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"When I first read the topic title I thought the skirt was being executed "
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"When I first read the topic title I thought the skirt was being executed
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i’d have nothing to wear...!"I was thinking "what's a skirt done to justify being executed?!" | |||
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"A person is being killed, people are allowed to watch and a skirt and shoes are deemed unsuitable for an audience member to wear to witness the killing. That is seriously fucked up." It reminds me of the gladiator spectacles in Roman times. The usually profoundly Christian states who perform these executions would do well to remember who got fed to the lions for Roman entertainment. If they need reminding - the word martyr derives from the ancient Greek word for "witness". | |||
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"A person is being killed, people are allowed to watch and a skirt and shoes are deemed unsuitable for an audience member to wear to witness the killing. That is seriously fucked up." Well said | |||
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"A person is being killed, people are allowed to watch and a skirt and shoes are deemed unsuitable for an audience member to wear to witness the killing. That is seriously fucked up. It reminds me of the gladiator spectacles in Roman times. The usually profoundly Christian states who perform these executions would do well to remember who got fed to the lions for Roman entertainment. If they need reminding - the word martyr derives from the ancient Greek word for "witness". " It's the thought that it's perfectly ok to kill someone in front of an audience, let's not dignify it with the word witness but there's a dress code. Incredible! Truly incredible in the actual meaning of the word. | |||
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"A person is being killed, people are allowed to watch and a skirt and shoes are deemed unsuitable for an audience member to wear to witness the killing. That is seriously fucked up. It reminds me of the gladiator spectacles in Roman times. The usually profoundly Christian states who perform these executions would do well to remember who got fed to the lions for Roman entertainment. If they need reminding - the word martyr derives from the ancient Greek word for "witness". It's the thought that it's perfectly ok to kill someone in front of an audience, let's not dignify it with the word witness but there's a dress code. Incredible! Truly incredible in the actual meaning of the word." God no. I mean, those who witnessed for Christ got fed to the lions in Roman times, becoming martyrs. You'd think that might stop them creating their own death spectacle, but apparently not. | |||
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"A person is being killed, people are allowed to watch and a skirt and shoes are deemed unsuitable for an audience member to wear to witness the killing. That is seriously fucked up. It reminds me of the gladiator spectacles in Roman times. The usually profoundly Christian states who perform these executions would do well to remember who got fed to the lions for Roman entertainment. If they need reminding - the word martyr derives from the ancient Greek word for "witness". It's the thought that it's perfectly ok to kill someone in front of an audience, let's not dignify it with the word witness but there's a dress code. Incredible! Truly incredible in the actual meaning of the word. God no. I mean, those who witnessed for Christ got fed to the lions in Roman times, becoming martyrs. You'd think that might stop them creating their own death spectacle, but apparently not." Humans eh! | |||
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"A person is being killed, people are allowed to watch and a skirt and shoes are deemed unsuitable for an audience member to wear to witness the killing. That is seriously fucked up. It reminds me of the gladiator spectacles in Roman times. The usually profoundly Christian states who perform these executions would do well to remember who got fed to the lions for Roman entertainment. If they need reminding - the word martyr derives from the ancient Greek word for "witness". It's the thought that it's perfectly ok to kill someone in front of an audience, let's not dignify it with the word witness but there's a dress code. Incredible! Truly incredible in the actual meaning of the word." This is the same state where abortion is illegal with no exemption for cases of r@pe or in-cest | |||
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"talk about bizarre Rule, would mean i have to go out and buy a new skirt/dress...! " No, you'd just have to lower your skirt below the knee ..always a loop hole  | |||
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"A person is being killed, people are allowed to watch and a skirt and shoes are deemed unsuitable for an audience member to wear to witness the killing. That is seriously fucked up. It reminds me of the gladiator spectacles in Roman times. The usually profoundly Christian states who perform these executions would do well to remember who got fed to the lions for Roman entertainment. If they need reminding - the word martyr derives from the ancient Greek word for "witness". It's the thought that it's perfectly ok to kill someone in front of an audience, let's not dignify it with the word witness but there's a dress code. Incredible! Truly incredible in the actual meaning of the word. This is the same state where abortion is illegal with no exemption " I'm sure Jesus would be unamused. At least any Jesus recognisable from the Bible | |||
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"A person is being killed, people are allowed to watch and a skirt and shoes are deemed unsuitable for an audience member to wear to witness the killing. That is seriously fucked up." | |||
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"A person is being killed, people are allowed to watch and a skirt and shoes are deemed unsuitable for an audience member to wear to witness the killing. That is seriously fucked up. It reminds me of the gladiator spectacles in Roman times. The usually profoundly Christian states who perform these executions would do well to remember who got fed to the lions for Roman entertainment. If they need reminding - the word martyr derives from the ancient Greek word for "witness". It's the thought that it's perfectly ok to kill someone in front of an audience, let's not dignify it with the word witness but there's a dress code. Incredible! Truly incredible in the actual meaning of the word. This is the same state where abortion is illegal with no exemption for cases of r@pe or in-cest " This is the same state where a republican politician has put forward for voting a law to bring the death penalty for a woman attempting to get an abortion. Can't end an unwanted pregnancy even if it would kill the mother, but it's okay for the state to kill the mother and unborn child. Still, I suppose at one time we did have the death penalty as punishment for attempted suicide... | |||
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"A journalist in Alabama which is a place in America was refused entry to witness the execution of a prisoner because he skirt was too high and her shoes deemed unsuitable. Rules state that skirts must be below the knee. It's all over the news. " Where do you find this shit Tom? | |||
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"Leaving aside my disgust at the death penalty and the questionable practice of allowing journalists to watch, what is a defensible dress code? Would we be equally outraged if a topless male journalist had been told to cover up? We had a thread recently where the consensus was that a man being topless in a supermarket was inappropriate. Why then are we upset that a short skirt at an execution is considered the same? Like I said, this ignores the issues around having a death penalty but that isn't what the thread is about. I think some of the attitudes on here are a little strange. There were some very definite views about what a man should or shouldn't be allowed to wear while buying his tomatoes yet the same people deny the exact same sense of decorum to others? For what it's worth I don't believe the death penalty is the right solution for a civilised society and I certainly don't believe that it should be witnessed by journalists. However, if these things are going to happen I do believe that like any other aspect of human life there will always be ways of dressing that are deemed appropriate and I believe the people of Alabama have a much right as a society to decide what these are as we do to decide what is or isn't appropriate in Sainsbury. Mr" My problem isn't with the dress code itself. I wouldn't expect someone to be admitted wearing a clowns outfit either. I'm just incredulous at the whole situation. I wonder if anyone took their knitting... | |||
