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"Correct me if im wrong, but werent the kids there for apporox, 3 months, were settled and were even calling them mum and dad, dont see how the social setvices could moan. They were obviously caring for these kids x" 8 weeks it says on the BBC website. Doesn't really matter how long they were they, it's the misguided 'principle' behind the removal that wound me up... | |||
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"Correct me if im wrong, but werent the kids there for apporox, 3 months, were settled and were even calling them mum and dad, dont see how the social setvices could moan. They were obviously caring for these kids x8 weeks it says on the BBC website. Doesn't really matter how long they were they, it's the misguided 'principle' behind the removal that wound me up... " Agree, made my blood boil. | |||
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"I bet they would prefer if the Foster Parents were child abusers, peodo's and gay " Not sure that being gay is quite the same as being a child abuser or a peadophile, but hey ho, every day is a school day on Fab ! | |||
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"I bet they would prefer if the Foster Parents were child abusers, peodo's and gay as that seems to be the requirement for most social services. They are all PC and don't wish to offend the minority cases. They never give a dam about whats right for the children, how would they many haven't had any kids of their own." Do you have the stats to back that up or are we working on generalisations and sweeping statements. Why do you feel that placing a child with a gay couple sits alongside placing them with child abusers and pedophiles? Do you not think gay people can bring children up properly? | |||
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"I bet they would prefer if the Foster Parents were child abusers, peodo's and gay Not sure that being gay is quite the same as being a child abuser or a peadophile, but hey ho, every day is a school day on Fab !" Not saying being Gay is wrong and definitely not saying they are the same child abuses or peadophile's. Just making a point they don't descriminate against them as it is seen to be wrong. But they will take your releigon and politics into account. | |||
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"I bet they would prefer if the Foster Parents were child abusers, peodo's and gay Not sure that being gay is quite the same as being a child abuser or a peadophile, but hey ho, every day is a school day on Fab ! Not saying being Gay is wrong and definitely not saying they are the same child abuses or peadophile's. Just making a point they don't descriminate against them as it is seen to be wrong. But they will take your releigon and politics into account. The fact that you link homosexuality with pedophiles is abhorrent. So basically you are saying that they shouldn't have or look after kids? People are not penalized for their religious _iews, social services actively seek out foster parents from all backgrounds for obvious reasons. would a Jewish child best interests best be served by placing them with a Sikh family? No of course not, that's not discrimination and no reflection of the potential foster parents. Ss for politics, I suspect that extreme politics, either left or right would be a huge no. And quite rightly so. I suspect that an awful lot more will come out about this, at the moment their appears to be just the one story, from the parents perspective in a paper that would be politically supportive. I feel sorry for social workers. Always the scapegoat and invariably blameed whatever they do. " | |||
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" snip Social services had to make a decision and in this case were proactive rather than in some tragic recent cases apathetic. Looking at it cold heartedly I think probably the best decision was made all round. " No. On the information most of us have available - this was an unjustified decision. Or at least - the reasons they seem to have given are unjustified. UKIP is not the BNP | |||
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" As for the Three children taken away that should never have happened, they were settled and loved and that's all those children need, not some bloody pen pusher deciding their lives for them !! (Perky)" No disrespect, but as I said before, we don't know the circumstances they are in care. They may not be in care under court orders, they could be voluntarily accommodated; and if that's the case & the parent(s) wanted them moved because of their _iews (& the threat was made to remove them from care), children's service wouldn't have had much of a choice. I also don't find your comment about 'pen pushers' very relevant to your argument & it would be quite offensive to social workers | |||
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"As a member of UKIP I'm disgusted. Nigel Farage had it right when he called this "a bloody outrage." UKIP has a black candidate in a forthcoming by-election and is as racially diverse as any mainstream party. The woman responsible was inter_iewed on the BBC Radio 4 'Today' programme this morning. Complacent, politically correct and arrogant - there are too many of these types in positions of authority in the public services, imposing their extreme left-wing politics on the rest of us. It has to stop." I look forward to Monday morning on LBC radio in the London area (Sky 0112 if anyone wants to pick it up anywhere else), to hear Nick Ferrari and then James O'Brien on this subject... If Ferrari's inter_iews with a number of people in similar positions of 'authority' of late are anything to go by, it could be bonfire night all over again.. And as for Jo'B - I just can't wait. He was adopted and God help anyone who thinks they know what a child in care needs better than the child! But at the end of the day, I feel sorry for the three kids involved who must be wondering what the hell is going on.... Pork | |||
