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When was the last time someone was charged with treason in the UK?

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By *heNerdyFemby OP   Woman
over a year ago

Eastbourne (she/they)

Today, the answer is today.

A man allegedly found with a crossbow in the grounds of Windsor Castle on Christmas Day has been charged under the Treason Act.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-62396574

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

When I heard this.. all I could think off was " off with his head " from Alice in wonderland

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By *heNerdyFemby OP   Woman
over a year ago

Eastbourne (she/they)


"When I heard this.. all I could think off was " off with his head " from Alice in wonderland "

Apparently the sentence for the section that applies is up to 7 years in prison and public flogging (seriously)

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By *ilverjagMan
over a year ago

swansea


"When I heard this.. all I could think off was " off with his head " from Alice in wonderland

Apparently the sentence for the section that applies is up to 7 years in prison and public flogging (seriously)"

I don't know if it's still the case and the law has changed, but certainly long after murder ceased to be a capital offence, treason was still a hanging offence. There was three crimes that were still punishable by death, and I'm sure that treason was one of them.

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By *heNerdyFemby OP   Woman
over a year ago

Eastbourne (she/they)


"When I heard this.. all I could think off was " off with his head " from Alice in wonderland

Apparently the sentence for the section that applies is up to 7 years in prison and public flogging (seriously)

I don't know if it's still the case and the law has changed, but certainly long after murder ceased to be a capital offence, treason was still a hanging offence. There was three crimes that were still punishable by death, and I'm sure that treason was one of them."

I think you are right, but they would be in another part of the Treason Act. I think it is for crimes that are deemed "High Treason"

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By *hoirCouple
over a year ago

Clacton/Bury St. Edmunds


"Today, the answer is today.

A man allegedly found with a crossbow in the grounds of Windsor Castle on Christmas Day has been charged under the Treason Act.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-62396574"

Hopefully it changes tomorrow as well as someone finally arrests Tony Blair.

C

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Treason a very interesting subject.

Queen Elizabeth for example. Coronated in 1953. The first coronation ever to be broadcast live. By the BBC. Traditionally a royal coronation must take place on the stone of destiny. Something we know wasn't present as it was missing at the time. Then their was the oath that the Queen took. To rule the land upholding the laws of God..these laws are in black and white in the bible. So technically each time she gave assent to a political statute she committed treason.

Am I wrong or is our Queen treasonous

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By *hoirCouple
over a year ago

Clacton/Bury St. Edmunds


"Treason a very interesting subject.

Queen Elizabeth for example. Coronated in 1953. The first coronation ever to be broadcast live. By the BBC. Traditionally a royal coronation must take place on the stone of destiny. Something we know wasn't present as it was missing at the time. Then their was the oath that the Queen took. To rule the land upholding the laws of God..these laws are in black and white in the bible. So technically each time she gave assent to a political statute she committed treason.

Am I wrong or is our Queen treasonous "

You are wrong.

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By *heNerdyFemby OP   Woman
over a year ago

Eastbourne (she/they)


"Treason a very interesting subject.

Queen Elizabeth for example. Coronated in 1953. The first coronation ever to be broadcast live. By the BBC. Traditionally a royal coronation must take place on the stone of destiny. Something we know wasn't present as it was missing at the time. Then their was the oath that the Queen took. To rule the land upholding the laws of God..these laws are in black and white in the bible. So technically each time she gave assent to a political statute she committed treason.

Am I wrong or is our Queen treasonous "

Well she does have Sovereign Immunity so The Queen can't be arrested or be the subject of civil and criminal proceedings, meaning she is effectively exempt from the law.

So there is that!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Treason a very interesting subject.

Queen Elizabeth for example. Coronated in 1953. The first coronation ever to be broadcast live. By the BBC. Traditionally a royal coronation must take place on the stone of destiny. Something we know wasn't present as it was missing at the time. Then their was the oath that the Queen took. To rule the land upholding the laws of God..these laws are in black and white in the bible. So technically each time she gave assent to a political statute she committed treason.

Am I wrong or is our Queen treasonous

You are wrong. "

Can you please explain how?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Treason a very interesting subject.

Queen Elizabeth for example. Coronated in 1953. The first coronation ever to be broadcast live. By the BBC. Traditionally a royal coronation must take place on the stone of destiny. Something we know wasn't present as it was missing at the time. Then their was the oath that the Queen took. To rule the land upholding the laws of God..these laws are in black and white in the bible. So technically each time she gave assent to a political statute she committed treason.