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"A person is being killed, people are allowed to watch and a skirt and shoes are deemed unsuitable for an audience member to wear to witness the killing. That is seriously fucked up. It reminds me of the gladiator spectacles in Roman times. The usually profoundly Christian states who perform these executions would do well to remember who got fed to the lions for Roman entertainment. If they need reminding - the word martyr derives from the ancient Greek word for "witness". It's the thought that it's perfectly ok to kill someone in front of an audience, let's not dignify it with the word witness but there's a dress code. Incredible! Truly incredible in the actual meaning of the word. This is the same state where abortion is illegal with no exemption for cases of r@pe or in-cest This is the same state where a republican politician has put forward for voting a law to bring the death penalty for a woman attempting to get an abortion. Can't end an unwanted pregnancy even if it would kill the mother, but it's okay for the state to kill the mother and unborn child. Still, I suppose at one time we did have the death penalty as punishment for attempted suicide..." They will be resurrecting that next. Along with banning same sex marriage, 'interracial marriage' and women being allowed to work for a wage. | |||
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"A person is being killed, people are allowed to watch and a skirt and shoes are deemed unsuitable for an audience member to wear to witness the killing. That is seriously fucked up. It reminds me of the gladiator spectacles in Roman times. The usually profoundly Christian states who perform these executions would do well to remember who got fed to the lions for Roman entertainment. If they need reminding - the word martyr derives from the ancient Greek word for "witness". It's the thought that it's perfectly ok to kill someone in front of an audience, let's not dignify it with the word witness but there's a dress code. Incredible! Truly incredible in the actual meaning of the word. This is the same state where abortion is illegal with no exemption for cases of r@pe or in-cest This is the same state where a republican politician has put forward for voting a law to bring the death penalty for a woman attempting to get an abortion. Can't end an unwanted pregnancy even if it would kill the mother, but it's okay for the state to kill the mother and unborn child. Still, I suppose at one time we did have the death penalty as punishment for attempted suicide..." I wouldn't be surprised if they imprisoned her until the birth of her baby and then executed her  | |||
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"A person is being killed, people are allowed to watch and a skirt and shoes are deemed unsuitable for an audience member to wear to witness the killing. That is seriously fucked up. It reminds me of the gladiator spectacles in Roman times. The usually profoundly Christian states who perform these executions would do well to remember who got fed to the lions for Roman entertainment. If they need reminding - the word martyr derives from the ancient Greek word for "witness". It's the thought that it's perfectly ok to kill someone in front of an audience, let's not dignify it with the word witness but there's a dress code. Incredible! Truly incredible in the actual meaning of the word. This is the same state where abortion is illegal with no exemption for cases of r@pe or in-cest This is the same state where a republican politician has put forward for voting a law to bring the death penalty for a woman attempting to get an abortion. Can't end an unwanted pregnancy even if it would kill the mother, but it's okay for the state to kill the mother and unborn child. Still, I suppose at one time we did have the death penalty as punishment for attempted suicide... I wouldn't be surprised if they imprisoned her until the birth of her baby and then executed her "Not pro life, pro forced birth | |||
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"A person is being killed, people are allowed to watch and a skirt and shoes are deemed unsuitable for an audience member to wear to witness the killing. That is seriously fucked up. It reminds me of the gladiator spectacles in Roman times. The usually profoundly Christian states who perform these executions would do well to remember who got fed to the lions for Roman entertainment. If they need reminding - the word martyr derives from the ancient Greek word for "witness". It's the thought that it's perfectly ok to kill someone in front of an audience, let's not dignify it with the word witness but there's a dress code. Incredible! Truly incredible in the actual meaning of the word. This is the same state where abortion is illegal with no exemption for cases of r@pe or in-cest This is the same state where a republican politician has put forward for voting a law to bring the death penalty for a woman attempting to get an abortion. Can't end an unwanted pregnancy even if it would kill the mother, but it's okay for the state to kill the mother and unborn child. Still, I suppose at one time we did have the death penalty as punishment for attempted suicide..." The depravity of some peoples thinking.. | |||
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" My problem isn't with the dress code itself. I wouldn't expect someone to be admitted wearing a clowns outfit either. I'm just incredulous at the whole situation. I wonder if anyone took their knitting..." Exactly. It just seems strange to me that when we are discussing a situation where a man is legally being killed and this is considered appropriate journalistic content and the debate is around the length of a skirt in the audience. I'm sure most would agree with the clown suit, the top less man or even a woman dressed in micro skirt and stockings with her stocking tops and suspenders on full show. People being people with the inevitable variation in what they deem as acceptable or not I totally understand that there are rules around dress codes for certain places/activities. I just think it is strange that we all have endless justification for what *we* think is or isn't appropriate but get upset when others draw the line in a different place - and not only that but get upset to the point that the discussion is around whether it not it is right to enforce a dress code rule at an execution as though somehow doing this makes everything else worse. We all have opinions on what is and isn't acceptable atire in a range of situations. We all have opinions on which situations it is appropriate for another person to enforce those rules. None of our opinions are any more valid than anyone else's. I simply don't understand how you can defend a security guard enforcing a tops must be worn policy in a supermarket but get bothered by an unnamed authority enforcing a rule stating skirts must be below the knee at an execution. That rule and its enforcement has absolutely zero to do with the morality of executing a person or allowing the act to be journalistic grist. Mr | |||
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"A journalist in Alabama which is a place in America was refused entry to witness the execution of a prisoner because he skirt was too high and her shoes deemed unsuitable. Rules state that skirts must be below the knee. It's all over the news. " But not over her knees | |||
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"Sweet home alabama." Where the skies are so blue! | |||
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"A journalist in Alabama which is a place in America was refused entry to witness the execution of a prisoner because he skirt was too high and her shoes deemed unsuitable. Rules state that skirts must be below the knee. It's all over the news. ....as an American can I just ad....the hell you on about boyyyee???? "  | |||
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"Did you check the Alabama Times?" I'm not sure they're on the Internet yet. They're what you might call "retro" | |||
