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"Not me. I have so many questions arising from your post, OP, but that's not what you asked for. " | |||
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"I've never understood why people 'watch porn behind their partners backs'.. bizarre if you have to hide that in a relationship." | |||
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"Anyone else feel like this these days? I'd class myself as a massive enthusiast and obsessive. I've got 3 external hard drives full of it. It's all I get up to behind my Mrs's back it's insane. I'll think nothing of spending 4 hours having a massive long edging wank session when I get the free time. Anyone else?" Been there Have more external HDDs full of the stuff Spent many many many many hours downloading it but never watched it. It can become unhealthy if it starts to affect your quality of life, your relationship with your partner, friends and family. It can become an addiction, and lead to unhealthy attitudes towards sex. In the end I just stopped. I recognised it wasn’t good for me. Now a days the only porn I watch is the stuff I film myself ![]() | |||
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"It doesn't help when your first wife was an absolute animal in bed and enjoyed porn herself and with me, and then your 2nd wife is not even in the same league sexually and very tame ![]() It sounds like you are your wife are incompatible. Really you should do her a favour and leave her, instead of spending your time on a swingers site and developing a porn addiction behind her back. ![]() | |||
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"You mean when people get all high and mighty? I LOVE when these threads take this kind of turn. ![]() I meant the way these threads always become someone making a comment about their partner who isn’t on here. Feels a bit unfair. But what you said as well. I love that too ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Feel free to ask Not me. I have so many questions arising from your post, OP, but that's not what you asked for. " OK... 1. Does it affect your relationship with your partner? 2. What is your partner doing during your 4 hour sessions? 3. Has it made real physical sex more or less enjoyable? 4. What would you do if you were cut off from all porn? | |||
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"It doesn't help when your first wife was an absolute animal in bed and enjoyed porn herself and with me, and then your 2nd wife is not even in the same league sexually and very tame ![]() I assume you knew that when you made the choice to marry her? | |||
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"Feel free to ask Not me. I have so many questions arising from your post, OP, but that's not what you asked for. OK... 1. Does it affect your relationship with your partner? 2. What is your partner doing during your 4 hour sessions? 3. Has it made real physical sex more or less enjoyable? 4. What would you do if you were cut off from all porn? " | |||
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"You mean when people get all high and mighty? I LOVE when these threads take this kind of turn. ![]() ![]() ![]() That's why I asked permission before posting my questions. ![]() | |||
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"1: not really, I may get irritable a little bit if I've not had chance to watch porn and wank for a few days. 2: Usually at work (we often work opposite shifts) 3: No, i still crave sex like mad and it's frustrating 4: It would be like a junkie coming off Heroin Feel free to ask Not me. I have so many questions arising from your post, OP, but that's not what you asked for. OK... 1. Does it affect your relationship with your partner? 2. What is your partner doing during your 4 hour sessions? 3. Has it made real physical sex more or less enjoyable? 4. What would you do if you were cut off from all porn? " Your answer to Q4 sounds like you should seek some help. | |||
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"You mean when people get all high and mighty? I LOVE when these threads take this kind of turn. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Not your first rodeo ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I've never understood why people 'watch porn behind their partners backs'.. bizarre if you have to hide that in a relationship." We agree we like to watch it together then have a play while it's on It's so hot ![]() | |||
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"I've never understood why people 'watch porn behind their partners backs'.. bizarre if you have to hide that in a relationship. We agree we like to watch it together then have a play while it's on It's so hot ![]() | |||
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"It's not for me, I really don't like porn, I don't watch it myself and I avoid meeting those who watch it a lot. It leads to poor sexual performance and unrealistic expectations when over used. " Exactly, it's really not healthy. | |||
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"Anyone else feel like this these days? I'd class myself as a massive enthusiast and obsessive. I've got 3 external hard drives full of it. It's all I get up to behind my Mrs's back it's insane. I'll think nothing of spending 4 hours having a massive long edging wank session when I get the free time. Anyone else?" Like the OP I also have a massive collection and I feel I have to watch at least a little porn daily otherwise I feel that a "junkie" needing a fix. I genuinely dont need to cum watching it either but feel bad without watching it. | |||