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"I bet they would prefer if the Foster Parents were child abusers, peodo's and gay Not sure that being gay is quite the same as being a child abuser or a peadophile, but hey ho, every day is a school day on Fab !" | |||
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"I think before everyone starts jumping up and down, taking sides & labelling all social workers as biased / judgemental or other things, we need to realise that not everything will have been disclosed in the article- simply because they can't publish ANY details which may potentially identify a child in care. We don't know the ages of the children, nor the circumstances of why they were taken into care. The foster carers _iews could have been very relevant to the direct therapeutic care of the children. Social workers don't like taking children into care & don't make decisions about moving them 8 weeks into a placement easily. " Well said! | |||
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"Social workers dont like taking children into care? Well they seem to be doing a lot of that over the years. My brothers son had a severe case of nappy rash and because his mum has a string of minor offences, nothing to do with children mind you, the social services became extremely keen on investigating my brother, his GF and my parents. The fuck? Here in Sheffield they have hundreds of posters and advert campaigns with the tag line "please adopt". Not a chance in hell will I adopt with those people looking over my shoulder." the thing is in a job like social work you'll never get it right If as child dies they're not doing their job right and it was their fault for not investigating properly If they go see a child and get it wrong and there child is ok they're still not doing their job right Social workers dont have some op that makes them super human, we all make mistakes and if going to 10 houses and getting it wrong means one child that does need help is found then so be it ive had them at my house, because im bi and i have 3 daughters someone reported me because they didnt think it was right a bi sexual woman should be looking after little girls, that just how some peoples minds work, so i had social services out questioning me about who i have at my house and if i have women round while my kids were in etc, nothing came of it as i hadnt done anything wrong and my kids was nor have they ever been in any danger at all, i didnt blame social services tho because they was just doing their job and till they came out they didnt know everything was ok like they didnt know you nephew was ok till they looked into itm they're just doing a job and we all get it wrong sometimes | |||
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"Social workers dont like taking children into care? Well they seem to be doing a lot of that over the years. My brothers son had a severe case of nappy rash and because his mum has a string of minor offences, nothing to do with children mind you, the social services became extremely keen on investigating my brother, his GF and my parents. The fuck? Here in Sheffield they have hundreds of posters and advert campaigns with the tag line "please adopt". Not a chance in hell will I adopt with those people looking over my shoulder." Good. Personally I wouldn't want to see children adopted by someone who cannot make his point without uttering profanities. | |||
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"so I actually went to the UKIP website last night to have a read and actually it was very informative...... " So did I Fabio, and it's been updated considerably from the last time I looked at it. As for the specifics of the justification by Rotherham Social Services as to why they took the children away from them ('UKIP want to see Europeans kicked out, etc) there is no mention of any of that in their policies. True, they state that their intention is to 'withdraw from Europe to regain control of our borders' - well, okay, that may be draconian, but it is NOT racist. Every country on the planet needs to control it's borders in some way. What UKIP are banging on about is the EU open borders agreement and how that has affected this country - hence their _iew that we need to 'regain control'. | |||
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"And for reasons like this when qualify in 6 months as a social worker there's no way i will be going near child services.Most social workers beg not to be put in child services as it has been proven within 4 yrs you will have a nervous breakdown as so much goes on behind the scenes that the public never hear about,Social work is the hardest job ever and we are all tied and bound by rules,policies and procedures and I bet you will find the social workers involved did not agree with the decision but due to legality had to do it." social work is not the hardest job ever - its one of them but think of the foster carers too - social workers get to go home at 5 pm ........... when does the foster carer go home? | |||
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"Thin end of the wedge, one of these days we will be reading that the authorities have taken children away from BNP supporters, or muslim families because of the parents political beliefs. Anyone remember the 50's, when they removed children and sent them to Canada, Australia and points beyond?" oh yes, and there but for the grace of God go I. Feel for all on this one, the kids, the foster parents, social services and the biological parents, what a mess. | |||