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"Leaving aside my disgust at the death penalty and the questionable practice of allowing journalists to watch, what is a defensible dress code? Would we be equally outraged if a topless male journalist had been told to cover up? We had a thread recently where the consensus was that a man being topless in a supermarket was inappropriate. Why then are we upset that a short skirt at an execution is considered the same? Like I said, this ignores the issues around having a death penalty but that isn't what the thread is about. I think some of the attitudes on here are a little strange. There were some very definite views about what a man should or shouldn't be allowed to wear while buying his tomatoes yet the same people deny the exact same sense of decorum to others? For what it's worth I don't believe the death penalty is the right solution for a civilised society and I certainly don't believe that it should be witnessed by journalists. However, if these things are going to happen I do believe that like any other aspect of human life there will always be ways of dressing that are deemed appropriate and I believe the people of Alabama have a much right as a society to decide what these are as we do to decide what is or isn't appropriate in Sainsbury. Mr" Some people will take any opportunity possible to bash conservatives states in america. Its rather pathetic to be honest. Im sure they'll manage to crowbar trump in at some point too | |||
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"A person is being killed, people are allowed to watch and a skirt and shoes are deemed unsuitable for an audience member to wear to witness the killing. That is seriously fucked up. It reminds me of the gladiator spectacles in Roman times. The usually profoundly Christian states who perform these executions would do well to remember who got fed to the lions for Roman entertainment. If they need reminding - the word martyr derives from the ancient Greek word for "witness". It's the thought that it's perfectly ok to kill someone in front of an audience, let's not dignify it with the word witness but there's a dress code. Incredible! Truly incredible in the actual meaning of the word. This is the same state where abortion is illegal with no exemption for cases of r@pe or in-cest This is the same state where a republican politician has put forward for voting a law to bring the death penalty for a woman attempting to get an abortion. Can't end an unwanted pregnancy even if it would kill the mother, but it's okay for the state to kill the mother and unborn child. Still, I suppose at one time we did have the death penalty as punishment for attempted suicide..." I am amazed that some of these crazy politicians don’t get slotted faster in places like this | |||
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"Death penalty I have a problem with… whether its worthy of journalistic attention …. Another issue. Whether a dress code is appropriate…. Like moving the chairs on the titanic ….but people will focus on that rather than the issue of killing someone for revenge… leaves me feeling a bit sick " Hard agree. | |||
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"This story tells a lot about America, and it tells a lot about the role the media plays in modern life. They're focused on the length of a skirt. Meanwhile a person is being executed. " Indeed. I'm glad most of us have focused on the barbarism, not the side show. | |||
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"Does anyone know what crime the man committed? " They guy had shot his girlfriend  | |||
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"Does anyone know what crime the man committed? " Being black in alabammy? | |||
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"Does anyone know what crime the man committed? Being black in alabammy? " Alabama has one of the highest population of black people per capita of any states in the US | |||
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"“I have worn this skirt to prior executions without incident, to work, professional events and more and I believe it is more than appropriate. At 5'10? with my heels on, I am a tall and long-legged person,” she said on Twitter. Hrynkiw, an award-winning journalist, has attended and witnessed seven executions. Hrynkiw said she tried to lower her skirt at the hip in an attempt to comply with Betts, but that didn’t satisfy the prison official. In order to witness the execution for reporting purposes, she had to borrow a pair of Columbia PFG fisherman’s waders from a local television photographer. The fishing gear was deemed appropriate attire." Couldn't make this up. Has the whiff of monty python about it. " It's a good thing that the morality of a premeditated state killing is upheld by not seeing someone's knees. | |||
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"“I have worn this skirt to prior executions without incident, to work, professional events and more and I believe it is more than appropriate. At 5'10? with my heels on, I am a tall and long-legged person,” she said on Twitter. Hrynkiw, an award-winning journalist, has attended and witnessed seven executions. Hrynkiw said she tried to lower her skirt at the hip in an attempt to comply with Betts, but that didn’t satisfy the prison official. In order to witness the execution for reporting purposes, she had to borrow a pair of Columbia PFG fisherman’s waders from a local television photographer. The fishing gear was deemed appropriate attire." Couldn't make this up. Has the whiff of monty python about it. It's a good thing that the morality of a premeditated state killing is upheld by not seeing someone's knees." What's worse is its not reported that it was delayed for 3 hours while they couldn't get an iv line in him. | |||
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"“I have worn this skirt to prior executions without incident, to work, professional events and more and I believe it is more than appropriate. At 5'10? with my heels on, I am a tall and long-legged person,” she said on Twitter. Hrynkiw, an award-winning journalist, has attended and witnessed seven executions. Hrynkiw said she tried to lower her skirt at the hip in an attempt to comply with Betts, but that didn’t satisfy the prison official. In order to witness the execution for reporting purposes, she had to borrow a pair of Columbia PFG fisherman’s waders from a local television photographer. The fishing gear was deemed appropriate attire." Couldn't make this up. Has the whiff of monty python about it. It's a good thing that the morality of a premeditated state killing is upheld by not seeing someone's knees. What's worse is its not reported that it was delayed for 3 hours while they couldn't get an iv line in him. "  | |||
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"Does anyone know what crime the man committed? " He took and tortured people as young as 3 yrs old with another man. Who also rpd his victims so deserved what he got | |||
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"Does anyone know what crime the man committed? He took and tortured people as young as 3 yrs old with another man. Who also rpd his victims so deserved what he got" Nevermind that, people in here would rather wet the bed over the dress code at his execution | |||
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"Does anyone know what crime the man committed? He took and tortured people as young as 3 yrs old with another man. Who also rpd his victims so deserved what he got Nevermind that, people in here would rather wet the bed over the dress code at his execution" Wet the bed or discuss? | |||
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"Does anyone know what crime the man committed? He took and tortured people as young as 3 yrs old with another man. Who also rpd his victims so deserved what he got Nevermind that, people in here would rather wet the bed over the dress code at his execution Wet the bed or discuss? " Wet the bed | |||
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"Does anyone know what crime the man committed? He took and tortured people as young as 3 yrs old with another man. Who also rpd his victims so deserved what he got Nevermind that, people in here would rather wet the bed over the dress code at his execution" As far as I can see, most of us are discussing the immorality of execution. I don't care if she was absolutely starkers. | |||
