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"I go to all my cervical screening and mammogram appointments, and urge my children to go too. " | |||
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"Interesting,l am often tardy when it comes to following up medical matters often with that feeling of ‘l shouldn’t bother the doctor with this they are so busy’ .But my cervical smear appointment is some l do promptly.l think we are so lucky in this county to be offered free such an important service ,l really appreciate it ." • That's a good point. 'We' should indeed use this wonderful service. Having read all the responses on here it's obviously not an easy thing to do. But I appreciate the open and honest replies. | |||
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"I’m shocked and saddened to see so many women falling for the myth that many women avoid due to mere “embarrassment” or “discomfort” For some women, more than a small minority in fact they are painful, traumatising and poorly performed. I have endo, they are extremely painful for me particularly if performed by someone who simply thinks I’m a wimp and their desire to get it done quickly overrides my need for it to be done with as little pain as possible. I also usually bleed as I have a fragile cervix which some of them blame me for as if I have any control over this. Add in that for some women who have experienced abuse or assault this can be mentally traumatic and it’s a perfect storm of horrifying for some women. In addition I am also reading posts about cancer cells being detected - are you even aware that they don’t even check cells unless hpv has been detected? Many women don’t even need a smear done, a simple swab test for hpv and IF hpv is found then a smear test conducted is what should be happening. Instead women are pressured into and subjected to a test procedure that isn’t even analysed on most occasions. I’ll admit I’ve only learned this since my own last smear and I plan next time I get the letter to contact my dr and instead simply get a hpv swab test and only get a smear test if I’m positive for hpv - which thus far I never have been. Ladies please don’t push other ladies on this, we all have reasons why we hate them and some of those reasons we may not wish or be able to share, a little thought and consideration. " You make a very good point. I think most of us understand that some women have very valid reasons to be reluctant. | |||
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"I’m shocked and saddened to see so many women falling for the myth that many women avoid due to mere “embarrassment” or “discomfort” For some women, more than a small minority in fact they are painful, traumatising and poorly performed. I have endo, they are extremely painful for me particularly if performed by someone who simply thinks I’m a wimp and their desire to get it done quickly overrides my need for it to be done with as little pain as possible. I also usually bleed as I have a fragile cervix which some of them blame me for as if I have any control over this. Add in that for some women who have experienced abuse or assault this can be mentally traumatic and it’s a perfect storm of horrifying for some women. In addition I am also reading posts about cancer cells being detected - are you even aware that they don’t even check cells unless hpv has been detected? Many women don’t even need a smear done, a simple swab test for hpv and IF hpv is found then a smear test conducted is what should be happening. Instead women are pressured into and subjected to a test procedure that isn’t even analysed on most occasions. I’ll admit I’ve only learned this since my own last smear and I plan next time I get the letter to contact my dr and instead simply get a hpv swab test and only get a smear test if I’m positive for hpv - which thus far I never have been. Ladies please don’t push other ladies on this, we all have reasons why we hate them and some of those reasons we may not wish or be able to share, a little thought and consideration. " I have lost a friend to breast cancer and a friend to cervical cancer, as well as having a scare myself 15 years ago. I will continue to push (or more remind) until the day I die if there’s a chance it could save that. | |||
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"It's uncomfortable, embarrassing and stressful. Most women put it off I think, that's certainly the consensus between my friends and I. I know that as we've aged we've all gotten better at booking in when the reminder comes. I'm not sure if that's just because of age or because there's a lot more media coverage and encouragement these days. " this | |||
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"I'm worried and accept people may have been put off by an examination but I recommend you bypass your quack if your nervous and go to a sexual health clinic where you can ask for female only staff. If your worried, upset, been mis handled or left disgusted by an examination, the clinics are your best option. Considerate and discreet. Even the staff. They've seen everything but please go. They probably haven't seen too many double vaginas but baggy saggy gaping warty and the smelly vaginas they have. " Female staff aren't necessarily any more understanding than male, though I understand if people have anxieties relating to sexual assault etc. I've only ever had female staff do my smears and it's been extremely uncomfortable, they've struggled to locate my cervix and it's been a right faff. We get there in the end, though. | |||
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"Now I am at an age they don't send me letters. It must be okay for those my age to develop cancer and die. " Its only women between the ages of 25 and 64 You'll usually stop being invited for screening once you turn 65. This is because it's very unlikely that you'll get cervical cancer. If you have symptoms or a family history or you have had abnormal results in the past you can still request a test. | |||
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"Now I am at an age they don't send me letters. It must be okay for those my age to develop cancer and die. " | |||
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"Now I am at an age they don't send me letters. It must be okay for those my age to develop cancer and die. " Same Please see thread about how to cope with aging population... | |||
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"Two people two outcomes. First lady, gets invite for mammogram, ignores it, finds out later, much later, stage 3 breast cancer. She's dead now, it wasn't a nice death as they go. Second lady, gets invite, goes for screening and she's got the spiders showing from the cancer. 3 weeks in for op, thank you NHS, all gone and now going for radiotherapy to reduce the chance of it recurring down to 5%. Hormone tablets now, life long protection and a healthy outcome. DON'T WAIT! Book your appointment, save your life, save your loved ones the pain and agony of a slow and certain death. " This really is unnecessary scare mongering. Well meant i'm sure but harmful speculation in any case. | |||
