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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Should he be playing whilst under investigation for sexual assault?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All the other players have been either arrested or kept out of the public eye

Mendy, Greenwood, Sigurdsson…

Yet he seems to be getting away with it?

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

I think so yes. Until he's found guilty in a court of law.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think so yes. Until he's found guilty in a court of law. "

Greenwood still hasn’t been found guilty.

I am in no way saying he should be playing but why would it be different for him?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"All the other players have been either arrested or kept out of the public eye

Mendy, Greenwood, Sigurdsson…

Yet he seems to be getting away with it? "

I was shocked to see his name on the team sheet. Especially after all the stuff on social media in the last few weeks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My thinking is if it is still in the stage of an accusation and still being investigated unless there is potential for somebody to still be a risk they should be able to carry on with their job until found guilty.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"My thinking is if it is still in the stage of an accusation and still being investigated unless there is potential for somebody to still be a risk they should be able to carry on with their job until found guilty. "

I don’t necessarily disagree but why is it different for some players?

Gylfi Sigurdsson and Mason Greenwood have never been seen again yet Thomas Partey and even Adam Johnson were allowed to continue.

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

"I think so yes. Until he's found guilty in a court of law.

Greenwood still hasn’t been found guilty.

I am in no way saying he should be playing but why would it be different for him?"

Yeah I mean, with him you had the recording. His employer decided that's enough for them and suspended him and that's fair enough, that was their decision.

It is a difficult one because with multiple allegations it makes it likely that TP did something, allegedly, but with nothing yet proven, I can see why his club didn't suspend him.

It's murky.

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By *rwhowhatwherewhyMan
over a year ago

Aylesbury

He should be put against a wall and shot. I assume he's a footballer which is criminal enough

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don’t necessarily disagree but why is it different for some players?

Gylfi Sigurdsson and Mason Greenwood have never been seen again yet Thomas Partey and even Adam Johnson were allowed to continue."

Do we know if the circumstances were similar? Also do we know if it was the clubs that chose not to employ them or them that decided to remove themselves from the public eye.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a gamble, there will be backlash and kickoffs, which may force the club's hand for the next game.

Moyes played that bloke who kicked the cat, everyone kicked off and he was dropped

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think so yes. Until he's found guilty in a court of law.

Greenwood still hasn’t been found guilty.

I am in no way saying he should be playing but why would it be different for him?

Yeah I mean, with him you had the recording. His employer decided that's enough for them and suspended him and that's fair enough, that was their decision.

It is a difficult one because with multiple allegations it makes it likely that TP did something, allegedly, but with nothing yet proven, I can see why his club didn't suspend him.

It's murky. "

The Premier League are now giving mandatory sexual consent training to all the players. I know they have to save face and look like they’re doing something but surely this is ridiculous.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think so yes. Until he's found guilty in a court of law.

Greenwood still hasn’t been found guilty.

I am in no way saying he should be playing but why would it be different for him?

Yeah I mean, with him you had the recording. His employer decided that's enough for them and suspended him and that's fair enough, that was their decision.

It is a difficult one because with multiple allegations it makes it likely that TP did something, allegedly, but with nothing yet proven, I can see why his club didn't suspend him.

It's murky.

The Premier League are now giving mandatory sexual consent training to all the players. I know they have to save face and look like they’re doing something but surely this is ridiculous."

I don't think it is ridiculous because there have been a lot of cases.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I don’t necessarily disagree but why is it different for some players?

Gylfi Sigurdsson and Mason Greenwood have never been seen again yet Thomas Partey and even Adam Johnson were allowed to continue.

Do we know if the circumstances were similar? Also do we know if it was the clubs that chose not to employ them or them that decided to remove themselves from the public eye. "

I don’t think we’ll ever know the answers to that but as far as I know Gylfi Sigurdsson hasn’t even been charged, he was just arrested on suspicion.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think so yes. Until he's found guilty in a court of law.

Greenwood still hasn’t been found guilty.

I am in no way saying he should be playing but why would it be different for him?

Yeah I mean, with him you had the recording. His employer decided that's enough for them and suspended him and that's fair enough, that was their decision.

It is a difficult one because with multiple allegations it makes it likely that TP did something, allegedly, but with nothing yet proven, I can see why his club didn't suspend him.

It's murky.

The Premier League are now giving mandatory sexual consent training to all the players. I know they have to save face and look like they’re doing something but surely this is ridiculous.

I don't think it is ridiculous because there have been a lot of cases. "

I mean ridiculous in the fact that adults need to be trained to understand no means no.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think so yes. Until he's found guilty in a court of law.

Greenwood still hasn’t been found guilty.

I am in no way saying he should be playing but why would it be different for him?

Yeah I mean, with him you had the recording. His employer decided that's enough for them and suspended him and that's fair enough, that was their decision.

It is a difficult one because with multiple allegations it makes it likely that TP did something, allegedly, but with nothing yet proven, I can see why his club didn't suspend him.