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"Does anyone know what crime the man committed? He took and tortured people as young as 3 yrs old with another man. Who also rpd his victims so deserved what he got Nevermind that, people in here would rather wet the bed over the dress code at his execution" I think you've missed the point. No one cares what someone wore the the execution. This is a good example of how the media works, what they direct people attention to. The more interesting debate is the suitability of the death penalty as a judicial punishment or about the role the media plays in modern life. | |||
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"Does anyone know what crime the man committed? He took and tortured people as young as 3 yrs old with another man. Who also rpd his victims so deserved what he got Nevermind that, people in here would rather wet the bed over the dress code at his execution I think you've missed the point. No one cares what someone wore the the execution. This is a good example of how the media works, what they direct people attention to. The more interesting debate is the suitability of the death penalty as a judicial punishment or about the role the media plays in modern life." Maybe start a thread on that then. Tom prefers to debate the dress code. It's an interesting twist on an old theme. Some places in America have stopped allowing the death row prisoners picking their last meal. Tom read an interesting book about which prisoner chose which meal. A relevation really... | |||
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"Does anyone know what crime the man committed? He took and tortured people as young as 3 yrs old with another man. Who also rpd his victims so deserved what he got Nevermind that, people in here would rather wet the bed over the dress code at his execution I think you've missed the point. No one cares what someone wore the the execution. This is a good example of how the media works, what they direct people attention to. The more interesting debate is the suitability of the death penalty as a judicial punishment or about the role the media plays in modern life. Maybe start a thread on that then. Tom prefers to debate the dress code. It's an interesting twist on an old theme. Some places in America have stopped allowing the death row prisoners picking their last meal. Tom read an interesting book about which prisoner chose which meal. A relevation really... "
Excellent example of how the media can misdirect people. Thank you. | |||
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"Does anyone know what crime the man committed? He took and tortured people as young as 3 yrs old with another man. Who also rpd his victims so deserved what he got Nevermind that, people in here would rather wet the bed over the dress code at his execution I think you've missed the point. No one cares what someone wore the the execution. This is a good example of how the media works, what they direct people attention to. The more interesting debate is the suitability of the death penalty as a judicial punishment or about the role the media plays in modern life." Yes. Or perhaps the normalisation of violence, the justification of violence. Does this correlate with the Second Amendment? Then contrast this with the scandal. Horror. Outrage. Of seeing... You won't believe it. Knees! 
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"Does anyone know what crime the man committed? He took and tortured people as young as 3 yrs old with another man. Who also rpd his victims so deserved what he got Nevermind that, people in here would rather wet the bed over the dress code at his execution I think you've missed the point. No one cares what someone wore the the execution. This is a good example of how the media works, what they direct people attention to. The more interesting debate is the suitability of the death penalty as a judicial punishment or about the role the media plays in modern life. Yes. Or perhaps the normalisation of violence, the justification of violence. Does this correlate with the Second Amendment? Then contrast this with the scandal. Horror. Outrage. Of seeing... You won't believe it. Knees!
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"Does anyone know what crime the man committed? He took and tortured people as young as 3 yrs old with another man. Who also rpd his victims so deserved what he got Nevermind that, people in here would rather wet the bed over the dress code at his execution I think you've missed the point. No one cares what someone wore the the execution. This is a good example of how the media works, what they direct people attention to. The more interesting debate is the suitability of the death penalty as a judicial punishment or about the role the media plays in modern life. Yes. Or perhaps the normalisation of violence, the justification of violence. Does this correlate with the Second Amendment? Then contrast this with the scandal. Horror. Outrage. Of seeing... You won't believe it. Knees!
What are the cultural issues that lead to such a strange juxtaposition?"It's not the normalisation of violence. It's a sentence handed down by the court.. it's legal in the same way that there are instances where our security forces are empowered to kill | |||
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"Does anyone know what crime the man committed? He took and tortured people as young as 3 yrs old with another man. Who also rpd his victims so deserved what he got Nevermind that, people in here would rather wet the bed over the dress code at his execution I think you've missed the point. No one cares what someone wore the the execution. This is a good example of how the media works, what they direct people attention to. The more interesting debate is the suitability of the death penalty as a judicial punishment or about the role the media plays in modern life. Yes. Or perhaps the normalisation of violence, the justification of violence. Does this correlate with the Second Amendment? Then contrast this with the scandal. Horror. Outrage. Of seeing... You won't believe it. Knees!
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It's not the normalisation of violence. It's a sentence handed down by the court.. it's legal in the same way that there are instances where our security forces are empowered to kill"So killing a person isn't a violent act? In English history people were hanged, drawn and quartered. Have you read a description of what that entails? It's pretty grotesque. But obviously not violent, because it was legal.  the more you know | |||
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What are the cultural issues that lead to such a strange juxtaposition?
Theres obviously a dress code applying. Whats your big issue with it?
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Theres obviously a dress code applying. Whats your big issue with it?
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I don't give a shit about the dress code.
I care about the barbarism and brutality of the death penalty.
And the barbarism and brutality of the executed who preyed on children. I expect you could rehabilitate him..
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Theres obviously a dress code applying. Whats your big issue with it?
I don't give a shit about the dress code.
I care about the barbarism and brutality of the death penalty.
And the barbarism and brutality of the executed who preyed on children. I expect you could rehabilitate him..
Maybe..."The sheer existence of the death penalty will result in innocent people dying. You can bring up any other fact you want to but this fact will remain true. In order to be ok with the death penalty you have to be ok with the idea of killing innocent people. | |||
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"Does anyone know what crime the man committed? He took and tortured people as young as 3 yrs old with another man. Who also rpd his victims so deserved what he got Nevermind that, people in here would rather wet the bed over the dress code at his execution I think you've missed the point. No one cares what someone wore the the execution. This is a good example of how the media works, what they direct people attention to. The more interesting debate is the suitability of the death penalty as a judicial punishment or about the role the media plays in modern life. Yes. Or perhaps the normalisation of violence, the justification of violence. Does this correlate with the Second Amendment? Then contrast this with the scandal. Horror. Outrage. Of seeing... You won't believe it. Knees!