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"I always attend when due for cervical screening, it's a little uncomfortable and also the embarrassment but has to be done. Imagine if you guys had to visit the Doctors for a Prostrate examination regular..how many would attend regular or at all? It would be more uncomfortable if a Speculum was inserted so that they can see the walls of the rectum and look at the Prostrate " Ha ha ha, not anymore! Hell nowadays, most men develop prostrate cancer but it remains inactive. Only if you start having the physical symptoms first will testing go forwards. Finger in the bum no longer needed because you know best if your water works are normal or starting to have weird days. Used to get cock lock when younger holding a piss, now if you wake up with cock lock, or reduced flow, take notes, keep track and if you see a pattern, then to the quacks. Otherwise its normal for your prostrate to enlarge a bit and then relax. | |||
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"I always attend when due for cervical screening, it's a little uncomfortable and also the embarrassment but has to be done. Imagine if you guys had to visit the Doctors for a Prostrate examination regular..how many would attend regular or at all? It would be more uncomfortable if a Speculum was inserted so that they can see the walls of the rectum and look at the Prostrate Ha ha ha, not anymore! Hell nowadays, most men develop prostrate cancer but it remains inactive. Only if you start having the physical symptoms first will testing go forwards. Finger in the bum no longer needed because you know best if your water works are normal or starting to have weird days. Used to get cock lock when younger holding a piss, now if you wake up with cock lock, or reduced flow, take notes, keep track and if you see a pattern, then to the quacks. Otherwise its normal for your prostrate to enlarge a bit and then relax. " So no more finger up the ass for you guys then? God damn you guys have it easy hahaha!! | |||
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"I well overdue. But it's logistics, either I have to ring the surgery and spend ages on hold or I've actually managed to make an appointment and my period has starred (they're not regular). I wish they had a drop in centre with like a ticket machine it would be so much easier. " This is part of the issue especially since COVID with my GP Often calling for appt means being on hold for 20 or 30 mins. That isn't easy at my work I'm also undergoing lots of other medical tests and feel bad about the time I have off. But I do get it done | |||
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"Not an issue for me but yes this is very common. I'm that annoying friend who posts regularly to remind people to go. " One day, one will thank you that you did. | |||
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"Just to add, I'm not trying to scare-monger anyone into doing anything. Your body...your choice. I was merely highlighting that cervical cancer can be diagnosed in different ways. And it's great that the OP created this thread, because I find the media are the ones who do a lot more scare-mongering than anyone here x " It's not quite sure why you are talking about scaremongering? Who's scaremongering when it comes to smear tests? I haven't seen the media do anything of the sort other than encourage women to go to their appointments. | |||
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" It's not quite sure why you are talking about scaremongering? Who's scaremongering when it comes to smear tests? I haven't seen the media do anything of the sort other than encourage women to go to their appointments. " There was a comment further up the thread encouraging us to go for our smears, which was then responded to by someone saying it was "unnecessary scaremongering!" As for the media scaremongering...it was a personal opinion (we are allowed to have them on here, right?) I have been witness to it in the past. But, then, just like opinions, we all have different experiences in life, don't we! | |||
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" It's not quite sure why you are talking about scaremongering? Who's scaremongering when it comes to smear tests? I haven't seen the media do anything of the sort other than encourage women to go to their appointments. There was a comment further up the thread encouraging us to go for our smears, which was then responded to by someone saying it was "unnecessary scaremongering!" As for the media scaremongering...it was a personal opinion (we are allowed to have them on here, right?) I have been witness to it in the past. But, then, just like opinions, we all have different experiences in life, don't we! " But it isn't an opinion to state the media are scare mungering without any facts to back it up. I just don't think comments like yours are very helpful but like you said I'm allowed by opinion right! | |||
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" It's not quite sure why you are talking about scaremongering? Who's scaremongering when it comes to smear tests? I haven't seen the media do anything of the sort other than encourage women to go to their appointments. There was a comment further up the thread encouraging us to go for our smears, which was then responded to by someone saying it was "unnecessary scaremongering!" As for the media scaremongering...it was a personal opinion (we are allowed to have them on here, right?) I have been witness to it in the past. But, then, just like opinions, we all have different experiences in life, don't we! But it isn't an opinion to state the media are scare mungering without any facts to back it up. I just don't think comments like yours are very helpful but like you said I'm allowed by opinion right! " And, in my opinion, I find it irritating when people are quick to respond critically without reading a post correctly. "I find..." infers my opinion, not a statement of fact, and 'personal' opinions (especially ones based on personal experience) don't require facts to support them!! Unless, of course, you are qualified to say otherwise | |||
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"My cervix is tilted, so sometimes smears are painful, and I'm at that age where I have mammograms too! " I find mammograms more uncomfortable and intrusive actually. | |||
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" It's not quite sure why you are talking about scaremongering? Who's scaremongering when it comes to smear tests? I haven't seen the media do anything of the sort other than encourage women to go to their appointments. There was a comment further up the thread encouraging us to go for our smears, which was then responded to by someone saying it was "unnecessary scaremongering!" As for the media scaremongering...it was a personal opinion (we are allowed to have them on here, right?) I have been witness to it in the past. But, then, just like opinions, we all have different experiences in life, don't we! But it isn't an opinion to state the media are scare mungering without any facts to back it up. I just don't think comments like yours are very helpful but like you said I'm allowed by opinion right! And, in my opinion, I find it irritating when people are quick to respond critically without reading a post correctly. "I find..." infers my opinion, not a statement of fact, and 'personal' opinions (especially ones based on personal experience) don't require facts to support them!! Unless, of course, you are qualified to say otherwise " Can I just clarify you are suggesting that everyone can have an opinion except people that don't agree with you, I was responding to you saying the media are scaremongering and I asked you a question which you chose not to answer. I think you will find it was you that responded critically and I will have no further discussion on this with you. Unless of course you would like to answer how the media are scare and mungering when it comes to smear tests. | |||