Am I wrong or is our Queen treasonous

Well she does have Sovereign Immunity so The Queen can't be arrested or be the subject of civil and criminal proceedings, meaning she is effectively exempt from the law.

So there is that!"

I fully understand this. But do we think this is acceptable in today's society. Any for of immunity should be outlawed. Don't you agree. Look at diplomatic immunity for example. It's a horrible rule that allows people to do as they wish and not be held accountable. Look at Prince Andrew. Do we think for a second if he wasn't who he was he'd not be in a cell by now??

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By *heNerdyFemby OP   Woman
over a year ago

Eastbourne (she/they)


"Treason a very interesting subject.

Queen Elizabeth for example. Coronated in 1953. The first coronation ever to be broadcast live. By the BBC. Traditionally a royal coronation must take place on the stone of destiny. Something we know wasn't present as it was missing at the time. Then their was the oath that the Queen took. To rule the land upholding the laws of God..these laws are in black and white in the bible. So technically each time she gave assent to a political statute she committed treason.

Am I wrong or is our Queen treasonous

Well she does have Sovereign Immunity so The Queen can't be arrested or be the subject of civil and criminal proceedings, meaning she is effectively exempt from the law.

So there is that!

I fully understand this. But do we think this is acceptable in today's society. Any for of immunity should be outlawed. Don't you agree. Look at diplomatic immunity for example. It's a horrible rule that allows people to do as they wish and not be held accountable. Look at Prince Andrew. Do we think for a second if he wasn't who he was he'd not be in a cell by now??"

Well Andrew is different in that he is not immune to any of it, not by law.

He is just like any other incredibly rich CisHet White Dude. One law for them one law for the rest of us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Treason a very interesting subject.

Queen Elizabeth for example. Coronated in 1953. The first coronation ever to be broadcast live. By the BBC. Traditionally a royal coronation must take place on the stone of destiny. Something we know wasn't present as it was missing at the time. Then their was the oath that the Queen took. To rule the land upholding the laws of God..these laws are in black and white in the bible. So technically each time she gave assent to a political statute she committed treason.

Am I wrong or is our Queen treasonous

Well she does have Sovereign Immunity so The Queen can't be arrested or be the subject of civil and criminal proceedings, meaning she is effectively exempt from the law.

So there is that!

I fully understand this. But do we think this is acceptable in today's society. Any for of immunity should be outlawed. Don't you agree. Look at diplomatic immunity for example. It's a horrible rule that allows people to do as they wish and not be held accountable. Look at Prince Andrew. Do we think for a second if he wasn't who he was he'd not be in a cell by now??

Well Andrew is different in that he is not immune to any of it, not by law.

He is just like any other incredibly rich CisHet White Dude. One law for them one law for the rest of us."

Cis white males have a different law to the rest of "US". What a load of codswallop.

Any form of immunity should be abolished.

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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago

South Wales

He was only 20 I believe. He must have been in a sad place if he woke up on Christmas Day and thought to himself “stuff Christmas, me and my Crossbow are off to see the Queen”.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To answer the question, the last person charged with treason was in 1981, a lad who fired six blank shots at Trooping the Colour. The last person to be tried for treason was Lord Haw Haw (William Joyce) - he was hung in 1946.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Treason a very interesting subject.

Queen Elizabeth for example. Coronated in 1953. The first coronation ever to be broadcast live. By the BBC. Traditionally a royal coronation must take place on the stone of destiny. Something we know wasn't present as it was missing at the time. Then their was the oath that the Queen took. To rule the land upholding the laws of God..these laws are in black and white in the bible. So technically each time she gave assent to a political statute she committed treason.

Am I wrong or is our Queen treasonous "

I imagine that the royal family have fleets of lawyers at their disposal to avoid any real legal problems.

However, I'm also sure there are lots of internet lawyers making up absolute nonsense about the royals and everyone else. See, for example, the idiots who tried to seize Edinburgh castle last year.

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By *heNerdyFemby OP   Woman
over a year ago

Eastbourne (she/they)


"Cis white males have a different law to the rest of "US". What a load of codswallop.

Any form of immunity should be abolished. "

I said "incredibly rich CisHet White Dude"

but if you want to truncate it for outrage farming I guess you can do that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When I heard this.. all I could think off was " off with his head " from Alice in wonderland

Apparently the sentence for the section that applies is up to 7 years in prison and public flogging (seriously)"

now begins queues of women from womens prison found outside the queens house tooled up hoping for a good public flogging

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Treason a very interesting subject.