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Theres obviously a dress code applying. Whats your big issue with it?
I don't give a shit about the dress code.
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And the barbarism and brutality of the executed who preyed on children. I expect you could rehabilitate him..
Maybe...
The sheer existence of the death penalty will result in innocent people dying.
You can bring up any other fact you want to but this fact will remain true.
In order to be ok with the death penalty you have to be ok with the idea of killing innocent people."I expect that governments uphold exemplary moral standards. (well. I know they won't, I believe we should hold them to such standards) State execution is cold, premeditated murder. We threw away "I was just following orders" and the idea that legality trumps morality at Nuremberg. | |||
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"“I have worn this skirt to prior executions without incident, to work, professional events and more and I believe it is more than appropriate. At 5'10? with my heels on, I am a tall and long-legged person,” she said on Twitter. Hrynkiw, an award-winning journalist, has attended and witnessed seven executions. Hrynkiw said she tried to lower her skirt at the hip in an attempt to comply with Betts, but that didn’t satisfy the prison official. In order to witness the execution for reporting purposes, she had to borrow a pair of Columbia PFG fisherman’s waders from a local television photographer. The fishing gear was deemed appropriate attire." Couldn't make this up. Has the whiff of monty python about it. It's a good thing that the morality of a premeditated state killing is upheld by not seeing someone's knees." I do understand where you're coming from but I disagree. You appear to be implying that because a person who believes executing certain criminals is morally the right thing to do is so obviously wrong, any opinion they have on other lesser moral issues is laughable - or at least worthy of sarcasm. How far do you take this? Do you say 'you (wrongly) consider the death penalty ok so you shouldn't have speeding laws?' Drink driving laws? How serious does a moral infringement have to be before someone who condones the death penalty is considered by you to be reasonable in their opinion when condemning a lesser issue? I share your view that the death penalty is wrong. What I don't share is the opinion that anyone who disagrees with this is automatically either immoral or amoral and that any morals they consider themselves to have are laughable. I get that the main thrust of what you have said on this thread is against the death penalty but you've also said you don't care if the woman was naked and made the sarcastic comment I've replied to above. I'm sure that you do have an opinion on naked people in public settings buy in this instance you feel the dress code pales into insignificance in comparison to the death penalty. If however - like some of the people of Alabama - you believe the death penalty is justified then why would you not want to impose a dress code you deem appropriate? My biggest issue with this thread is that it demonstrates that many of the people opposed to the death penalty don't believe that those who aren't have morals, or at the least that any morals they have are suitable targets for ridicule. That seems to me to be a crazy way to be if you hope to convince people to change. Mr | |||
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"Does anyone know what crime the man committed? He took and tortured people as young as 3 yrs old with another man. Who also rpd his victims so deserved what he got Nevermind that, people in here would rather wet the bed over the dress code at his execution I think you've missed the point. No one cares what someone wore the the execution. This is a good example of how the media works, what they direct people attention to. The more interesting debate is the suitability of the death penalty as a judicial punishment or about the role the media plays in modern life. Yes. Or perhaps the normalisation of violence, the justification of violence. Does this correlate with the Second Amendment? Then contrast this with the scandal. Horror. Outrage. Of seeing... You won't believe it. Knees!
What are the cultural issues that lead to such a strange juxtaposition?
Theres obviously a dress code applying. Whats your big issue with it?
I don't give a shit about the dress code.
I care about the barbarism and brutality of the death penalty.
And the barbarism and brutality of the executed who preyed on children. I expect you could rehabilitate him..
Maybe...
The sheer existence of the death penalty will result in innocent people dying.
You can bring up any other fact you want to but this fact will remain true.
In order to be ok with the death penalty you have to be ok with the idea of killing innocent people."Well so many people have no issue with it in relation to an unborn child. Why should they care about a violent criminal? | |||
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"Does anyone know what crime the man committed? He took and tortured people as young as 3 yrs old with another man. Who also rpd his victims so deserved what he got Nevermind that, people in here would rather wet the bed over the dress code at his execution I think you've missed the point. No one cares what someone wore the the execution. This is a good example of how the media works, what they direct people attention to. The more interesting debate is the suitability of the death penalty as a judicial punishment or about the role the media plays in modern life. Yes. Or perhaps the normalisation of violence, the justification of violence. Does this correlate with the Second Amendment? Then contrast this with the scandal. Horror. Outrage. Of seeing... You won't believe it. Knees!
What are the cultural issues that lead to such a strange juxtaposition?
Theres obviously a dress code applying. Whats your big issue with it?
I don't give a shit about the dress code.
I care about the barbarism and brutality of the death penalty.
And the barbarism and brutality of the executed who preyed on children. I expect you could rehabilitate him..
Maybe...
The sheer existence of the death penalty will result in innocent people dying.
You can bring up any other fact you want to but this fact will remain true.
In order to be ok with the death penalty you have to be ok with the idea of killing innocent people."And whos killing innocent people? What are you on about? | |||
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"Does anyone know what crime the man committed? He took and tortured people as young as 3 yrs old with another man. Who also rpd his victims so deserved what he got Nevermind that, people in here would rather wet the bed over the dress code at his execution I think you've missed the point. No one cares what someone wore the the execution. This is a good example of how the media works, what they direct people attention to. The more interesting debate is the suitability of the death penalty as a judicial punishment or about the role the media plays in modern life. Yes. Or perhaps the normalisation of violence, the justification of violence. Does this correlate with the Second Amendment? Then contrast this with the scandal. Horror. Outrage. Of seeing... You won't believe it. Knees!
What are the cultural issues that lead to such a strange juxtaposition?
Theres obviously a dress code applying. Whats your big issue with it?
I don't give a shit about the dress code.
I care about the barbarism and brutality of the death penalty.
And the barbarism and brutality of the executed who preyed on children. I expect you could rehabilitate him..
Maybe...
The sheer existence of the death penalty will result in innocent people dying.
You can bring up any other fact you want to but this fact will remain true.
In order to be ok with the death penalty you have to be ok with the idea of killing innocent people.