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"My cervix is tilted, so sometimes smears are painful, and I'm at that age where I have mammograms too! " Mines always painful too. My cervix is high apparently. Had my first mammogram this year, yes that hurt! Still would never ever not have these things though. They’re provided for a reason. | |||
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"My cervix is tilted, so sometimes smears are painful, and I'm at that age where I have mammograms too! I find mammograms more uncomfortable and intrusive actually. " What age do women routinely get asked to go for mammograms? | |||
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"My cervix is tilted, so sometimes smears are painful, and I'm at that age where I have mammograms too! Mines always painful too. My cervix is high apparently. Had my first mammogram this year, yes that hurt! Still would never ever not have these things though. They’re provided for a reason. " From reading a lot of these comments I think I've been quite lucky as whilst it isn't the most comfortable experience I can't say I've ever had pain. | |||
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"My cervix is tilted, so sometimes smears are painful, and I'm at that age where I have mammograms too! I find mammograms more uncomfortable and intrusive actually. What age do women routinely get asked to go for mammograms? " I was called for my first at 49. | |||
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"My cervix is tilted, so sometimes smears are painful, and I'm at that age where I have mammograms too! Mines always painful too. My cervix is high apparently. Had my first mammogram this year, yes that hurt! Still would never ever not have these things though. They’re provided for a reason. From reading a lot of these comments I think I've been quite lucky as whilst it isn't the most comfortable experience I can't say I've ever had pain. " Every time I go I say you may as well put that small metal thing away and get the big bloody long spade thing out coz it always happens! | |||
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"My cervix is tilted, so sometimes smears are painful, and I'm at that age where I have mammograms too! I find mammograms more uncomfortable and intrusive actually. What age do women routinely get asked to go for mammograms? I was called for my first at 49. " Oh ok, I guess that's something to look forward to then. | |||
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" It's not quite sure why you are talking about scaremongering? Who's scaremongering when it comes to smear tests? I haven't seen the media do anything of the sort other than encourage women to go to their appointments. There was a comment further up the thread encouraging us to go for our smears, which was then responded to by someone saying it was "unnecessary scaremongering!" As for the media scaremongering...it was a personal opinion (we are allowed to have them on here, right?) I have been witness to it in the past. But, then, just like opinions, we all have different experiences in life, don't we! But it isn't an opinion to state the media are scare mungering without any facts to back it up. I just don't think comments like yours are very helpful but like you said I'm allowed by opinion right! And, in my opinion, I find it irritating when people are quick to respond critically without reading a post correctly. "I find..." infers my opinion, not a statement of fact, and 'personal' opinions (especially ones based on personal experience) don't require facts to support them!! Unless, of course, you are qualified to say otherwise Can I just clarify you are suggesting that everyone can have an opinion except people that don't agree with you, I was responding to you saying the media are scaremongering and I asked you a question which you chose not to answer. I think you will find it was you that responded critically and I will have no further discussion on this with you. Unless of course you would like to answer how the media are scare and mungering when it comes to smear tests. " And I don't intend on having further conversation with, I reiterate, someone who very clearly does not read posts correctly, or does not understand the definitive difference between 'opinions' and 'statements' during a discussion. If you don't like your comments being challenged then at least educate yourself on the above mentioned terminology!! | |||
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"My cervix is tilted, so sometimes smears are painful, and I'm at that age where I have mammograms too! I find mammograms more uncomfortable and intrusive actually. " Same here! I'll take smears & Hollywood waxes over mammograms any day! Joking apart, I've had smears ever since I was 19. I now have to have them yearly & have the odd colposcopy/biopsy. I me er miss them. I personally don't understand why folk get embarrassed. | |||
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"My cervix is tilted, so sometimes smears are painful, and I'm at that age where I have mammograms too! Mines always painful too. My cervix is high apparently. Had my first mammogram this year, yes that hurt! Still would never ever not have these things though. They’re provided for a reason. From reading a lot of these comments I think I've been quite lucky as whilst it isn't the most comfortable experience I can't say I've ever had pain. Every time I go I say you may as well put that small metal thing away and get the big bloody long spade thing out coz it always happens! " Oh thats horrible Do they still use the metal ones? The last 2 smear tests I've been to have been plastic not that they are much better but less cold. | |||
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"My cervix is tilted, so sometimes smears are painful, and I'm at that age where I have mammograms too! Mines always painful too. My cervix is high apparently. Had my first mammogram this year, yes that hurt! Still would never ever not have these things though. They’re provided for a reason. From reading a lot of these comments I think I've been quite lucky as whilst it isn't the most comfortable experience I can't say I've ever had pain. Every time I go I say you may as well put that small metal thing away and get the big bloody long spade thing out coz it always happens! Oh thats horrible Do they still use the metal ones? The last 2 smear tests I've been to have been plastic not that they are much better but less cold. " Yeah mine was. I think! Not sure now it may not have been. They did used to be. I know they need the longer one every time haha | |||