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"Social workers dont like taking children into care? Well they seem to be doing a lot of that over the years. My brothers son had a severe case of nappy rash and because his mum has a string of minor offences, nothing to do with children mind you, the social services became extremely keen on investigating my brother, his GF and my parents. The fuck? Here in Sheffield they have hundreds of posters and advert campaigns with the tag line "please adopt". Not a chance in hell will I adopt with those people looking over my shoulder. the thing is in a job like social work you'll never get it right If as child dies they're not doing their job right and it was their fault for not investigating properly If they go see a child and get it wrong and there child is ok they're still not doing their job right Social workers dont have some op that makes them super human, we all make mistakes and if going to 10 houses and getting it wrong means one child that does need help is found then so be it ive had them at my house, because im bi and i have 3 daughters someone reported me because they didnt think it was right a bi sexual woman should be looking after little girls, that just how some peoples minds work, so i had social services out questioning me about who i have at my house and if i have women round while my kids were in etc, nothing came of it as i hadnt done anything wrong and my kids was nor have they ever been in any danger at all, i didnt blame social services tho because they was just doing their job and till they came out they didnt know everything was ok like they didnt know you nephew was ok till they looked into itm they're just doing a job and we all get it wrong sometimes" No they threatened to take both my nephew and niece if they didn't get a satisfactory answer. Also you have stated they came round to have 'a chat' regarding your bisexuality and 3 little girls. If that was me then I would have gone ape shit. Not only would they get both barrels but I would have found out who made the call. So being bi or gay makes people pedophiles now? Well that seems to run true for a lot of idiots but its a whole different thing when an institution sends people to investigate you for it. I cant imagine lots of gay couples in San Francisco having that sort of treatment unless it was a religious organisation. | |||
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"Social workers dont like taking children into care? Well they seem to be doing a lot of that over the years. My brothers son had a severe case of nappy rash and because his mum has a string of minor offences, nothing to do with children mind you, the social services became extremely keen on investigating my brother, his GF and my parents. The fuck? Here in Sheffield they have hundreds of posters and advert campaigns with the tag line "please adopt". Not a chance in hell will I adopt with those people looking over my shoulder. Good. Personally I wouldn't want to see children adopted by someone who cannot make his point without uttering profanities." Keep it to yourself snowflake, I know a fair bit about how to bring up kids and you don't know anything about me. Oh wait a minute, I forgot I didn't give a damn about your opinion. | |||
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"This is so so wrong UkIP isn't BNP , and even if it was when did social services start bringing politics into foster caring! " You think it would be OK placing a troubled child from an ethnic background with a BNP supporter...really?!! | |||
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"Just saw this on breakfast. Words fail me. People's political _iews don't effect their ability to raise children, they were obviously deemed suitable otherwise they wouldn't have been allowed to foster in the first place, how has that changed now the the local social services have found that they're UKIP supporters? Oh yeah, their local council is Labour....Figures." just another typical labour run farce as far as i can see,they are better even at running a farce than brian rix in his hey day. | |||
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"This is so so wrong UkIP isn't BNP , and even if it was when did social services start bringing politics into foster caring! You think it would be OK placing a troubled child from an ethnic background with a BNP supporter...really?!! " Your question is moot. Do you really think a BNP supporter would take an ethnic minority? | |||
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"I think the local elections that are due in Rotherham might be interesting as will how long the person who made the decision stays in their job afterwards. " Be really interesting to see the turnout and the voting figures after the result is announced... | |||
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"I think the local elections that are due in Rotherham might be interesting as will how long the person who made the decision stays in their job afterwards. Be really interesting to see the turnout and the voting figures after the result is announced... " It will be smoke screened well before then. | |||
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"I think the local elections that are due in Rotherham might be interesting as will how long the person who made the decision stays in their job afterwards. Be really interesting to see the turnout and the voting figures after the result is announced... It will be smoke screened well before then." Probably, but time will tell... and as it's this coming Thursday it will still be fresh in people's minds... but we'll see... | |||
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"It's all political propaganda because the other parties will know that UKIP will be popular if they promise to take us out of the euro considering the other parties continue to dither about it. They're just trying to paint UKIP as the BNP which they clearly aren't. " .......... not yet, perhaps, but they're trying hard. | |||
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