Queen Elizabeth for example. Coronated in 1953. The first coronation ever to be broadcast live. By the BBC. Traditionally a royal coronation must take place on the stone of destiny. Something we know wasn't present as it was missing at the time. Then their was the oath that the Queen took. To rule the land upholding the laws of God..these laws are in black and white in the bible. So technically each time she gave assent to a political statute she committed treason.

Am I wrong or is our Queen treasonous

You are wrong.

Can you please explain how? "

Romans 13 v 1

Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.

Therefore any political statute she gives assent to is effectively endorsed by God.

...

...

Assuming you believe this stuff.

Mr

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By *adyJayneWoman
over a year ago

Burnleyish (She/They)


"Treason a very interesting subject.

Queen Elizabeth for example. Coronated in 1953. The first coronation ever to be broadcast live. By the BBC. Traditionally a royal coronation must take place on the stone of destiny. Something we know wasn't present as it was missing at the time. Then their was the oath that the Queen took. To rule the land upholding the laws of God..these laws are in black and white in the bible. So technically each time she gave assent to a political statute she committed treason.

Am I wrong or is our Queen treasonous "

A quick Google would tell me that the stone was indeed present under the coronation chair for the queen's coronation.

Giving royal assent to a statue is not worshiping that statue and creating a idol.

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon


"Treason a very interesting subject.

Queen Elizabeth for example. Coronated in 1953. The first coronation ever to be broadcast live. By the BBC. Traditionally a royal coronation must take place on the stone of destiny. Something we know wasn't present as it was missing at the time. Then their was the oath that the Queen took. To rule the land upholding the laws of God..these laws are in black and white in the bible. So technically each time she gave assent to a political statute she committed treason.

Am I wrong or is our Queen treasonous

Well she does have Sovereign Immunity so The Queen can't be arrested or be the subject of civil and criminal proceedings, meaning she is effectively exempt from the law.

So there is that!"

Just as well as she is a right saucy minx. If palace walls could talk!

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By *host63Man
over a year ago

Bedfont Feltham


"Today, the answer is today.

A man allegedly found with a crossbow in the grounds of Windsor Castle on Christmas Day has been charged under the Treason Act.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-62396574

Hopefully it changes tomorrow as well as someone finally arrests Tony Blair.

C"

Perhaps yiu shoukd charge JOHNSON he is highly likely to have given state information to Lebidev and allowed interference on electio s by the KGB specially regarding brexit which is the most treasonous act of self harm a country has committed on itself since Germany elected Hitler in 1933.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Treason a very interesting subject.

Queen Elizabeth for example. Coronated in 1953. The first coronation ever to be broadcast live. By the BBC. Traditionally a royal coronation must take place on the stone of destiny. Something we know wasn't present as it was missing at the time. Then their was the oath that the Queen took. To rule the land upholding the laws of God..these laws are in black and white in the bible. So technically each time she gave assent to a political statute she committed treason.

Am I wrong or is our Queen treasonous

A quick Google would tell me that the stone was indeed present under the coronation chair for the queen's coronation.

Giving royal assent to a statue is not worshiping that statue and creating a idol. "

I think you have confused satute and statue.

Mr

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By *ehind closed curtainsCouple
over a year ago

East Midlands

The Queen is exempt from prosecution as you can't have a case of Regina Vs Regina

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When I heard this.. all I could think off was " off with his head " from Alice in wonderland

Apparently the sentence for the section that applies is up to 7 years in prison and public flogging (seriously)

I don't know if it's still the case and the law has changed, but certainly long after murder ceased to be a capital offence, treason was still a hanging offence. There was three crimes that were still punishable by death, and I'm sure that treason was one of them."

It was treason, Arsen in her majesty's Dock yards and Piracy with violence.

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By *inda May SimmonsTV/TS
over a year ago

hexham

Boris Johnson could possibly be charged with treason !

Now that would be fun

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

I'm shocked Tom missed this riveting news story !!

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By *heNerdyFemby OP   Woman
over a year ago

Eastbourne (she/they)


"I'm shocked Tom missed this riveting news story !!"

I just happened to see a Tik Tok about it about 5 hours after the news broke.

Pretty sure Tom would have had some spin on it at some point in the next couple of days if I hadn't!

It wasn't all over the news yet when I saw it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm shocked Tom missed this riveting news story !!

I just happened to see a Tik Tok about it about 5 hours after the news broke.

Pretty sure Tom would have had some spin on it at some point in the next couple of days if I hadn't!