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" It's not quite sure why you are talking about scaremongering? Who's scaremongering when it comes to smear tests? I haven't seen the media do anything of the sort other than encourage women to go to their appointments. There was a comment further up the thread encouraging us to go for our smears, which was then responded to by someone saying it was "unnecessary scaremongering!" As for the media scaremongering...it was a personal opinion (we are allowed to have them on here, right?) I have been witness to it in the past. But, then, just like opinions, we all have different experiences in life, don't we! But it isn't an opinion to state the media are scare mungering without any facts to back it up. I just don't think comments like yours are very helpful but like you said I'm allowed by opinion right! And, in my opinion, I find it irritating when people are quick to respond critically without reading a post correctly. "I find..." infers my opinion, not a statement of fact, and 'personal' opinions (especially ones based on personal experience) don't require facts to support them!! Unless, of course, you are qualified to say otherwise Can I just clarify you are suggesting that everyone can have an opinion except people that don't agree with you, I was responding to you saying the media are scaremongering and I asked you a question which you chose not to answer. I think you will find it was you that responded critically and I will have no further discussion on this with you. Unless of course you would like to answer how the media are scare and mungering when it comes to smear tests. And I don't intend on having further conversation with, I reiterate, someone who very clearly does not read posts correctly, or does not understand the definitive difference between 'opinions' and 'statements' during a discussion. If you don't like your comments being challenged then at least educate yourself on the above mentioned terminology!! " I would appreciate it if you could refrain from being personal I simply asked you a question.I think you will find it was you that was upset that I challenged your comments. Could you go back and read what has been written. I simply asked you how the media are scaremongering women into going to smear tests. Absolutely no need for the way you have felt to response to me. | |||
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"My cervix is tilted, so sometimes smears are painful, and I'm at that age where I have mammograms too! I find mammograms more uncomfortable and intrusive actually. What age do women routinely get asked to go for mammograms? " I was 48 when I first got called, and have received another invitation this year. But I've refused both invitations. I won't go into the reasons because I don't want the thread to go off on a tangent, but I would strongly urge all women to read up on the risks and consider the lack of research carried out on the long term effects of the screening before blindly accepting the facts and figures presented by the NHS in the invitation letter. | |||
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"My cervix is tilted, so sometimes smears are painful, and I'm at that age where I have mammograms too! I find mammograms more uncomfortable and intrusive actually. What age do women routinely get asked to go for mammograms? " I was 51, must have forgotten about me, as friends sane age as me, got theirs before | |||
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"My cervix is tilted, so sometimes smears are painful, and I'm at that age where I have mammograms too! I find mammograms more uncomfortable and intrusive actually. What age do women routinely get asked to go for mammograms? I was 51, must have forgotten about me, as friends sane age as me, got theirs before " Mine was late but I was 50 in the middle Of Covid. Could be why. | |||
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"My cervix is tilted, so sometimes smears are painful, and I'm at that age where I have mammograms too! I find mammograms more uncomfortable and intrusive actually. What age do women routinely get asked to go for mammograms? I was called for my first at 49. Oh ok, I guess that's something to look forward to then. " My mammogram didn't hurt at all! | |||
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"My cervix is tilted, so sometimes smears are painful, and I'm at that age where I have mammograms too! I find mammograms more uncomfortable and intrusive actually. What age do women routinely get asked to go for mammograms? I was called for my first at 49. Oh ok, I guess that's something to look forward to then. My mammogram didn't hurt at all! " This might sound like a silly thing to say but I wonder if the size of your breasts makes a difference to how uncomfortable it is. | |||
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"My cervix is tilted, so sometimes smears are painful, and I'm at that age where I have mammograms too! I find mammograms more uncomfortable and intrusive actually. What age do women routinely get asked to go for mammograms? I was called for my first at 49. Oh ok, I guess that's something to look forward to then. My mammogram didn't hurt at all! This might sound like a silly thing to say but I wonder if the size of your breasts makes a difference to how uncomfortable it is. " Could do as they have to squash them very flat! | |||
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"My cervix is tilted, so sometimes smears are painful, and I'm at that age where I have mammograms too! I find mammograms more uncomfortable and intrusive actually. What age do women routinely get asked to go for mammograms? I was called for my first at 49. Oh ok, I guess that's something to look forward to then. My mammogram didn't hurt at all! This might sound like a silly thing to say but I wonder if the size of your breasts makes a difference to how uncomfortable it is. " Possibly I have big boobs, they squash them between two plates I can imagine it hurting if you were snall boobed | |||
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"My cervix is tilted, so sometimes smears are painful, and I'm at that age where I have mammograms too! I find mammograms more uncomfortable and intrusive actually. What age do women routinely get asked to go for mammograms? I was called for my first at 49. Oh ok, I guess that's something to look forward to then. My mammogram didn't hurt at all! This might sound like a silly thing to say but I wonder if the size of your breasts makes a difference to how uncomfortable it is. Could do as they have to squash them very flat! " | |||
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"I had abnormal cells for 5 years running in my early twenties. And treatment for them too. A smear seems like nothing in comparison in terms of what is uncomfortable. I learned early on to always have mine done. I'm not shy about having it done. And they've seen so many women I don't give it a second thought in terms of what I look like. You should always have them done. Even in your twenties you can get an abnormal result. T" I had smear tests from the age of 20 however they have now changed the age to 25 because lots of women between 20 and 25 showed abnormal changes that didn't cause any issues but obviously causes distress and concern. | |||