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"I've never understood why people 'watch porn behind their partners backs'.. bizarre if you have to hide that in a relationship." Because they are not getting the sort of sex they need | |||
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"I think something becoming habitual- you watch porn every morning before you have a shower- is different to it being an addiction. I think when porn becomes addictive- you find yourself being late for work or appointments because you’re watching it or you find yourself getting into debt or financial problems watching it and can’t stop- then you need to seek help. I truly believe that having a positive attitude to sex means that it’s ok to do things regularly, even everyday, if it brings you joy and it is done safely. For example, if you had sex with your partner everyday because you are horny, that’s not a problem. So why is watching porn? You have a scroll of twitter everyday before your shower, that’s not a problem, so why is watching porn? I think breaking habits that you dislike is important and will be difficult but I also consider them not the same as an addiction or an unhealthy relationship. ![]() There are actually very valid and scientifically proven reasons why it is not ok to consume porn on that level lol | |||
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"I think something becoming habitual- you watch porn every morning before you have a shower- is different to it being an addiction. I think when porn becomes addictive- you find yourself being late for work or appointments because you’re watching it or you find yourself getting into debt or financial problems watching it and can’t stop- then you need to seek help. I truly believe that having a positive attitude to sex means that it’s ok to do things regularly, even everyday, if it brings you joy and it is done safely. For example, if you had sex with your partner everyday because you are horny, that’s not a problem. So why is watching porn? You have a scroll of twitter everyday before your shower, that’s not a problem, so why is watching porn? I think breaking habits that you dislike is important and will be difficult but I also consider them not the same as an addiction or an unhealthy relationship. ![]() Fairs. | |||
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"I think something becoming habitual- you watch porn every morning before you have a shower- is different to it being an addiction. I think when porn becomes addictive- you find yourself being late for work or appointments because you’re watching it or you find yourself getting into debt or financial problems watching it and can’t stop- then you need to seek help. I truly believe that having a positive attitude to sex means that it’s ok to do things regularly, even everyday, if it brings you joy and it is done safely. For example, if you had sex with your partner everyday because you are horny, that’s not a problem. So why is watching porn? You have a scroll of twitter everyday before your shower, that’s not a problem, so why is watching porn? I think breaking habits that you dislike is important and will be difficult but I also consider them not the same as an addiction or an unhealthy relationship. ![]() Scientifically proven? I'd love to have been on the ethics panel assessing the double blind study you'd need to run to come even close to suggesting proof. I think you raise very valid points Steve, any activity only becomes problematic when a person struggles to stop that activity despite it having negative effects. Mr | |||
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"The majority of it is about pain and abuse towards women. Showing gaping holes of her arse after being roughly fucked, head being pulled back by her hair, no interest in her as a person. No wonder men have lost the art of seduction and arousal. Porn is boring and repetitive from what I've seen." Whenever I see statements like this I always wonder about the personality behind them and the cookies/algorithms on their devices. When I open up a porn page it may contain some videos like this but it most certainly isn't mostly this type. A great deal of it will ostensibly be "real" scenario's. Or maybe I am biased in what I choose to watch and ignore more of this type than I realise ![]() | |||
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"The majority of it is about pain and abuse towards women. Showing gaping holes of her arse after being roughly fucked, head being pulled back by her hair, no interest in her as a person. No wonder men have lost the art of seduction and arousal. Porn is boring and repetitive from what I've seen." I'd agree. It's commonplace in mainstream porn. | |||
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"If you are genuinely interested in knowing the science I'd recommend the 2014 peer reviewed journal entry "brain structure do functional connectivity associated with pornography consumption" Or the easier meta-analysis by Dr Neil Malamuth in 2009 that found that higher rates of porn viewing was linked violent ideas and behavioura towards ![]() ![]() To be fair I don’t dispute this. I have done very little reading on it and I’m not any aware of psychology really. I still believe that there’s a difference between habitual consumption and addiction, with anything. But accept that habitual consumption can still be problematic as you said in reply. Though I think it’s also based on the assumption that people are unethically consuming unethical, mass produced porn, which I don’t think people should be consuming anyway. | |||
