kids were small Clark's are £50-£60 That's a lot! I don't spend that on my own shoes... Last week school shoes, pe trainers, football boots and uniform for 2 high school kids cost me over £300. I just hope they don't have a growth spurt any time soon." I can't afford more than one pair of shoes for each atm. I'm hoping their uniform will last a bit longer - well it needs to. Shocking costs. | |||
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"You can double the lifespan of a pair of shoes simply by only wearing 1 and hoping everywhere " I'm not convinced. Hopping would put far more weight on one shoe so it would wear out faster than if you were walking in two shoes | |||
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"You can double the lifespan of a pair of shoes simply by only wearing 1 and hoping everywhere " Get a wheelchair. Your shoes get literally infinite life | |||
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"Switch to coal, has to be way cheaper Especially if you don't have a fireplace " Dig a hole in the floor. It worked for the Vikings | |||
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"Switch to coal, has to be way cheaper Especially if you don't have a fireplace Dig a hole in the floor. It worked for the Vikings " We've genuinely considered getting a fire pit and sitting in the garden in the evenings. Will I have to wear a horned helmet. Ps I know Vikings didn't wear them but humour me | |||
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" We've genuinely considered getting a fire pit and sitting in the garden in the evenings. " Save money on central heating by setting fire to £10 notes in the living room | |||
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