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"I had abnormal cells for 5 years running in my early twenties. And treatment for them too. A smear seems like nothing in comparison in terms of what is uncomfortable. I learned early on to always have mine done. I'm not shy about having it done. And they've seen so many women I don't give it a second thought in terms of what I look like. You should always have them done. Even in your twenties you can get an abnormal result. T I had smear tests from the age of 20 however they have now changed the age to 25 because lots of women between 20 and 25 showed abnormal changes that didn't cause any issues but obviously causes distress and concern. " Not sure what to make of the age change. Mine got worse and I kept needing treatment to clear them. It worries me a little they leave it later. Surely some do become more serious cases and are better treated early so it would wise to do them early. Who knows. I haven't looked at the information on it. Though I guess with vaccines in place that alters things a lot. And we didn't have them. T | |||
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"I had abnormal cells for 5 years running in my early twenties. And treatment for them too. A smear seems like nothing in comparison in terms of what is uncomfortable. I learned early on to always have mine done. I'm not shy about having it done. And they've seen so many women I don't give it a second thought in terms of what I look like. You should always have them done. Even in your twenties you can get an abnormal result. T I had smear tests from the age of 20 however they have now changed the age to 25 because lots of women between 20 and 25 showed abnormal changes that didn't cause any issues but obviously causes distress and concern. Not sure what to make of the age change. Mine got worse and I kept needing treatment to clear them. It worries me a little they leave it later. Surely some do become more serious cases and are better treated early so it would wise to do them early. Who knows. I haven't looked at the information on it. Though I guess with vaccines in place that alters things a lot. And we didn't have them. T" I think the vaccine is what has played a major part although I never had it as I was too old when it was rolled out. | |||
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"I had abnormal cells for 5 years running in my early twenties. And treatment for them too. A smear seems like nothing in comparison in terms of what is uncomfortable. I learned early on to always have mine done. I'm not shy about having it done. And they've seen so many women I don't give it a second thought in terms of what I look like. You should always have them done. Even in your twenties you can get an abnormal result. T I had smear tests from the age of 20 however they have now changed the age to 25 because lots of women between 20 and 25 showed abnormal changes that didn't cause any issues but obviously causes distress and concern. Not sure what to make of the age change. Mine got worse and I kept needing treatment to clear them. It worries me a little they leave it later. Surely some do become more serious cases and are better treated early so it would wise to do them early. Who knows. I haven't looked at the information on it. Though I guess with vaccines in place that alters things a lot. And we didn't have them. T" I had a bit argument/debate about this with the Nurse as due to my issues in my twenties I wanted my daughter to have one earlier. (she’s now 25 anyway) I was told by the nurse and the GP that the reason they don’t is there is a higher risk of miscarriage later in life the earlier you have the smear tests. | |||
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"I always attend when due for cervical screening, it's a little uncomfortable and also the embarrassment but has to be done. Imagine if you guys had to visit the Doctors for a Prostrate examination regular..how many would attend regular or at all? It would be more uncomfortable if a Speculum was inserted so that they can see the walls of the rectum and look at the Prostrate Ha ha ha, not anymore! Hell nowadays, most men develop prostrate cancer but it remains inactive. Only if you start having the physical symptoms first will testing go forwards. Finger in the bum no longer needed because you know best if your water works are normal or starting to have weird days. Used to get cock lock when younger holding a piss, now if you wake up with cock lock, or reduced flow, take notes, keep track and if you see a pattern, then to the quacks. Otherwise its normal for your prostrate to enlarge a bit and then relax. " • This is not entirely accurate. A finger up the rectum is still performed as a complement to other methods or observations. I've had one for suspected Prostate and Hernia issues (it was all clear). However the experience was awful and painful; it was like Poseidon shoving a Trident up my alimentary canal and twisting it for sadistic good measure. My bloody curdling screams confirmed (gladly) that I'm unable to 'man up'. It also confirmed that I'm well and truly 'straight'. | |||
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"I always attend when due for cervical screening, it's a little uncomfortable and also the embarrassment but has to be done. Imagine if you guys had to visit the Doctors for a Prostrate examination regular..how many would attend regular or at all? It would be more uncomfortable if a Speculum was inserted so that they can see the walls of the rectum and look at the Prostrate Ha ha ha, not anymore! Hell nowadays, most men develop prostrate cancer but it remains inactive. Only if you start having the physical symptoms first will testing go forwards. Finger in the bum no longer needed because you know best if your water works are normal or starting to have weird days. Used to get cock lock when younger holding a piss, now if you wake up with cock lock, or reduced flow, take notes, keep track and if you see a pattern, then to the quacks. Otherwise its normal for your prostrate to enlarge a bit and then relax. • This is not entirely accurate. A finger up the rectum is still performed as a complement to other methods or observations. I've had one for suspected Prostate and Hernia issues (it was all clear). However the experience was awful and painful; it was like Poseidon shoving a Trident up my alimentary canal and twisting it for sadistic good measure. My bloody curdling screams confirmed (gladly) that I'm unable to 'man up'. It also confirmed that I'm well and truly 'straight'. " | |||
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"I had abnormal cells for 5 years running in my early twenties. And treatment for them too. A smear seems like nothing in comparison in terms of what is uncomfortable. I learned early on to always have mine done. I'm not shy about having it done. And they've seen so many women I don't give it a second thought in terms of what I look like. You should always have them done. Even in your twenties you can get an abnormal result. T I had smear tests from the age of 20 however they have now changed the age to 25 because lots of women between 20 and 25 showed abnormal changes that didn't cause any issues but obviously causes distress and concern. Not sure what to make of the age change. Mine got worse and I kept needing treatment to clear them. It worries me a little they leave it later. Surely some do become more serious cases and are better treated early so it would wise to do them early. Who knows. I haven't looked at the information on it. Though I guess with vaccines in place that alters things a lot. And we didn't have them. T I think the vaccine is what has played a major part although I never had it as I was too old when it was rolled out. " Same here. T | |||