It wasn't all over the news yet when I saw it!"

It's been all over the news since yesterday when it first broke.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hang the bastard. Treason still carries the death penalty

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hang the bastard. Treason still carries the death penalty"

No it doesn't because that law was abolished in 1998.

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By *adyJayneWoman
over a year ago

Burnleyish (She/They)


"Treason a very interesting subject.

Queen Elizabeth for example. Coronated in 1953. The first coronation ever to be broadcast live. By the BBC. Traditionally a royal coronation must take place on the stone of destiny. Something we know wasn't present as it was missing at the time. Then their was the oath that the Queen took. To rule the land upholding the laws of God..these laws are in black and white in the bible. So technically each time she gave assent to a political statute she committed treason.

Am I wrong or is our Queen treasonous

A quick Google would tell me that the stone was indeed present under the coronation chair for the queen's coronation.

Giving royal assent to a statue is not worshiping that statue and creating a idol.

I think you have confused satute and statue.

Mr"

Yep thanks. Dyslexia strikes again

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hang the bastard. Treason still carries the death penalty

No it doesn't because that law was abolished in 1998."

I stand corrected. Should still hang the twat anyway

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By *heNerdyFemby OP   Woman
over a year ago

Eastbourne (she/they)


"Hang the bastard. Treason still carries the death penalty

No it doesn't because that law was abolished in 1998."

Do you mean the specific clause or the law? Cos that would make it even stranger if they are trying to charge him under the treason act when it has been abolished!

I mean stranger things have happened!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Today, the answer is today.

A man allegedly found with a crossbow in the grounds of Windsor Castle on Christmas Day has been charged under the Treason Act.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-62396574

Hopefully it changes tomorrow as well as someone finally arrests Tony Blair.

C"

Agreed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hang the bastard. Treason still carries the death penalty

No it doesn't because that law was abolished in 1998.

I stand corrected. Should still hang the twat anyway"

Well that would be against the law and I don't think I'm in favour of state sanctioned killing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hang the bastard. Treason still carries the death penalty

No it doesn't because that law was abolished in 1998.

I stand corrected. Should still hang the twat anyway

Well that would be against the law and I don't think I'm in favour of state sanctioned killing. "

In todays climate alot of people get away with too much. Come down hard and attempt to cure stupidity

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hang the bastard. Treason still carries the death penalty

No it doesn't because that law was abolished in 1998.

I stand corrected. Should still hang the twat anyway

Well that would be against the law and I don't think I'm in favour of state sanctioned killing.

In todays climate alot of people get away with too much. Come down hard and attempt to cure stupidity"

p

Because all the evidence from countries that have the death penalty shows that it works ever so well eh? If we're doing it to clamp down on stupidity ....

Mr

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By *heNerdyFemby OP   Woman
over a year ago

Eastbourne (she/they)


"Hang the bastard. Treason still carries the death penalty

No it doesn't because that law was abolished in 1998.

I stand corrected. Should still hang the twat anyway

Well that would be against the law and I don't think I'm in favour of state sanctioned killing.

In todays climate alot of people get away with too much. Come down hard and attempt to cure stupidityp

Because all the evidence from countries that have the death penalty shows that it works ever so well eh? If we're doing it to clamp down on stupidity ....

Mr"

I don't think they have thought it through...

If we introduced the death penalty to clamp down on stupidity.

What is to stop people from defining those who support a method of punishment that is provably more expensive and could kill innocent people as stupid?

Or ANY other group?

Is stupidity based on common sense? IQ? Political Belief?

Even if the death penalty worked (which data suggests it doesn't) it would be a really bad motive for it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Treason a very interesting subject.

Queen Elizabeth for example. Coronated in 1953. The first coronation ever to be broadcast live. By the BBC. Traditionally a royal coronation must take place on the stone of destiny. Something we know wasn't present as it was missing at the time. Then their was the oath that the Queen took. To rule the land upholding the laws of God..these laws are in black and white in the bible. So technically each time she gave assent to a political statute she committed treason.

Am I wrong or is our Queen treasonous

I imagine that the royal family have fleets of lawyers at their disposal to avoid any real legal problems.

However, I'm also sure there are lots of internet lawyers making up absolute nonsense about the royals and everyone else. See, for example, the idiots who tried to seize Edinburgh castle last year."

I do agree with the Internet lawyer comment. But that doesn't address the fact of immunity. NO-ONE Should be above the law purely for their stature within society. Surely everyone will agree here??

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