And whos killing innocent people? What are you on about? "About 10% of people lawfully executed in the states are later found not guilty. It's probably more, as most can't appeal their sentence. For obvious reasons. | |||
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"Does anyone know what crime the man committed? He took and tortured people as young as 3 yrs old with another man. Who also rpd his victims so deserved what he got Nevermind that, people in here would rather wet the bed over the dress code at his execution I think you've missed the point. No one cares what someone wore the the execution. This is a good example of how the media works, what they direct people attention to. The more interesting debate is the suitability of the death penalty as a judicial punishment or about the role the media plays in modern life. Yes. Or perhaps the normalisation of violence, the justification of violence. Does this correlate with the Second Amendment? Then contrast this with the scandal. Horror. Outrage. Of seeing... You won't believe it. Knees!
What are the cultural issues that lead to such a strange juxtaposition?
Theres obviously a dress code applying. Whats your big issue with it?
I don't give a shit about the dress code.
I care about the barbarism and brutality of the death penalty.
And the barbarism and brutality of the executed who preyed on children. I expect you could rehabilitate him..
Maybe...
The sheer existence of the death penalty will result in innocent people dying.
You can bring up any other fact you want to but this fact will remain true.
In order to be ok with the death penalty you have to be ok with the idea of killing innocent people.
And whos killing innocent people? What are you on about?
About 10% of people lawfully executed in the states are later found not guilty.
It's probably more, as most can't appeal their sentence. For obvious reasons. "Yes a miscarriage of justice is absolutely heinous whenever it occurs. No doubt about that | |||
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" The sheer existence of the death penalty will result in innocent people dying. You can bring up any other fact you want to but this fact will remain true. In order to be ok with the death penalty you have to be ok with the idea of killing innocent people." Tbf, we bombed the living shit out of 10's of thousands of innocent people 70 odd years ago but any suggestion that the men responsible for this war crime are anything other than national heroes to be unconditionally worshiped for securing our freedom tends to be treated with disgust. Mr | |||
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" The sheer existence of the death penalty will result in innocent people dying. You can bring up any other fact you want to but this fact will remain true. In order to be ok with the death penalty you have to be ok with the idea of killing innocent people. Tbf, we bombed the living shit out of 10's of thousands of innocent people 70 odd years ago but any suggestion that the men responsible for this war crime are anything other than national heroes to be unconditionally worshiped for securing our freedom tends to be treated with disgust. Mr" Well neither are right would be my argument, but that may just be me! | |||
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"“I have worn this skirt to prior executions without incident, to work, professional events and more and I believe it is more than appropriate. At 5'10? with my heels on, I am a tall and long-legged person,” she said on Twitter. Hrynkiw, an award-winning journalist, has attended and witnessed seven executions. Hrynkiw said she tried to lower her skirt at the hip in an attempt to comply with Betts, but that didn’t satisfy the prison official. In order to witness the execution for reporting purposes, she had to borrow a pair of Columbia PFG fisherman’s waders from a local television photographer. The fishing gear was deemed appropriate attire." Couldn't make this up. Has the whiff of monty python about it. It's a good thing that the morality of a premeditated state killing is upheld by not seeing someone's knees. I do understand where you're coming from but I disagree. You appear to be implying that because a person who believes executing certain criminals is morally the right thing to do is so obviously wrong, any opinion they have on other lesser moral issues is laughable - or at least worthy of sarcasm. How far do you take this? Do you say 'you (wrongly) consider the death penalty ok so you shouldn't have speeding laws?' Drink driving laws? How serious does a moral infringement have to be before someone who condones the death penalty is considered by you to be reasonable in their opinion when condemning a lesser issue? I share your view that the death penalty is wrong. What I don't share is the opinion that anyone who disagrees with this is automatically either immoral or amoral and that any morals they consider themselves to have are laughable. I get that the main thrust of what you have said on this thread is against the death penalty but you've also said you don't care if the woman was naked and made the sarcastic comment I've replied to above. I'm sure that you do have an opinion on naked people in public settings buy in this instance you feel the dress code pales into insignificance in comparison to the death penalty. If however - like some of the people of Alabama - you believe the death penalty is justified then why would you not want to impose a dress code you deem appropriate? My biggest issue with this thread is that it demonstrates that many of the people opposed to the death penalty don't believe that those who aren't have morals, or at the least that any morals they have are suitable targets for ridicule. That seems to me to be a crazy way to be if you hope to convince people to change. Mr" I see no issue with a dress code. I find it laughable that a dress code is news in the face of an execution. Who said I'm trying to convince anyone to change? | |||
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" The sheer existence of the death penalty will result in innocent people dying. You can bring up any other fact you want to but this fact will remain true. In order to be ok with the death penalty you have to be ok with the idea of killing innocent people. Tbf, we bombed the living shit out of 10's of thousands of innocent people 70 odd years ago but any suggestion that the men responsible for this war crime are anything other than national heroes to be unconditionally worshiped for securing our freedom tends to be treated with disgust. Mr Well neither are right would be my argument, but that may just be me!" No, not just you. Mr | |||
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"Tom cannot understand why anyone would object to the execution of a killer on death row.. " I don’t agree with the death penalty for many reasons but if you’ve committed a crime worthy of that penalty in a state/country that still has the death penalty then you probably deserve it. | |||
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"A journalist in Alabama which is a place in America was refused entry to witness the execution of a prisoner because he skirt was too high and her shoes deemed unsuitable. Rules state that skirts must be below the knee. It's all over the news. " Correct Alabama is in America. | |||
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"Tom cannot understand why anyone would object to the execution of a killer on death row.. I don’t agree with the death penalty for many reasons but if you’ve committed a crime worthy of that penalty in a state/country that still has the death penalty then you probably deserve it. 1 in 10 get exonerated. That's just the ones that can be proven. it is foolish to think only the guilty get executed, it is a flawed human system after all. And I question a person's humanity if they are ok with the innocent person being killed." It happens. But then again how many innocent people are murdered | |||
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"1 in 10 get exonerated. That's just the ones that can be proven. it is foolish to think only the guilty get executed, it is a flawed human system after all. And I question a person's humanity if they are ok with the innocent person being killed. It happens. But then again how many innocent people are murdered " Wow, that... is a response. Care to show how one has anything whatsoever to do with the other? | |||