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"I well overdue. But it's logistics, either I have to ring the surgery and spend ages on hold or I've actually managed to make an appointment and my period has starred (they're not regular). I wish they had a drop in centre with like a ticket machine it would be so much easier. " The nurses are more than happy to perform the test even during a period, although slightly messier, it doesn't have any bearing on the results | |||
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"I had abnormal cells for 5 years running in my early twenties. And treatment for them too. A smear seems like nothing in comparison in terms of what is uncomfortable. I learned early on to always have mine done. I'm not shy about having it done. And they've seen so many women I don't give it a second thought in terms of what I look like. You should always have them done. Even in your twenties you can get an abnormal result. T I had smear tests from the age of 20 however they have now changed the age to 25 because lots of women between 20 and 25 showed abnormal changes that didn't cause any issues but obviously causes distress and concern. Not sure what to make of the age change. Mine got worse and I kept needing treatment to clear them. It worries me a little they leave it later. Surely some do become more serious cases and are better treated early so it would wise to do them early. Who knows. I haven't looked at the information on it. Though I guess with vaccines in place that alters things a lot. And we didn't have them. T I had a bit argument/debate about this with the Nurse as due to my issues in my twenties I wanted my daughter to have one earlier. (she’s now 25 anyway) I was told by the nurse and the GP that the reason they don’t is there is a higher risk of miscarriage later in life the earlier you have the smear tests. " Really? Taking a small sample of cells from the cervix causes miscarriages later in life??? That doesnt make much sense at all! Where did they get that from? I'd have asked for the supporting evidence. T | |||
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"I well overdue. But it's logistics, either I have to ring the surgery and spend ages on hold or I've actually managed to make an appointment and my period has starred (they're not regular). I wish they had a drop in centre with like a ticket machine it would be so much easier. The nurses are more than happy to perform the test even during a period, although slightly messier, it doesn't have any bearing on the results " I have always been told you should not go for your smear test if you are on your period, In fact it even says that in the leaflet. | |||
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""abnormal cells" seems to be the recurring theme here. Are these false positives or simply inconclusive test results that warrant further investigations?" It means there’s changes in the cells on the cervix, they’ll often go back to normal by themselves but need to be kept an eye on in case they progress into cancer. | |||
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""abnormal cells" seems to be the recurring theme here. Are these false positives or simply inconclusive test results that warrant further investigations? It means there’s changes in the cells on the cervix, they’ll often go back to normal by themselves but need to be kept an eye on in case they progress into cancer. " Mine were severe cell changes so they do loop excision treatment ( a small electric loop) to effectively burn the cells away. Biopsy taken before hand and then told they were high grade cin, so could’ve progressed into cancer if left longer without treatment | |||
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"I had abnormal cells for 5 years running in my early twenties. And treatment for them too. A smear seems like nothing in comparison in terms of what is uncomfortable. I learned early on to always have mine done. I'm not shy about having it done. And they've seen so many women I don't give it a second thought in terms of what I look like. You should always have them done. Even in your twenties you can get an abnormal result. T I had smear tests from the age of 20 however they have now changed the age to 25 because lots of women between 20 and 25 showed abnormal changes that didn't cause any issues but obviously causes distress and concern. Not sure what to make of the age change. Mine got worse and I kept needing treatment to clear them. It worries me a little they leave it later. Surely some do become more serious cases and are better treated early so it would wise to do them early. Who knows. I haven't looked at the information on it. Though I guess with vaccines in place that alters things a lot. And we didn't have them. T I had a bit argument/debate about this with the Nurse as due to my issues in my twenties I wanted my daughter to have one earlier. (she’s now 25 anyway) I was told by the nurse and the GP that the reason they don’t is there is a higher risk of miscarriage later in life the earlier you have the smear tests. Really? Taking a small sample of cells from the cervix causes miscarriages later in life??? That doesnt make much sense at all! Where did they get that from? I'd have asked for the supporting evidence. T" I always assumed it was because it takes many years for cancerous changes to develop after exposure to HPV, therefore cervical cancer is very unlikely to occur in women under 25. | |||
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"Now I am at an age they don't send me letters. It must be okay for those my age to develop cancer and die. " At a certain age cancer is less likely and if it was it’s much slower progression | |||
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"I'm going for a smear test next Tuesday. It's only been a year since my last one and they need to check me out again so I am concerned x" Totally understand your concern and I would be exactly the same. What I will say is I've known lots of friends and family who have had abnormal cells and check every year and may have all been OK. | |||
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"I'm going for a smear test next Tuesday. It's only been a year since my last one and they need to check me out again so I am concerned x Totally understand your concern and I would be exactly the same. What I will say is I've known lots of friends and family who have had abnormal cells and check every year and may have all been OK. " I will just add in case it isn't OK just remember there are always people here to support you and remember if there is any other changes whatever it is they've got it early. Xx | |||
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"I will always be that person that will keep on at my friends and my family to get a smear done .. I was having them done yearly due to abnormal cells and recently had to have them removed. I can totally understand why for some women it’s extremely uncomfortable and in some cases traumatic but it’s still extremely important that we get checked out regularly." I'm also one of those friends that encourage friends to go for their smears. One friend who was early 20's had been having sex since the age of 16, was on the pill but never had been asked to go for a smear, I got her to ask for one and the result was to show that she did in fact have cancerous cells. She managed to get them treated and went on to have 3 gorgeous girls. God knows what would have happened had she not pushed for that smear appointment. | |||