It's murky.

The Premier League are now giving mandatory sexual consent training to all the players. I know they have to save face and look like they’re doing something but surely this is ridiculous.

I don't think it is ridiculous because there have been a lot of cases.

I mean ridiculous in the fact that adults need to be trained to understand no means no. "

I agree it’s ridiculous that it’s got to the point they’ve had to do training. Like most human, they think money = power.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don’t necessarily disagree but why is it different for some players?

Gylfi Sigurdsson and Mason Greenwood have never been seen again yet Thomas Partey and even Adam Johnson were allowed to continue.

Do we know if the circumstances were similar? Also do we know if it was the clubs that chose not to employ them or them that decided to remove themselves from the public eye.

I don’t think we’ll ever know the answers to that but as far as I know Gylfi Sigurdsson hasn’t even been charged, he was just arrested on suspicion."

Greenwood has definitely been suspended and I imagine the others have too. Surprised that Arsenal haven't done the same but that's their choice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think so yes. Until he's found guilty in a court of law.

Greenwood still hasn’t been found guilty.

I am in no way saying he should be playing but why would it be different for him?

Yeah I mean, with him you had the recording. His employer decided that's enough for them and suspended him and that's fair enough, that was their decision.

It is a difficult one because with multiple allegations it makes it likely that TP did something, allegedly, but with nothing yet proven, I can see why his club didn't suspend him.

It's murky.

The Premier League are now giving mandatory sexual consent training to all the players. I know they have to save face and look like they’re doing something but surely this is ridiculous.

I don't think it is ridiculous because there have been a lot of cases.

I mean ridiculous in the fact that adults need to be trained to understand no means no. "

Unfortunately some do though and there is the cup of tea campaign.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I don’t necessarily disagree but why is it different for some players?

Gylfi Sigurdsson and Mason Greenwood have never been seen again yet Thomas Partey and even Adam Johnson were allowed to continue.

Do we know if the circumstances were similar? Also do we know if it was the clubs that chose not to employ them or them that decided to remove themselves from the public eye.

I don’t think we’ll ever know the answers to that but as far as I know Gylfi Sigurdsson hasn’t even been charged, he was just arrested on suspicion.

Greenwood has definitely been suspended and I imagine the others have too. Surprised that Arsenal haven't done the same but that's their choice."

They’ve even had him on the poster for the new shirt which I think is a massive error of judgement. IF he is guilty that will look really bad.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think so yes. Until he's found guilty in a court of law.

Greenwood still hasn’t been found guilty.

I am in no way saying he should be playing but why would it be different for him?

Yeah I mean, with him you had the recording. His employer decided that's enough for them and suspended him and that's fair enough, that was their decision.

It is a difficult one because with multiple allegations it makes it likely that TP did something, allegedly, but with nothing yet proven, I can see why his club didn't suspend him.

It's murky.

The Premier League are now giving mandatory sexual consent training to all the players. I know they have to save face and look like they’re doing something but surely this is ridiculous.

I don't think it is ridiculous because there have been a lot of cases.

I mean ridiculous in the fact that adults need to be trained to understand no means no.

Unfortunately some do though and there is the cup of tea campaign. "

Obviously there isn’t really a solution to this. If someone wants to do something like that they will but surely the Premier League should take a tougher stance.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don’t necessarily disagree but why is it different for some players?

Gylfi Sigurdsson and Mason Greenwood have never been seen again yet Thomas Partey and even Adam Johnson were allowed to continue.

Do we know if the circumstances were similar? Also do we know if it was the clubs that chose not to employ them or them that decided to remove themselves from the public eye.

I don’t think we’ll ever know the answers to that but as far as I know Gylfi Sigurdsson hasn’t even been charged, he was just arrested on suspicion.

Greenwood has definitely been suspended and I imagine the others have too. Surprised that Arsenal haven't done the same but that's their choice.

They’ve even had him on the poster for the new shirt which I think is a massive error of judgement. IF he is guilty that will look really bad."

I've just found an article that says the CPS didn't pursue it due to lack of evidence.

So that probably explains it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I don’t necessarily disagree but why is it different for some players?

Gylfi Sigurdsson and Mason Greenwood have never been seen again yet Thomas Partey and even Adam Johnson were allowed to continue.

Do we know if the circumstances were similar? Also do we know if it was the clubs that chose not to employ them or them that decided to remove themselves from the public eye.

I don’t think we’ll ever know the answers to that but as far as I know Gylfi Sigurdsson hasn’t even been charged, he was just arrested on suspicion.

Greenwood has definitely been suspended and I imagine the others have too. Surprised that Arsenal haven't done the same but that's their choice.

They’ve even had him on the poster for the new shirt which I think is a massive error of judgement. IF he is guilty that will look really bad.

I've just found an article that says the CPS didn't pursue it due to lack of evidence.

So that probably explains it."