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"If you are genuinely interested in knowing the science I'd recommend the 2014 peer reviewed journal entry "brain structure do functional connectivity associated with pornography consumption" Or the easier meta-analysis by Dr Neil Malamuth in 2009 that found that higher rates of porn viewing was linked violent ideas and behavioura towards ![]() ![]() From the first study you quote:- However, the observed volumetric association with PHs in the striatum could likewise be a precondition rather than a consequence of frequent pornography consumption. Individuals with lower striatum volume may need more external stimulation to experience pleasure and might therefore experience pornography consumption as more rewarding, which may in turn lead to higher PHs. Like I said, the type of double blind study you'd need in order to claim proof would never get through ethics. Correlation isn't causation nor does a study on 64 men count as conclusive. Mr | |||
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"I think porn and masturbation at that level is unhealthy My sex life improved massively when I stopped watching porn and cut back on masturbation " Definitely agree with this ![]() | |||
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"If you are genuinely interested in knowing the science I'd recommend the 2014 peer reviewed journal entry "brain structure do functional connectivity associated with pornography consumption" Or the easier meta-analysis by Dr Neil Malamuth in 2009 that found that higher rates of porn viewing was linked violent ideas and behavioura towards ![]() ![]() Yes numerous studies point to a precondition towards a certain type of attitude towards women and sex that is amplified or validated through massive porn consumption. | |||
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"If you are genuinely interested in knowing the science I'd recommend the 2014 peer reviewed journal entry "brain structure do functional connectivity associated with pornography consumption" Or the easier meta-analysis by Dr Neil Malamuth in 2009 that found that higher rates of porn viewing was linked violent ideas and behavioura towards ![]() ![]() That's also just one study and meta analysis, there are plenty more out there that suggest similar outcomes. You can fight for porn all you like but the truth is, a high quantity of it does not respect women as equal sexual partners and still creates a sexual fantasy through the male gaze. And that isnt even tackling the main issues of how problematic and dangerous free porn sites are re r@pe videos, assault videos, human trafficking etc | |||
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"Agreed, it's the type or porn that's being consumed rather than the existence of porn as a genre of sexual fantasy outlet that's problematic. If ethical porn was consumed half of much I dont think we'd be dealing with half the stuff we are from men on sites like this ![]() True. Definitely agree the impact it can and does have on men and their attitudes to women and sex. Ethical porn is better for those things although I still think there’s issues that those content creators reproduce also. But people are consuming porn more ethically I reckon today than maybe 10 years ago. So hopeful it gets better | |||
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"Agreed, it's the type or porn that's being consumed rather than the existence of porn as a genre of sexual fantasy outlet that's problematic. If ethical porn was consumed half of much I dont think we'd be dealing with half the stuff we are from men on sites like this ![]() I'm curious, do you genuinely believe that porn is responsible for this? That 25 years ago before internet porn became common men were all respectful of women? My view is going to be subjective and influenced by my life experience but I've worked in an almost exclusively male environment for roughly that time and if there's been any change in men's attitudes to women during that time it's for the better. As late as my mid 20's there would be naked calenders in most workshops these are long gone, as are the Nuts and Zoo magazines that were ubiquitous canteen reading material. The crude objectification of women had genuinely decreased in my experience.p As Damselfly says above, porn can certainly lead people into a dark world but the truth is that this isn't everyone. Those that it does already have this in them. I certainly wouldn't argue that for such people the availability of violent/illegal/degrading/bad word of your choice porn doesn't normalise stuff that shouldn't be normalised. I think the problem is when we start claiming that because such individuals exist the problem is the porn not them, that porn has this effect on everyone or that such personalities didn't exist pre internet porn is dangerous and short sighted. Mr | |||
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"It's not for me, I really don't like porn, I don't watch it myself and I avoid meeting those who watch it a lot. It leads to poor sexual performance and unrealistic expectations when over used. " ![]() | |||
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"Agreed, it's the type or porn that's being consumed rather than the existence of porn as a genre of sexual fantasy outlet that's problematic. If ethical porn was consumed half of much I dont think we'd be dealing with half the stuff we are from men on sites like this ![]() No not saying it's happening en Masse at all, and like the studies suggest, there needs to be a predisposition to that type of opinion about women to begin with. If we are talking teenagers viewing that type of material that is inherently degrading to women from a young age (mainly mainstream) then that is creating a predisposition for viewing women a certain way imo. But like all consumable media, this type of attitude leaks into it all so it's not just porn either like | |||