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"I'm going for a smear test next Tuesday. It's only been a year since my last one and they need to check me out again so I am concerned x Totally understand your concern and I would be exactly the same. What I will say is I've known lots of friends and family who have had abnormal cells and check every year and may have all been OK. I will just add in case it isn't OK just remember there are always people here to support you and remember if there is any other changes whatever it is they've got it early. Xx" That's very kind of you to say. It's much appreciated, thank you x | |||
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"A female friend of mine never went for her smears as she was too embarrassed about her body. Last year she was admitted to hospital with bleeding down below, they ran some tests including a smear and discovered she had cervical cancer at stage 4. She passed away February this year aged 46. I now tell all my female friends to get the smears done. Yes it's uncomfortable but it can be life saving." I'm sorry for your loss. I was always reluctant to go for my smear tests because I was embarrassed and I was worried it would be painful untill a friend of mine Said to me it will be a lot more embarrassing having cervical cancer treatment and a hell of a lot more painful. X | |||
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"A female friend of mine never went for her smears as she was too embarrassed about her body. Last year she was admitted to hospital with bleeding down below, they ran some tests including a smear and discovered she had cervical cancer at stage 4. She passed away February this year aged 46. I now tell all my female friends to get the smears done. Yes it's uncomfortable but it can be life saving." • Really sorry to hear this. | |||
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"A female friend of mine never went for her smears as she was too embarrassed about her body. Last year she was admitted to hospital with bleeding down below, they ran some tests including a smear and discovered she had cervical cancer at stage 4. She passed away February this year aged 46. I now tell all my female friends to get the smears done. Yes it's uncomfortable but it can be life saving." I see this all too often. It’s very sad and I’m so sorry for your loss. After having an operation last year to remove cancerous parts of my cervix, I consider myself one of the lucky ones. It’s a service we simply cannot afford to be worried about (appearance/discomfort etc). It’s life saving! | |||
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"I book mine promptly and just get on with it. My uterus is prolapsed so it's incredibly uncomfortable. The tester has to prod and fish about to find the entrance to my cervix and it's very unpleasant, but worth it. The second to last one, the nurse put my knickers in the sink (by accident) and I had to go to work in wet keks " Yes, my better part has that issue too because partly down to kidney dialysis age etc... She's now had a transplant but left her with the prolapse. Very embarrassing, very uncomfortable at times. But definately really important. As of a result of a test about 12 months ago she's found she has HPV result of anti rejection drugs. We haven't played in a long time because of prolapse so it isn't from sex. But there you go.... She's now being monitored just another thing to cope with. Oh and protection doesn't protect you from HPV either it can be transmitted several different ways. | |||
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"I book mine promptly and just get on with it. My uterus is prolapsed so it's incredibly uncomfortable. The tester has to prod and fish about to find the entrance to my cervix and it's very unpleasant, but worth it. The second to last one, the nurse put my knickers in the sink (by accident) and I had to go to work in wet keks Yes, my better part has that issue too because partly down to kidney dialysis age etc... She's now had a transplant but left her with the prolapse. Very embarrassing, very uncomfortable at times. But definately really important. As of a result of a test about 12 months ago she's found she has HPV result of anti rejection drugs. We haven't played in a long time because of prolapse so it isn't from sex. But there you go.... She's now being monitored just another thing to cope with. Oh and protection doesn't protect you from HPV either it can be transmitted several different ways. " I'm pretty sure HPV can remain dormant for decades so could be from sex before the prolapse. | |||
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"I book mine promptly and just get on with it. My uterus is prolapsed so it's incredibly uncomfortable. The tester has to prod and fish about to find the entrance to my cervix and it's very unpleasant, but worth it. The second to last one, the nurse put my knickers in the sink (by accident) and I had to go to work in wet keks Yes, my better part has that issue too because partly down to kidney dialysis age etc... She's now had a transplant but left her with the prolapse. Very embarrassing, very uncomfortable at times. But definately really important. As of a result of a test about 12 months ago she's found she has HPV result of anti rejection drugs. We haven't played in a long time because of prolapse so it isn't from sex. But there you go.... She's now being monitored just another thing to cope with. Oh and protection doesn't protect you from HPV either it can be transmitted several different ways. I'm pretty sure HPV can remain dormant for decades so could be from sex before the prolapse. " Yeh there's hundreds of ways it's only the new testing that's been picking it up. 1000's have been posting their now HPV positive (incendently I'm not, and it can just clear up by itself). Point was putting the get tested message out and more regularly if very sexually active. That's the point. | |||
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"It's uncomfortable, embarrassing and stressful. Most women put it off I think, that's certainly the consensus between my friends and I. I know that as we've aged we've all gotten better at booking in when the reminder comes. I'm not sure if that's just because of age or because there's a lot more media coverage and encouragement these days. " I have never found any gyno investigation or procedure to be embarrassing, uncomfortable or painful. That isn't me saying it's the same for everyone as I know a lot of people are not as relaxed about medical procedures as me and there are many reasons thst would make it all of those things, not just physically but mentally also. I'm often the one that is happy for students to take a gander or practice etc. Even when I went to the local GUM clinic they knew how easy going I was. It's such an important tool for medical practitioners but I do think more needs to be done to combat the stigma around it and more support should be in place for those who find it difficult. Evie | |||