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"They stay on death row for years and every avenue explored.. They do not execute the innocent " The Innocence Project would beg to differ. It's all over the news | |||
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"These evil buggers are dispatched and Tom sheds no years... That aside.. Tom does realise the rules around dress..." Dispatched where? Why would you shed years? You realise what about the rules? | |||
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"Tom cannot understand why anyone would object to the execution of a killer on death row.. I don’t agree with the death penalty for many reasons but if you’ve committed a crime worthy of that penalty in a state/country that still has the death penalty then you probably deserve it. 1 in 10 get exonerated. That's just the ones that can be proven. it is foolish to think only the guilty get executed, it is a flawed human system after all. And I question a person's humanity if they are ok with the innocent person being killed." That’s why I don’t agree with it at all. My point is the ones who are undoubtedly guilty committing a crime that they know carries the death penalty can’t really complain when they get it. It’s like my speeding and then complaining when I get 3 points. | |||
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"Tom was once compared to Zorro..he appears and leaves his mark...then disappears Like me when I use someone else’s toilet "A toilet brush perhaps ? | |||
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A toilet brush perhaps ?"toilet brush ? You’re posh down in that Essex | |||
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"Tom don't fall for it with these two, they just go on and on and on. Ruin every single thread they appear on until no one else comments. A lot of people are sick of it. And no I'm not going to explain or give explanations, or respond to them. " I appreciate your honesty, even if I disagree with your assertion | |||
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"Tom don't fall for it with these two, they just go on and on and on. Ruin every single thread they appear on until no one else comments. A lot of people are sick of it. And no I'm not going to explain or give explanations, or respond to them. I appreciate your honesty, even if I disagree with your assertion "More than one does... | |||
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"Leaving aside my disgust at the death penalty and the questionable practice of allowing journalists to watch, what is a defensible dress code? Would we be equally outraged if a topless male journalist had been told to cover up? We had a thread recently where the consensus was that a man being topless in a supermarket was inappropriate. Why then are we upset that a short skirt at an execution is considered the same? Like I said, this ignores the issues around having a death penalty but that isn't what the thread is about. I think some of the attitudes on here are a little strange. There were some very definite views about what a man should or shouldn't be allowed to wear while buying his tomatoes yet the same people deny the exact same sense of decorum to others? For what it's worth I don't believe the death penalty is the right solution for a civilised society and I certainly don't believe that it should be witnessed by journalists. However, if these things are going to happen I do believe that like any other aspect of human life there will always be ways of dressing that are deemed appropriate and I believe the people of Alabama have a much right as a society to decide what these are as we do to decide what is or isn't appropriate in Sainsbury. Mr My problem isn't with the dress code itself. I wouldn't expect someone to be admitted wearing a clowns outfit either. I'm just incredulous at the whole situation. I wonder if anyone took their knitting..." • Don't even mention knitting, your Ladyship! I've caveated that at the bottom of my profile. | |||
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"To be fair.. if the law changed and the job of London executioner was advertised then the queue would be long But who would be executed?" It may have changed in the last decade but I remember reading back in the noughties that technically High treason against the crown does still carry the death penalty. Which technically includes defacing the queens image (aka drawing a moustache on a fiver), or killing a swan. In real terms it is a crime that isnt going to be prosecuted like that, but one of those fun law things that exists in theory (and like I said may have changed since) | |||
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"To be fair.. if the law changed and the job of London executioner was advertised then the queue would be long But who would be executed? It may have changed in the last decade but I remember reading back in the noughties that technically High treason against the crown does still carry the death penalty. Which technically includes defacing the queens image (aka drawing a moustache on a fiver), or killing a swan. In real terms it is a crime that isnt going to be prosecuted like that, but one of those fun law things that exists in theory (and like I said may have changed since)" Like shooting a Scotsman with a crossbow in York or wherever it is? | |||
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"To be fair.. if the law changed and the job of London executioner was advertised then the queue would be long But who would be executed? It may have changed in the last decade but I remember reading back in the noughties that technically High treason against the crown does still carry the death penalty. Which technically includes defacing the queens image (aka drawing a moustache on a fiver), or killing a swan. In real terms it is a crime that isnt going to be prosecuted like that, but one of those fun law things that exists in theory (and like I said may have changed since) Like shooting a Scotsman with a crossbow in York or wherever it is?" Yeah, kind of, except the example you gave doesn't technically hold true because we have more modern laws that say shooting anyone is a crime. But same idea yeah! | |||
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"To be fair.. if the law changed and the job of London executioner was advertised then the queue would be long But who would be executed? It may have changed in the last decade but I remember reading back in the noughties that technically High treason against the crown does still carry the death penalty. Which technically includes defacing the queens image (aka drawing a moustache on a fiver), or killing a swan. In real terms it is a crime that isnt going to be prosecuted like that, but one of those fun law things that exists in theory (and like I said may have changed since) Like shooting a Scotsman with a crossbow in York or wherever it is? Yeah, kind of, except the example you gave doesn't technically hold true because we have more modern laws that say shooting anyone is a crime. But same idea yeah!" Shooting is not necessarily a crime... The feds often shoot people | |||
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"Does anyone know what crime the man committed? He took and tortured people as young as 3 yrs old with another man. Who also rpd his victims so deserved what he got Nevermind that, people in here would rather wet the bed over the dress code at his execution I think you've missed the point. No one cares what someone wore the the execution. This is a good example of how the media works, what they direct people attention to. The more interesting debate is the suitability of the death penalty as a judicial punishment or about the role the media plays in modern life. Yes. Or perhaps the normalisation of violence, the justification of violence. Does this correlate with the Second Amendment? Then contrast this with the scandal. Horror. Outrage. Of seeing... You won't believe it. Knees!
What are the cultural issues that lead to such a strange juxtaposition?
Theres obviously a dress code applying. Whats your big issue with it?
I don't give a shit about the dress code.
I care about the barbarism and brutality of the death penalty.
And the barbarism and brutality of the executed who preyed on children. I expect you could rehabilitate him..
Maybe...
The sheer existence of the death penalty will result in innocent people dying.
You can bring up any other fact you want to but this fact will remain true.
In order to be ok with the death penalty you have to be ok with the idea of killing innocent people.