That’s probably why the girl has been posting all the messages on Twitter.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don’t necessarily disagree but why is it different for some players?

Gylfi Sigurdsson and Mason Greenwood have never been seen again yet Thomas Partey and even Adam Johnson were allowed to continue.

Do we know if the circumstances were similar? Also do we know if it was the clubs that chose not to employ them or them that decided to remove themselves from the public eye.

I don’t think we’ll ever know the answers to that but as far as I know Gylfi Sigurdsson hasn’t even been charged, he was just arrested on suspicion.

Greenwood has definitely been suspended and I imagine the others have too. Surprised that Arsenal haven't done the same but that's their choice.

They’ve even had him on the poster for the new shirt which I think is a massive error of judgement. IF he is guilty that will look really bad.

I've just found an article that says the CPS didn't pursue it due to lack of evidence.

So that probably explains it.

That’s probably why the girl has been posting all the messages on Twitter."

Think there are other accusations but not in the UK. Sounds like he hasn't been charged in any other country at the moment which is why Arsenal have deemed him suitable to play.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I don’t necessarily disagree but why is it different for some players?

Gylfi Sigurdsson and Mason Greenwood have never been seen again yet Thomas Partey and even Adam Johnson were allowed to continue.

Do we know if the circumstances were similar? Also do we know if it was the clubs that chose not to employ them or them that decided to remove themselves from the public eye.

I don’t think we’ll ever know the answers to that but as far as I know Gylfi Sigurdsson hasn’t even been charged, he was just arrested on suspicion.

Greenwood has definitely been suspended and I imagine the others have too. Surprised that Arsenal haven't done the same but that's their choice.

They’ve even had him on the poster for the new shirt which I think is a massive error of judgement. IF he is guilty that will look really bad.

I've just found an article that says the CPS didn't pursue it due to lack of evidence.

So that probably explains it.

That’s probably why the girl has been posting all the messages on Twitter.

Think there are other accusations but not in the UK. Sounds like he hasn't been charged in any other country at the moment which is why Arsenal have deemed him suitable to play."

One of her tweets said a law had been changed recently and that’s why he hasn’t been prosecuted in the UK. It’s his long term girlfriend who he was supposed to be marrying.

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By *hoirCouple
over a year ago

Clacton/Bury St. Edmunds

I don't think it is ridiculous because there have been a lot of cases. "

How many convictions?

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

I don’t believe any names should be released until found guilty or not guilty it’s quite disturbing how people are named before they have even been up at trial I’ve never been comfortable with it to be honest

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don’t believe any names should be released until found guilty or not guilty it’s quite disturbing how people are named before they have even been up at trial I’ve never been comfortable with it to be honest"

It's a really tricky one. There have been some people for example have come forward particularly with historic cases because others have and then it has resulted in that person's conviction.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think it is ridiculous because there have been a lot of cases.

How many convictions?

It doesn't matter how many convictions there have been. I don't think it's a bad thing making sure everybody understands what consent actually means.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

The police didn’t release his name. His ex did after he got off with it on a technicality.

(I didn’t know this when I made this thread)

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

It's a really tricky one. There have been some people for example have come forward particularly with historic cases because others have and then it has resulted in that person's conviction. "
good point I’ve never actually looked at it that way to be honest kinda makes sense i suppose

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a really tricky one. There have been some people for example have come forward particularly with historic cases because others have and then it has resulted in that person's conviction. good point I’ve never actually looked at it that way to be honest kinda makes sense i suppose "

Like I said above it is a very tricky situation but as has also been mentioned often it wouldn't matter if the police or courts didn't release people's names because social media will.

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

It's a really tricky one. There have been some people for example have come forward particularly with historic cases because others have and then it has resulted in that person's conviction. good point I’ve never actually looked at it that way to be honest kinda makes sense i suppose

Like I said above it is a very tricky situation but as has also been mentioned often it wouldn't matter if the police or courts didn't release people's names because social media will. "
in one way as you say it could bring out historical stuff but it could also ruin someone’s life if proved innocent even being proven innocent people will always have a doubt as you said it’s very tricky in regards to football players especially young rich footballers the clubs should be sitting them down and talking to them

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over a year ago

It's a really tricky one. There have been some people for example have come forward particularly with historic cases because others have and then it has resulted in that person's conviction. good point I’ve never actually looked at it that way to be honest kinda makes sense i suppose

Like I said above it is a very tricky situation but as has also been mentioned often it wouldn't matter if the police or courts didn't release people's names because social media will. in one way as you say it could bring out historical stuff but it could also ruin someone’s life if proved innocent even being proven innocent people will always have a doubt as you said it’s very tricky in regards to football players especially young rich footballers the clubs should be sitting them down and talking to them "

Agreed and I really don't know what be answer to this is. I suppose possibly we could have a system where if accused you cannot be named, however if it is seen in the public's interest you could be named after being charged. I just don't know to be honest.

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