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"I used to ignore mine until I lost my mum to it because she ignored hers too, she went from healthy running a business to destroyed and gone in a few months, now I have them and they found cells last time. So yeah, as horrible and scary as they are, as much as the procedure desperately needs updating, take the test when the letter arrives, they really do save lives Also, side note, I don’t understand why they can’t just use a camera like they do for absolutely any other body part, I don’t get why it specifically HAS to be a speculum with the naked eye, isn’t a microscope more observant and it has the bonus of a recording that could be saved for reference if needed " They have to get a clear sample of cervical tissue, not any other part of the anatomy. The only way to ensure no other vaginal tissue is sampled is to "open up" the area. Even when a scope is used in colposcopy, it's via a speculum. You can't identify possible cancerous cells by eye, only via removing them, staining them on a microscope slide and then viewing them with the eye. | |||
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"Lådìes, Bínarìes, Whatévèries and Persons of Interest... Recently I had a delicate conversation with a colleague - whose candour wasn't lost on me - about her cervical screening Reminder Letter. The crux of the conversation was that she was often slow to react or follow-up on the letter for several reasons: idleness, apathy, hang-ups about her body or just general fear. Is this common? Do you also feel the same? Are you allowed to take someone with you or be chaperoned during the screening session? Do you leave it too late?" Received letter few days ago...I'll skip this year as I had hysterectomy last year. Its not a very pleasant experience but it has to be done I suppose. | |||
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"Ever since having to have cervical cells removed (LLETZ) due to an abnormal smear test I am always on top of my tests and they get done as soon as the reminder comes through. I have always found them extremely uncomfortable even after 14 years of having them but the LLETZ was a much worse experience, having anaesthetic injected straight into your cervix is not pleasant, I would mych rathet have a few minutes of uncomfortableness than that again." ° I had not heard of LLETZ until now. But thank you. | |||
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"Ever since having to have cervical cells removed (LLETZ) due to an abnormal smear test I am always on top of my tests and they get done as soon as the reminder comes through. I have always found them extremely uncomfortable even after 14 years of having them but the LLETZ was a much worse experience, having anaesthetic injected straight into your cervix is not pleasant, I would mych rathet have a few minutes of uncomfortableness than that again." This 100 per cent this | |||
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" Get your knickers off, please! " Sending you love and best wishes. Yep vital we get checked! I've tried to avoid it in the past, but if you tell the nurse you're a bit nervous they have always been gentle. | |||
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"I need to check with my gp when my next one is due. I can't remember having one in the last 3 years " • A gentle reminder... | |||
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"Lådìes, Bínarìes, Whatévèries and Persons of Interest... Recently I had a delicate conversation with a colleague - whose candour wasn't lost on me - about her cervical screening Reminder Letter. The crux of the conversation was that she was often slow to react or follow-up on the letter for several reasons: idleness, apathy, hang-ups about her body or just general fear. Is this common? Do you also feel the same? Are you allowed to take someone with you or be chaperoned during the screening session? Do you leave it too late?" It is very common due to most women had painful experiences or simply been anxious about the test in general. Patients always have a right to ask for chaperone so she can take someone with her if she wishes to. It’s not recommended to leave it too late as it’s best way to find out early stages of cancer and healed from it with a very simple procedure. | |||
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"I don't find it uncomfortable or embarrassing at all but I haven't had one since I was probably late teens I'm now 37, I see it as just more fear mongering and I'm not interested x" In what way is it fear mongering, out of interest? Do you feel the same way about other types of cancer screening, e.g. breast screening, bowel cancer screening? Genuine questions. | |||
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"I don't find it uncomfortable or embarrassing at all but I haven't had one since I was probably late teens I'm now 37, I see it as just more fear mongering and I'm not interested x" A family friend left hers until it was too late. | |||
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"I put off pretty all medical procedures for all the reasons you list. Smears are the worst. " I've lost friends and family to cancer, and seen what terrible deaths they were. If you catch some of them early you can be saved, or have less invasive treatment. I've had lots of intimate examinations over time, as I've had children; a hysterectomy due to massive fibroids; breast surgery; cholecystectomy and incontinence issues caused by the hysterectomy/fibroids/child-bearing etc. My consultants and surgeons were all men for all of my procedures. They're professional men with a job to do. When I have my smear I usually have a chat with the nurse as she does her job. I don't shave or trim, I just make sure I'm clean. I do all this for my family. I want to be here for as long as possible for them. | |||
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"I put off pretty all medical procedures for all the reasons you list. Smears are the worst. " Darling. Do not delay. Just had the results of a colposcopy. No cancerous cells thankfully. I know it’s uncomfortable but surely worth a few moments discomfort? | |||
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"I don't find it uncomfortable or embarrassing at all but I haven't had one since I was probably late teens I'm now 37, I see it as just more fear mongering and I'm not interested x" Your choice. Your health. Your life. | |||
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" Please, please, please check your smears are up to date. I've seen the utter devastation cervical cancer causes. Abnormal cells are easily treated with early detection. Please go x" This. | |||
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"I don't find it uncomfortable or embarrassing at all but I haven't had one since I was probably late teens I'm now 37, I see it as just more fear mongering and I'm not interested x" Are you serious? High profile women in Ireland are dying, having gone public about our national screening programme outsourcing samples abroad where they were misreported as being normal smears when they were not. Not only did this happen but patients weren't informed of this for a good 18 months afterwards and it was too late for some. It's heartbreaking when we see in the national news of another one of these mothers/wives/daughters dying needlessly. Google 'Vicky Phelan' to read more. It's definitely not fearmongering, it's very real. Please do proper research before coming to conclusions like that ... for you and your familys sake xx | |||
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