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"On places such as here, I don’t think you need to delve too deep to see that there are more than a few men who think that sex is done to a woman, rather than with her. I think porn is responsible for that " Personally ( I'm not a professional) I think there's an element to porn, which portrays the women as desiring sex and pleasure and as you put it " done to them". It's intriguing to see how many men desire a liberated woman , yet feel a little awkward when they're confronted by one. I suppose porn has fulfilled a purpose for many, but its not always for sexual release ? Too much reliance on anything can't be good, but fir some it adds ideas and fantasy, even if some turn out to be rather naff for real. | |||
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"Agreed, it's the type or porn that's being consumed rather than the existence of porn as a genre of sexual fantasy outlet that's problematic. If ethical porn was consumed half of much I dont think we'd be dealing with half the stuff we are from men on sites like this ![]() I've lived in the UK for nearly 30 years and I don't see any improvement in general misogyny. Calendars on walls are the public face of what is an insidious problem. And that to me is the issue with misogyny - it's built into our society. Like racism. Porn isn't responsible - but mainstream porn is one thing that perpetuates it and has a huge impact on the attitudes of young people. | |||
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"The majority of it is about pain and abuse towards women. Showing gaping holes of her arse after being roughly fucked, head being pulled back by her hair, no interest in her as a person. No wonder men have lost the art of seduction and arousal. Porn is boring and repetitive from what I've seen. Whenever I see statements like this I always wonder about the personality behind them and the cookies/algorithms on their devices. When I open up a porn page it may contain some videos like this but it most certainly isn't mostly this type. A great deal of it will ostensibly be "real" scenario's. Or maybe I am biased in what I choose to watch and ignore more of this type than I realise ![]() It's on in clubs! I don't put it on. Don't make such assumptions. Use some common sense. If I said I don't like it, why would I upload it? | |||
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"The majority of it is about pain and abuse towards women. Showing gaping holes of her arse after being roughly fucked, head being pulled back by her hair, no interest in her as a person. No wonder men have lost the art of seduction and arousal. Porn is boring and repetitive from what I've seen." Yes, I don't know where these unrealistic expectations come from. Take the scenario of something I watched the other day, say, of a more mature lady wanting to use two young men purely for her gratification. These sort of scenarios can objectify men as well. G | |||
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"The majority of it is about pain and abuse towards women. Showing gaping holes of her arse after being roughly fucked, head being pulled back by her hair, no interest in her as a person. No wonder men have lost the art of seduction and arousal. Porn is boring and repetitive from what I've seen. Yes, I don't know where these unrealistic expectations come from. Take the scenario of something I watched the other day, say, of a more mature lady wanting to use two young men purely for her gratification. These sort of scenarios can objectify men as well. Men beg for this in real life in my experience. I am inundated with requests so unless she's abusing them it's not in the same category. G" | |||
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"On places such as here, I don’t think you need to delve too deep to see that there are more than a few men who think that sex is done to a woman, rather than with her." That's well put. | |||
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"Porn can educate you! Name something you learnt? " Umm, most of my German vocab? G | |||
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"Porn can educate you! Name something you learnt? Umm, most of my German vocab? G" How many words is that? ![]() | |||
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"Porn can educate you! Name something you learnt? Umm, most of my German vocab? G How many words is that? ![]() You'd be surprised..... G | |||
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"Porn can educate you! Name something you learnt? " Things that aren't on the interest options on here. | |||
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"Porn can educate you! Name something you learnt? Umm, most of my German vocab? G How many words is that? ![]() I think I'd pick up more universally useful words with Duo Lingo ![]() | |||
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"Porn can educate you! Name something you learnt? Things that aren't on the interest options on here." Sneaky! ![]() | |||
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"I support sex work. And if that means an unemployed single mum has to get reemed out by 8 guys to feed her kids for my viewing pleasure, then so be it " It's reamed. | |||
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"I support sex work. And if that means an unemployed single mum has to get reemed out by 8 guys to feed her kids for my viewing pleasure, then so be it " Its all about doing your bit! Porn people of the world thank you, and me, and them, lol ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Does anyone in Bolton like to watch porn " I'm guessing there could be a few souls | |||
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