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"Cameron should tell them to fuck off." He won't though being the spineless Hooray-Henry that he is..... | |||
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"Is the amount the Euro Pres, Herman Van Rompuy, wants for the next 7-year Euro budget. And here's what he wants it for: ~ Cohesion: €309.5bn Funding for countries and regions that are economically lagging behind other member states. Includes the European Social Fund. ~ Competitiveness and Growth: €152.6bn Supports research and development, promotes sustainable energy and tries to improve training. ~ Common Agricultural Policy: €270bn Aid for farmers around the EU - helps maintain rural communities. ~ Administration: €62.6bn Funds EU institutions. Pays pensions to former EU staff and provides schools for the children of EU staff. ~ Rural development and fisheries: €94.5bn Helps to diversify economic activities in rural areas. Funds also given to environmental projects and support for fishing communities. ~ EU as a global player: €18.3bn Includes providing development aid to non-EU countries and assisting countries that want to join. ~ It's the bit about providing schools for the children of EU staff that's got me puzzled. Does this small army of bureaucrats relocate their entire families to Brussels and it costs BILLIONS to educate them? It sure seems like someone's getting backhanders somewhere along the way and it's being accounted for by paying £500 for a hammer or £300 for a box of nails. Cameron should tell them to fuck off.So the answer is we become a little independent Island of no real stategic importance? The OECD estimated that 1m jobs in the UK could be put at risk by a unilateral withdrawal from the EU. Surely its better to stay in and fight for change? Also the traty of Rome prohibits armed conflict between member states.....1914 and 1939.......just a thought! " | |||
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"Well he must have said something as it's being reported that it's looking likely that an agreement won't be reached. Quite how that works I'm not sure of as Euroland has to have a budget ratified one way or another." Pity they're not so keen to have their accounts ratified.... | |||
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"So the answer is we become a little independent Island of no real stategic importance? The OECD estimated that 1m jobs in the UK could be put at risk by a unilateral withdrawal from the EU. Surely its better to stay in and fight for change? Also the traty of Rome prohibits armed conflict between member states.....1914 and 1939.......just a thought! " No, I'm not advocating armed conflict but I think we run a dangerous risk of thinking it won't ever happen again. All it would take is a number of smaller member states to feel that the bigger ones (ie Germany) are pushing their weight around a little too much a little too often and to 'stabilise' the Euro the big boys would start pushing a bit harder. Hypothetically. I'm never fully trusting that a treaty will be honoured for the simple reason that we've had treaties torn up and replaced before. My reference to Cameron telling them to fuck off was tongue in cheek, but with a serious sentiment behind it - I personally believe we should tell Europe how much we're going to give, and not be told by them how much we have to give. | |||
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"whew I thought that was the running total of McAlpines compo" I bet there's a few Twits sweating like a blind lesbian in a fish shop about how much they might have to cough up. | |||
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"...I think we run a dangerous risk of thinking it won't ever happen again. All it would take is a number of smaller member states to feel that the bigger ones (ie Germany) are pushing their weight around a little too much a little too often... ...I'm never fully trusting that a treaty will be honoured for the simple reason that we've had treaties torn up and replaced before. " | |||
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