Well so many people have no issue with it in relation to an unborn child. Why should they care about a violent criminal? " | |||
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"They are investigated and proved guilty beyond all doubt over many years.. of Tom were the Minister of Justice he would have no hesitation in facing these buggers down " I would agree but have you seen the state of the American justice system? | |||
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"Well so many people have no issue with it in relation to an unborn child. Why should they care about a violent criminal?" That assertion only holds up if you belong to a specific book club though. Which the majority of the UK does not. | |||
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"They are investigated and proved guilty beyond all doubt over many years.. of Tom were the Minister of Justice he would have no hesitation in facing these buggers down I would agree but have you seen the state of the American justice system?" What's wrong with it | |||
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"They are investigated and proved guilty beyond all doubt over many years.. of Tom were the Minister of Justice he would have no hesitation in facing these buggers down I would agree but have you seen the state of the American justice system? What's wrong with it " If you have Netflix watch When They See Us and then get back to me. | |||
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"They are investigated and proved guilty beyond all doubt over many years.. of Tom were the Minister of Justice he would have no hesitation in facing these buggers down Never watch Netflix.. I would agree but have you seen the state of the American justice system? What's wrong with it If you have Netflix watch When They See Us and then get back to me." | |||
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"They are investigated and proved guilty beyond all doubt over many years.. of Tom were the Minister of Justice he would have no hesitation in facing these buggers down Never watch Netflix.. I would agree but have you seen the state of the American justice system? What's wrong with it If you have Netflix watch When They See Us and then get back to me." The NYPD set up 5 teenage boys for r*pe just because they happened to be in the same area when it happened. They spent a combined 36 years in jail. | |||
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"They are investigated and proved guilty beyond all doubt over many years.. of Tom were the Minister of Justice he would have no hesitation in facing these buggers down Never watch Netflix.. I would agree but have you seen the state of the American justice system? What's wrong with it If you have Netflix watch When They See Us and then get back to me. The NYPD set up 5 teenage boys for r*pe just because they happened to be in the same area when it happened. They spent a combined 36 years in jail." But not on death row... The Americans do not just bump off anyone | |||
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"They stay on death row for years and every avenue explored.. They do not execute the innocent " They do. At least 10% of them are found to be innocent. Not every avenue is explored. The not expecting them avenue, as an example. | |||
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"They are investigated and proved guilty beyond all doubt over many years.. of Tom were the Minister of Justice he would have no hesitation in facing these buggers down I would agree but have you seen the state of the American justice system? What's wrong with it " It executes innocent people. | |||
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"Not believing that nonsense... " You don't need to believe a fact for it to be true. | |||
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"Not believing that nonsense... " It's true. Is should be all over the news. But instead they print stories about what some randomer wears to an execution as a distraction from what's really going on in the world. | |||
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"Well your fact matters not.. They execute them anyway.. And not a tear shed. They have execution parties and they deserve their happiness" How many innocent people would need to be executed for you to "shed a year"? Also, these are not my facts, they are real life facts from the real world, verifiable with a quick Google search. | |||
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"Well your fact matters not.. They execute them anyway.. And not a tear shed. They have execution parties and they deserve their happiness How many innocent people would need to be executed for you to "shed a year"? Also, these are not my facts, they are real life facts from the real world, verifiable with a quick Google search. " Haha.. Google...the internet .. Never believe all you read . All that glistens is not gold | |||
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" It's all over the news. " No, it's not. What's going on? | |||
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" It's all over the news. No, it's not. What's going on? " It's all over the news = Tom saw it on some random site | |||
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" It's all over the news. No, it's not. What's going on? " It really is.. big story | |||
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"Well your fact matters not.. They execute them anyway.. And not a tear shed. They have execution parties and they deserve their happiness How many innocent people would need to be executed for you to "shed a year"? Also, these are not my facts, they are real life facts from the real world, verifiable with a quick Google search. Haha.. Google...the internet .. Never believe all you read . All that glistens is not gold " Anyway, you may crack on cheering on innocent people being executed to entertain people at execution parties all you like. Just seems like a weird thing to be excited about. | |||
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" It's all over the news. No, it's not. What's going on? " Red blooded men are being censored from drooling over knees? | |||
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" It's all over the news. No, it's not. What's going on? Red blooded men are being censored from drooling over knees?" was it that angela Raynor again ? | |||
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" It's all over the news. No, it's not. What's going on? Red blooded men are being censored from drooling over knees?was it that angela Raynor again ?" | |||
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"Reports that she borrowed some fishing waders from the boot of another journalists car? Could this be true ?" Yes that's what was reported. She borrowed fishing waders and training shoes from other journalists and was allowed "in". I'm not sure short skirt and 3 inch heels are appropriate for such a sombre moment but I'm sure fishing waders are not appropriate either. She is of course traumatised by it as she's worn her execution outfit to 7 previous executions without problems. Still misses the point that it's a spectator sport which is pretty disgusting. | |||
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"Did it say what colour the waders are ?" Execution green I think. | |||
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"Tom is serious. A women in rubber waders is a turn on in Toms world. Especially if it's black rubber and definitely if it's shiny rubber. He would prefer to be sat next to a lady in rubber waders than in a skirt if he ever gets to witness a legal execution.." I bet Tom loves a lederhosen. | |||
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"In some military firing squads they would issue one rifle with a blank round so that the firers could cling to the belief that they might not have killed their comrade. They might have been the one who had the blank round. But as any skilled marksman knows. They would have known if it was blank by the different, noise, smoke and recoil.. " Big daddy Kim J from N Korea is partial to using grenades for some executions . | |||
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"In some military firing squads they would issue one rifle with a blank round so that the firers could cling to the belief that they might not have killed their comrade. They might have been the one who had the blank round. But as any skilled marksman knows. They would have known if it was blank by the different, noise, smoke and recoil.. Big daddy Kim J from N Korea is partial to using grenades for some executions . " Well that is an explosive turn of events! | |||
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"In some military firing squads they would issue one rifle with a blank round so that the firers could cling to the belief that they might not have killed their comrade. They might have been the one who had the blank round. But as any skilled marksman knows. They would have known if it was blank by the different, noise, smoke and recoil.. Big daddy Kim J from N Korea is partial to using grenades for some executions . Well that is an explosive turn of events!" Bit messy to clean up though vs other way. | |||
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